meaningful/meaningless

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by fragm3nt3d_mind on Tuesday, October 21, 2008 and has 47 replies.
well, maybe im goin through existence crisis or just nostalgia or maybe my chart its just so fucked up that im a mess as a person and i see things differently..but fuck...
today was having a convo with a friend of mine (best friend) i guess, and for the very first time after 2 years and a lot of changes we were able to talk about feelings and insecurities and views...
its like people its so busy chatting and talking about mundane things that no one stops to talk about the self...its like people is afraid, ashamed or just totally disconnected!
its not about they not wanting to open up with you or anything is that they just DONT talk about it...maybe im just a too deep of a person and i enjoy getting to know ppl, understanding them and even exploring they real self...everyone talks about how was your day, how much they wanna make, clothes, beauty, fashion and havent met at least recently anyone that you can actually talk about life and related things!
am i making any sense? i know it has nothing to do with scorps or the forum but somehow needed to get this out of the system...im just disappointed i guess!
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So you want real human contact and communication not just with others but also with yourself. Makes sense to me. Too much banal and superficial nonsense in the world today. Anything deep and meaningful seems to be devalued.
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you're making perfect sense. i think the reason things are like this is that, when you talk about in-depth subjects with someone, it requires a certain level of vulnerability from each person. since society tends to get so hung up on the superficial stuff you mentioned, a lot of ppl aren't comfortable showing that kind of mental or emotional vulnerability to someone unless there is a lot of trust. another thing is that sometimes actually thinking about deep, serious stuff makes people all sad cause they're forced to look at themselves and admit their flaws, so they avoid talking to others about it. they don't wanna bring the mood down.
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I think everyone judges depth based on their personal values. i appreciate society not dictating what is and isn't depth and superficiality.
right now my depth is that lingerie... damn elena !
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i don't really buy the "i'm not deep" thing...unless there's some kinda personality disorder involved. as long as someone is capable of feeling genuine emotions i think they're capable of being deep. that doesn't mean you obsess over them or think about them 24/7, just that they're there.
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personality disorder rocks docdeep Tongue
how's u ?
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LOL Hmmm must be a bull thing We have Elena talking about her lingerie, GB is snoozing & well...... I'm kinda hearing the voice of Charlie Browns teacher Waaaa Wa Wa Waa?
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Since you asked tic tac. My favorite brand. Keep the heart medication close by.
Not to be superficial....but is it edible Tongue
OK, back to deep thoughts. hmmmmmm. lingerie...boobies...Homer like these. smile
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ditto on the cap network thing.
gb they taste chalky like those necklace style candy kids love. get some in diff flavors too
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"how's u ?"
pretty awful, yourself?
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lol...again...lemme try to explain...i MEANT close friends, of course im aware that you not gonna start talking about your inner fears and thoughts to someone that you just met, and yes i agree that sometimes, quite a lot of times small talk can lead to interesting conversations and stuff, i mean ppl that you know well and deal on a daily basis, close ppl, that can NOT be deep...
geeeeeeeeee...whats wrong with me....
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lol @ Elena...loved the lingeriessmile
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"how's u ?"
pretty awful, yourself?
hmmm, I couldn't tell ! your posts sounded like you were very happy Tongue
i'm good...you know, another day...
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I'm not a fan of small talk either. They like to do this sort of thing in the office and I stay clear of it. I realize that small talk get lead to people trying to find bits of information about whatever or the conversation can lead to tons of nosy questions.
If you have something to say, then say and leave and let me tend to my business -- I only give the people I work with surface infomation, theres no reason to get personal, why do you want to know about my personal stuff? It has nothing to do with you, right smile
I guess I would be a bit more welcoming if I didn't witness on many occasions that others used someone else's personal information to stab them in the back. It's happened to me by a cancer boss I once had and I swear that I would never get in that situation again.
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Cappy you are right, the point here is no one, as in ppl close to you and close friends are able to do it!
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I've befriended people who I get "good" vibes from, but I tested them to see. I told them somethings personal and I waited to see how long it would get around to others. Afterwards, I was able to know who my close friends were and who I really shouldn't give certain information too.
My libra friend I would say is the closest person I have at my first job, thats why I kind of feel alone since she retired. It's so funny because my ex-libra boss and she have the same birthday but they are completely different people Big Grin I have a virgo friend that I'm close to at my other job and I know that she wanted stab me either -- I think she worried more about me lying to her then anything else because she has so much faith in me lol
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I'm also close to two Aqua/Pisces cusps (one I would tell more to then the other), two aries and I Leo/Virgo girl and a Virgo/Libra guy -- but had was fired because he upset my boss smile
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lol...again...lemme try to explain...i MEANT close friends, of course im aware that you not gonna start talking about your inner fears and thoughts to someone that you just met, and yes i agree that sometimes, quite a lot of times small talk can lead to interesting conversations and stuff, i mean ppl that you know well and deal on a daily basis, close ppl, that can NOT be deep...
Oh yeah Fragm3, I totally see your point but here's the flip side about me -- I quicker to get personal with someone I BARELY know know outside of my job Winking Oh yeah, I have no problem getting to know people and if you give me info then in turn I give you info too.
However, its different at your job because people are very ruthless and cunning and everyone is trying to get over on everyone else -- all that backstabbing and gossiping is enough to make me throw up my guts UGH!!!
Whereas with strangers, you talk to someone beccause you are interested and as a result *friendships* are formed smile smile
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---?? Oh yeah Fragm3, I totally see your point but here's the flip side about me -- I quicker to get personal with someone I BARELY know know outside of my job Oh yeah, I have no problem getting to know people and if you give me info then in turn I give you info too. ??----
same hre, the thing is...doesnt ppl trust ppl anymore???
im Baffled.... and Sad...i cant remember the last time i had a conversation that i felt truly understood and that i could just be ME!!!!
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well Evan..you might have a point there...not gonna argue about it!
SB...heheheh you dont change and pick friends like they are apples in the market ne? so that option its easier spoken than done i guess!
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Everyone goes through this: "Im too deep for people around me or people around me are too shallow for me" phase, but there comes a moment you realise its just your own selfishness and closed-mindedness causing all the trouble.
Oh yeah, I agree with Evan, but to add to this, I feel that people gain their closed-minded beliefs from those they grow-up with. Your social circles growing up influence the way you think in your early ages (18 to 27). The only time you may change is when you step out of your comfortable zone.
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OK...you guys have a point!
so instead of me looking at everyone else as closed minded i should be trying to change myself to adapt to the world right? and maybe in my own little perspective i have been judging ppl for what i want them to be instead of analyzing if what i ask from people is really what i should get from them???
making any sense???
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evan you're wise ... i'll sort out the thread Winking
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hmm, get from them may not be a good tactic, may cross into manipulation... more like how do we all get along ? 'there's room for all, is there not ?
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lol zena...got the question wrong...what im trying to understand is that i might be looking for deepness in others instead of trying myself being not so "deep" about everything..or i dunno, maybe be a little bit more easy and light on emotions...fuck...i think i will stop trying to make sense...im starting to get myself confused with all this deepness here!
theres a saying in portuguese that says: ou 8 ou 80...its like all or nothing...and thats where i find myself...either too deep or too totally disinterested..and this thing of always being extreme about everything can be pretty fucked up, and mess your head up a bit too much..especially when it comes to emotions....
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SB...dont be mean...not everyone manage to express themselves as well as some here!
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-haha I wanna pretend to follow Sad
- but if you have a conversation with someone, it doesn't take long to figure out the how deep the topic will go right ?
- yea sb don't hate cos she's pwetty ! Tongue
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lol @ ----?? - yea sb don't hate cos she's pwetty !
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lol lack of coffee can do that to me as wellsmile
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yea blame the coffee ... Imma bitch, yea I said it !
ok my caffeine 's working over time today... I ll go work it off now ...
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haha....i would just loooove to pole dance...that is soo sexy...and i think that la perla should be a gift to me and my pole dancing will be my gift!!!...i love to dance and would make it memorable!
irish you rock! Do you rememeber the movie Striptease? That movie with Demi Moore? During the beginning of the movie, she does her first number. hahaha, I use to practice her moves on the pole in the basement Big Grin
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I would never spend LaPerla money on lingerie. Vickis is my limit. Besides, men don't really give a damn anyway lol They just want to take it off as fast as they can.
Thats about as expensive as I've gone for anything underneath my clothes and that was one time.
I'm sorry, I feel the same way about underwear as a feel about jeans. I will never pay $ 100 for a pair of jeans, no f-ing way.
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la perla? Well, JCP suits me just fine Big Grin But I'm a cappy, so I don't have high expensives taste lol Winking
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JCP = JCPenney's :d
I'm not ashamed smile I also go to Target too Big Grin
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Aaaaw cappy....I still luv ya !!!
YAY!!!!! smile
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lol i just LURVE the way posts here can change...you start up talkin about one thing and you end up in the opposite extreme.....theres no way someone would get bored around here...frustrated hell yeah...bored....neverrrrrrrrrrr
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You know what Irish,
A few times, the same stuff I saw in target, I saw at Macy's when I went shopping with my Granny Winking So I think the clothes are the same really, it just depends on your scene -- like where you want to be seen at, you know?
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I dress smart but casually. I'm not much of a clothes horse.
I can't lie, I am. I love clothes Big Grin But low-price things. Studd tear too easily to be too expensive lol
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shaka, has antibling taken over your brain?
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oh dear smile
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sb I think we have same dream Winking no joke !
msp bachelorette for life sounds good Winking imma tattoo that
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and what's wrong wit trailer trash pp ? Tongue
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lol... the most meaningful conversation ever on this thread !
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4! wow I wanna look like you if I manage to shoot out 1 !!
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good genes ! in that case, must bitch slap my mom if it doesn't happen...
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SB
"Physically I haven't changed since I was 12. "

So you have not gone through puberty yet? I have heard of arrested development but that is just crazyTongue
Hey, are you a Vampire smile
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SB
"And why do I always land up discussing my periods with you Plutos Pride?"
I guess because I am a good listener Tongue
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