Posted by TwirlingStrawberryPosted by Ssasy
Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp? (besides working on an error free zone?)
No.
That's your issue right there and she can see right through it.
No need to "get on her better side".....just do your job and you'll be just fine.click to expand
Posted by Impulsv
Maybe have a heart to heart talk calmly that u feel the last minute deadlines are unfair as they don't give u any time.
Is there a union or someone u can talk to if u feel it's a set up. Document her last minute request what uve done to call her n her non response. Cover ur ass.
Posted by Impulsv
I agree that's extreme. Is it a small bussiness, there are employee right. Who is her sup. I'd talk to them n state I never had a problem u can see for urself, I feel addition stress I'll lose my job over a spelling error.
Although going above her might be a problem but if u have a better report with that sup I'd talk. Cuz I agree it's extreme. Is she a new supervisor if so by talking to her manager he may teach her appropriate ways to manage not by fear.
Posted by IAmMystified
I work for a weird and chaotic boss.
- Very last minute
- Disorganized
- Control freak
- Believes in going by the book and following rules
- Believes in following chain of command/hierarchy
But at the same time is contradictory becuase there are times where he will say to others that whatever I say "goes" or he'll be found not following "policy" or he will delegate work even if it means releasing control.
So what I'm saying is every boss has their structure and may at times contradict and not follow their own structure but the one thing I've learned about dealing with bad management/bosses is to adapt to their style , understand their patterns, and their preferences even if what they want/think is incorrect.
For example, since my boss is so last minute and doesn't care or at least makes excuses for telling people things last minute, people and I have learned to ask him about certian projects ahead of time instead of waiting for him to mention it.
Posted by Ssasy
Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp?
Posted by SsasyPosted by TwirlingStrawberryPosted by Ssasy
Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp? (besides working on an error free zone?)
No.
That's your issue right there and she can see right through it.
No need to "get on her better side".....just do your job and you'll be just fine.
--I havent tried to manipulate her or the situation.
Posted by Ssasy
She doesnt make things easier when I try to do my job and she isnt responsive.
And she doesnt take responsibility for anything she does.click to expand
Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Ssasy
Any suggestions on getting on a better side of this Scorp?
Yup. Do your job correctly.
Most Scorps tend to take pride in their work and expect anyone working with (or for) us to do the best job. Do it right, or bugger off. Simple. It's not personal. It doesn't matter how much I like you as a person. Do your job and we don't have a problem.
Are you rushing? Do you need help staying organized? Since you know these things about her (unresponsive, late, giving you last minute task, etc), you'll need to compensate for this by planning a head. Do your tasks as soon as possible to allow yourself enough time to check for errors, make any last minutes changes--you already know she's probably gonna give you-- etc....stay two steps ahead of her. I am assuming you are assisting her is some way, so assist.
If you really want to keep the job you'll need to figure that out and own that position because getting on her "better" side will not be taken well and that really isn't the issue here.click to expand
Posted by Ssasy
I guess I need to TAKE charge of my WORK....Without the errors!
Posted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Ssasy
I guess I need to TAKE charge of my WORK....Without the errors!
This.click to expand
Posted by Impulsv
Sassy what's ur sign is it fire? I agree with mystified be proactive.
Posted by IAmMystified
@Ssasy That's the other thing I learned from being with a bad manager/boss is I learned to manage up. Which requires more communication from your part. Which also requires you being more frank/direct/logical.
Like the example I gave, if you know he has a meeting coming up and your supposed to do something for it but he hasn't even given you the details, nothing is stopping you from getting the information you need from her yourself but also draw boundaries such as:
Ms. XYZ, I understand the "such and such" meeting is coming up and I still need to get "XYZ" done for it so that you will have everything you need becuase if I don't get the info I need today, it will be impossible to get done on time.
Be proactive and give THEM deadline reasons. In time, if she's not a robot she will learn to be more mindful of your time and the unjust expectations she has.
It worked for me, he was constantly taking certian things from my office like hte department laptop/projector (which i keep in my office since i have the space) and he was bringing it back all messy and etc. and it was taking time out of my day to wrap up the cords nicely or he wasn't returning it to me right away which means I would have to go out of my way to locate it and wrap up the cords.
So what I did the next time he didn't return it back to me nicely was I went straight into his office (he has an open door policy) and I took the cart of equipment and started wrapping up the cords right in front of him while talking to him about something else at the same time. (That way it didn't look like I was tryinig to nag him...). I did it maybe 3x and he finally got the hint, he now brings the cart of equipment directly to my office whenever he arrives the next day. Though 50% of the time the cords are still messy LOL sometimes he actually wraps it properly.
Posted by SsasyPosted by PhoenixRisingPosted by Ssasy
I guess I need to TAKE charge of my WORK....Without the errors!
This.
I also said HERS as well!
There are things I am being blamed for because of her negligence. But if course I cannot win here.. Since shes the one in charge and IM working with her, making the errors.
Fair.click to expand
Posted by Ssasy
I came to that conclusion about the pride part...
She sat me down one day and explained that I embarrassed her because a luncheon vendor didnt deliver the food to her meeting when they were supposed to.
Another office chose the vendor we decided to use and they did not recieve the order in time.
So on that day one of the managers that report to her made a few calls and had everything in order.
A manager that mentors me stated everything was fine and had no clue why scorp suggested everything was a wreck....
That same day she asked me to get someone on the phone, 3 way. she never answerd any of her cell phones, and I was left on the phone with the person looking like an idiot.
Another time she requested i create a conference call with all of her reports she never called in.
Everyone looked at me like an idiot.
She seems to care about HOW I MAKE HER LOOK as OPPOSE TO HOW SHE MAKES HERSELF LOOK...
Posted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?
Posted by LetltBPosted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?
Who did you speak to in order for them to tell her she was too harsh?
This is an important question.click to expand
Posted by SsasyPosted by LetltBPosted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?
Who did you speak to in order for them to tell her she was too harsh?
This is an important question.
I spoke with HR, and another Exec assistant who is aware of her work style and suggests thatthe more the boss and I spoke about the situation, and interacted with one anohter, the more she changes her approach with a less harsher attitude. and probably got guidance from either an inside or outside source.click to expand
Posted by M143
I had an employee before... when she can't do her job right and I kept saying it over and over again
I scolded her in front of many.. She did not talk. She was silent but after a minutes she went to the
Comfort room and cried there.. yes she won my mercy.
and there was one employee who had a high in spirit. Too proud because the owner of the company likes
her..I kicked her ass. I saved the one...and this one should be the owner wanted me to kick out.
I trained them both ,one at a time. I chose the behavior and who can stand my strict policy.
Scorpio likes to build employee but you have to be very careful when talking behind our back.
Posted by M143
Ssasy,
There's no other way but apologise and be humble. Don't fight with a Scorpio...
I had an employee before... when she can't do her job right and I kept saying it over and over again
I scolded her in front of many.. She did not talk. She was silent but after a minutes she went to the
Comfort room and cried there.. yes she won my mercy.
and there was one employee who had a high in spirit. Too proud because the owner of the company likes
her..I kicked her ass. I saved the one...and this one should be the owner wanted me to kick out.
*** I have stayed humble (even though she hasnt) and I explained that I am not oblivious to my flaws and im willing to work on these things. Imnot one of those people who walk around blaming other people I can accept my faults and try my best to refrain from doing them as well.
I trained them both ,one at a time. I chose the behavior and who can stand my strict policy.
Scorpio likes to build employee but you have to be very careful when talking behind our back.
Posted by LetltBPosted by SsasyPosted by LetltBPosted by Ssasy
Im worried because this is soo bizarre!
Change of heart?
Did someone tell her she was too harsh?
Impulsive moment?
I am trying very hard...can she see this?
Who did you speak to in order for them to tell her she was too harsh?
This is an important question.
I spoke with HR, and another Exec assistant who is aware of her work style and suggests thatthe more the boss and I spoke about the situation, and interacted with one anohter, the more she changes her approach with a less harsher attitude. and probably got guidance from either an inside or outside source.
Ok...so she must've had a heads up from someone hence the what you refer to as "bizarre" behavior, and the turn around. Now...all you have to do is have your A game polished, don't miss an "i" or the "t" from this point forward. If she's a nasty grey lizard, she's going to set you up for failure. If she's a mature and evolved Scorp, she's going to make sure she has her shit together and make sure you went to HR and the exec assistant out of true concern instead of wanting to stabbing her in the back. Her antennas are fully up, as should yours.click to expand
Posted by Ssasy
***Yes I am very very aware that this is NO joke. Her behavior is absurd and has me on edge... Because she is Joyful and Happy and woking better with me, better than before.
I hope she is a mature Scorp.!!!
Posted by LetltBPosted by Ssasy
***Yes I am very very aware that this is NO joke. Her behavior is absurd and has me on edge... Because she is Joyful and Happy and woking better with me, better than before.
I hope she is a mature Scorp.!!!
Just keep those antennas up. Ignore the behavior, it's a front. Listen and absorb.click to expand
Posted by Ssasy
This monday was our progress reviews and indicated that the issue is managing her.
She needs someone in her face! and Im not doing that 100% .
So NOW its not about the errors? Now she wants me to baby sit her?
She indicated that once the paper work is complete, I will still be placed on Probation.
During the day I interrupted her to remind her of another meeting...
Later on she said she liked that and appreciated that, and she needs more of that....
Scorps are this NEEDY? Or is it because shes a woman as well??
Any more POINTERS you CRAZY SCORPS! LOL
Posted by PhoenixRising
You seem nice, but I still think you're focused in the wrong thing. Meaning, I saw your other thread a while back and she clearly gets under your skin. Try to control that because she may use it.
Keep your eye on her because I have no doubt she has her eye on you. Why? Well only time will tell, but I think the warning about probation is a hint. Cover. Your. Ass.
Posted by Ssasy
But I am going extra hard with emails and making sure I keep her in the loop with everything since she wants control of everything!!! I dont think it is humanly possible for someone to control EVEERYTHING BUT if she wants it she has it.
Posted by Jynja
The OP has trouble with virtually all her superiors and managers.
There was a Leo manager too... I wonder how that went.
Until she gets her duties right, she's bound to have trouble with every boss.
*Shrug*
Posted by JynjaPosted by SsasyPosted by PhoenixRising
You seem nice, but I still think you're focused in the wrong thing. Meaning, I saw your other thread a while back and she clearly gets under your skin. Try to control that because she may use it.
Keep your eye on her because I have no doubt she has her eye on you. Why? Well only time will tell, but I think the warning about probation is a hint. Cover. Your. Ass.
The only reason I mentioned needy is because of her reaction of me just doing somthing that simple and even sending her messages at 7am to tell her about a conerence call she was supposed to join..
Im scared even more now that youre saying to CYA.....
Our relationship personally is NOT a problem. BUT i dont trust her...I like joking and laughing with her but I almost feel stupid doing it...
I dont do anything to make her feel she cannot trust me because she tells me ALOT abotu her personal life.
I am documenting everything and also doing what she has asked...
She is a bit unclear about what she wants. And I will begin meeting with her to discuss exxactly what it is...
All this is unimportant to your job or hers.
Get an upgrade. Learn to spell and edit your work.
Then, perhaps, you'll understand that reminding your boss to join a conference call at midnight is your duty - not some kindness you're doing your duty "needy" boss.click to expand
Posted by P-Angel
It didn't take far into reading this before I came to the conclusion that you're not worthy of the job title "Assistant" since your whole premise for this thread is to convey your disgruntlement at having to be assisting your superior.
I would, and have, fire you on the spot - when you complained about me, while lacking the actual balls to communicate to me. There's no way I would have tolerated you this long.
Then on page 3, you show your true colors ... and we see that you purposely keep information away from her. You twist it in trying to suggest you are in the position to control what you are to inform her of ... when in reality, she is in complete control over you, and not the other way around, which you seem to have bestowed upon your inferior self.
Here's where the picture becomes clear .....
Posted by Ssasy
But I am going extra hard with emails and making sure I keep her in the loop with everything since she wants control of everything!!! I dont think it is humanly possible for someone to control EVEERYTHING BUT if she wants it she has it.
Gauging from all you have written here ... you're likely a cancer in the company, and need to be removed.click to expand
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