Scorpios are wimps

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Well, I can see why Aries would think that scropios are wimps -We don't run from confrontation, they do (which is not a bad thing on thier part, as anger is not alwasy an answer)
But what I do hate is that the strike from behind, unlike us. I dont think that they are wimps, though. I know a male and a female scorpio - BALLSY VERY BALLSY
There are different kinds of strength and all the signs display it differently. I think a provoked a scorp would be more than willing to strike back full-frontal. In fact, I've seen it. They tend to do this with words more than physically, though. I think that's the more lethal way, too. Words can still affect someone long after a black eye has healed.
all the scorpios i know are far from "whimps" altho i have never pushed one (that i know of) so it really all comes down to your definition of a "whimp"..
If anyone has not realised just yet, Red_aries has started this topic in response to Scorpio_risings topic in the earlier threads...provocation...
Aries shoot with caution or thought...scorpio has this covered..
Reckless = stupid
Whereas slow and steady wins the race
with = without
But scorps have no interest in warfare for its own sake, they are only interested in power. If the opponent is not interested in outcomes, then that makes it all the more easy for scorp to win what he/she desires.
MM could wring any of you inside out.
LOL @ SW...
Aries its alright..if you wanna win you go ahead...Scorpios are always about the win, not the taking part...and as SS correctly identified...power..its all about power..in whichever form..any idiot can do warfare..
lol .. the intent of this thread is funny as hell.

Why would someone have to prove to another that they are capable of securing victory in a fight?
Ok, so suppose it was agreed that Aries could win?
Then what?
Do your balls grow bigger or summat?
And IF they do .. who the hell cares? What does this do for you exactly?
Does it allow you to piss further?
Who would win a battle between Scorp and Aries, the Aries would. However, a lot depends on how important it is to the Scorp. The truth of the matter is that Scorps don't fight for the hell of it. We are pretty intense and it takes a lot out of us because we know that the war will not end until we say it's over and that's it. We have very long memories and we will keep stinging the Aries every chance we get until we tire of it. Which is why people "fear" (for lack of a better word)us. If you're going to make an enemy of a Scorp then you have one for life. Everytime we see you, we are going to strike. It's never over, that's why I say that it's important to know how important it is to the Scorp. If it's nothing we'll brush you off, you won't even be on our radar. You're insignificant, so if you strike a Scorp and they don't do anything chances are they didn't even feel it. Remember we're manipulative and after power so everything we do has to benefit us in some way. If we can benefit nothing from you, no one can ignore you better than us. No one.
That's why I say it all depends on how important the issue is to the Scorp. Aries will go to battle over pretty much anything without thought for the consequence or a plan. If we are going to use war analogies, it's like this, because Scorps don't initiate battles it's obvious that the Aries would be the person causing the problems. What the Scorp will do is peep out the Aries moves and see where the Aries is coming from and what kind of fire power they're working with. All the while the Aries is thinking that they're "winning" because they have made a few strikes with seemingly no response from the Scorp. Meanwhile, if the Scorp decides that this battle is something that he/she wants to defend itself against then the Aries would fall. Simply because the Aries would have no idea what it's up against and the Scorp now know all their moves. They've been running around huffing and puffing and just when they thought it's over it's really just begun for the Scorp. Again, once the Scorp is engaged in the battle it's not over until WE say it is. And that could be years. Aries doesn't have the stamina for a battle with a Scorp. So, the bottom line is this, it you're talking about a one time "battle" the Aries will win. However, if it turns into an all out war then the Aries doesn't stand a chance against us. It will be begging for the mercy of the Scorp when it's all said and done.
Yes, basically what sexy scorp is saying.. we do harbour grudges for years and years. The secretive part is that you most likely will NEVER know about it. We can put on a mask of 'its iver' but it really is not. Any oppurtunity that arises in the future - we will attack (directly or indirectly).
Dont forget that our Scorpio powers are of the hidden variety. We have extreme strength and resilience within. This may not show in a one off face to face fight with someone (aries or other wise).
We are strong people and we never EVER give up and allow others to conquer us. Aries may win the battle - but in the long run, it is us Scorpios that will win the war.
The keywords about Scorpio is POWER and HIDDEN (secretive).
''If it's nothing we'll brush you off, you won't even be on our radar. You're insignificant, so if you strike a Scorp and they don't do anything chances are they didn't even feel it.''
Very true SexyScorp!
U have been loaned the planet of courage, U being like younger sibling. So go out, show it off to your friends, but don't forget who the real owner is Winking
This thread is kind of cute. Allow me provide some famous Scorpio insight.
Only stronger people would freely allow criticism of themselves on their own territory no doubt. Only wimps ban these type of topics as soon as they pissed or hurt.
It's difficult to stereotype all Aries and all Scorpios in a general sense. I'm sure the toughest of the Aries could beat down the weakest of Scorpios, like notso for example.
"Only stronger people would freely allow criticism of themselves on their own territory no doubt. Only wimps ban these type of topics as soon as they pissed or hurt"
SCORE! Thanks for playin', Rams. Winking
"Yes, basically what sexy scorp is saying.. we do harbour grudges for years and years. The secretive part is that you most likely will NEVER know about it. We can put on a mask of 'its iver' but it really is not. Any oppurtunity that arises in the future - we will attack (directly or indirectly)."

My concern here is not who will "win" or who is more "powerful" - (truly, there is no such thing unless one chooses for there to be) but who will remain the healthiest. When one "harbours" grudges or any emotions for a long period of time, this will eat away at the body causing many health issues including ..... cancer. For one to be truly healthy enjoying their moments here, it is wise to deal straight away with any conflicts and then, move on.
We either win or lose with ourself - it never has to do with the other person.
His mom has more of an ability to see both sides of any situation. To maintain balance, she probably lets him THINK he's boss. So she's really the one in control.
LOL, Irish Libra that works on every man.
I was just going to say that, SS. lol TRUTH!
""Well, I can see why Aries would think that scropios are wimps -We don't run from confrontation, they do (which is not a bad thing on thier part, as anger is not alwasy an answer""

You've somehow been misinformed. lol

Scorps don't waste their energy on the weak. We have big hearts, and if it is sensed that you can easily be defeated, then we're willing to grant mercy to your soul. So long as you don't get too big for your britches. Then you must be put in your place.
""If anyone has not realised just yet, Red_aries has started this topic in response to Scorpio_risings topic in the earlier threads...provocation...""

I figured.

Yo, twin! What's really good? I'm fab. smile
LOL @ EG...I soooooo wanted that to happen..but alas couldn't hold back..lol
Back to the initial thread.
Scorp men: More confrontational head on... Would rather use words initially before getting physical. Uses mind over physical. Aries, hot headed physical first, discussion later.
Scorp women: Definitely words that cut deeper than any blow. Physical is a last resort as most can't recover from the verbal attack. Aries girls, lots of air, and temper tantrums initially, but back down when verbally warned by a scorp girl.
Trust and believe I know about the scorp girl/aries girl confrontation. I had to check one once who kept up the verbal bs. I had to take action and her career was almost ended.
Scorps get you deep, no need to use our hands or blow hot air, we perfer alternative and affective action.
"Scorps get you deep, no need to use our hands or blow hot air, we perfer alternative and affective action."
QS- I suppose you or anyone is able to get someone "deep" ....however, this can only happen if the other person allows for this to happen. I cannot say that I have had any altercations with a scorp woman but if I did, I would not pay a bit of attention...let them say what they need to say and I'd just scoodle on along.
***QS- I suppose you or anyone is able to get someone "deep" ....however, this can only happen if the other person allows for this to happen. I cannot say that I have had any altercations with a scorp woman but if I did, I would not pay a bit of attention...let them say what they need to say and I'd just scoodle on along.***
I guess I should be more specific. The Aries started the petty crap. Scorps don't start things and we would have to be quite pushed to be affected. She blew a lot of smoke and it became suffocating. So, I just put an end to it in one short moment, and moved on. Simple. Some things are beyond someones control. Meaning I didn't blow a bunch of smoke and back and forth with her, I used another tactic that would simply show her, if she kept messing with me, things like her career could end. Affectiveness. Trust me it was bad for me to go that route. She never uttered a word to me again. Job complete.

"Scorp men: More confrontational head on... Would rather use words initially before getting physical. Uses mind over physical. Aries, hot headed physical first, discussion later."
Very insightful, QS. Hurting people mentally and emotionally is far more effective, and one doesn't have to risk physical harm.
That said, I never remember being called feminine when dishing out beatdowns. Those include the occasional beatdowns that I lost as well.
"Very insightful, QS. Hurting people mentally and emotionally is far more effective, and one doesn't have to risk physical harm."
So...if I understand correctly by your above quote... s_r, you choose in dealing with others by emotionally and mentally abusing them?
Usually when one uses these type of methods...they themselves are, have been emotionally abused either by others or themselves.
"So...if I understand correctly by your above quote... s_r, you choose in dealing with others by emotionally and mentally abusing them?"
I don't enjoy abusing anybody, nor do I make a habit of it.
When someone deserves it, I'll start to press them until they get the message. If they still don't get it, I'll usually just avoid them.
But if I am in that position where I have no choice but to destroy, I'll do it. And I usually feel bad about it later.
NO one deserves to be abused.
...and yes, you do have choices - destroy or walk away.
"I dunno...I think Aries get a little sand in their vagina at times too....."

What the hell??
haha

Freebird was offended. lol
The word POWER has different meaning for each of the 12 different signs. Which is why no one sign is the strongest in the zodiac and it would be foolish to say so:
Aries views power as strength, bravery, boldness they excersizes it brashly and blatantly a strike head on and they feel power. Ofcourse they dont worry about the retaliation or what the other is thinking which is why Aries sees no power in the ways of more quiet, and introverted signs such as scorpio or cancer.

Taurus sees power as the amount it possesses which is why it holds on tightly onto its belongings be it things or people. A Taurus does not see the need to instantly strike back to feel power they just dont let any outside party make a change in their ways. Therefore Taurus is powerful.
Gemini knows the true value of power. To them power comes from knowledge and communication. Unlike a hurt scorpio or cancer or taurus they wont cut out their enemy from their lives ignoring them, not talking to them, or plotting against them. They deal with their opposition by taking interest in them learning things they dont know about them this way they gain power as well as an upperhand against their enemy.
Cancer feel power through security. In any conflict a cancer will always run to defend their boundaries, that is the boundaries of their property be it people or things. They guard their lives such that the offense can never break past the barrier cancer surrounds itself with. A cancer whose safe and secure has power.
Leos are different their power comes from the outside. The greater their army the more powerful they are. In case of any conflict the Leo collects power through flamboyance and grandeur. Making the proportions of their life existance so huge that the opposition feels too small to oppose.
Virgos sense of power comes from perfection and somewhat control. A virgo goes through life swiftly trying to be as perfect as possible in order to have an advantage in any minor skirmishes or any large wars life chucks at them. They gain power through their perfections and by acting on other people's imperfections. Virgo is the on sign that uses offense as a defense.
Libran concept of power is embedded in balance. A libra knows the extremes but unlike scorpio does not live in them. It resides in the middleground. Librans can thus fight under any conditions. Since it knows what its like to be smoldering hot as well as incy cold.

For scorpios power comes from control and sometimes from retaliation. A scorpio is able to face challenges because they have control over all aspects of their life. They what's going on and use power by not letting its opposition know what's going on. Hence the secrets. Scorpio's sense of power in a battle comes from knowing something its foe does not.
Sagittarian power comes from taking risk. While gemini is curious yet alert. A sagittarian risks rushing in. They are strong because they dont care. Their concept of power manifests itself by being at comfort with the unknown rather than being wary of it like cancers, virgos, taureans, and leos are. They express free energy in any conflict.
Power in Capricorns book comes from subtlety. Manipulating matters in ways that they are utterly nonexistent without them are ways Caps exert force and attain power. In a war they are never blatant like the Aries but work in ways the opposition finds itself unable to handle the situation without the Cap doing something about. They are like the secretary who leaves the boss and company in ruins once they quit.
Power for Aquarians lies in their eccentricity. Doing things nobody else does means power to them. They never give the opposition a chance to rival them because they dont understand what the Aquarian is doing. Aquarians in a conflict put themselves in a position where it is impossible form the enemy to fight them. Infact Aquarians probably never consider a fight to be fight because they know the other party is just on the same wavelength.
Finally Piscean power comes from illusion and elusiveness. They just like the fish. They swiftly swim away from any power struggle and let the opposition do the fighting. Once the oppositions feels they have won. The Piscean comes back and surprises. Their ability to not be caught leaves them unharmed in conflicts. They excercize power by playing catch me if you can.

Corrections!
Gemini knows the true value of power. To them power comes from knowledge and communication. Unlike a hurt scorpio or cancer or taurus they wont cut out their enemy from their lives ignoring them, not talking to them, or plotting against them. They deal with their opposition by taking interest in them, learning things they dont know about them. this way they gain power as well as an upperhand against their enemy.
Virgos sense of power comes from perfection and somewhat control. A virgo goes through life swiftly trying to be as perfect as possible in order to have an advantage in any minor skirmishes or any large wars life chucks at them. They gain power through their perfections and by acting on other people's imperfections. Virgo is the one sign that uses offense as a defense.
Libran concept of power is embedded in balance. A libra knows the extremes but unlike scorpio does not live in them. It resides in the middleground. Librans can thus fight under any conditions. Since it knows what its like to be smoldering hot as well as icy cold.
For scorpios power comes from control and sometimes from retaliation. A scorpio is able to face challenges because they have control over all aspects of their life. They know what's going on and use power by not letting its opposition know what's going on. Hence the secrets. Scorpio's sense of power in a battle comes from knowing something its foe does not.
Power in Capricorns book comes from subtlety. Manipulating matters in ways that they are utterly nonexistent without them. These are ways Caps exert force and attain power. In a war they are never blatant like the Aries but work in ways the opposition finds itself unable to handle the situation without the Cap doing something about. They are like the secretary who leaves the boss and company in ruins once they quit.
Power for Aquarians lies in their eccentricity. Doing things nobody else does means power to them. They never give the opposition a chance to rival them because they dont understand what the Aquarian is doing. Aquarians in a conflict put themselves in a position where it is impossible form the enemy to fight them. Infact Aquarians probably never consider a fight to be a fight because they know the other party is just not on the same wavelength as them.



i love how the battle between Aries and Scorps lives on. Either way there is no true victor, it all depends on the fight at hand and what you are representing in the debate. I love scorps, though i believe their need to attack through emotion is far crueler thing then anything i've experienced. I once got into a critical fight with a libra / scorp (oct 22, heard to be very powerful cusp day)... lets just say he tried to mentally rape me.. or at least that's the feeling i'd figure a person who was raped would feel.
To say the least I did not bad down, i did not show fear and i brutally attacked him the same way he had attacked me. After i had said my words he was speechless... i left afterwards since there was obviously nothing more to say, but honestly i felt like i wanted to die. i had never been so pressed against a wall in my life! but with my Aries quick pride and my taurus stubborn nature i didnt back down. sorry but i rather die then let my pride be shattered, scorps may seem to be the most powerful to some, but it can be beaten. i don't think its either or is better, just depends on the person.
I like to think I am a whimp, turns out I am not. My lust for perfection always got me tuning up the heat. For all the things I did wrong, and all the relationships I ruined, you think, hey maybe he would devote his life to invent a magical time machine. Thing is, us scorps, whimps, don't see that fit.
Personally, you can't say who would win a battle between any sign is you are referring to physical strenghts. Anyone can be physically strong but you need more than physical strenght to win a war. This thread has turned into the age old misconception about Scorps with the "verbally abusing" people. Has anyone noticed (which as been said multiple times in this thread) that Scorps don't initiate battles. To criticize the way we respond to a threat is ridiculous. Simply put, don't start none won't be none. I think Queen Scorps post is the perfect example of how we tend to operate. The Aries girl attacked her instead of rushing to respond (which is typical of Aries) she waited. When she was ready to strike the Aries girl didn't know what hit her. This has nothing to do with power or control, this is about how a person responds to threats. If you are a bully who didn't know any better a Scorp would seem like an easy target. Why because we're the first to walk away from a confrontation (a fact that seems to be missed by all). We have nothing to prove to anyone and getting into a confrontation is bothersome. However, keep doing it then we strike, simple. No we don't have high blood pressure because we can't get over what you did to us. Once we have repaid the favor in kind, it's usually forgotten about. At least until we see you again. If we're bored then you get stung again and this can go on forever. That's why Scorps have this reputation, not because we're evil tyrants, hardly. It's because once you really piss us off, you've just created a bad situation for yourself that will last for God knows how long. While these are not honorable traits, we can be vindictive, manipulative and unforgiving. But you should've thought about this before you started the butter. So in that respect you absolutely deserve whatever you get.
I spelled Strength wrong in my post. My bad.
''Why because we're the first to walk away from a confrontation (a fact that seems to be missed by all). We have nothing to prove to anyone and getting into a confrontation is bothersome. However, keep doing it then we strike, simple.''
I agree with this. We dont go out of our way to create fights for the sake of it. If someone does something to me (unintentionally) I will forgive and just trottle as it was an accident. But if I have an inkling that someone is out to get me (and trust me, we do pick up on this) thats when the games start. YOU started it and therefore YOU must pay.
We are in it for the long haul so be extra careful when picking fights with a Scorpion.
Amongst 'Friends'?
Anyone who steps on me is not a friend but a foe.
However, I can forgive if it is unintentional.
''But that's the beauty of it,by using the term 'friend', you can prolong the pain a while longer,not for any reasons of megalomania, but because one can ''
You mean ''Keep your Friends close and Your enemies Closer''?

''.....If someone has betrayed me that much,then they will pretty much *always* be there for my amusement afterwards....''
This is what I meant when I said ''Thats when the games start'' I can PLAY games forever once someone has crossed me (too many times).
Always grandstanding.
:: rolls fingers through SunLeo's gorgeous maine ::
Don't worry, Leo. You're the best and strongest and most awesome-toastastic sign in the zodiac. No one can overpower you.
***So...if I understand correctly by your above quote... s_r, you choose in dealing with others by emotionally and mentally abusing them? ***
NO freebird, it means we don't have to sweat to cause the affect we chose. Lay mans terms.
We would rather sting you with words than physical fighting... Get it?
Freebird seems to think that most scorps use the stinger carelessly.
Whether it's always possible to walk away is subjective. I don't think it's always possible to cave in to others because that's not who I am. Some people do suck and commit horrible acts that deserve retribution. Giving it to them is part of the karma they deserve, for if you didn't do it, who would?
That's just how I feel.
***stop trying to sound tough over the internet. you live a large part of your life on the internet i bet and getting into arguments or using people's personal info with the intention to blackmail isn't call tough...it's called coward. you're not powerful..how tall did you say you were? 5'0"? the rare times that you do live in the real world, you're just some quiet little insignificant girl with her head down minding her own business...more reluctant to speak up more than anything..quite the opposite image u have portrayed so far online.. that is the sad reality for people like you who think they're superman/superwoman on the internet..***
Ahhh, the boastful Leo is it??? Sweety, speak of what you know. Not what you wish to think... I am very popular, successful and a role model in my community, therefore sharing my experiences here is an extension of that. You can check out the libran board to find how valuable others have taken my advice and honesty there (as far as relationships go, librans were the most I was involved with, including marriage).
Now sweety, if you are having a bad day, or feeling a little insecure or intimidated, it would probably be better to focus your energy on something positive or go see a therapist.
Again, nothing manipulative was done on my part to the crazy Aries girl. I just don't have time for threats and a bunch of BS especially as nasty comments that relate to my family (child) so ya see, scorps are very protective parents. She is only lucky it didn't go further.
BTW, I am 5"4 and trust big things come in this little package. Cheers SuninLeo. Sorry I am not a reflection of you - the description you gave.
No, insecurities sweety. We all know Scorps are the most secure and confident. Honestly I was generally speaking as you were, and I just used myself for example. Not personal, just facts.
BYW, this is the scorp board, not the leo board. I think I belong. LOL!!!
I have a headache from reading all this
Ahhh SunInLeo is the perfect example. First I want to thank you for your post, very funny. Personally, I think it's clear you are projecting your own insecurities on the Scorp board, I'm not sure why but that doesn't concern me, us Scorps are used to haters. It kind of comes with the territory. It reminds me of a joke by Katt Williams (I'm paraphrasing) "No one should be concerned with people hating on them, it means you're doing something right. Your only concern should be how to get more people to hate on you". While I'm sure I butchered the joke I think you can get the point.
SunInLeo, if you disagree with what WE Scorps have said about ourselves you're definitely welcomed to your opinion. However, since it's clear from your post that you may be suffering from low self esteem (most people who grandstand often do), maybe you can find some help on the Leo board.
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