Scorpios and plutonian people....

Tell me what kind of mind games you play or have played on a significant other?

What about power struggles...like what have you done to get the upper hand when you feel like you were "losing" it?

People that have dealt with them...tell me your stories...

Posted by Impulsv

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Break it to you but does not apply with my Scorpio stellium

👀 Never in your entire existence...ever played mind games with someone? I find that hard to believe but kudos to you if true!

No mind games, but I have tested people in my relationships. Like saying certain things to gauge responses. I kinda hate the thought of mind games in intimate relationships. Seems dishonest or sneaky.

I did it, but not as a form to get an upper hand. I did it to show my ex husband wasn't as knowledgeable as he believed he was. He constantly believes he knows everything and is smarter than anyone else.

So I purposely play dumb, knowing I have the accurate information already researched, and suggest having someone unbiased make the ultimate decision based off current laws or rules. He is too ego driven to do so himself and relies on opinions or what he thinks is right, himself.

He always screws himself over, when I do this. And then is more inclined to compromise after. Worked many of times, thus far.

I got obsessed with partners and tried to control the rship

Ridiculous looking back...my Venus in Scorpio could be quite inwardly and sometimes outwardly vindictive and Moon in Taurus stubborn about it 🙄

Learned my lessons now though. A lot of my behaviour was due to an excess of passion, which when turned on its head was very difficult for the other person to deal with

Stellium in Sco in the 7th

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Posted by MyStarsShine

I got obsessed with partners and tried to control the rship

Ridiculous looking back...my Venus in Scorpio could be quite inwardly and sometimes outwardly vindictive and Moon in Taurus stubborn about it 🙄

Learned my lessons now though. A lot of my behaviour was due to an excess of passion, which when turned on its head was very difficult for the other person to deal with

Stellium in Sco in the 7th

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Do you ever feel people are constant let down and lack depth?

I don’t play mind games.

But I know sometimes it can come out like that from an outside perspective.

I know what I want and how to get it and if I don’t get it then I don’t care anymore about it. That seems to make some people crazy but it for real I don’t do it to control or play games.

How do I find out if I'm a Plutonian? Sorry hon, still learning about my chart lol

Posted by Muderface

How do I find out if I'm a Plutonian? Sorry hon, still learning about my chart lol

A lot of personal planets in scorp

Pluto in the 1st house

Pluto aspecting personal planets and angles (ascendant)

Scorp rising as Pluto is your chart ruler

A loaded 8th house

And a combination of the above.

I'm sure there is more but I can't think of them atm.

Posted by halalbae

I dont have a story but I think this side of plutonian people only shows when they have the other persons Mars sextile their Pluto and their own Jupiter square the other persons personal planets. A lot of misunderstandings and no forgiveness for each other at all

Why do you think the sextile to mars would show plutonian behavior and not the square?

Posted by Oak

I'm meant to be Pluto dominant, but I feel like I'm quite upfront. I don't seem that interested in mind games. Is that my Saturn influence comin' through?

It probably helps keep you in check I'm sure.

Posted by blvckphvse

Power struggles, Yes.. Mind games, No. They are completely different things and Scorpio or Plutonian people are NOT about mind games.

Sure they are...they don't have to be in your face mind games...they can be subtle or completely unaware they are doing it until looking back at certain situations.

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Posted by Muderface

How do I find out if I'm a Plutonian? Sorry hon, still learning about my chart lol

A lot of personal planets in scorp

Pluto in the 1st house

Pluto aspecting personal planets and angles (ascendant)

Scorp rising as Pluto is your chart ruler

A loaded 8th house

And a combination of the above.

I'm sure there is more but I can't think of them atm.

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Ok I got Pluto in Scorpio 6th house.

Sun, Nep, Saturn, Uranus and Merc in 8th house...hold up girl. I'll go do more reading and will reply back later but thank you.😘

Posted by Ixion

But you find our sex appeal so enticing @LostinMyMind11 😏

Duh lol

Just wish I could find one where the power struggles and mind games were at a minimum or that they were aware of their power and influences too...a easier flowing plutonian relationship. It probably doesn't exist lol

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by Muderface

How do I find out if I'm a Plutonian? Sorry hon, still learning about my chart lol

A lot of personal planets in scorp

Pluto in the 1st house

Pluto aspecting personal planets and angles (ascendant)

Scorp rising as Pluto is your chart ruler

A loaded 8th house

And a combination of the above.

I'm sure there is more but I can't think of them atm.

Ok I got Pluto in Scorpio 6th house.

Sun, Nep, Saturn, Uranus and Merc in 8th house...hold up girl. I'll go do more reading and will reply back later but thank you.😘

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Yes please do...I'm curious.

You're welcome!

I’ve been told I play mind games but if I do it’s not even something I’m consciously doing so I couldn’t tell ya

Posted by blvckphvse

Power struggles, Yes.. Mind games, No. They are completely different things and Scorpio or Plutonian people are NOT about mind games.

I think you’re right

Posted by TheRabbit

When DXPers want to feel special:

Yeah yeah yeah...I think you played this one before 🙄

Unless they are immature, those with heavy Pluto energy in their natal chart know how to process the energy and don't play mind games or partake in all that power struggle nonsense. It's said in synastry if you have Pluto aspects with someone it can trigger the negative qualities of Pluto energy but it'll mostly be the non-Plutonian that'll struggle with processing it. Or you know sometimes the other person is a shitty human in general to not just you but to others in their life too.

Thought about this more and I now think people read too much into things I do and say and interpret it as mind games or power struggles

I think I’m being straight forward but they think I’m trying to play some kind of game

They’re looking for shit that isn’t there 🤷🏼‍♀️

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When DXPers want to feel special:

Hehe 😆

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by TheRabbit

When DXPers want to feel special:

Yeah yeah yeah...I think you played this one before 🙄

STAY OFF OUR LAWN

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YEAH! GET UP YOUR OWN END OR I'LL GET ME MAM ONTO YA!

The power struggles stop with Scorp people when they take control of themselves ... it's really that simple

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by TheRabbit

When DXPers want to feel special:

Yeah yeah yeah...I think you played this one before 🙄

STAY OFF OUR LAWN

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Skedaddle

Posted by SassyKiwi

Unless they are immature, those with heavy Pluto energy in their natal chart know how to process the energy and don't play mind games or partake in all that power struggle nonsense. It's said in synastry if you have Pluto aspects with someone it can trigger the negative qualities of Pluto energy but it'll mostly be the non-Plutonian that'll struggle with processing it. Or you know sometimes the other person is a shitty human in general to not just you but to others in their life too.

True. I think it can depend on the aspect as well. If you are used to more positive natal aspects to pluto and someone comes along and hits the harder aspects with you..it's almost like a new kinda energy at play even if both are plutonian.

Posted by halalbae

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by halalbae

I dont have a story but I think this side of plutonian people only shows when they have the other persons Mars sextile their Pluto and their own Jupiter square the other persons personal planets. A lot of misunderstandings and no forgiveness for each other at all

Why do you think the sextile to mars would show plutonian behavior and not the square?

I think the sextile is much better than the square or opposition when it comes to temper because even though the Mars person gets angry and frustrated with Pluto, they still know how to contain their anger. So its no abusive like a square

But the aspect shows possessive and controlling streaks, very reckless about going into extremes of emotional experience to penetrate to the core of their love for each other and sexuality. Like they have something to conquer and nothing stops them from doing so = plutonian to me

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Interesting...

I have this aspect with someone...their Pluto Sextile to my Mars. But we tend to always try and one up each other. Like they will say something that I'm not particularly fond of but instead of saying something about it in that moment (I usually do later when I had time to process)..I will take what they said and take it one step further to gauge their reaction. Rinse repeat vice versa. 🤷

Sometimes I realize what I'm doing but other times it seems very automatic.

We have other Pluto aspects as well that I'm sure factor in.

Posted by peachy06

I have no time to play mind games. I test people though to be sure they're trustworthy.

How do you test them?

The testing thing is so Scorpionic. I did it with my last lover and he being Scrorp dominant caught me out

He sussed me

"Shamed" 🌝

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by peachy06

I have no time to play mind games. I test people though to be sure they're trustworthy.

How do you test them?

That's a secret. 🤫

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I knew you were gonna say something like that 😂

Posted by edgelord

are you talking about scorpionic people or plutonic people? some of us are both. some are either/or. just asking so i know how to respond.

Either or really.

Posted by MadHatter2

I just bought my first gold scorpion chain. I'll update on mind games in a couple weeks.. 🤞🤞I'm good at it.. otherwise I wasted $ 12 & made a QVC account for nothing

Ok...I'll make sure I don't delete so that you can update us 😜

Posted by MadHatter2

I just bought my first gold scorpion chain. I'll update on mind games in a couple weeks.. 🤞🤞I'm good at it.. otherwise I wasted $ 12 & made a QVC account for nothing

Oh and we are going to need a pic of you wearing this gold scorpion chain....sans shirt though. I/we want to get a full look at the chain and a shirt might obscure it. 👍👌

Mind games probably isn’t the right term but I know what you mean. I test people but normally it’s when it’s a new relationship of any kind or when I’m suddenly feeling unsure of someone.

I want to know what makes you tick and where your weaknesses are. I’d never really use them against you but people will only tell you what they want you to know about them, so I pry a little here and there to find out what you’re hiding and what your boundaries are.

It could be anything really. Respect and loyalty are the things I look for in anyone so those things come to mind as well. I also remember everything so if words stop adding up my spidey senses go off.

Other times I have no real reason to think something is off other than pure gut instinct. When I listen to my gut good things happen, when I don’t, I’m a fool. So if my instincts say something is off, it is, and I will start feeling my way through until I figure out what that is specifically.

I don’t do the spiteful vengeful stuff anymore. that’s very low vibration underevolved stuff and I have no time for drama of any kind. You either align with my higher self or you fall off the radar rather quickly.

Posted by six4six

Mind games probably isn’t the right term but I know what you mean. I test people but normally it’s when it’s a new relationship of any kind or when I’m suddenly feeling unsure of someone.

I want to know what makes you tick and where your weaknesses are. I’d never really use them against you but people will only tell you what they want you to know about them, so I pry a little here and there to find out what you’re hiding and what your boundaries are.

It could be anything really. Respect and loyalty are the things I look for in anyone so those things come to mind as well. I also remember everything so if words stop adding up my spidey senses go off.

Other times I have no real reason to think something is off other than pure gut instinct. When I listen to my gut good things happen, when I don’t, I’m a fool. So if my instincts say something is off, it is, and I will start feeling my way through until I figure out what that is specifically.

I don’t do the spiteful vengeful stuff anymore. that’s very low vibration underevolved stuff and I have no time for drama of any kind. You either align with my higher self or you fall off the radar rather quickly.

Yeah, mind games might not be the best term to use really.

So what if someone else who is also plutonian gets to you first...like you show your vulnerable side and you weren't really ready to do that but they brought it out in you. Would you be embarrassed or standoffish, keep your distance or just deal because they would already kinda understand where you are coming from?

Posted by LostinmyMind11

Posted by six4six

Mind games probably isn’t the right term but I know what you mean. I test people but normally it’s when it’s a new relationship of any kind or when I’m suddenly feeling unsure of someone.

I want to know what makes you tick and where your weaknesses are. I’d never really use them against you but people will only tell you what they want you to know about them, so I pry a little here and there to find out what you’re hiding and what your boundaries are.

It could be anything really. Respect and loyalty are the things I look for in anyone so those things come to mind as well. I also remember everything so if words stop adding up my spidey senses go off.

Other times I have no real reason to think something is off other than pure gut instinct. When I listen to my gut good things happen, when I don’t, I’m a fool. So if my instincts say something is off, it is, and I will start feeling my way through until I figure out what that is specifically.

I don’t do the spiteful vengeful stuff anymore. that’s very low vibration underevolved stuff and I have no time for drama of any kind. You either align with my higher self or you fall off the radar rather quickly.

Yeah, mind games might not be the best term to use really.

So what if someone else who is also plutonian gets to you first...like you show your vulnerable side and you weren't really ready to do that but they brought it out in you. Would you be embarrassed or standoffish, keep your distance or just deal because they would already kinda understand where you are coming from?

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When you say Plutonian, are you referring to a scorp Pluto, a scorp sun, scorp placements, or “darker Pluto” aspects?

As far as Scorpio women or Scorpio placements ina woman’s charts, no. I love Scorpio sun/placements women and get along with them really well, guys too, some of my best friends are scorp dudes and I’ve always had scorp roommates as well. (Btw I’m NOT a scorp sun) but I’m never in a position of weakness or anything. idk enough about aspects to know why that happens but it does.

When I draw a Scorpio in I really draw them in and they’re hooked. I really don’t have to do much. I’ve been described as having a magnetic/dynamic presence (it’s odd to talk about myself like that lol) anyway, but it’s x10 with Scorpio women. I had a female Scorpio roommate a couple years back. We would talk for hours at night about relationships, love, life, everything really. She also plays acoustic guitar and I write songs/poems so we’d makeittle songs together lol. It wasn’t long until she was trying really hard to put moves on me. Sexual tension like crazy, and as much as I wanted to I didn’t want to sleep with my roommate. Twice we woke up in each others beds after a night of drinking but nothing ever happened. But there was always that tension. I always felt like I had control in that situation (not in a manipulative way or anything I just had the upper hand.)

My second girlfirend was a Scorpio, I didn’t know anything about astrology I wish I did I probably would have handled things better. at the time but I was kind of a dick to her because she was so submissive to me and I was young and dumb. I completely had control of that relationship and I was one of her firsts and I took it for granted - stupid immature guy stuff. We’re friends now but it took a long time to get passed the relationship hurt. As far as revenge there, just a couple of really mean texts on her part, and when I was trying to make things right she’d ageee to meet up and never show up.

There’s a couple more but this post is really long already lol.

There have been times when I’ve put myself out there first and gotten rejected or my feelings weren’t reciprocated. I don’t like using black and white yes/no answers to this because it really depends on a ton of other variables. And I’m a big “vibes” person, human communication is 70% non verbal so the words that are or are not being said mean just as much if not more to me.

Idk if embarrassed is the right word. When I like someone I can be pretty direct. If I find you attractive and I’m getting a good vibe I’ll say something. It can be a very playful manner a heavy serious manner or anything in between, it really depends on the vibe I’m picking up on from you.

There was one girl a couple years back who just did not want anything to do with me lol. Like idk what aspects or what chemistry was off but she was not feeling it. I don’t even think it was a “fuckboy” thing 😒 I hate that term and I’ve been accused of being one but I’m not, it’s a very amusingly misunderstood thing for me. Anyway, yea with this girl I felt embarrassed because we’d talk and hang out and it seemed fine but for some reason she was not into it I have no clue why. If I remember correctly she was Aries sun, Pisces moon, something something aqua Venus. My age so Saturn Jupiter Pluto and all them planets were he same as mine.

I only become standoffish if I feel like I completely misread something. That’s when I do get embarrassed. So I might take a step back and observe for a little bit and I’ll go back to some testing. But other times a girl can reject me and I just laugh it off an play it off and it’s not a big deal. Like I said there’s so many variables to it and I don’t place as much importance on the astrology aspect as some others may so I may not Be the best to ask. I think astrology is and extremely useful tool to suggest what people are capable of but it doesn’t take into consideration environment, upbringing, free will. An example would be that Scorpio Venus men (me) like the dark femme fatale types, for me that’s just not true at all. Or some people might write off someone with a Gemini Venus or something, I would give that persona just as much a chance as someone with my personal favorite Venus. But I think experience and maturity plays a role in this as well.



I feel like I’m just ranting at this point lol hopefully I’m making sense and answering the root of your questions 😌

It's simple, just stay silent and do not talk to him ... this is the root of the mental games of Scorpio.

When there is silence, you disconcert the other person, he do not know what you think, what you feel, how are you doing ... this generates intrigue and confusion in the other person ..

Eventually scorpio is silent and hides..

the rest of the people call this, mental games ..

My progress chart is scary lol

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Posted by LostinmyMind11

Tell me what kind of mind games you play or have played on a significant other?

What about power struggles...like what have you done to get the upper hand when you feel like you were "losing" it?

People that have dealt with them...tell me your stories...

Haha. I knew this question would attract all the "not me" Scorpios haha.

Don't believe them. They're lying.

To be honest I never used to be aware that I was playing mind games until an ex told me to stop with the mind-f*ckery. When it comes to the type of mind-games. It was simple. I would try to control them. All the while making them feel as though it were THEY taking the decisions.

Very sly evil stuff really. Maybe that's just me, but yeah, I was an evil one. Maybe I still am. I dunno. I don't feel like I need to do that anymore. Plus my bfs are too smart now. Always one step ahead of me. Which I like.



Sex is the way I take back the upper hand. Not necessarily sex per se but sexual energy or sex lol.

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I knew it would too and only a couple gave their answers. Not a lot of people want to admit to their shadow side or they stop doing these things as the got older and forgot how they used to be. I get it though.