Scorpio men & females I need you!!!!!

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by treatherbetter89 on Thursday, June 8, 2017 and has 16 replies.
Okay i am going to sum this up as simple as possible.. I was with a Scorpio guy for 7 years.. year 1 through 5 good.. End of year 5 through 7 were rough.. financial issues on his end caused issues between us to the point where he became distant emotionally and physically! After struggling with the fact that we were no longer intimate made me wonder where he was mentally because it obviously wasn't with me. I ended up looking through his phone, never done before and found innocent but very flirty text messages with female co workers.. innocent but unprofessional.( keep in mind over the years he was quite serious about me not entertaining mail friends at all which I didn't agree with but ended up doing to make him comfortable.) so the text messages were icing on the cake.. well I broke up with him.. no contact from him for 4 months but then out the blue he calls me..initiated contact twice in a 2 day span,conversation lasting 4+ hours a piece and full of us expressing our feelings and love for one another.


Anyways I take this as us working towards relinking but when I initiate the 3rd call and tell him he still has my heart and let's work towards something slowly verses jumping back in to a relationship fast because we both haven't healed from the hurt of it all,he plays it off as if he doesn't know if he wants to even be in a relationship again and switches it on me as this was your choice to break up and I didn't want too..and then I haven't heard from him in a week so far... is he playing mind games with me? And why!? It's a totally 180 from how he originally expressed his self, now it's as if I gave him his juice back and he's chilling! This has really hurt my feelings.. I'm a aqua btw


Btw I was always loyal to him.. I was so overwhelmed by the distance,no intimacy and lack of support as I was stressed from the FInacial responsibility and not having emotional support of love he use to shower me with.. I felt so alone guys and it was like he wasn't respecting my feelings?.. I'd never do anything to be spiteful.. I just needed space to love myself again.
Posted by tooba
I thought you posted something similar before... It seems he's hurt that you broke up with him (and it may seem suddenly or randomly done if you never told him you found those texts hinting he was distancing himself from you and becoming closer to others), and he's confused about getting back together because it's a I-don't-want-this-to-happen-again thing... since you're the one who broke up with him, he doesn't want to hurt his ego and wants you to initiate getting back together and work really hard for him. Seems like a matter of sizing up words with actions and seeing where your loyalty is. Childish on his part but I guess financial pressure will do that to you. His finances were already a hit, and I guess you breaking up with him was the cherry on top for him.


180's are done when people are confused and don't know how to cope, and they reach out to you in this state of confusion, whether or not they're aware of it.


Or at least that's what it looks like to me.
So are you saying its most likely he doesn't want to get back with me? I did so much for this guy that i don't regret because i did it because i loved him but right now I dont want to be a fool either because i wasn't the one with the contradicting actions. Through everything i was there and the one moment i stand up for myself and actually commit to a consequence I should be kissing "HIS" ass to make things work again!?? and he is testing my loyalty?? pretty fucking backwards
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Posted by tooba
I thought you posted something similar before... It seems he's hurt that you broke up with him (and it may seem suddenly or randomly done if you never told him you found those texts hinting he was distancing himself from you and becoming closer to others), and he's confused about getting back together because it's a I-don't-want-this-to-happen-again thing... since you're the one who broke up with him, he doesn't want to hurt his ego and wants you to initiate getting back together and work really hard for him. Seems like a matter of sizing up words with actions and seeing where your loyalty is. Childish on his part but I guess financial pressure will do that to you. His finances were already a hit, and I guess you breaking up with him was the cherry on top for him.


180's are done when people are confused and don't know how to cope, and they reach out to you in this state of confusion, whether or not they're aware of it.


Or at least that's what it looks like to me.
So are you saying its most likely he doesn't want to get back with me? I did so much for this guy that i don't regret because i did it because i loved him but right now I dont want to be a fool either because i wasn't the one with the contradicting actions. Through everything i was there and the one moment i stand up for myself and actually commit to a consequence I should be kissing "HIS" ass to make things work again!?? and he is testing my loyalty?? pretty fucking backwards
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BTW, he knew why i broke up with him regarding those text messages and when he finally listened he was away we had deeper issues revolving around the miscommunication and emotional/pysical disconnect. As a women you need this from your part and when they step away from that selfishly it leaves the partner all alone
@treatherbetter89

You said financial issues happened year 5-7. So I am assuming for about 2 years you 2 coped with it?


However everyone saying he felt being left on the top of financial struggle - it didn't stopped him from being a 'ladies man'!

Everyone overlooked that point...
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Posted by tooba
I thought you posted something similar before... It seems he's hurt that you broke up with him (and it may seem suddenly or randomly done if you never told him you found those texts hinting he was distancing himself from you and becoming closer to others), and he's confused about getting back together because it's a I-don't-want-this-to-happen-again thing... since you're the one who broke up with him, he doesn't want to hurt his ego and wants you to initiate getting back together and work really hard for him. Seems like a matter of sizing up words with actions and seeing where your loyalty is. Childish on his part but I guess financial pressure will do that to you. His finances were already a hit, and I guess you breaking up with him was the cherry on top for him.


180's are done when people are confused and don't know how to cope, and they reach out to you in this state of confusion, whether or not they're aware of it.


Or at least that's what it looks like to me.
So are you saying its most likely he doesn't want to get back with me? I did so much for this guy that i don't regret because i did it because i loved him but right now I dont want to be a fool either because i wasn't the one with the contradicting actions. Through everything i was there and the one moment i stand up for myself and actually commit to a consequence I should be kissing "HIS" ass to make things work again!?? and he is testing my loyalty?? pretty fucking backwards
Love doesn't just die, it dies slowly. Very slowly for us scorpios. And because he clearly loved you, I can't imagine that he's over you after a breakup. So, no, I am not saying that he doesn't want to get back with you. Where did you read that? I am saying, he loves you but is confused. Scorpios need someone who pull through thick and thin. I am saying that he probably felt even worse after your guys' breakup since it occurred after his financial pitfall, which perhaps made him associate you leaving with him with his financial issues (i.e., running when things got hard).


Yeah, scorpios are pretty fucking backwards. Mine left me to go back to a gemini who had a boyfriend when all I needed was more time to really become comfortable with him. He cheated, and yet expected the utmost honesty and openness from me. From where I stand, you have the upperhand because yours still loves you.


No, you don't and shouldn't kiss his ass. Looking back on my own experience now, I would have never called mine again after the first breakup, but sadly I only realized after he deleted his email account how desperate and pathetic I looked - chasing after a boy who cheated on me through and through - when I should have tested his grounds and his loyalty. I am saying, be encouraging and open with him and welcoming to take him back (if that's what you truly want), but he needs to work for you. Not the other way around.
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Yes I understand that. I did pull through thick or thin. The financial struggles weren't new. He was going through this for going on a good 3 years and i never thought to leave him. Although it did get under my skin that majority of the time everything always fell on me but like i said i love him and was willing to go through it with him until he got back on his feet and i believed in him that he would.

Im sorry you went through what you went through. Im happy you are sharing your experience because it does help me. I agree i honestly haven't spokent to him in a week and although i do want to call im fighting it because ive always allowed my emotions to carry me and i need him to step up. Initiating contact was a big step for him and im happy he did but after i expressed being open to working on us he disappears and i feel that that was so foul on so many levels.. it confused me like did this scare him off?
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Posted by tooba
I thought you posted something similar before... It seems he's hurt that you broke up with him (and it may seem suddenly or randomly done if you never told him you found those texts hinting he was distancing himself from you and becoming closer to others), and he's confused about getting back together because it's a I-don't-want-this-to-happen-again thing... since you're the one who broke up with him, he doesn't want to hurt his ego and wants you to initiate getting back together and work really hard for him. Seems like a matter of sizing up words with actions and seeing where your loyalty is. Childish on his part but I guess financial pressure will do that to you. His finances were already a hit, and I guess you breaking up with him was the cherry on top for him.


180's are done when people are confused and don't know how to cope, and they reach out to you in this state of confusion, whether or not they're aware of it.


Or at least that's what it looks like to me.
So are you saying its most likely he doesn't want to get back with me? I did so much for this guy that i don't regret because i did it because i loved him but right now I dont want to be a fool either because i wasn't the one with the contradicting actions. Through everything i was there and the one moment i stand up for myself and actually commit to a consequence I should be kissing "HIS" ass to make things work again!?? and he is testing my loyalty?? pretty fucking backwards
Love doesn't just die, it dies slowly. Very slowly for us scorpios. And because he clearly loved you, I can't imagine that he's over you after a breakup. So, no, I am not saying that he doesn't want to get back with you. Where did you read that? I am saying, he loves you but is confused. Scorpios need someone who pull through thick and thin. I am saying that he probably felt even worse after your guys' breakup since it occurred after his financial pitfall, which perhaps made him associate you leaving with him with his financial issues (i.e., running when things got hard).


Yeah, scorpios are pretty fucking backwards. Mine left me to go back to a gemini who had a boyfriend when all I needed was more time to really become comfortable with him. He cheated, and yet expected the utmost honesty and openness from me. From where I stand, you have the upperhand because yours still loves you.


No, you don't and shouldn't kiss his ass. Looking back on my own experience now, I would have never called mine again after the first breakup, but sadly I only realized after he deleted his email account how desperate and pathetic I looked - chasing after a boy who cheated on me through and through - when I should have tested his grounds and his loyalty. I am saying, be encouraging and open with him and welcoming to take him back (if that's what you truly want), but he needs to work for you. Not the other way around.
Yes I understand that. I did pull through thick or thin. The financial struggles weren't new. He was going through this for going on a good 3 years and i never thought to leave him. Although it did get under my skin that majority of the time everything always fell on me but like i said i love him and was willing to go through it with him until he got back on his feet and i believed in him that he would.

Im sorry you went through what you went through. Im happy you are sharing your experience because it does help me. I agree i honestly haven't spokent to him in a week and although i do want to call im fighting it because ive always allowed my emotions to carry me and i need him to step up. Initiating contact was a big step for him and im happy he did but after i expressed being open to working on us he disappears and i feel that that was so foul on so many levels.. it confused me like did this scare him off?
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Also, forgot to mention, The finincial didn't push me to leave at all it was the texts on top of disconnect and being disrespectful inregards to my feelings that pushed me to say the hell with this. No woman deserves that, and i know i was supporting him whole heartly no questions asked! smh
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@treatherbetter89

You said financial issues happened year 5-7. So I am assuming for about 2 years you 2 coped with it?


However everyone saying he felt being left on the top of financial struggle - it didn't stopped him from being a 'ladies man'!

Everyone overlooked that point...
That's my point! Thank you,... he made time to entertain the girls he worked with especially phone conversation while i was at work! i was livid! like i entertain NO ONE but him and 2 girlfriends of mine but that was even here and maybe there convos.. He literally was it for me SMH O.M.G what doesn't he understand i did have a right to leave to stand my ground! i never was heard and never stuck to consequences. but the moment i do its still my fault and i should've never initiated a break up because to him it was not big deal!
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Posted by treatherbetter89
Okay i am going to sum this up as simple as possible.. I was with a Scorpio guy for 7 years.. year 1 through 5 good.. End of year 5 through 7 were rough.. financial issues on his end caused issues between us to the point where he became distant emotionally and physically! After struggling with the fact that we were no longer intimate made me wonder where he was mentally because it obviously wasn't with me. I ended up looking through his phone, never done before and found innocent but very flirty text messages with female co workers.. innocent but unprofessional.( keep in mind over the years he was quite serious about me not entertaining mail friends at all which I didn't agree with but ended up doing to make him comfortable.) so the text messages were icing on the cake.. well I broke up with him.. no contact from him for 4 months but then out the blue he calls me..initiated contact twice in a 2 day span,conversation lasting 4+ hours a piece and full of us expressing our feelings and love for one another.


Anyways I take this as us working towards relinking but when I initiate the 3rd call and tell him he still has my heart and let's work towards something slowly verses jumping back in to a relationship fast because we both haven't healed from the hurt of it all,he plays it off as if he doesn't know if he wants to even be in a relationship again and switches it on me as this was your choice to break up and I didn't want too..and then I haven't heard from him in a week so far... is he playing mind games with me? And why!? It's a totally 180 from how he originally expressed his self, now it's as if I gave him his juice back and he's chilling! This has really hurt my feelings.. I'm a aqua btw


Btw I was always loyal to him.. I was so overwhelmed by the distance,no intimacy and lack of support as I was stressed from the FInacial responsibility and not having emotional support of love he use to shower me with.. I felt so alone guys and it was like he wasn't respecting my feelings?.. I'd never do anything to be spiteful.. I just needed space to love myself again.
So what was the real reason you actually broke it off with him?


Financial reasons and intimate disconnect? Or the texts?
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The texts sparked off everything..but it was the disconnect and disrespect towards me that i was eating until i ran across texts and i had it after that!.. the attitude he had towards me, i still feel came all from his circumstances and being stressed that he was in that position. The financial was there for a while and i never wouldve let him cause of that..i love him too much. so if it wasn't anything wrong but texts i would still be with him because i wouldn't have thrown away all our years over that. i definitely probably wouldve gave him a slight bit of hell so he would understand im not for that as i have no male friends( because of him to begin with)
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Posted by treatherbetter89
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Posted by tooba
I thought you posted something similar before... It seems he's hurt that you broke up with him (and it may seem suddenly or randomly done if you never told him you found those texts hinting he was distancing himself from you and becoming closer to others), and he's confused about getting back together because it's a I-don't-want-this-to-happen-again thing... since you're the one who broke up with him, he doesn't want to hurt his ego and wants you to initiate getting back together and work really hard for him. Seems like a matter of sizing up words with actions and seeing where your loyalty is. Childish on his part but I guess financial pressure will do that to you. His finances were already a hit, and I guess you breaking up with him was the cherry on top for him.


180's are done when people are confused and don't know how to cope, and they reach out to you in this state of confusion, whether or not they're aware of it.


Or at least that's what it looks like to me.
So are you saying its most likely he doesn't want to get back with me? I did so much for this guy that i don't regret because i did it because i loved him but right now I dont want to be a fool either because i wasn't the one with the contradicting actions. Through everything i was there and the one moment i stand up for myself and actually commit to a consequence I should be kissing "HIS" ass to make things work again!?? and he is testing my loyalty?? pretty fucking backwards
BTW, he knew why i broke up with him regarding those text messages and when he finally listened he was away we had deeper issues revolving around the miscommunication and emotional/pysical disconnect. As a women you need this from your part and when they step away from that selfishly it leaves the partner all alone
The disconnect was due to him feeling not worthy. He was in a shitty place, and he did shitty things... it's the human condition, unfortunately. We all have that kind of habit, except we do it differently. Some people cheat, some people become aggressive, some people drink to death and some fall into drugs...it's a means of coping. It does not mean he didn't or doesn't love you. At least, if I introspect, this is what it seems like to me. He's a mess.


After the break up though, he did call you, did he not? And you guys talked about getting back together, but he's hesitant... it's a pride thing. He's already in a shitty place, he's trying to hold onto whatever dignity he has left.


If I were you, I'd just remain patient and see what he does. If he consistently calls, not for hookups and anything physically affectionate, not even as an emotional crutch, but because he wants to see you, then it would be a green light to actually initiate getting back together... He probably doesn't want to take it slow because, as scorpios, we just want to be with the person we love again and not feel like anything damaging happened to begin with. In that sense, perhaps it's a kind of mind game, because he's reluctant to ask you to get back with him because he knows you'll want to go slow, but at the same time he wants everything to just be alright again and not feel like any breakup or hurt happened... But that's his issue to fix and work through, i.e., you guys broke up even if it's not what he wanted and because you were loyal then he should work through it to get back with you...


I hope this helps.
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The thing that makes me concerned( my emotions talking now) is that he hasn't reached out to me since i told him i was open and that was a week ago, wth!???
Posted by bmoon8
Stick to your guns - you broke up with him. Stay broken up and block him from contacting you.
You think i should just leave it as is? easier said than done because i still want him.. Im going to need alot of strength to block him
I'm curious as to whether or not he know you violated his privacy...


Posted by treatherbetter89
.. I just needed space to love myself again.


Anyway, may I ask why you didn't just say this^^, talk it out instead of breaking up with him?


You're both jerking each other around.
@tooba

Cheating is like symptoms of a deeper issue; it is not the issue itself.


OMG! Why no one see it except you???

I will save that statement. I mean I am talking about my issue now. Thanks!
Posted by PhoenixRising
I'm curious as to whether or not he know you violated his privacy...


Posted by treatherbetter89
.. I just needed space to love myself again.


Anyway, may I ask why you didn't just say this^^, talk it out instead of breaking up with him?


You're both jerking each other around.
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Yes, he is aware and even with all this going on I did acknowledge it before he did that I was wrong and I apologized because regardless I knew it was wrong. Out the 7 years I never went through his phone plus I never knew his passcode so the night I did it was astonishing how i I easily guessed it that easily
Posted by PhoenixRising
I'm curious as to whether or not he know you violated his privacy...


Posted by treatherbetter89
.. I just needed space to love myself again.


Anyway, may I ask why you didn't just say this^^, talk it out instead of breaking up with him?


You're both jerking each other around.
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Because many times prior to this all happening I would ask for space.. he never respected the idea because he wanted us to work things out and stay together. He never fully would try to under he always held so much control and it is always his way.. it became suffocating so I guess I just blew up.. I do wish I could've just stepped away and locked myself in a room before I made that decision but I needed him to finally take my demands of respect seriously and no matter how often I ask him to respect me or there will be consequences, me not standing firm allowed him to walk all over me
Posted by exo
you broke up with him and you're wondering why he's playing it cool (safe)? Confused
Hey cutie.


That fro...❤
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Posted by PhoenixRising
I'm curious as to whether or not he know you violated his privacy...


Posted by treatherbetter89
.. I just needed space to love myself again.


Anyway, may I ask why you didn't just say this^^, talk it out instead of breaking up with him?


You're both jerking each other around.
Because many times prior to this all happening I would ask for space.. he never respected the idea because he wanted us to work things out and stay together. He never fully would try to under he always held so much control and it is always his way.. it became suffocating so I guess I just blew up.. I do wish I could've just stepped away and locked myself in a room before I made that decision but I needed him to finally take my demands of respect seriously and no matter how often I ask him to respect me or there will be consequences, me not standing firm allowed him to walk all over me
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Right. The dynamics in your relationship was off from the beginning, so this whole contacting you and then pulling back only plays into that. There is no confusion from what I am seeing, simply a different version of the same thing.


I can't really address what his intentions are, but it reads like he missed you, reached out on impulse and then remembered how hurt he felt when you broke up with him and "slapped" you back into your corner---especially when you told him it's best you move slow. I doubt it was malicious, just an emotional impulse to reach out and then protect himself.


Sounds like he doesn't fully trust your intentions anymore given how things ended. I get it, you were there for him, have been loyal for years etc. Problem is, often with Scorps it only takes one action to change how we see/feel about you and that one action can undo everything else leading up to that depends on the maturity of the Scorp and how deeply they were hurt. It's not rational, but that's #fixedlife. Black and White. You can be trusted with my heart or you can't.


Doesn't mean love is gone, but for a Scorp trust trumps love.


If you would like to pursue this, give it time. Stick to your position of taking it slow and while you slow things down sort out the power dynamics in the relationship.

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