What happens when a Scorpio woman cannot have you

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How does a scorpio woman act that can't have what she wants. I know of scorpio that gets away with any and everything. She has a history of being able to gain her ex lovers interest again after doing them wrong. I'm a different type of cancer and have always seen through her bs. How would she act if I told her she cannot have me no matter what she says? Can scorpio woman hand rejection from a blunt cancer that she claims to love?
Posted by cancerwithfire
How does a scorpio woman act that can't have what she wants. I know of scorpio that gets away with any and everything. She has a history of being able to gain her ex lovers interest again after doing them wrong. I'm a different type of cancer and have always seen through her bs. How would she act if I told her she cannot have me no matter what she says? Can scorpio woman hand rejection from a blunt cancer that she claims to love?


Well, first of all the Scorpio female you describe here who goes after her exes, sounds like a creepy little grey lizard. Most Scorps never go back to an ex..when it's over it's over.
However to answer your question, if you are up for games...go for it. Sounds like she enjoys that kind of shit....and yes, confident, secure and independent Scorpio's females handle rejection quite well and will respect your wishes. Some others...not so much, and may fall into the category of the Scorp female you are talking about. Have fun with that...
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
...or maybe that smell is just bananaonionjuice.



Yea..You would know eh?




Stop derailing threads nut job.
Sad,depressed,suicidal...
Lol no she will get over you soon....but scorpio will never forgets cancer's love
Posted by Impulsv
How do u know her history who's she's done wrong n returned


Because I have dated her and did all kinds of things with her while she was with an ex for years. The ex knows about her wrong doing but she tells him lies to draw him back in. Knowing their history I know she dealing with him for the wrong reasons and using him for financial reasons. She tells me how much she loves and tried justifying things that she does. I also know she hides things and have seen things with my own eyes that she denies or avoids admitting to. I know pretty much everything about her
Posted by cancerwithfire
Because I have dated her and did all kinds of things with her while she was with an ex for years. The ex knows about her wrong doing but she tells him lies to draw him back in. Knowing their history I know she dealing with him for the wrong reasons and using him for financial reasons. She tells me how much she loves and tried justifying things that she does. I also know she hides things and have seen things with my own eyes that she denies or avoids admitting to. I know pretty much everything about her


She's a "user"...and you know that, so I guess I don't understand why you are worried about rejecting her when she shows up at your door? Should be pretty damn easy knowing she's a loser. Right?
Posted by LetltB
Posted by cancerwithfire
How does a scorpio woman act that can't have what she wants. I know of scorpio that gets away with any and everything. She has a history of being able to gain her ex lovers interest again after doing them wrong. I'm a different type of cancer and have always seen through her bs. How would she act if I told her she cannot have me no matter what she says? Can scorpio woman hand rejection from a blunt cancer that she claims to love?


Well, first of all the Scorpio female you describe here who goes after her exes, sounds like a creepy little grey lizard. Most Scorps never go back to an ex..when it's over it's over.
However to answer your question, if you are up for games...go for it. Sounds like she enjoys that kind of shit....and yes, confident, secure and independent Scorpio's females handle rejection quite well and will respect your wishes. Some others...not so much, and may fall into the category of the Scorp female you are talking about. Have fun with that...
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I kind of like that I have an inside track on her and laugh to myself that she thinks I don't see it. She says a lot of things but her actions don't match what she does. She has gone back and forth between myself and an ex for years despite him being a cheater and not satisfying her sexually (I seen messages between her and friends discussing how he cannot satisfy her and she gets herself off when he sleeps). Even before I came into the equation she had an off and on relationship with him. He comes from a rich family and I believe she is keeping running back in forth because she controls him. She has never been able to control me and I always let it been known. She admits her connection to is unlike she has ever felt but that means nothing to me. I have a strong will and believe my cancer intuiton and leo moon keeps me strong enough to handle her bs.
Also I think she is hanging around for the payday. Also, I am college grad with career and high salary, but unlike her ex, my mommy and daddy don't millions to leave me. Her ex is a cancer as well.
Well let me give you some inside Scorpio juice...call it a mirror that you can hold up to her.
Cut her off completely.......I mean completely. Whether you like it or not, she is controlling you too. How do I know this? "She has gone back and forth between myself and an ex for years" By allowing her to do this you are letting her know it's ok.
Once you stop that...you might see something you've never seen before. Respect.
Hopefully you can be strong..because it's comes down to your choice of being a door mat to this triangle she's playing in. Pull that mat out from under her feet.

Posted by LetltB
Posted by cancerwithfire
Because I have dated her and did all kinds of things with her while she was with an ex for years. The ex knows about her wrong doing but she tells him lies to draw him back in. Knowing their history I know she dealing with him for the wrong reasons and using him for financial reasons. She tells me how much she loves and tried justifying things that she does. I also know she hides things and have seen things with my own eyes that she denies or avoids admitting to. I know pretty much everything about her


She's a "user"...and you know that, so I guess I don't understand why you are worried about rejecting her when she shows up at your door? Should be pretty damn easy knowing she's a loser. Right?
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I do believe she is a loser. I actually helped her better herself with a career and such but I think she has mental issues. She also allows her family to give her input on things because she only gives them half the story on things. I say that's a sign of manipulation, ya think? LOL. I'm not worried about rejecting her but want to know how she will handle it. I want her to see that she cannot have me, because she has never been rejected by anyone before and needs to learn that she can't have her cake and eat it to. I want to know how she will react.
No he is not a millionaire he has regular job at a retail store barely making anything. He's the loser of the family but has rich parents. She prides herself on being able to control him. During a break up with me he intentionally impregnated her in effort to keep her away from me. Less than a year after the child was born they were split again and she was contacting me.
Since she is the controlling type, I think in this case...she will be persistent and stir up drama until you surrender. Be prepared for all the tricks she have up her sleeves.
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In my case, I can totally understand why someone would reject me
But I have ego problems...
I will probably think oh well, your loss, I will find someone even better - and wipe the person that rejected me completely from my memory.
Eh. Correction: I don't forget them but they will be permanently out of my life.
Posted by Impulsv
Did she tell u he impregnated purposely. That is laughable woman decides to get pregnant. There is the pill u know. She is in the family know through kid got what she accomplished in a sense
So now turning to u?


He's a very weakminded and immature cancer. He tried to impregnate her when he found out about us before she left him for me. He tried again after she dumped him years later in an act of desperation and said maybe they are meant to have another kid. She was not on birth control. I seen his messages stating those things.
Posted by cancerwithfire
I want to know how she will react.


In this order...assuming she's a grey lizard Scorp and very immature:
She's going to act like it does not bother her (key word "act")...she will initially ice you out completely. DO NOT..I REPEAT..DO NOT reach out to her at all. This is going to drive that immaturity insane.
Next, she's going to either text, call or show up. My guess is a nasty text/words..IGNORE COMPLETELY. If she calls...DON'T ANSWER. If she shows up DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR. (you sure you can handle this?)
Next, she's going to send a softer text, you know..in that language she knows you respond to. IGNORE COMPLETELY. She's testing you, and then she'll let you have it if you cave. So don't.
This may go on for some time..but then she'll attempt to ice you out again. (it's a test..)..DO NOTHING.
Unless and until she admits to you what she has done is wrong (called acknowledgement) and apologizes for it and says she is going to make changes, you DO NOTHING. Do not accept anything less than that. Then you have to remain strong and tell her actions need to be backed up by those words and nothing less. She either will...or she will not. Either way all of the above will give you the closure you need to know where you stand with her. I mean it though, if you cave even just a little bit..you will be right back where you are now. Think you can handle it?
Posted by Impulsv
Again she wanted to. Someone who doesn't want kids makes sure she's on protection. But yeah he is weak. But ok ur going to tell her u don't want anything are u still going to duck her. Cuz she'll make things horrible if she feels scorned. This triage has been any years can u get out?


Maybe so, I don't know. I know she has never been on birth control. I'm going to tell her about herself, call her out of things I know that she doesn't think I know, and tell her that I don't want her and that she can't have me no matter what. I've always stayed a step ahead of this scorpio.
One other thing....KEEP THE COMPETITION (the other Cancer) OUT OF YOUR MIND COMPLETELY. Do not try to analyze, or trouble shoot. You already know she's doing the same to him and he dangles his money to keep her around. If she's that shallow, she'll stick it out with him and it will blow up in a matter of time. (trust me on this)...so ..keep this about WHAT YOU WANT, and the fact that you need to know exactly where you stand with her, and her actually showing you where you stand.
You will get your answers...you just have to be strong.
Grey lizards are a huge pain in the ass. Once you knock that chip off their shoulder, though they can turn things around. If she was so happy with this other guy, she wouldn't be bouncing back and forth. You have to eliminate her options, and watch. Winking
I wish you much luck!
Posted by Impulsv
If she is so bad why are keeping company with her. Don't u think u deserve better. Ur a professional man n ur shit together. Seems like she got a hold on u but want to tell urself n her that she doesn't. But the fact u stay she knows what's up.


Was about to ask...if the OP sees through her bs why didn't he keep his distance from the bs.
Posted by LetltB
Posted by cancerwithfire
I want to know how she will react.


In this order...assuming she's a grey lizard Scorp and very immature:
She's going to act like it does not bother her (key word "act")...she will initially ice you out completely. DO NOT..I REPEAT..DO NOT reach out to her at all. This is going to drive that immaturity insane.
Next, she's going to either text, call or show up. My guess is a nasty text/words..IGNORE COMPLETELY. If she calls...DON'T ANSWER. If she shows up DON'T ANSWER THE DOOR. (you sure you can handle this?)
Next, she's going to send a softer text, you know..in that language she knows you respond to. IGNORE COMPLETELY. She's testing you, and then she'll let you have it if you cave. So don't.
This may go on for some time..but then she'll attempt to ice you out again. (it's a test..)..DO NOTHING.
Unless and until she admits to you what she has done is wrong (called acknowledgement) and apologizes for it and says she is going to make changes, you DO NOTHING. Do not accept anything less than that. Then you have to remain strong and tell her actions need to be backed up by those words and nothing less. She either will...or she will not. Either way all of the above will give you the closure you need to know where you stand with her. I mean it though, if you cave even just a little bit..you will be right back where you are now. Think you can handle it?

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AWESOME RESPONSE. I can handle it. She deserves to feel that way. She asked me be her boyfriend a few months ago and I denied her. We continued to have sex and such but I never budged.
Posted by earthyscorpio
Posted by Impulsv
If she is so bad why are keeping company with her. Don't u think u deserve better. Ur a professional man n ur shit together. Seems like she got a hold on u but want to tell urself n her that she doesn't. But the fact u stay she knows what's up.


Was about to ask...if the OP sees through her bs why didn't he keep his distance from the bs.
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Because he is weakminded and believes any fabricated story that she tells him. I've watched from the outside and seen her be able to manipulate him and another cancer guy before. They both believed her lies and then ended up heartbroken after she leaves them hanging to dry and comes back to me.
Posted by cancerwithfire
Posted by earthyscorpio
Posted by Impulsv
If she is so bad why are keeping company with her. Don't u think u deserve better. Ur a professional man n ur shit together. Seems like she got a hold on u but want to tell urself n her that she doesn't. But the fact u stay she knows what's up.


Was about to ask...if the OP sees through her bs why didn't he keep his distance from the bs.


Because he is weakminded and believes any fabricated story that she tells him. I've watched from the outside and seen her be able to manipulate him and another cancer guy before. They both believed her lies and then ended up heartbroken after she leaves them hanging to dry and comes back to me.
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Lol, I was asking why You (not the ex) are dealing with her if you can see through her bs. I don't think you should be involved with her in the first place...did you know she was full of bs in the first place?
NO SEX....everything gets cut off. Get yourself some ky buddy...the sex stops with everything else!
I'd like to point out that if she responds as earthyscorpio mentions due to ego, and says "your loss" you got your answer, she wasn't yours to begin with and you've saved yourself much wasted time & energy.
If she really loves you, she will put the ego on a shelf. Anything short of that, cut your losses, find a woman who doesn't need two men to complete her.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
the ego in this thread.
oh my.
smh.



What ego elle? Is this another attempt to derail yet another thread?
I can't stand cowards who come into a thread, toss shit cowardly then bolt or delete.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
Fuck off. just because my opinion is different than yours doesn't mean I'm derailing.
Stay in your lane.
This guy sounds like a real winner. I'm not going to sit here and encourage him to continue playing games with her.




Hey..Cancerwithfire: ^^^^CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF GREY LIZARD RIGHT THERE...^^^^
The examples I gave you of what to expect has pissed the above poster off because I've tipped you off to her own behavior. Expect that kind of reaction from your scorpio. IGNORE IT.
Commanding respect IS NOT PLAYING GAMES... None of what I suggested is a game. None of it.
Cancerwithfire, you will find out where you stand by commanding that respect while knocking the chip off her shoulder at the same time & simply letting her know...the bullshit stops here - ahem...INCLUDING THE SEX! (you have to STOP that completely) Winking
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
if she is as bad as you are portraying her...what does that say about your character and the fact you want to entertain any of this?
quite honestly, someone who behaves in the manner that you are......wouldn't get the time of day from me if I wore two watches.



Hence my advice to cut her off to gain/command that respect back. He's about to find out what a real grey lizard is and how easy it is to get one back in check should he heed the advice given. Winking
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
are you kidding me?
I'm pissed off?
LOL
....and you keep passing out your "scorpio juice" and "tipping" others off.
hilarious!
this man is a very bitter man. I'm surprised your third eye hasn't picked that up.
the ONLY thing he wants to do is hurt her. that's it.
are you really advocating that?



Cancerwithfire ^^^^^ exactly what I meant about angry pissed off type of texts you'll get. Just laugh it off.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
Fuck off. just because my opinion is different than yours doesn't mean I'm derailing.
Stay in your lane.
This guy sounds like a real winner. I'm not going to sit here and encourage him to continue playing games with her.
I believe he is the another user called bannanaonionjuice....the cancer stuck on his ex scorpio.


No I am not another user. That would be stupid to post and create another account.
cancerwithfire, are you bitter or are you in love with this Scorpio?
I can understand resentful, but that will dissipate if you command that respect. But do you love her?
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
are you kidding me?
I'm pissed off?
LOL
....and you keep passing out your "scorpio juice" and "tipping" others off.
hilarious!
this man is a very bitter man. I'm surprised your third eye hasn't picked that up.
the ONLY thing he wants to do is hurt her. that's it.
are you really advocating that?


Strawberry you're completely off... If I wanted to hurt her I would humiliate her or use things against her. That's not the case at all...
"laugh it off"= IGNORE AT ALL COSTS..it's simple.
You are letting this strawberry grey lizard manipulate you...practice ignoring, she's doing it on purpose.
Do you love this Scorpio woman? I'm not asking to describe, it's just a yes or no answer.
You can pm me cancerwithfire...
let's eliminate the nut job from the conversation.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I wish you'd practice ignoring.
*tosses pixie dust and makes a wish*



#elleshavinganothermeltdown
Posted by LetltB
I'd like to point out that if she responds as earthyscorpio mentions due to ego, and says "your loss" you got your answer, she wasn't yours to begin with and you've saved yourself much wasted time & energy.
If she really loves you, she will put the ego on a shelf. Anything short of that, cut your losses, find a woman who doesn't need two men to complete her.




psst hey elle..^^^tell me, how did I know that would draw you out?...So predictable. lmao
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
good luck with the PM!


thank you! smile
Posted by LetltB
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
good luck with the PM!


thank you! smile
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pm sent
strawberry you're very negative and totally wrong
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I'm negative? You are the one trying to humiliate this woman.
I have a feeling she is with someone new and you can't move on.
You feel rejected and are looking at ways to make her feel the same hurt that you feel.
You are seriously wasting your time.
Just.Let.Her.Go.


Funny, post after post by cancerwithfire, and I do not see one thread where he is humiliating the scorpio. However if everyone else can read what I am, all the posts pretty much in black and white explain how this scorpio is humiliating and being very selfish toward the poster.
go figure...
(not to mention, I already told him to LET.HER.GO).
Again...go figure...

Posted by LetltB
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I'm negative? You are the one trying to humiliate this woman.
I have a feeling she is with someone new and you can't move on.
You feel rejected and are looking at ways to make her feel the same hurt that you feel.
You are seriously wasting your time.
Just.Let.Her.Go.


Funny, post after post by cancerwithfire, and I do not see one thread where he is humiliating the scorpio. However if everyone else can read what I am, all the posts pretty much in black and white explain how this scorpio is humiliating and being very selfish toward the poster.
go figure...
(not to mention, I already told him to LET.HER.GO).
Again...go figure...


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LetitB knows the story now and Strawberry you are still wrong and negative ha!
Posted by Whatu
You sound like you are trying to get one up on her...seriously If a scorpio came on her talking the way you are we would give them shit for being a vindictive stinger.


Yup.
Posted by Whatu
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry
I'm negative? You are the one trying to humiliate this woman.
I have a feeling she is with someone new and you can't move on.
You feel rejected and are looking at ways to make her feel the same hurt that you feel.
You are seriously wasting your time.
Just.Let.Her.Go.


I feel it aswell, He's not spelling it out to us but the way he has written a few things here....OP sounds hurt and he wants revenge rather than being an adult and walking away.


Agreed:
Posted by cancerwithfire
Because I have dated her and did all kinds of things with her...


Posted by cancerwithfire
She deserves to feel that way.


Posted by cancerwithfire
I want to know how she will react.


Posted by cancerwithfire
I'm not worried about rejecting her but want to know how she will handle it. I want her to see that she cannot have me, because she has never been rejected by anyone before and needs to learn that she can't have her cake and eat it to.
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Umm, ^^^that would include you as well wouldn't it by the mere fact that you have let her run back to you multiple times. But that isn't the issue right?...
work it Ho ;D
Posted by cancerwithfire
She asked me be her boyfriend a few months ago and I denied her. We continued to have sex and such but I never budged.


I thought you already denied her request to be in a relationship with you, so I'm confused by what you're trying to present here.
I??m also confused as to why she needs to apologize to you since you were a willing participant always ???one step ahead??. So you knew the game and played along, so what is she apologizing for exactly? If anything, she should be apologizing to the ???weak minded?? Crab you are describing. She??s taking him for a ride, had his baby while sleeping with you and is still lying to him, no? After all you are aware of all of this, so she can??t be deceiving you now can she if you know ???everything about her?? and are "always one step ahead?? of her. How exactly did you find out about the information she shared with her girlfriends and the messages he disclosed to her?
Here you are, a hardworking man, educated, on the right track in your career and she leaves you multiple times to sleep with and have a child with a weak minded, immature Crab that can't satisfy her sexually, that gets his money handed to him. Hmph. Yeah, I guess she does "deserves to feel that way?? (which is what way exactly?) Rejected? Okay.
Posted by PhoenixRising
Posted by cancerwithfire
She asked me be her boyfriend a few months ago and I denied her. We continued to have sex and such but I never budged.


I thought you already denied her request to be in a relationship with you, so I'm confused by what you're trying to present here.
I??m also confused as to why she needs to apologize to you since you were a willing participant always ???one step ahead??. So you knew the game and played along, so what is she apologizing for exactly? If anything, she should be apologizing to the ???weak minded?? Crab you are describing. She??s taking him for a ride, had his baby while sleeping with you and is still lying to him, no? After all you are aware of all of this, so she can??t be deceiving you now can she if you know ???everything about her?? and are "always one step ahead?? of her. How exactly did you find out about the information she shared with her girlfriends and the messages he disclosed to her?
Here you are, a hardworking man, educated, on the right track in your career and she leaves you multiple times to sleep with and have a child with a weak minded, immature Crab that can't satisfy her sexually, that gets his money handed to him. Hmph. Yeah, I guess she does "deserves to feel that way?? (which is what way exactly?) Rejected? Okay.
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There is a lot more to this that hasn't been shared here, & you will remain confused...
Regardless, I stand by what he needs to do. First and foremost.....step away and let her figure things out. He has every right to reject her for his own self respect, stop allowing her to see him as a doormat, and she needs to start respecting that and herself as well. Until that happens, it will be a vicious circle. It's a really good thing to be a step ahead of ANYONE who chooses to be deceitful. Don't you think?
Jesus Christ! And I read over my post two times. Okay, let's try again:
Posted by LetltB

There is a lot more to this that hasn't been shared here, & you will remain confused...
Regardless, I stand by what he needs to do. First and foremost.....step away and let her figure things out. He has every right to reject her for his own self respect, stop allowing her to see him as a doormat, and she needs to start respecting that and herself as well. Until that happens, it will be a vicious circle. It's a really good thing to be a step ahead of ANYONE who chooses to be deceitful. Don't you think?



Of course. No where did I state that I disagreed with the advice he was given (minus the apology--I think he played a role here too). My issue is with what he is making it seem to be. I agree with you. Walk away to stop the game playing, but I do not believe this was simply about him wanting to walk away from the drama. You hit it on the head when you asked him if he loved her I think, but he wanted to make this about teaching her some sort of lesson for revenge vs trying to show her how he deserves to be treated so they can actually build something real if that is what he really wants. It's a game some Crabs and Scorps play. Don't you think?
I didn't repeat the sound advice he was already given because I'm not a parrot. It was addressed more than once.
As for my confusion, as a poster that has mastered sarcasm, I would think you could pick up on mine, No confusion here. I saw this for what it was from the OP and his replies. You are very good at zeroing in on people masking the truth, as am I.
Posted by PhoenixRising You hit it on the head when you asked him if he loved her I think, but he wanted to make this about teaching her some sort of lesson for revenge vs trying to show her how he deserves to be treated so they can actually build something real if that is what he really wants. It's a game some Crabs and Scorps play. Don't you think?

As for my confusion, as a poster that has mastered sarcasm, I would think you could pick up on mine, No confusion here. I saw this for what it was from the OP and his replies. You are very good at zeroing in on people masking the truth, as am I.


Very weird..Not once did I see him use the words revenge. Or trying to "one up her". The "lesson" you speak of and needs to be openly displayed here, FOR HIM is telling her, SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT WOMAN. Obviously, he's moving in the right direction to stop the nonsense and disrespect she is clearly displaying. He's not playing her undecisive game any more and wants the bullshit to stop. He's gone through great lengths to tell her what he wants and how deeply he feels for her. It has done nothing. If he cuts her off completely the message is if you can't make up your mind, I'M DONE. Is that a game? Or is it self respect?
I mean really how many posts here have we read from a female that asks "IS THIS A FWB".."IS HE A PLAYER"? First thing out of everyone's mouth is KICK HIM TO THE CURB. The responses this guy is getting is nothing short of double standard b.s..
He doesn't want to be a just a hump...he wants the whole package.
Regarding what you saw the op for what it was...hey, it happens to me too..you missed the boat on this one. Cancers hang on for dear life to those they love no matter how hard they get stepped on. My read on this, is the shell has been cracked after time from repeatedly being stepped on, and like any normal human being, you throw stones at a dog long enough, he's gonna bite back. He's not biting back..he loves her, but recognizes that it's starting to hurt...alot. Human nature.
Show me a Cancer who can walk away at the snap of a finger when they are deeply in love with someone and has a long history with that someone.
..almost impossible.




..almost.
Posted by LetltB

Very weird..Not once did I see him use the words revenge. Or trying to "one up her". The "lesson" you speak of and needs to be openly displayed here, FOR HIM is telling her, SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT WOMAN.


You??re right, he didn't use those words. The intention came across in the words he did use, as I highlighted. As Whatu stated, if this had been a Scorp she/he would have been labelled as a vindictive stinger because of the way this is being played out, not the reason why this is being played out. I understand the reason.
Posted by LetltB

...he's moving in the right direction to stop the nonsense and disrespect she is clearly displaying. He's not playing her undecisive game any more and wants the bullshit to stop. He's gone through great lengths to tell her what he wants and how deeply he feels for her. It has done nothing. If he cuts her off completely the message is if you can't make up your mind, I'M DONE. Is that a game? Or is it self respect?
I mean really how many posts here have we read from a female that asks "IS THIS A FWB".."IS HE A PLAYER"? First thing out of everyone's mouth is KICK HIM TO THE CURB. The responses this guy is getting is nothing short of double standard b.s...
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Again, not disagreeing with you, so I am not sure what double standard in my post you are referring to. Oddly, even though he has not clearly written that he's gone through great lengths to tell her what he wants and how deeply he feels for her, it was fairly evident in what he did write, which is why I highlighted that this was about being hurt/feeling rejected. I realize I write in a very sarcastic manner, so what I am trying to communicate is not often communicated well.
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