Rough Time with Scorp Boss

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by Ssasy on Monday, July 28, 2014 and has 42 replies.
Hello Scorpians!!!
SO...I am currently working with a lovely Scorpio(female) Boss.
Shes all over the place!--BUT has a great heart(I hope)
She doesnt seem to feel shes responsible for her last minute requests (which prevents me from completing it during its deadline)
She isnt responsive to phone calls, emails,when I try to do my job... Shes always late (30-40 mins) to everything.
I on the other hand have made a few minor mistakes (typos, name errors, forgetting messages)
That has caused her to put me on a probation (like i need more stress) That can infact leave me unemployed if I DO NOT get it right...
NOW...She has given me 2 options....
Take a pay cut, take a non management position
or Apply for a position on my level (diff department/field entirely) But it can take months for an interview...
Either of the two while trying to focus and creating a error free environment...
I have admitted my errors...(I cannot seem to focus much)
She says she hates to do this. Says she likes my work style , says she likes working with me...BUT doesnt feel I have the skill set...
This has never happened to me before. Any job I had, I was loved and praised for my skills....
Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp? (besides working on an error free zone?)
Thats almost impossible....But I am trying my best!!!
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Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
Posted by Ssasy
Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp? (besides working on an error free zone?)



No.
That's your issue right there and she can see right through it.
No need to "get on her better side".....just do your job and you'll be just fine.

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--I havent tried to manipulate her or the situation.
She doesnt make things easier when I try to do my job and she isnt responsive.
And she doesnt take responsibility for anything she does.
Im never oblivious to my faults but no 1 is perfect.
I guess this thread is irrelevant...^ everyone may answer the same.
Posted by Impulsv
Maybe have a heart to heart talk calmly that u feel the last minute deadlines are unfair as they don't give u any time.
Is there a union or someone u can talk to if u feel it's a set up. Document her last minute request what uve done to call her n her non response. Cover ur ass.



Nope no union.
HEr initial convo suggested she had her mind made up..
Now I called her back when I relaxed a bit. and she seems alot more understanding about it, and explained in detail what she needs from me...
But a person makes mistakes like a spellng error, or a room error...WHY is that grounds to terminate....
(granted its not only 1x....)
-----I am going to the dr to see if my focus issues are related to something else.
I work for a weird and chaotic boss.
- Very last minute
- Disorganized
- Control freak
- Believes in going by the book and following rules
- Believes in following chain of command/hierarchy
But at the same time is contradictory becuase there are times where he will say to others that whatever I say "goes" or he'll be found not following "policy" or he will delegate work even if it means releasing control.
So what I'm saying is every boss has their structure and may at times contradict and not follow their own structure but the one thing I've learned about dealing with bad management/bosses is to adapt to their style , understand their patterns, and their preferences even if what they want/think is incorrect.
For example, since my boss is so last minute and doesn't care or at least makes excuses for telling people things last minute, people and I have learned to ask him about certian projects ahead of time instead of waiting for him to mention it.
Posted by Impulsv
I agree that's extreme. Is it a small bussiness, there are employee right. Who is her sup. I'd talk to them n state I never had a problem u can see for urself, I feel addition stress I'll lose my job over a spelling error.
Although going above her might be a problem but if u have a better report with that sup I'd talk. Cuz I agree it's extreme. Is she a new supervisor if so by talking to her manager he may teach her appropriate ways to manage not by fear.



Shes the GEneral manager...its a pretty big organization.
Talking to her boss would be the VP and that wouldnt be a good idea...
I understand as her assistant, I need to cross my T's and Dot my I's......
This pressure is stressfull...
Posted by IAmMystified
I work for a weird and chaotic boss.
- Very last minute
- Disorganized
- Control freak
- Believes in going by the book and following rules
- Believes in following chain of command/hierarchy
But at the same time is contradictory becuase there are times where he will say to others that whatever I say "goes" or he'll be found not following "policy" or he will delegate work even if it means releasing control.
So what I'm saying is every boss has their structure and may at times contradict and not follow their own structure but the one thing I've learned about dealing with bad management/bosses is to adapt to their style , understand their patterns, and their preferences even if what they want/think is incorrect.
For example, since my boss is so last minute and doesn't care or at least makes excuses for telling people things last minute, people and I have learned to ask him about certian projects ahead of time instead of waiting for him to mention it.





I spoke to her assistant before me and he wasnt emotional about it (was like speaking to a robot) but what I gathered was she was not his fav cup of tea and he would tell her if I do not have everything that I need, I will not have this for you when you want it.
He also stated that he would not agree to extensions on deadlines he needed from her , FOR her boss because that would imply room for late work being handed in...
I guess I need to TAKE charge of my WORK and HERS>.....Without the errors!
Posted by Ssasy

Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp?


Yup. Do your job correctly.
Most Scorps tend to take pride in their work and expect anyone working with (or for) us to do the best job. Do it right, or bugger off. Simple. It's not personal. It doesn't matter how much I like you as a person. Do your job and we don't have a problem.
Are you rushing? Do you need help staying organized? Since you know these things about her (unresponsive, late, giving you last minute task, etc), you'll need to compensate for this by planning a head. Do your tasks as soon as possible to allow yourself enough time to check for errors, make any last minutes changes--you already know she's probably gonna give you-- etc....stay two steps ahead of her. I am assuming you are assisting her is some way, so assist.
If you really want to keep the job you'll need to figure that out and own that position because getting on her "better" side will not be taken well and that really isn't the issue here.
Posted by Ssasy
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
Posted by Ssasy
Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp? (besides working on an error free zone?)



No.
That's your issue right there and she can see right through it.
No need to "get on her better side".....just do your job and you'll be just fine.



--I havent tried to manipulate her or the situation.


*raise eye brow* Hmph.
Posted by Ssasy

She doesnt make things easier when I try to do my job and she isnt responsive.
And she doesnt take responsibility for anything she does.
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Is she the one on probation? The issue you're focused on is gonna get you fired. What does her not taking responsibility or making your job easier have to do with you handing in subpar work? Focus on you and doing the best job you are capable of.
Posted by PhoenixRising
Posted by Ssasy

Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp?


Yup. Do your job correctly.
Most Scorps tend to take pride in their work and expect anyone working with (or for) us to do the best job. Do it right, or bugger off. Simple. It's not personal. It doesn't matter how much I like you as a person. Do your job and we don't have a problem.
Are you rushing? Do you need help staying organized? Since you know these things about her (unresponsive, late, giving you last minute task, etc), you'll need to compensate for this by planning a head. Do your tasks as soon as possible to allow yourself enough time to check for errors, make any last minutes changes--you already know she's probably gonna give you-- etc....stay two steps ahead of her. I am assuming you are assisting her is some way, so assist.
If you really want to keep the job you'll need to figure that out and own that position because getting on her "better" side will not be taken well and that really isn't the issue here.

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I came to that conclusion about the pride part...
She sat me down one day and explained that I embarrassed her because a luncheon vendor didnt deliver the food to her meeting when they were supposed to.
Another office chose the vendor we decided to use and they did not recieve the order in time.
So on that day one of the managers that report to her made a few calls and had everything in order.
A manager that mentors me stated everything was fine and had no clue why scorp suggested everything was a wreck....
That same day she asked me to get someone on the phone, 3 way. she never answerd any of her cell phones, and I was left on the phone with the person looking like an idiot.
Another time she requested i create a conference call with all of her reports she never called in.
Everyone looked at me like an idiot.

She seems to care about HOW I MAKE HER LOOK as OPPOSE TO HOW SHE MAKES HERSELF LOOK...
Posted by Ssasy

I guess I need to TAKE charge of my WORK....Without the errors!


This.
Posted by PhoenixRising
Posted by Ssasy

I guess I need to TAKE charge of my WORK....Without the errors!


This.
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I also said HERS as well!
There are things I am being blamed for because of her negligence. But if course I cannot win here.. Since shes the one in charge and IM working with her, making the errors.
Fair.
@Ssasy That's the other thing I learned from being with a bad manager/boss is I learned to manage up. Which requires more communication from your part. Which also requires you being more frank/direct/logical.
Like the example I gave, if you know he has a meeting coming up and your supposed to do something for it but he hasn't even given you the details, nothing is stopping you from getting the information you need from her yourself but also draw boundaries such as:
Ms. XYZ, I understand the "such and such" meeting is coming up and I still need to get "XYZ" done for it so that you will have everything you need becuase if I don't get the info I need today, it will be impossible to get done on time.
Be proactive and give THEM deadline reasons. In time, if she's not a robot she will learn to be more mindful of your time and the unjust expectations she has.
It worked for me, he was constantly taking certian things from my office like hte department laptop/projector (which i keep in my office since i have the space) and he was bringing it back all messy and etc. and it was taking time out of my day to wrap up the cords nicely or he wasn't returning it to me right away which means I would have to go out of my way to locate it and wrap up the cords.
So what I did the next time he didn't return it back to me nicely was I went straight into his office (he has an open door policy) and I took the cart of equipment and started wrapping up the cords right in front of him while talking to him about something else at the same time. (That way it didn't look like I was tryinig to nag him...). I did it maybe 3x and he finally got the hint, he now brings the cart of equipment directly to my office whenever he arrives the next day. Though 50% of the time the cords are still messy LOL sometimes he actually wraps it properly.
Posted by Impulsv
Sassy what's ur sign is it fire? I agree with mystified be proactive.



Im a cancer--Which is why I guess we get along...on a personal level....
Posted by IAmMystified
@Ssasy That's the other thing I learned from being with a bad manager/boss is I learned to manage up. Which requires more communication from your part. Which also requires you being more frank/direct/logical.
Like the example I gave, if you know he has a meeting coming up and your supposed to do something for it but he hasn't even given you the details, nothing is stopping you from getting the information you need from her yourself but also draw boundaries such as:
Ms. XYZ, I understand the "such and such" meeting is coming up and I still need to get "XYZ" done for it so that you will have everything you need becuase if I don't get the info I need today, it will be impossible to get done on time.
Be proactive and give THEM deadline reasons. In time, if she's not a robot she will learn to be more mindful of your time and the unjust expectations she has.
It worked for me, he was constantly taking certian things from my office like hte department laptop/projector (which i keep in my office since i have the space) and he was bringing it back all messy and etc. and it was taking time out of my day to wrap up the cords nicely or he wasn't returning it to me right away which means I would have to go out of my way to locate it and wrap up the cords.
So what I did the next time he didn't return it back to me nicely was I went straight into his office (he has an open door policy) and I took the cart of equipment and started wrapping up the cords right in front of him while talking to him about something else at the same time. (That way it didn't look like I was tryinig to nag him...). I did it maybe 3x and he finally got the hint, he now brings the cart of equipment directly to my office whenever he arrives the next day. Though 50% of the time the cords are still messy LOL sometimes he actually wraps it properly.



Sounds like what its all balling down to PLUS focusing...-_-
It's not really hard to manage up as time goes on. This is what I hate about the company I work for becuase most of the staff that work for the company whether its my department or another department they do one or all of the following things:
1. They sit there with tedious and pointless "Busy work" until their boss gives them something to do, they could instead understand what the end goal of the department/company is and be aware of common project reoccurances and predict what the needs are ahead of time. Which isn't hard if a person opens their eyes and pays attention to what's going on with the company.
2. They can't complete a project without asking their boss a billion questions about a. what it should look like or b. if what they did looks good or c. if they want soemthing different. Staff here waste so much time asking questions and it just makes the employee look like they don't have any skills. What I've learned is to create the project (especially if its something i've done before) and then show my boss the end result and say This is what I did for "Project XYZ" what do you think. What you were looking for? Most of the time my boss thinks its great and then boom its finished.
3. Some employees have been here 3-4 years and STILL do not know how to do something or they do know how to do it but ask questions about it anyway which makes them look like they are dispensible and are easy to get rid of come layoff/downsizing time instead of finding out the answer themselves.

Which explains in my company I'm the "go to", "guru" , "veteran" in my company and everyone knows it. Becuase I've learned to manage up. I learn to listen, open my eyes, learn about patterns and I look for the answer first instead of asking first...and I check my work before I submit it to my boss (I need to be better at this part though).
Which my boss learned maybe within the first 6 months that he doesn't need to manage me which in some ways I hate but he loves it because it gives him more freedom to do his work and do more strategic planning and his job is less chaotic. Which is why our department is the top performing department compared to other departments who have anywhere from 2-5x the number of employees and honestly its all because of me and my ability to manage up. Me wasting less time, makes him waste less of his own time which means together we get more done.
Posted by Ssasy
Posted by PhoenixRising
Posted by Ssasy

I guess I need to TAKE charge of my WORK....Without the errors!


This.



I also said HERS as well!
There are things I am being blamed for because of her negligence. But if course I cannot win here.. Since shes the one in charge and IM working with her, making the errors.
Fair.
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You're right you did, but fair or not as I stated, she isn't the one on probation is she? And what exactly are you trying to "win" *here*? Did you make this thread to get advice or validation?
It's quite simple. You asked how to get on her ???better side?? and you were given an answer: you can't. All you can do is do your job and do it very well, so she has nothing to say. No complaints, no reason to put you on probation, no reason to f*ck you over (since I am sensing that is what this about to turn into). Or, you can focus on what is "fair", what she is also doing and not doing and walk yourself out of a job. Your choice.
You can choose to take control of this situation and shine or complain about it and try to get on her ???better side??.
Posted by Ssasy

I came to that conclusion about the pride part...
She sat me down one day and explained that I embarrassed her because a luncheon vendor didnt deliver the food to her meeting when they were supposed to.
Another office chose the vendor we decided to use and they did not recieve the order in time.
So on that day one of the managers that report to her made a few calls and had everything in order.
A manager that mentors me stated everything was fine and had no clue why scorp suggested everything was a wreck....
That same day she asked me to get someone on the phone, 3 way. she never answerd any of her cell phones, and I was left on the phone with the person looking like an idiot.
Another time she requested i create a conference call with all of her reports she never called in.
Everyone looked at me like an idiot.

She seems to care about HOW I MAKE HER LOOK as OPPOSE TO HOW SHE MAKES HERSELF LOOK...


Well it's about something....but how does any of this^^^ information help your current position? I get it. She sounds like a difficult boss. However, having us nod our heads and agreeing with you is not going to help you with the problems you resented here, which is possibly losing your job or taking a pay cut, which from what I understand you do not want right?
So, how do you address >i>this problem? One way is not to get on her good side, because this has nothing to do with that. For one reason or another, she is on your a** about your work, which you admit is filled with issues, so address those issues. You address that, isolate that and if she is still riding your ass, then you know it's about something else and proceed from there. Get organized, be more aware of her issues and the possible things she will throw at you (e.g. last minute changes/projects,) set boundaries as suggested, and get ahead of this and secure your position there. Or don't.
Well Thank You SCORPS!
So here is an update!
This lovely boss of mine came in last Thursday (when we were suippose to discuss further)
And said absolutely nothing to me about Mondays discussion.
In fact, we laughed talked, and I was on a roll with getting everything I needed from her. She was punctual with the work I requested for the VP. She was extreamely friendly!!
Friday came and she was JUST as friendly. STILL no discussion about the probation talk. The way the company works is, I actually have to sign papers to confirm these proceedings.
SO Friday after a 2 hour meeting, she comes in and says" HEY SO WHAT ARE WE HAVING FOR LUNCH IM STARVING"
She talks about her son...blah blah. Monday morning now, she has a 7:45 am conference call. 7:30am I sent her a screen shot of it just as a reminder, later that day she says that was great (she forgot) and thank you very much for that...
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?
Posted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?



Who did you speak to in order for them to tell her she was too harsh?
This is an important question.
Posted by LetltB
Posted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?



Who did you speak to in order for them to tell her she was too harsh?
This is an important question.

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I spoke with HR, and another Exec assistant who is aware of her work style and suggests thatthe more the boss and I spoke about the situation, and interacted with one anohter, the more she changes her approach with a less harsher attitude. and probably got guidance from either an inside or outside source.
Ssasy,
There's no other way but apologise and be humble. Don't fight with a Scorpio...
I had an employee before... when she can't do her job right and I kept saying it over and over again
I scolded her in front of many.. She did not talk. She was silent but after a minutes she went to the
Comfort room and cried there.. yes she won my mercy.
and there was one employee who had a high in spirit. Too proud because the owner of the company likes
her..I kicked her ass. I saved the one...and this one should be the owner wanted me to kick out.
I trained them both ,one at a time. I chose the behavior and who can stand my strict policy.
Scorpio likes to build employee but you have to be very careful when talking behind our back.

The one I kicked said ..I will not come back here anymore and see your face!
Me: just leave as you like. No servant is greater than his master. No staff is greater than his
boss. You don't influence me with your knowledge. I am teaching you how to do your job properly.
then she came back in the morning saying all the sorry's. I said I am sorry too but I already chose
and I made my choice. lol. She send msg to the owner. The owner talks to me. I said.. I don't like
her. She needs me but I don't need her.
Have to disagree here, just been there done that. This woman shouldn't be managing-goggle"do you think your going to get fired." There negative scorps-they cut in haste. You deserve better and to be happy.

On that note todays workplace has changed and is about to undergo a big one-hold your britches-bosses are assholes and high on their stoll and lots of employees could give to shits. Corp and Govt do not care.
Smile be sweet and hunt-you will find a home-the economy has flipped and there expansion happening in many fields-some of these older and newer attitudes employees and bosses will soon find themselves jobless. History repeats itself w/ every recession.
A boss that rides an employees causes anxiety-which leads to mistakes. I knew the day I walked in it was coming-yet Im eligible for re-hire and theres a reason. I know what corporations are up to, it was mutual on my part-quick I already had my badge in hand-already have two offers. Find something say kthxbye.

hello ScorpVulcan,
Yes some Scorp cut in haste but doesn't mean they are *NEGATIVE* lmao.
Some situations are not just appealing and scorp will just go extreme. Some people are just too
provocative to give you a drastic decision they don't get credit.
If employee know how to deal BS then the boss can fire and hire... why stay in very proud employee. lol.
Posted by Ssasy
Posted by LetltB
Posted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?



Who did you speak to in order for them to tell her she was too harsh?
This is an important question.





I spoke with HR, and another Exec assistant who is aware of her work style and suggests thatthe more the boss and I spoke about the situation, and interacted with one anohter, the more she changes her approach with a less harsher attitude. and probably got guidance from either an inside or outside source.
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Ok...so she must've had a heads up from someone hence the what you refer to as "bizarre" behavior, and the turn around. Now...all you have to do is have your A game polished, don't miss an "i" or the "t" from this point forward. If she's a nasty grey lizard, she's going to set you up for failure. If she's a mature and evolved Scorp, she's going to make sure she has her shit together and make sure you went to HR and the exec assistant out of true concern instead of wanting to stabbing her in the back. Her antennas are fully up, as should yours.
Posted by M143

I had an employee before... when she can't do her job right and I kept saying it over and over again
I scolded her in front of many..
She did not talk. She was silent but after a minutes she went to the
Comfort room and cried there.. yes she won my mercy.
and there was one employee who had a high in spirit. Too proud because the owner of the company likes
her..I kicked her ass. I saved the one...and this one should be the owner wanted me to kick out.
I trained them both ,one at a time. I chose the behavior and who can stand my strict policy.
Scorpio likes to build employee but you have to be very careful when talking behind our back.



Not professional at all. I'd fire your ass in a nano second. smh

LetItBe,
awww. I don't need your approval. That employee gave me thanks. She needs to toughen up herself
and knows why I did it... lmao.
You seem very angry to the world. aww. You can't fire my ass..
Always there's a rules. RUDE!!!
Posted by M143
Ssasy,
There's no other way but apologise and be humble. Don't fight with a Scorpio...
I had an employee before... when she can't do her job right and I kept saying it over and over again
I scolded her in front of many.. She did not talk. She was silent but after a minutes she went to the
Comfort room and cried there.. yes she won my mercy.
and there was one employee who had a high in spirit. Too proud because the owner of the company likes
her..I kicked her ass. I saved the one...and this one should be the owner wanted me to kick out.

*** I have stayed humble (even though she hasnt) and I explained that I am not oblivious to my flaws and im willing to work on these things. Imnot one of those people who walk around blaming other people I can accept my faults and try my best to refrain from doing them as well.
I trained them both ,one at a time. I chose the behavior and who can stand my strict policy.
Scorpio likes to build employee but you have to be very careful when talking behind our back.


Posted by LetltB
Posted by Ssasy
Posted by LetltB
Posted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?



Who did you speak to in order for them to tell her she was too harsh?
This is an important question.





I spoke with HR, and another Exec assistant who is aware of her work style and suggests thatthe more the boss and I spoke about the situation, and interacted with one anohter, the more she changes her approach with a less harsher attitude. and probably got guidance from either an inside or outside source.


Ok...so she must've had a heads up from someone hence the what you refer to as "bizarre" behavior, and the turn around. Now...all you have to do is have your A game polished, don't miss an "i" or the "t" from this point forward. If she's a nasty grey lizard, she's going to set you up for failure. If she's a mature and evolved Scorp, she's going to make sure she has her shit together and make sure you went to HR and the exec assistant out of true concern instead of wanting to stabbing her in the back. Her antennas are fully up, as should yours.
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***Yes I am very very aware that this is NO joke. Her behavior is absurd and has me on edge... Because she is Joyful and Happy and woking better with me, better than before.
I hope she is a mature Scorp.!!!
Posted by Ssasy

***Yes I am very very aware that this is NO joke. Her behavior is absurd and has me on edge... Because she is Joyful and Happy and woking better with me, better than before.
I hope she is a mature Scorp.!!!



Just keep those antennas up. Ignore the behavior, it's a front. Listen and absorb.
Posted by LetltB
Posted by Ssasy

***Yes I am very very aware that this is NO joke. Her behavior is absurd and has me on edge... Because she is Joyful and Happy and woking better with me, better than before.
I hope she is a mature Scorp.!!!



Just keep those antennas up. Ignore the behavior, it's a front. Listen and absorb.
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its a very scary front. Why should we interact soo friendly? She was supposed to sit with me since last thursday. Shes on VACA now...and will return monday.
Not sure where this is going. But I am going extra hard with emails and making sure I keep her in the loop with everything since she wants control of everything!!! I dont think it is humanly possible for someone to control EVEERYTHING BUT if she wants it she has it.
So Guys I have an update.
Since my Open Post---The boss diddnt sit with me like she planned...She has been laughing an Joking and even complementing me ALOT more than usual...
This monday was our progress reviews and indicated that the issue is managing her.
She needs someone in her face! and Im not doing that 100% .
So NOW its not about the errors? Now she wants me to baby sit her?
She indicated that once the paper work is complete, I will still be placed on Probation.
During the day I interrupted her to remind her of another meeting...
Later on she said she liked that and appreciated that, and she needs more of that....
Scorps are this NEEDY? Or is it because shes a woman as well??
Any more POINTERS you CRAZY SCORPS! LOL
Posted by Ssasy

This monday was our progress reviews and indicated that the issue is managing her.
She needs someone in her face! and Im not doing that 100% .
So NOW its not about the errors? Now she wants me to baby sit her?
She indicated that once the paper work is complete, I will still be placed on Probation.
During the day I interrupted her to remind her of another meeting...
Later on she said she liked that and appreciated that, and she needs more of that....
Scorps are this NEEDY? Or is it because shes a woman as well??
Any more POINTERS you CRAZY SCORPS! LOL


She's not being needy. She is putting her weakness out there and saying in not so many words, I am disorganized and sloppy I need an assistant that will not be afraid to call me on my stuff and hold me accountable. Isn't that why you're there?
I find it interesting that you call her needy, yet you're here needing support on how to figure this out. There's nothing wrong with saying you can't figure something out and don't have your sh*t together. My point is, you both have more in common than you think.
Anyway, putting that aside I would tread lightly with what she has asked you to do. She sounds unstable to me and unclear about what she wants from you as an assistant. I'm not sure why and I don't trust it. If the nature of your relationship was different I would advise you give her exactly what she she has asked for, but something seems off. Cover your ass, do the best work you can, make her aware of her app'ts, deadlines etc, but do not cross the line of being too friendly or insubordinate.
You seem nice, but I still think you're focused in the wrong thing. Meaning, I saw your other thread a while back and she clearly gets under your skin. Try to control that because she may use it.
Keep your eye on her because I have no doubt she has her eye on you. Why? Well only time will tell, but I think the warning about probation is a hint. Cover. Your. Ass.
Ok, My scorpio boss was a man. I think i even wrote a thread about him. He was worse than my pisces boss. he was an incompetent prick.
Long story short, at first i wanted to prove myself to his condescending ass, but eventually, i said the hell with it. He can have this place. Fighting will not solve anything. Trying to beat them will not solve anything.
The best revenge is leaving and finding a more suitable place. I handed in my resignation and he flipped a cow. Eventually he accepted it, like he had a choice. I left, found a more suitable boss (libra) and his incompetence finally was revealed to upper mgmt and he got FIRED!
Best Day Ever
Some scorpios are self reliant whereas others are needy as fuck. Yours sounds like a baby. Theres something about you that she sees as an easy target. Either you wont fall in line or your
Just so you know, she will use anything against you to conquer you. I agree with others, CYA and go talk to a recruiter.
With my scorpio boss, I used to give myself pep talks b4 going to work. It was that bad. I even told my mom and dad about it and i dont share much.
Posted by PhoenixRising
You seem nice, but I still think you're focused in the wrong thing. Meaning, I saw your other thread a while back and she clearly gets under your skin. Try to control that because she may use it.
Keep your eye on her because I have no doubt she has her eye on you. Why? Well only time will tell, but I think the warning about probation is a hint. Cover. Your. Ass.


The only reason I mentioned needy is because of her reaction of me just doing somthing that simple and even sending her messages at 7am to tell her about a conerence call she was supposed to join..

Im scared even more now that youre saying to CYA.....
Our relationship personally is NOT a problem. BUT i dont trust her...I like joking and laughing with her but I almost feel stupid doing it...
I dont do anything to make her feel she cannot trust me because she tells me ALOT abotu her personal life.
I am documenting everything and also doing what she has asked...
She is a bit unclear about what she wants. And I will begin meeting with her to discuss exxactly what it is...

It didn't take far into reading this before I came to the conclusion that you're not worthy of the job title "Assistant" since your whole premise for this thread is to convey your disgruntlement at having to be assisting your superior.
I would, and have, fire you on the spot - when you complained about me, while lacking the actual balls to communicate to me. There's no way I would have tolerated you this long.
Then on page 3, you show your true colors ... and we see that you purposely keep information away from her. You twist it in trying to suggest you are in the position to control what you are to inform her of ... when in reality, she is in complete control over you, and not the other way around, which you seem to have bestowed upon your inferior self.
Here's where the picture becomes clear .....

Posted by Ssasy
But I am going extra hard with emails and making sure I keep her in the loop with everything since she wants control of everything!!! I dont think it is humanly possible for someone to control EVEERYTHING BUT if she wants it she has it.




Gauging from all you have written here ... you're likely a cancer in the company, and need to be removed.
Posted by Jynja
The OP has trouble with virtually all her superiors and managers.
There was a Leo manager too... I wonder how that went.
Until she gets her duties right, she's bound to have trouble with every boss.
*Shrug*



Wow ok. The Leo Manager, was not a manager I report to. Shes one of the managers that reports to my boss.
And that was a personal issue. Not necessarily work related. It has nothing to do with this.
maybe Im explaining this wrong on here, because even HR says something isnt right about her meetings with me...
Thanks though.
Posted by Jynja
Posted by Ssasy
Posted by PhoenixRising
You seem nice, but I still think you're focused in the wrong thing. Meaning, I saw your other thread a while back and she clearly gets under your skin. Try to control that because she may use it.
Keep your eye on her because I have no doubt she has her eye on you. Why? Well only time will tell, but I think the warning about probation is a hint. Cover. Your. Ass.


The only reason I mentioned needy is because of her reaction of me just doing somthing that simple and even sending her messages at 7am to tell her about a conerence call she was supposed to join..

Im scared even more now that youre saying to CYA.....
Our relationship personally is NOT a problem. BUT i dont trust her...I like joking and laughing with her but I almost feel stupid doing it...
I dont do anything to make her feel she cannot trust me because she tells me ALOT abotu her personal life.
I am documenting everything and also doing what she has asked...
She is a bit unclear about what she wants. And I will begin meeting with her to discuss exxactly what it is...


All this is unimportant to your job or hers.
Get an upgrade. Learn to spell and edit your work.
Then, perhaps, you'll understand that reminding your boss to join a conference call at midnight is your duty - not some kindness you're doing your duty "needy" boss.
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I understand I put myself out there for your negative opinion...But im sure youre not perfect either.
I mentioned the call because I sent her a screen shot 3 hours before I was due for work.
Not as if there was a problem, but I gave that as example to see if things like this is what she would want...
But hey YOURE probably 100% perfect.... So sure come on here and bash every little thing I said. I came here for insight. Not to be judged.
Posted by P-Angel

It didn't take far into reading this before I came to the conclusion that you're not worthy of the job title "Assistant" since your whole premise for this thread is to convey your disgruntlement at having to be assisting your superior.
I would, and have, fire you on the spot - when you complained about me, while lacking the actual balls to communicate to me. There's no way I would have tolerated you this long.
Then on page 3, you show your true colors ... and we see that you purposely keep information away from her. You twist it in trying to suggest you are in the position to control what you are to inform her of ... when in reality, she is in complete control over you, and not the other way around, which you seem to have bestowed upon your inferior self.
Here's where the picture becomes clear .....

Posted by Ssasy
But I am going extra hard with emails and making sure I keep her in the loop with everything since she wants control of everything!!! I dont think it is humanly possible for someone to control EVEERYTHING BUT if she wants it she has it.




Gauging from all you have written here ... you're likely a cancer in the company, and need to be removed.
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WOW...>Thats what you gathered???
This woman says to me---I need you to take initiative. I do just that...She replaced a male boss who was the General Manager, my duties included scheduling meetings for his staff, same with her.
I take the initiative to schedule her meetings as I am supposed to do, and when I do, She then asks me to consult with her before scheduling her staff meetings.
All of the managers that also report to her have complained about this as well...we understand shes new and shes trying to get a feel of her position, but it is impossible to be involved with everything.
It is very difficult to paint the picture of how things really opperate here, so I think its unfortunate for you to be so insulting and negative with your feed back. AGAIN yeah I came here for insight, but NOT to be judged or BASHED....
You cannot ask someone to take charge, and when they do, you want a preview of it, then an update, and also a follow-up when you want me to take the initiative of doing these tasks for you without having to consult with you. Her schedule is hectic

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