Need advice about this sexy scorpio man....

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I don't know why I'm asking for advice but, I'm going to ask it anyway... Get some different opinions...

So me and this scorpio guy have known eachother and have been friends for two years now... Him and I were supposed to be together but we had a couple of fall outs and we've never actually been able to be together (thats a whole different story). I just moved back to Phoenix wher he lives about a month ago. Since I've moved back we have been hanging out a lot out of the 7 weekends I've been here we've hung out 5 of them. Everytime we would hang out together there has been more than just friendship there. There has been some othere type of unexplainable attraction that I've never had for him...

So to add to the story. He has a girlfriend. Not only is she his girlfriend but she is also the mother of his 1 and half year old daughter. They were friends and they messed around she got pregnant. He has always just been there for this girl and didn't decide to be with her until 6 months ago. He's always said that he loves her but has never been in love with her that he just wanted to settle down and they get along as friends so he wanted to try this out and see where it went.

Since him and I are friends we talk about everything. We have over these two past years. I'm starting to think thats what makes me 10 times more attracted to him now. Anyways... I know that he hasn't been happy for a minute this is going back to since before I moved here... Basicly they don't have sex... and now they are always arguing about that. Everytime we talk about it I get mad because, first of all this girls is not pretty at all. Not one bit. Everyone is always askn him what he's doing with her in the first place. Cause she is uglee. (No offense she just really is and he'll say it to) Second of all he's a good guy. He treats her really good practicly takes care of her. She has another daughter from someone else and he takes care of her too. He does really love her as a person. I don't know whats wrong with the girl. There are other things he complains about. Says she's lazy doesn't clean and so on... It just makes me mad.

We had a conversation two weeks ago about it. It was making me even more mad. At the same time he was asking me to go to Vegas with him for his cousins birthday. We've been hanging so tight lately. So I put it out there. I'm like you and I both know that when we get together there is more between us than just friendship. He text back sayin I know huh..
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And I told him that it would be a bad idea for us to go to vegas together with everything that was going on. I also told him that I didn't want him to think that any advice that or anything I said about the situation wasn't real. Whatever I had to say about it was only because I cared about him and I wanted him to be happy. That we were friends first and have been for the past two years despite our fallouts he's been there for me throug all my butter...

He said he understood and that was cool. So we end up hanging out again that weekend on Friday Night and Saturday night. All the feelings were all so tense. We ended up kissing on friday night. On saturday night he kissed me again on our way back to the car. And its like I can't help but feeling everything I'm feeling.

I ended up going to Vegas this past weekend with him. Me and one of my girls. We hung with him and his people all weekend. I had the time of my life. We ended up sleeping together. He said that him and his girl got in a really big fight before he left but,I don't know the truth in all that. I don't know if he's just telling me that or if it happend. I've told him that there are alot of feelings involved in what were doing. I like him way too much. I care about him. I'm not going to do the side chic thing because thats not my style and it would not feel good. He says he wouldn't want me to feel like dat either and he understands.

I'm just kind of feeling confused on what's really happening with us. Should I just fall back a little. He's calling me baby all of a sudden and I'm like where is all this coming from. Whre is it going? I've never felt this way about him ever. What should I do?
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Stand by what you want. If you really want to be with him and he is right for you. Then stand by the fact that you won't be his side chick. As long as he is with her, then don't sleep with him or kiss him, if you can't control it, stop hanging out with him. If they live together and they "are together". Then this isn't good for you.

I don't judge what you did, people do what they do for reasons outsiders might not understand and we all aren't angels ourselves. Sooo... Good luck be strong.
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Roxi, I know and I do understand your point. However I also understand that people start off being together or in love and things change. Trust I should know. So, maybe things aren't good between him and his child's mother. This is why people get divorced or break up with relationships. She talking about the mother is wrong and so is it wrong for him to talk about her appearance etc. However, sharing his problems that involve this woman with a friend is normal. We all do it. They were friends before they crossed the line.

Also, I am saying I don't judge even when I might not agree with the way something is done, because I feel unless you are in someone elses shoes you never know. Just like others may never know what you and I go through in our individual situations. Trust it took me awhile to obtain this viewpoint. Also, I do commend him for sticking with the mother for the sake of the child although he says he isn't in love with the mother. However, as scorps we tend to do what we have to for our children. I stayed unhappily married for a year or two because of my daughter. It took awhile but I realized, that it was not best for her. A lot of parents don't seem to realize that the tension and stress between them in the household also eventually affects the children.

My child is a very sensitive pisces, she feels deeply and is fere intuitive to emotions, at the tender age of 1-2 I could see the tension between her father and I affecting her emotionally. She changed once we left.

So he can still be a father to his daughter without being with the mother, but scorps seem to try and hang in there until they are absolutely sure there is nothing else they can possibly do to change the situation.
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A dude talkin' shit about the mother of his child like that might as well have a big L for LOSER stamped on his forehead. Maybe she is unattractive, but he still jumped on it, didn't he?

Lower type scorpios often get into serious relationships with people they consider less attractive than themselves. It's because that person will consider them an AWESOME catch, and put up with a lot of bull shit. They are also less likely to attract attention and incite Scorp's jealousy. A more attractive woman will not put up with that and can't be controlled in that way.

This is what a Scorp male told me when I straight-up asked him why he always ended up with such unattractive Sig. Others.



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***what made me snap in the end in my marriage was that i refused to have my kids see me accept the way he spoke to me - which was like a piece of butter. i didnt want them to think it was acceptable because if i didn't - they would almost certainly learn to believe it was and that is what they would find themselves in as adults.***

One of the main reasons I left my husband to. I had a daughter and she would never grow up accepting anything but respect from a man. So I had to get out as he and I had lost all the respect we once had for eachother. NO RESPECT - NO LOVE - NO MARRIAGE.

I totally understand and agree with all you are saying. It is true he should make a concious decision if he is truly unhappy and no he shouldn't cheat. I don't condone it and while I was unhappy in my marriage I never cheated either and never had a reason to believe he did.

However, I am not justifying what I myself see as wrong, but since I am not in it I can't judge either. You see. Just my point of view. Who knows this man's motives. Like we told her to be careful. Only she will find out in the end.
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***Lower type scorpios often get into serious relationships with people they consider less attractive than themselves. It's because that person will consider them an AWESOME catch, and put up with a lot of bull butter. They are also less likely to attract attention and incite Scorp's jealousy. A more attractive woman will not put up with that and can't be controlled in that way.****

Wow!! SS, I can really see this to be true with a scorp or two males I know. The ones I despised.
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Roxi..........

Dang yall Scorpio woman can be kind of fiesty... lol but, I feel everything your saying... that's the thing I don't want to be that girl and it is hard as heck... I know that it's because we have a past and we been friends for two years... Trust me it didn't used to be like this between us... We were hanging as friends and we have plenty of times before...last night before reading all these responses today I put an end to it... Because I have my dignity and pride 1st off... Second I really don't want to come in between the problems they are having right now... I told him if he wants to be with her be with her and if he doesn't then don't but, I support him in whatever decision he makes. He is my friend 1st and formost and I want him to be happy and if thats what makes him happy then I'm all for it... and i mean that with all my heart.. We'll always be friends regardles... This just went somewhere it really wasn't supposed to and yeah we can't hang together if it's gonna be like it... I feel you 100% I know Karma is a Bitch and can come back and bite you in the ass and I'm not goin thru all that....
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A dude talkin' butter about the mother of his child like that might as well have a big L for LOSER stamped on his forehead. Maybe she is unattractive, but he still jumped on it, didn't he?

Lower type scorpios often get into serious relationships with people they consider less attractive than themselves. It's because that person will consider them an AWESOME catch, and put up with a lot of bull butter. They are also less likely to attract attention and incite Scorp's jealousy. A more attractive woman will not put up with that and can't be controlled in that way.

This is what a Scorp male told me when I straight-up asked him why he always ended up with such unattractive Sig. Others.


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He doesn't talk shit about her in that way he will just agree that she is unattractive... He has in the past... and he will say everyone around me tells me shes uglee but, I really do love her as a person... We are friends and we get along... I mean atleast the man is trying... He gets lonely fools around with the broad one night and she gets pregnant... the next person might bounce... atleast he did the right thing... He aint puttn her down the way yall think... Maybe I did because I know he can do better period if not me someonelse...
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"Wow!! SS, I can really see this to be true with a scorp or two males I know. The ones I despised."

LOL! Yeah, me too. I think it's the jealousy. The lower-types can't deal with it, so they choose someone who won't incite it and they can avoid it altogether.

Sagigoat, you're absolutely right about it being a self-esteem problem on their part as well.

It's like that poem about the good apples being at the top of the tree, or whatever. Who posted that (in the encourage scorp ladies thread, I think)? Anyone know what I'm talking about? I obviously don't! 🙂