What most People DO NOT understand about Scorpios

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by krysrenee7 on Tuesday, February 26, 2008 and has 53 replies.
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Scorpios are very passionate beings. When they want something, they certaintly go for it. Everybody knows that Scorpios have the tendency to be very jealous, possessive, obsessive & secretive but in a Scorpio's mind, all of these traits are justified. When a Scorpio loves you & actually allows you access to their heart, it is essential that you do the right thing with it. Scorpios are the most jealous because when in love, they are the most loving. Scorpios are VERY competitive in anything they do, including love, which is where the possessive trait comes in. When they find something they like & want to keep, they dare anyone to try to take it from them, which is why they bring out their controlling sides. Most people see a controlling personality as a bad thing, but in a Scorpio's mind they are overly protective of you because they love you more than you'll ever know. They like to be in control, not because they think they are superior over you, but because being in control makes them feel SAFE. Scorpios love to be winners & hate to lose and this concept comes into play even in their relationships. They feel like as long as they have control they know they won't mess it up, but know that the only way for them to keep you is for them to be constantly reassured that you won't hurt or betray them. And sometimes for a Scorpio, the only way to get this assurance is by being protective, jealous & controlling. Scorpios hate it when others don't understand why they are the way they are. They see is as, I'm controlling & protective because I love you more than anything & because I don't want to lose you. And when their partner doesn't understand this side of them, they get aggravated & begin to harber feelings towards you as if you don't appreciate all they do for you. Scorpios normally feel like their mates don't fully appreciate them or don't fully understand them, which is why they keep alot of secrets. They live by the "What they don't know, can't hurt them" creed, which in their mind is a good thing because they see it as them trying to protect your feelings and heart. These flaws to the average person seem unmanageable & unacceptable, but Scorpios feel that these traits make them unique & strong partners, which is why they never give up or change for anybody. It all comes back to pride & not losing to anything, even to their own flaws.
Reminds me how juvenile I was ....or still am ?
lol ...
That was funny. Now, where's the real post?
I find this to be true mostly with scorpio males. Maybe some scorp women, but me. I am more of the Love means letting go and if the person is meant to be yours they will... Kind of girl. Ya know? No one can force anyone to do anything. So being controlling will seem to push people away. However, Loving with all we have seems to be true for the male and female scorp. Although we might not trust 100% . We can definitely love 150% . I don't know if other signs are able to love so deeply and unselfishly.
Several of my partners in relationships (mostly libras) have said, "I wish I had the passion to love so deeply." or "I have never known anyone who loves the way you do."
Not that we forget ourselves when we love. We just makes it a standing point that our partner knows and feels how much we love them. We seldom get the same in return. Don't get me wrong. I know all of my partners have loved me deeply (some still do) but not in the way I am able to love and it seems most scorps are able to love.
Don't get ignorant on me. There are tons of people who didn't know what I just posted about Scorpios. If what I posted is something you already know, then you could've read the post & kept it to yourself. But there are also lots of people (like 5 of my friends for example) who nothing absolutely nothing about Scorpios or even some of the traits they possess. What might not help you might help somebody else. If the post didn't help you, then keep it moving.
"There are tons of people who didn't know what I just posted about Scorpios. If what I posted is something you already know, then you could've read the post & kept it to yourself. But there are also lots of people (like 5 of my friends for example) who nothing absolutely nothing about Scorpios or even some of the traits they possess. What might not help you might help somebody else."

GF's twinner ...... the above is true, kry, but what you have to realize here is that we aren't "those people" out there who are not familiar with astrology. Though your intentions were in the right place, this is like talking to the choir.
We are on an astrology forum .. WE KNOW ALREADY .. to inform people who aren't familiar with astrology is where this would be beneficial.
It's equivelent to saying to your boyfriend after a year of fucking him .. "Oh by the way, I'm not a virgin"
There you go .. I hide my last post, though, you probably needed to hear it.

kry .. why don't you tell us about your own PERSONAL experiences with a Scorpio, and you'll probably get a better reception smile
Agreed FA.
""we all have really poor attention spans on the scorpio board.""

AHAHAHA! omg, i was just about to say that. Winking

posts like these, i read the first and last sentence only. lmao
Forgive her guys. She's new to the boarsd and she's apparently doing this for most signs. Reminds me of that gem chick...but much more aggressive in her postings.
This is going to sound condscending, and i totally don't mean it that way. but sometimes, GF makes me sad. i can't really explain why. i know you aren't spose to let the internet affect you, and it usually doesn't. but sometimes i find myself avoiding her posts b/c i'll get a little sad if i do.
Who is GF...is that the astrology info spammer/poster??
Why does it make you sad??
i can't really put my finger on it, M.

one of my clients makes me sad too. something about him. occasionally, when i watch him interacting, i suddenly become sad. i mean, the moments when he seems happy make me smile, but inside my heart drops.

this happen to you ever?
i so wish i could articulate it better. i suck at explaining myself. my virgo friend even told me. lol
I dont recall this happening with a poster. I observe others alot and sometimes they evoke a feeling in me...or maybe a project a feeling on them.
But when I read GF, she gives off a bubbly annoying vibe. I actually felt bad when I called her a spammer ...after the fact.
""...or maybe a project a feeling on them.""

oohh, good point. that could very well be the case for me too.
I know she is a nice girl, but sometimes I just wish she'd post her own thoughts.
I never said I didn't like her.
wait, what did i say that could be taken hard? i really do wanna know.

it sounds condescending, doesn't it? is that what you mean? i didn't mean for it to come out like that- just didn't know how to phrase it better.
""if I'm a happy-go-lucky personality, heart-on-my-sleeve type, I would be quite concerned to know that just being me made someone sad.....""

yea, i guess i can understand that. i don't mean it to sound like i feel sorry for her or anything, or like i consider her beneath me. but i see how it could be taken that way. anywho...

my bad, GF.
The word that comes to my mind is .. naive.
occasionally, the same thing happens when i read moon_eyes' posts.
other than that, i'm hardly affected by dxp in terms of feelings.
You know, what's so surpising about you guys is that in this world, what you see is what you get! If you don't like something, turn it off. If you start to read something on a topic you already know about it, then quit reading it. What sense does it make to read through my ENTIRE post just to make rude comments on my post. The truth is, some people found my post helpful. And I could care less about the 1% of people who didn't find it helpful because honestly, my motto is if you're going to criticize me for what I do then do it BETTER than me & I don't see any of you posting anything better than what I've posted. It's not like I titled my post, "This is 100% true about Scorpios so read it and love it!"...No, that's not what I posted. Obviously, you guys read through the entire post & felt like your negative opinions matter. Why don't you guys do this...How about instead of spending countless hours debating on whether I was helpful or not, why don't you rewrite my post & do it better! THEN we'll talk.
"And I could care less about the 1% of people who didn't find it helpful"

lol .. yet, responded to the 1% , instead of the ones who liked it.
^ lolz
Are you sure you're an Aquarius?
"Not that we forget ourselves when we love. We just makes it a standing point that our partner knows and feels how much we love them. We seldom get the same in return."

The above quote by QS is referencing the depth of the Scorpion love, while not getting it back in return .. which leads me to a question for Scorpios.
To say that you don't forget yourselves, while expressing to the partner just how deep this love goes, yet, you aren't getting this depth of love returned ... then wouldn't it seem logical that if you loved so intensely without it being returned, unbeknownst to you, that this is, indeed, actually losing yourself in love?
For, it would seem to me, that IF you knew it wasn't being returned, then you wouldn't be giving of yourself with this depth unconditionally.
So, would it also, then, be safe to assume that you guys have love-blindness?
"AM, you been having sex with god again?"
No, but I saw her shagging this Jewish carpenter once...
Wow, thanks PP .. that is very enlightening. I guess since my experience with Scorpios aren't on the intimate (lovers) level, I just couldn't recognize it. Damn, I need a Scorpio lover .. this all sounds so deep and real.

In watching my son as he developed within his love for his wife, I can actually see these phases as you've described them.
For three years, he spent in Scorpio stage = very possessive and jealous, almost to the point of completely losing control of himself.
Now, he's at the Eagle stage .. accepting of his Ram in many ways, and always in her presence so not to hurt her because of the doubt that still echos, he is still leary of trusting her completely because of not knowing how to apply this within his love for her.
This is great news that there is a Phoenix Phase, in which he will be able to see the whole picture of their love together, without getting caught up in the incidents that take place, and let himself fully embrace their love together. Being a Ram, she certainly has a need for a man to love her unconditionally because .. well you know .. she's an Aries.
He loves her so much, yet, they still struggle ... hopefully one day soon, he'll be able to evolve to the next stage and truly be happy.
Thank you so much for telling me this .. smile
***To say that you don't forget yourselves, while expressing to the partner just how deep this love goes, yet, you aren't getting this depth of love returned ... then wouldn't it seem logical that if you loved so intensely without it being returned, unbeknownst to you, that this is, indeed, actually losing yourself in love?
For, it would seem to me, that IF you knew it wasn't being returned, then you wouldn't be giving of yourself with this depth unconditionally.
So, would it also, then, be safe to assume that you guys have love-blindness?***

It means, we are not as afraid as others when we finally trust someone with our hearts to give it to them period. We don't love those who don't love us back. It seems (and I am speaking from my own experience and what my partners have found amazing about me) we are able to exactly that love with all we have WITHOUT losing ourselves in it. Meaning, we can love you and still love ourselves enough to not be taken advantage of in any form. If we know a person loves us to the best of their ability. We can give our utmost love in return. The depth of our love seems to bee a little steeper than most. We don't mind shouting it from the roof top so to speak, but you better believe it is only when we know you honestly love us back... If that makes sense.
Some people can give all their love wether a person returns it or not. Not us. They return it but ours always seem to run deeper in the way we show it. It is more of an action thing than verbal for us.
***Phoenix phase ? capable of unconditional love. Recognize they are different and use the knowledge to help others understand themselves. No judging and total acceptance of all points of view, even those they don't agree with. Highly metaphysical with ability to be in the real world and still transcend it and bridge to the ?unseen? bigger aspects of existence.***
I seem to start all my relationships/friendships at the Phoenix Phase. Maybe because I am now 77 years old. LOL!!!
Nah, seriously. I think it is irelevant to go through the other two phases before reaching this one. It isn't good for the heart and soul. However, I do find scorp men going throught them or one in particular.
Thanks PP you da man!
PP, could you describe to the best of your knowledge the difference between a scorp woman and scorp man? Although I find some similar things. However quite a few differences. Especially when the two are involved. Extremely intense and can be extremely explosive at the same time.
Well, I don't know either QS, since I'm a Pisces .... but, I know that the phases (first 2) that PP described, I saw in my son when he was evolving in his love.
If other Scorpio women in here can start at Phase 3, then maybe this is a difference with the genders.

Actually, you know what .... if I take away the "intimacy" aspect of this love and look at it in a different kind of love. I can see where my son went through this with loving and trusting me when I got him.
No way QS...are you really 77 years old???
WOWWWWWWWWWWW....
I thought you were playin or something....you look AMAZING

PP...I have a question...The three states os scorpio...I thought they were accordingly with your age, as you get older you transpass the phases....
I didnt know it would apply to the development of a relationship!!!
Well...Im 20y old...Am I on the first, second or third stage???Or it all depends of what you heart/mind feels?
krysrenee7- i really liked your description and it made sense to me since i'm trying to figure some things out. i guess, it's great for someone like me who's not as swift and scorp knowledgeable as some other peoplesmile
LOL!!! I am 36.
And one more thing...You keep saying I'm not going to do well on this site...Seems like to me, YOU are the only one who has a problem with my posts. I've gotten alot of personal feedback from EVERYBODY Else, which most of it was good...I find it kind of funny that you think YOU are that important that you feel you can be the judge as to if someone will "do well" on the site or not.
krysrenee7- don't listen to anybody and post all you want. everybody does it. it's a free site. if someone is disagreeing - it's their right to do so. as i said, i find it interesting if someone doesn't then they don't. that's all there is to itsmile
That's all there is to it !!!

I do find it interesting that you are focused on arguing about it, though. Kind of contridicts the whole point of your argument, though, doesn't it?
The argument being ..... you want people to TALK about the post and not other stuff.
I've always been kinda jealous of the fact that Pisces are born already evolved. Saves them the trouble of having to go through all those phases, the way Scorps tend to do.
Really, maybe some pisces, some I find really over sensitive and insecure.
lol
Nothing personal P-Angel. My closest pisces friends seem this way.
She was laughing at me, QS. And you. The exchange.
I really dont think all Scorpios are possesive, jealous, and controlling, because I'm sure not. I LOVE freedom and feel my partner deserves some as well. I don't get jealous as easily as most Scorpios either because I know that if he is mine, he will be going home with me. Besides, I have to feel secure in a relationship before I get in one anyway. Maybe I'm just different... smile
have to agree with you guys. i'm seeing this scorp guy and he doesn't seem to be jealous at all. we haven't discussed our status at this point so, this could be it or he doesn't care.
HUMMM, NOW DON'T BE TELLING ALL OF THE SECRECTS! LOL I CAN'T TALK TOO MUCH BECAUSE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO READ MY WRITINGS , COMING TO YOUR STORES SOON. HELL, ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS, I'M ME FIRST AND I GOT SCORPIO IN ME SECOND , THIRD AND SO ON....
I KNOW THAT , NOONE WILL LOVE U LIKE I CAN. AND HELL, I DO FEEL UNAPPRECIATED OFTEN... ESPECIALLY REALTIONSHIPS.. YEAH, NOONE LOVES LIKE ME, THEN AGAIN, DO I WANT THEM TO, I HOLD IT DOWN IN THAT AREA, LOL... PEOPLE BE SO DAMN OVERWHLEMED BY ME, MY LOVE... I LOVED MORE THAN SOME PEOPLE'S MAMA'S
i find most of that big paragraph is a good explanation for an unevolved scorpio.
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