understanding my Leo sun/Scorp moon beau

Hello all!

I have been subtly flirting with this leo guy for about 4 months now and we had been making plans to go out for awhile but had been having trouble because of our schedules (he's a leo sun I'm a capricorn sun, both busy overachievers) it actually took 4 months to set a date. Lol. Anyway we finally went out last night and I have to say it was one of the best first dates every, there was some real chemistry going on there and I am not the type of person to "feel" chemistry from most people.
He's a scorpio moon w/ a Venus in virgo and a mars in cancer and I'm a capricorn moon w/ a Venus in aqua and mars in scorpio. Doesn't seem like such a hot match to me at first glance. He seems very judge mental and critical of others esp women, and I challenge everything he says, which I am sure doesn't compliment his leo sun. Both of us like to be in charge. But I really enjoyed his company and I am extremely sexually attracted to him and I'm pretty he feels the same. The only explanation that I can come up w/ for this is the scorpio influence in both of our charts.
after he dropped me off he called two hours later and asked me if I wanted to go work out (at 12:00 am), some ppl wouldn't find this behavior attractive, and if it were anyone else I would have declined.

soooo on sat, after not speaking since our date, he txt's me and tells me that he wants to see me, to which I replied "OK". I assumed he would call or text when he wanted to hang out. This was early in the day. Nightfall came, and I began to think he changed his mind abt hanging, and I honestly wasn't too mad b/c I was out w/ friends. However txt me around 10pm asking what I was doing.
Honestly I was a bit annoyed by the fact that he texted me at such a late time so I decided not to reply (I was home by this time). An hour went by and he sent me a message saying "I guess ur busy or sleep, goodnight." I still didn't answer. I felt like if seeing me was really a concern for him he would have contacted me at a decent time.
Next morning, I sent him a txt telling him that I was n the bed and I missed his txt. I also wished him good luck on a particular event he had coming up. No reply.
Naturally I refuse to call or text him again, because I kno he got my txt. And I pretty sure he is just being an ******* . So ill just be a c**kiemonster back. I don't even understand why he's even so pissy. Maybe I'm being a bit cold, but I feel like he runs hot and cold w/ me anyways.

Contd- Honestly im trying to watch myself with the way that i react to this dude's actions because of my own Scorpio Placement. Dude tries to play like he's so hard but i kno he's not as tough as he wants me to believe, and im okay with that. but i think he keeps trying to take extraordinary measures to piss me off and i have Scorpio in MY MARS aka the planet of aggression. Im mean beyond words when pissed or angry, and i REALLY dont want him to see this side of me. everytime he ignores me or tries one of his "Scorpio Moon" tactics, i can only think to myself. You're a Cancer Mars, I'm a Scorpio Moon do you really wanna go there. I would eat him up, spit him out, and make him weary of a woman for the rest of his life. Im not scared of him, im not begging for his attention, i want to know how to explain to him that there is no need for games without hurting his ego.

he is in no way intimated by you. let the games begin.

he is fixed in his ego and in his emotions. leo and scorpio are fixed signs. unchangeable.

Naturally I refuse to call or text him again, because I kno he got my txt. And I pretty sure he is just being an ******* . So ill just be a c**kiemonster back. I don't even understand why he's even so pissy. Maybe I'm being a bit cold, but I feel like he runs hot and cold w/ me anyways.

*tit for tat already. why not take this opportunity to swtich your way of thinking? love is stronger than hate.

@DMV if I thought the man was intimidated by me, I wouldn't have given him the time of day. I don't do weak men. Period.

@quiet- thanks urs is HAWT too lol. Okay, I think its different because I wasn't trying to play a game by not answering. Like I said, I was never mad abt him not making me a priority, because I was with my girls (and was actually trying to come up with a way to get out of the date), I was just in the bed by that time, and I knew he wouldn't see me that night so I didn't need to text him back. Maybe I'm not being clear abt wat he is doing: after this he has been ignoring my text, or text back days later. Of course I confronted him on this by saying, "I feel like everytime I txt u I'm talking to myself because of your apparent inability to text back. So when ur schedule lightens up find me."
He texted back-was working then went to the gym hun
Me-thats fine, I'm not trippin on you, I just don't like to feel as though I'm having a one-sided convo w/ anyone, so when ur schedule clears hit me
All of a sudden he wanted to have a convo, and wants to know what I'm doing tomorrow.
He tries to make it seem like its all in my head, but I kno he was ignoring me because he ALWAYS responds quickly, in fact he hates that I slow text.
Thing is on our date he bragged about how nonchalant he was and how it was so hard to hurt his feelings because he doesn't really care abt anything, but I know this isn't the case. but I can't tolerate these games because I don't play fair when pissed. My last relationship w/ someone who had scorp in their chart was nearly violent we butted heads so much. I'm not trying to have that again.
I want him to stop trying to be tough and just be himself, I'm a take me as I am kind of girl, I always have been. And I have no patience for BS, because once u piss me off its hard for me to come around

@elle, everyone who knows us both has said the same thing. My friend said she understands the obvious attraction but she doesn't know if both our ego's can fit into the relationship. Don't forget I'm a leo moon lol

@DMV correction there may be some intimidation on his part but not for the reasons u may think. I moved to this town from the city, so I stick out like a sore thumb here and I promise I'm not a conceited person (maybe a little) but just like he has a ton of girls always trying to get his attention, I have a lot of guys vying for mine and he is very aware of this. He's a very nice looking guy, and I think he's used to a lot of women feeling "grateful" to be w/ him. I see him as my equal, we look good together but I still look good alone. He know I feel this way because I've said it, and I think he doesn't really kno how to take me.
If that sounded conceited it wasn't meant to. Lol

Just tell him that you are not into games, BUT you have to be honest and 100% upfront yourself. You lied to him in one of your texts saying you were in bed and missed his text. Just tell him that you didn't answer because of the time he textd. Be honest and you will hopefully get it in return, plus he may like that you will say it how you mean it and you are not sweatin him.

Leos need their egos bruised from time to time LoL.

Posted by exoskeleton
this relationship is going straight to hell.

let the choir say amen

Posted by SheDevil77
@DMV correction there may be some intimidation on his part but not for the reasons u may think. I moved to this town from the city, so I stick out like a sore thumb here and I promise I'm not a conceited person (maybe a little) but just like he has a ton of girls always trying to get his attention, I have a lot of guys vying for mine and he is very aware of this. He's a very nice looking guy, and I think he's used to a lot of women feeling "grateful" to be w/ him. I see him as my equal, we look good together but I still look good alone. He know I feel this way because I've said it, and I think he doesn't really kno how to take me.
If that sounded conceited it wasn't meant to. Lol

the thing is, he knows exactly how to take you. he sees right through you.

the scorpio moon gives him an edge. do you really see him as an equal? i dont think you sounded conceited. you sound like a confident woman. hes also a confident mam, so treat him as such instead of playing these games. find out more about yourselves as a couple beyond just looking good together.

Posted by ellessque
because she's a capricorn?

is she a cap sun or a cap moon?

Posted by SheDevil77
Contd- Honestly im trying to watch myself with the way that i react to this dude's actions because of my own Scorpio Placement. Dude tries to play like he's so hard but i kno he's not as tough as he wants me to believe, and im okay with that. but i think he keeps trying to take extraordinary measures to piss me off and i have Scorpio in MY MARS aka the planet of aggression. Im mean beyond words when pissed or angry, and i REALLY dont want him to see this side of me. everytime he ignores me or tries one of his "Scorpio Moon" tactics, i can only think to myself. You're a Cancer Mars, I'm a Scorpio Moon do you really wanna go there. I would eat him up, spit him out, and make him weary of a woman for the rest of his life. Im not scared of him, im not begging for his attention, i want to know how to explain to him that there is no need for games without hurting his ego.

is this how you handle all your men? lol

are you a scorpio moon or is he?

im confused on who is what..have you done a synastry chart?

Posted by exoskeleton
shedevil, dmv know what's up! 🙂

drop the ego. stop sizing him up/comparing him to yourself, etc. just be honest with him. and have some compassion, lol.

you say you don't want games or power struggers, but you're just adding to it.

yes, sizing him up is a good way to put it.

I'm a cap sun, leo moon, venus aqua, and mars scorp. I'd be a little offended at the crazy comment if I didn't think it was half true lol....

Okay. Ill try to turn down the ego, its a pride thing mostly, but ill see what I can do *shrugs*

Posted by SheDevil77
I'm a cap sun, leo moon, venus aqua, and mars scorp. I'd be a little offended at the crazy comment if I didn't think it was half true lol....

Okay. Ill try to turn down the ego, its a pride thing mostly, but ill see what I can do *shrugs*

Now that's honesty!

When you figure out how to turn down your ego then pass the knowlegde over here to me LoL. I've said before that the ego of a Capricorn woman rivals the ego of ANY man. It can be our worst enemy.

Good luck with Mr. Leo: -)

Yes, I often have power struggles in most of my relationships.
When we were out I kept laughing bcuz I felt like he was trying to be such a Man (and a gentleman of course) opening doors, pulling out chairs, etc and tho I appreciated it all, I'm the type of girl who has no problem opening my own doors. We kept reaching for the door at the same time all night, it was funny to me. I immediately knew there would be power struggles.
I'm pretty easy going w/ him most of the time, but when I feel like someone is trying to manipulate me or play mind games I get pissy and my stubborn side comes out.

Posted by SheDevil77
Yes, I often have power struggles in most of my relationships.
When we were out I kept laughing bcuz I felt like he was trying to be such a Man (and a gentleman of course) opening doors, pulling out chairs, etc and tho I appreciated it all, I'm the type of girl who has no problem opening my own doors. We kept reaching for the door at the same time all night, it was funny to me. I immediately knew there would be power struggles.
I'm pretty easy going w/ him most of the time, but when I feel like someone is trying to manipulate me or play mind games I get pissy and my stubborn side comes out.

i was one told by a man that you can tell if a girl has been single for a while or has problems in relationships when they go for the door before the man does. you immediately knew there would be power struggles, he immediately knew that you were one of "those" women who is going to make it hard for a man to be a man. i can talk to you this way because i used to do these things 2 until a man shared that valuable info with me. you can be the independent woman but find a medium in which he can play the man role.

let him be the man in the relationship. play your role. 🙂

hes not trying to dupe you or play games with you. just relax and unleash that awesome capricorn feminitity (sp?) show him some vulnearability. he would like that.

Posted by lnana04

Posted by SheDevil77
I'm a cap sun, leo moon, venus aqua, and mars scorp. I'd be a little offended at the crazy comment if I didn't think it was half true lol....

Okay. Ill try to turn down the ego, its a pride thing mostly, but ill see what I can do *shrugs*

Now that's honesty!

When you figure out how to turn down your ego then pass the knowlegde over here to me LoL. I've said before that the ego of a Capricorn woman rivals the ego of ANY man. It can be our worst enemy.

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no need to turn down the ego just direct it differently. with this whole women's movement alot of us women have forgotten how to be feminine.

@DMV don't get me wrong I'm a VERY feminine woman, but I have always been the type to reach for my own doors literally since I started dating around high school. Before I even knew what relationship problems were. I also sometimes like to pay on date, this is just part of my personality.
This is where I think we WILL prob have problems I'm a Venus aqua to the CORE, I don't believe in roles and traditions, I believe in two people being themselves in a relationship period. I have told him time and time again that I believe that the main reason I am single is because I don't like to be controlled, I like my space, and I don't like being responsible for someone else's feelings all the time. I have been very honest with him abt the type of woman I am (if there is a type. I can turn down my ego some if that's what's causing the friction in the relationship, but I probably will be reaching for the door till I'm an old woman.lol. I don't believe in gender roles in any way shape or form. Maybe this is why I've always went out with so many gem's. Seems like they are the only ones who can understand that part of me. Maybe I'm really a lesbian lol

His Venus is in virgo, and that kinda annoys me, because I've never really gotten along with virgos, their too critical and they think things should be a certain way all the time. When we were on our date, he kept trying to "direct" me subtly when he wanted me to do something. That's soooo annoying to me. I let people do what they want, I'm not going to tell u how to eat ur food, or tell u to speak to strangers or ish like that. I don't care abt what's "the right" thing to do, I care abt the person doing what they want to do. Even tho he's a Leo, I think his virgo Venus and cancer mars sucks the fun right out of him. Lol. I think he needs to LIVE a little.

Bottom line: I will prob always be the girl who opens my own doors, pull out my own chair, and put together my own shelves without ever thinking "let me let him be a man", because in my eyes all of that doesn't define who's the man and who's the woman. I like a man that is secure enough in himself to know that regardless of who gets the door, he has the wee-wee so he's the man. And if he needs to put his man foot down to make this clear he will without any hesitation.

@elle, u don't know the half of it. Lol I've made a few of them cry not on purpose, but I have a very strong personality. And a lot of the men I have dated have been very "strong" on the surface but they can't handle my personality they either try to change me or get there ego's so hurt that the relationship is OV. They usually end up with a girl who is passive and worships the ground they walk on *vomit*. Funny tho, they ALWAYS try to reconnect.

I'm not usually the first one to throw a jab, usually the guy is the first to say something "honest", which half of the time is really just something semi-rude and I usually hit them back with something just as honest, and they will mull over it for weeks or months. My mom and friends say that I can strip a man of his manhood in two seconds with my tongue. I say, and I apply this rule to everyone and everything, "don't dish out butter u can handle" point blank. I'm not a mean person at all, but a lot of men (at least in my case) have tried to change me, almost to the point where it felt like they were trying to break my spirit, that's not a man in my book, that's an insecure little boy. I like men who don't have to prove to me or anyone else that their the man, u can tell simply from they carry themselves. The unspoken truth.

i do agree that the venus in aquarius is a universal love and traditional roles are for the birds.