Scorpio self esteem..?

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by ScorpAscVirgo on Saturday, March 15, 2008 and has 37 replies.
Hi,
as a Scorpio Rising I wanted to ask you Sunny Side Scorps if you struggle with self esteem - not openly, obviously, but deep in the shadows...
More particularly I am interested to know: when you like someone romantically, does your self-knowledge sometimes put you off going into something with them because you know what your shadow side is capable of and you feel that you're not good enough for someone 'normal'? I seem to keep coming across Scorps saying I'm too good for them and they seem sincere. Is that what it is? (Like everyone else I'm pretty obviously flawed!)
Thanks
SAV
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Either that or we're really gulllible and men find it easy to get rid of us with smarmy words... lol
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never, ever.....lol
i will always think i am the better one of all(no matter if the relationship is sexual or it envolves feelings) and they cannot reach my level, maybe i am overly confident but i have always been like that, will not allow anyone to put me down, even if they may be right. when a scorpio says something and they seem serious they mean it, maybe they feel guilty about something....
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''you feel that you're not good enough for someone 'normal'? I seem to keep coming across Scorps saying I'm too good for them and they seem sincere''
I KNOW that I am too good for other people. I give a lot of myself to a person IF i VALUE and LOVE them. I am loyal and honest. I would support you no matter what. I will defend you if youre being attacked..etc
But I rarely get this in return. Only good/close friends I have that are also loyal and supportive/caring are Cancerians. Two of my closest friends are Cancers. There is an instinctive understanding between us that goes beyond words and logic...
Its REAL caring and love.
I can instintively tell when someone is being insincere and false. I see through superficiality VERY easily.
Back to your question... I believe that I AM too good for other people. This is why I only allow a very few people into my world - others I see as unworthy so not worth my time or attention.
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Right... so the current theories are that either he's a lying toad with stuff to hide, OR that he's picked up on what a wonderful person I am because of my storng Scorp?? lol
Hmmm....
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lol, i tend to always think that they are " a lying toad with stuff to hide", till they prove me wrong, and then we talk differently, it will be very difficult to trust someone, only few people are allowed in my world after i made sure that they are worthy of being there....
if you have said or done something wrong......you're history-this applies to people that are still on trial basis!!!
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Any input from guys here? Maybe it's only the women who think they're God's gift?? Winking
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Oh, THAT I know (I'm 47 ff's sake!)
I have to admit I'm intrigued by pages and pages of tales about quasi-dysfunctional relationships which in any other context would be met by shouts of, "Run for the hills!"
On here it's more, "Oooh, yes (giggle giggle) mine treats me like excrement too, isn't it sweet?"
I'm genuinely interested in all this.
Hey, I'm a Virgo... Winking
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''Right... so the current theories are that either he's a lying toad with stuff to hide, OR that he's picked up on what a wonderful person I am because of my storng Scorp?? lol
Hmmm....''
Is he Confiding in you? Is he intimate with you?
The clue is not in his words but in his ACTIONS.
We speak the language of gestures. A sweet genuine smile does wonders for me than a few hours of empty talk/words/waffle...
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Yes, and Yes.
And then he disappears (which is fine with me, I also have a life). He returns, of course, in his own time. Perhaps he is just takin a LONG time to decide whether he trusts me, which is all good.
Being a Virgo lady, I have to watch that I don't spend hours analysing this. (Hollow laugh - other Virgos will understand the amount of time I now put into Not Analysing This!)
However, it's true, n'est-ce pas, that disappearing can be the start of the end in many new relationships.
So - how does one discern the difference?
Let me guess - you just hang in there and post on here for the next ten years about how he's treating you like excrement? lol
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We disappear because we NEED our space and privacy to digest our thoughts. During this time of retreat, we are THINKING. We cant do that with you/or anyone around.
If he is coming back to you - that is a great sign. He likes you.
I do this with the one I like... I disappear for a while and then always come back to him. HE is the one Im thinking about. Im sure your Scorpio is thinking about you too. Youre letting him come to YOU. Thats good.
How does he behave when he is around you?
Also, note that we TEST you in many ways for your honesty and loyalty. This is so that we are almost 100% sure before we trust you and allow you into our world...
I understand how we can be very confusing. Blowing hot and cold.
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....all of this is very true, but i must say......why don't you want to analyze it???i think you just have to analyze the things that matter to you, to make sure they come out right or to make sure that if it is something that can affect you in a negative way(hurt you), you will be aware and prepared!!!!!!
i always tend to analyze....
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When he's around me he is very touchy-feely, doesn't *say* things to express his affection but I see it in his eyes. We laugh a lot together - he's the only man I've ever met who can make me laugh so much, and I make him laugh too. He talks about things in the past which made him sad - not a lot of details, just opens the box if you get what I mean... I just let him say what he wants, talk a little then leave the subject there, not prying and not offering solutions.
He's mentioned holidays and we've joked about destinations but again - nothing firm (ahem!). I'm leaving it up to him - and he's more of a spontaneous person so planning isn't likely to be his strong suit I guess.
I'm fine with the 'needing space' thing but it is difficult to know you're on someone's mind and easy to assume you're reading what you WANT to be true into something...
I haven't said a word about my feelings for him (not love, just strong affection which I could see going that way eventually). It's very early days... but nor do I want him to think I don't care. Any ideas? Or should I just keep on keeping on?
Thanks. smile
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So he IS opening up to you. Slowly. He is not going to rush something with a woman that he likes and sees a future with.
For him to even mention sad things from the past is a big step. Some Scorpions never open themselves up fully, not even to our closest friends. This doesnt mean we dont trust you - it means its in our PRIVATE territory where no trespassing is allowed.
Im sure that youve earned his repect for him to come to you and talk/laugh so much. He likes spending time with you which means he feels comfortable with you.
We have VERY FEW people in our lives we are close to or want to grow close to, so I have no doubts in my mind that hes thinking about you. Youre spending time together and enjoying yourselves. He IS thinking of you (but he probably wont let you know that he is).
Like I mentioned before - we speak the language of gestures. He WILL pick up on these subtle gestures/hints that you give out. Eg, a nice look in the eye etc. You dont have to say a word - your actions speak for themselves.
As you say - its early days so just go with the flow for now. Im sure youre doing your own thing - this Shows that you have a life of your own other than him. He'll like this. If he hasnt been in contact for a long while - then you initiate contact - even a quick casual text message. This shows that youre thinking about him.
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Honestly, I think if a guy tells you you're too good for him, he probably means, "You're just not my type." At least you know he respects you enough not to try to use you and take advantage of your feelings for him.

If it means anything, I am Scorpio and I do not suffer from self-esteem issues in particular. I am no more insecure than the next person. In fact, I have a solid sense of who I am and my potential. It may not always seem that way to others, b/c I tend to be shy. Reserved at times, but mostly shy.

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I agree ScorpSuperior, which is why I've been puzzled. Actually his exact words were more along the lines of, "You need someone who can give you more [time, meals out, etc]" (he doesn't have a lot of money, which again doesn't bother me in the least, but I can see it would possibly have bothered him. We've talked a lot since then though).
More generally then, if Scorpios all have this Dark and Dangerous side yet are compassionate people as well for the most part, doesn't it ever worry you that you might damage people you care about? Or do you rather just think, "We're adults, let 'em take their chance'?
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yes, we are very compationate too, but if someone or something hurt us then you see the negative side, obviously, and yes we can hurt the people we care about but the passion that we have inside and the emotions are stronger than us so we just react on the spot, a bit like the survival instinct, it a defense mechanism. we trust the people that we love, so we are sure they will understand our reactions aince it took a lot to get to that point.....
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Update - yes, he's back, of course... And whoever wrote (I think on here somewhere) about just learning to enjoy the dance, I believe that's probably right. I know he isn't dancing with anyone else...
Tonight we went as part of a group to a poetry open mike night. I wasn't going to read anything but suddenly I decided to; two poems, one about my passion for life. He said very little whilst we were with the others but ran to catch up with me as I walked to my car and held me close and told me he was proud of me.
Aw... smile
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***I seem to keep coming across Scorps saying I'm too good for them and they seem sincere. Is that what it is?***
My scorp friend seriously believed this. I guess they base that on many things, social circle. How many more languages you can speak than them, income, how world traveled you are... Eduation level. I just tell him those are statistics. A person is their soul and heart, and he should neve think someone is too good for him. He is a great person. I told him a person may not be right for another, but that doesn't always make that person better just different
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ScorpAscVirgo, what are you talking about? I do not think , I KNOW we do not struggle with self -esteem. I think that is a personal delimma. Maybe they are sensing that you are a perfectionist and that you want and like to appear perfect. This of course makes the naughty but good scorpio feel judged and misunderstood, especially if your pulling the un evlooved ones, or October ones.. lol Yeah , that sounds like a personal issue, maybe just the people your attracting. Why in the hell would someone say that to you, unless of course,you make them feel that your too good, lol I know what I need to work on relationship wise but it's personal cause it reflects my early experiences. I DO KNOW THAT DEEP INSIDE, I AM THE BEST!!!! KNOW ONE DOES IT BETTA! AND RATHER I BE A SCORP OR NOT, I'M CHI. NOONE TOPS ME .. . DEEP inside, I feel i have to be at a certain level in my life before commtting , that all.
IF you read, they say that Scorpios have surpreme confidence, that we don't have all those insecurities that other signs have... We're thev shznit. It's kind of hard to not feel good about that~
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ScorpAscVirgo, I 'm not quite understanding , are you a SCorp wanna be or are you a virgo with a SCorp rising???
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or are you a Scorpio? Everybody wants to be down?
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Scorpios can 'taste' people, sometimes even before they meet you in person. I think that when a Scorpio considers a person, they wrap that person's essence around their instincts like you'd let a piece of hard candy roll around in your mouth. If they like what they taste, or if they feel that you fulfill a desire they may have, you get to stay.
If they are more base then they won't be able to accept the love of a lighter soul. This is the signs of the celibate monks just as much as the delicious sexual beasts. They are capable of supreme self sacrifice. They accept their darkness, but sometimes the light hurts them too much.
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''They accept their darkness, but sometimes the light hurts them too much.''
We accept the light AND dark. It doesn't just make life more interesting, but shows the full/complete picture of reality. This is what life really is - comprising of light AND dark.
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As I said in my opening post, I'm a Scorpio rising.
No, I'm not a perfectionist about relationships. At least, not about what I accept in people - I'm known for being approachable and people often tell me their Deep Dark Secrets knowin thye won't be judged. I've seen it quite often written that Scorpios have hidden insecurity issues... I have known a few who did (men and women alike).
So what's the thing with 'October-born' Scorpios? And how does a whole sign get away with having unevolved members..? lol I know the theory, but I can't help thinking it sprang originally from the fact that not everyone fits their sign so Scorpios took it upon themselves to explain why. (A bit like the 'tidy-minded Virgos with messy houses' of whom I am one!)
Anyway, QS, I do speak four languages which certainly did impress him and I have already had a conversation about how such accomplishments aren't an indicator of someone's worth as a person, so perhaps you're on to something. We seem to be going strong, whatever. Winking Thanks everyone for your input.
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First of all ScorpAcsVirgo, you just offended ME!!!!! tHAT'S A fucgking lie and you know that. You have created a belief system and now you are looking for comments and opinions to support that bull sheit belief system of yours, now.!!! THERE IS NO SUCH THANG AS A REAL AZZ TRUE AZZ SCORPIO ON EARTH WHO SUFFERS SELF ESTEEM ISSUES, THAT'S SOME BULLSHEIT.. WE ARE TOO MUCH AND TOO POWERFUL... JUST GO ASK ME! GO ASK DIDDY, GO ASK HILIARY, GO ASK CONDELISA, GO ASK WHOPPY, THE LIST GOES ON....>>> I DON;T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM COMPREHENDING WHAT YOU READ, BUT THERE ARE NO WRITINGS OUT THERE THAT STATE THAT WE HAVE DEEP INSECURITY ISSUES. IN FACT, THAT IS ONLY TRUE ABOUT YOUR SIGN, VIRGO. WHICH IS THE TRUELY INSECURE SIGN , WHO FACADES THEMSELVES WITH FALSE CONFIDENCE... READ AGAIN.. IF ANYTHING WRITINGS STATE THAT, WHAT OTHERS THINK , WE DO NOT CARE. WE SEEK NO OPINIONS, OR VALIDITY CLARIFICATION. ESPECIALLY NOT FROM YOU... I THINK THE TRUE PROBLEM IS , YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND US , WHICH MOST VIRGOS DON'T ... ANYWAY, `I CAN'T STAND VIRGOS FOR THAT REASON ALONE. MOST OF WHAT YOU GUYS SAY IS , REALLY WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR OWN SELVES, =HINT. IT'S CALLED A PROJECTION!!! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO FEEL BAD ABOUT OURSELVES, WE REPRESENT THE TRUTH. AND WHAT THE TRUTH REALLY IS, IS WHAT THEY LABEL AS CONFIDENCE. PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE SUFFER INSECURITY. WHAT YOU'RE COMING ACROSS IS, SOME FAKE AS UNEVOLVED AZZ SCORPIOS WHO OBVIOUSLY ARE TOO WEAK IF THEY'RE LETTING YOUR AZZ COME DOWN ON THEM. I THINK YOU SAY THINGS THAT ARE COMPLETELY UNTRUE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS ,ACTIVATED IGNORANCE. ACTOVATED IGNORANCE IS WHEN SOMEONE TAKES IN INFORMATION , MISUNDERSTANDS IT AND MISUSES IT! YOU THEN SAY THINGS LIKE, THEY ARE INSECURE, OR YOU MAKE COMMENTS LIKE, THAT OL BULLSHEIT FORUM U MADE THE OTHER DAY LABELED AS, TO ALL THE STRONG SCORPIO WOMEN= THE ONE ABOUT THE APPPLES AT THE TOP. AS IF WE NEED ENCOURGEMENT.. MY GUESSES ARE, YOU PROBABLY TREAT THE SCORPS YOU'VE MET AS IF THEY HAVE THESE FALSE ISSUES YOU THINK THEY HAVE... AND AS A RESULT, GUESS WHAT, THEY BECOME THEM. RESEARCH SHOWS THAT, IF YOU THINK SOMEONE IS BAD AND YOU TREAT THEM LIKE THEY'RE BAD, THEY WILL BE , BAD!!~=HINT... I THINK THE PROBLEM IS YOU, THE PEOPLE U'VE MET PROBABLY FEEL UNCOMFROTABLE AROUND YOU, SO THEY EXPRESS WHAT YOU THINK THEY WANT TO HEAR. YOU SO BUSY THINKING PEOPLE EXPRESS WHAT'S DEEP AND PERSONAL TO YOU, YOU GOT YOUR AZZ ON THIS WEBSITE, WITH A NAME LIKE ScorpAscRising,
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ASKING US QUESTIONS ABOUT SCORPIOS YOU THINK YOU ALREADY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT.. I THINK YOUR COMMENT SPEAKS FOR IT'S SELF AND AGAINST IT'S SELF. IT'S CRAP AND YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM IS A PROJECTION. I MEAN, THE FACT THAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE A SCORPIO RISING AND YOU SAY WE HAVE DEEP INSECURE ISSUES SHOWS THAT, THAT IS YOUR TURE SUN SIGN KICKING IN,IT'S YOU HUN, YOU. LOL... IT'S YOUR PROJECTION, REMEMBER , IT'S YOUR WORDS AND YOUR FORUM, BY THE WAY BROAD, HOW'S YOUR SELF ESTEEM??? HA HA ... I DON'T THINK YOU WILL EVER KNOW WHAT MY SIGN IS ABOUT ! BECAUSE YOUR NOT ONE, YOUR A FRONTER , ON HER FRONTING LIKE YOU CAN RELATE TO THE SCORPS WHEN IN FACT, YOUR JUST A VIRGO, ANOTHER GROUPEEE. !! A FAN!!! IN FACT , IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, A VIRGO GUY FRIEND ONCE CALLED ME ASKING ME IF SCORPIOS WERE REALLY FREAKS AND WAS ASKING ME SEX QUESTIONS. I LAUGHED BUT REALIZED THAT, HIS OL FREAKY AZZ WAS THE ONE ASKING ME THE QUESTIONS. IT WAS HIM ,WHO WAS THE FREAK. IN FACT, THEY SAY VIRGOS ARE THE HORES OF THE ZODIAC AND SCORPIOS HAVE A UNDERSERVED STEROTYPE. MY POINT IS, HIS REFLEXION WAS PROJECTED ON TO ME. THE PROBLEM WITH YOU VIRGOS IS, YOU THINK U HAVE THE RIGHT ANSWERS, PERFECTION MY FOOT... UR FRIENDS PROBABLY FEEL MISUNDERSTOOD , BEING IN THE FACT THAT, WE ARE THE MOST MISUDERSTOOD. OR MAYBE SOMEONE MADE THEM FEEL LIKE THEY WERE GUITLY OR BAD, WHO KNOWS,I KNOW IF I TOLD SOMEONE THEY WERE TOO GOOD FOR ME, IN WHICH I NEVER WOULD OR COULD, IT WOULD BE FOR A REASOPN=HINT... HUH, NOW IF YOU WANT TO READ SOME REAL SHIET , PICK UP MY WRITINGS,WHICH WILL BE COMING TO YOUR STORES SOON.. , OTHER THAN THAT, I'M REMAINING QUIET TILL THEN... KNOW THY TRUTH AND KNOW THY SELF..
GUESS WHAT~
HEWWWW, NOW THAT FEELS BETTER...
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(Sipping on gin and juice) Pg versionsmile
With no more �juana in the D-O-G
I�m gonna have a whole lot of energy
And I�ll, get out, of bed
Before its three in the afternoon since I will have a clear head
I have kicked a little habit that had made
Some, people think that I was crazed and
2 in the morning and my family�s all sleeping
Now I will sleep then too
I got little Snoop Doggs and they are getting real big
I don�t want them to make the mistakes I did
With them I�ll spend more time
I�m gonna watch them do what they love and I�ll teach them to rhyme
I�m still gonna have some fun a lot
But (but what) I don�t want no pot
All I�m gonna smoke is the defense
Cause my, b-ball, skills are really gonna be immense
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Rolling down the street, eyes on the road, sipping on orange juice
Laid back (With my mind on my image and my image getting clean)
Now that I don�t use the wacky weed
Lots of junk food in my house, I think I won�t need
Cause it used to be, like every night
The weed had my stomach fooled, I needed a bite
Of anything at all that was lying on my smokeroom floor
Sometimes I�d eat some doggie biscuits and then really want some more
But now all, the food I eat is real
Now I am smart enough not to eat a canine meal
And my IQ score just went up by twenty
In case you don�t know that is plenty
And now I find, I have quite a clear mind
No longer mentally blind, since I put weed behind
I�m kind, to the Snoop Dogg�s brain cells for, the first time
Because, I�m just
Rolling down the street, eyes on the road, sipping on orange juice
Laid back (With my mind on my image and my image getting clean)
Earlier today, my homey Dr. Dre came by and wanted to share a J
But I told him nay, because those muppet puppets recently kicked
Me out of their flick
I have to improve my image and also my health
Physical as well as my lyrical wealth
The rhymes I�ll be droppin�, ain�t no stoppin�
I�ll start some centers for the children of Compton
To help them, to stay off of the mean streets
Teach them about books, and about b-ball and beats
Don�t want them to wait �til they�re thirty-one
Until they are done, loving the blunt
Now I am
Rolling down the street, eyes on the road, sipping on orange juice
Laid back (With my mind on my image and my image getting clean)
Rolling down the street, eyes on the road, sipping on orange juice
Laid back (With my mind on my image and my image getting clean)
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Twilight Fury , THAT IS SOME TRUE SHEIT, WE ARE SOO LOVING , WE DO DIGEST OUR LOVE ONES., NOONE , I MEAN NOONE CAN DO THIS LIKE WE CAN.. SOOOO SOOOO REAL. BUT BE CAREFULE NOT TELL ALL THE SECRECTS, LOL.. EVEN THOUGH IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, I MEAN, IT'S SO MUCH TO US , WE CAN GO ON AND ON FOR YEARS...NOONE IS MORE COMPLEX. ANYWAY. , YEAH WE DO TEST PEOPLE. I KNOW I DO, SHEIT, BEFORE I GIVE MYSELF, MY HEART, I HAVE TO KNOW YOUR THE TRUTH.. EVEN IF WE'RE KICKING IT AND OR DATING,OER BECOMING FRIENDS, DOESN'T MATTER, DON'T MEAN I HAVE LET YOU INSIDE OF ME... YOU MUST EARN MY FRIENDSHIP , MY LOVE. IN WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. THEY MAKE THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE'RE ALREADY FRIENDS... LAZY AZZ PEOPLE... LOL
I FIND PEOPLE FAILING MY TEST ALL THE TIME,, LOL BITCHESSES........
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I wish I had ur self esteem smile
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MARCHGIRL , WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? BUMPING ON SOME OL AZZ SNOOP DOG?? OKAY RAP GIRL, 80'S BABY
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Hellllllllllllllllll ya beeeeeotch! That iz how I roll ha ha! I can put up some John Denver but he is not exciting as snoop dog.
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Snoop Dog is my MAN'S . He so damn funny, I love his funky drawers....

Guess what i just saw on Every Body loves Ramond.. They were critizing his brother, his mama,and ex girlfriends. All of a sudden he got mad and said.. "Forget it , I don't even know why i set down to listen to this all you can eat assessment".. ha ha hah ha ha ha
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Projection... hmm, there's a thought. I wonder if you do it too?
(You know, when you point a finger, three point back at yourself).
Sorry to say that your ranting has sort of proved my point - to me at least. Nobody secure would have bothered giving me the time and energy you just did. But thanks for your responses anyway.
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I KNEW YOU WOULD SAY THAT,so predicitve. BUT YOU ALSO PROVE MY POINT, YOU HAVE CREATED A BELIEF SYSTEM AND OF COURSE, U WISH IT Were TRUE. YOU WILL LOOK FOR ANYTHING, TO SUPPORT YOUR BULLSHEIT LIE YOU KEEP TELLING YOURSELF. NAW HELL, NO , I KNOW WHO I AM , A SPIRITUAL BEING. INSECURITY IS EARTH BOUND, I AM WHAT I WAS CREATED TO BE... YOUR FORUM WAS INSULTING TO ALL THE SCORPIOS, AND THAT MY FRIEND,PISSED ME OFF. HOW DEAR YOU DISRESPECT MY SIGN WITH THAT BULLSHEIT... SO DON'T TRY FLIPPING YOUR PROJECTIONS ON TO ME...
I THINK YOU ARE TRUELY THE INSECURE BIYATHCH.. ON HERE , JOIN ALL YOUR FAKE SCORPIO FRIENDS AND SING THE WORDS, COM BA YA!~ LOL
AND TRUTH BE TOLD, I BET YOUR FRIENDS ARE ATTRACTED TO YOU BECAUSE YOU SHARE THAT COMMONALITY.. THINK ABOUT IT!~~~ I BET ALL YOUR FRIENDS HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR SIGN IS, YOU ATTRACT WHAT YOU ARE. U HAVE THE DEEP ESTEEM PROBLEMS. AND YOUR SUN SIGN PROVES IT.. LOL BEFORE YOU CALL ANYONE DEEPLY INSECURE, TRY LOOKING AT YOUR NAME, ScorpioAcsVirgo, lol.. you love yourself sooo much , you decided to name your self after me!! after the scorpio sign...LOL ah ha ha ha ha lol.. look at my name, and look at yours... lol Your so dumb , u couldn't even respond to the other intellectual perspectives i presented to you.. You can't even see that I opened up your eyes to a more true perspective, like yourself. You can't even see i tried to help you.. Yeah truth be told, Virgos are so Narcassisitic that , they would get a kick out of WISHING that the most powerful sign could have esteem issues. lol I laugh at you because you revealed yourself then you had the nerve to say, " well anyone secure would have not even responded" funny because , is that your way of saying that, you know what you have said is bull sheit and deep inside you are projecting your own reflexion... Funny cause what about the other people who didn't respond, does that also prove that your theory is disproven.?? lol Yeah I speak for all , I am all.. I am me first, signs are only a small smigit of who we are.. A spirtually intuned person would know that much.. ( GOD) does not see zodiac signs, nor judge us by them , genuis... Your theory is wrong for that matter alone..
Yeah biyatch keep swinging , keep swinging off of these nuts!!! lol -JOKE
AND UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FACE THE TRUTH ABOUT YOURSELF AND THEN APOLOGIZE FOR BRINGING THAT NON-SENSE MY WAY, DO NOT RESPOND TO ME..
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YOUR RIGHT, YOU AREN'T WORTH THE TIME OR ENERGY, THANKS FOR OPENING MY EYES, ((SCORPIOascvirgo) lol I'LL TRY TO GET THIS FORUM REMOVED...
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