What to do with a Scorpio man...
This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by MsVirgo2008 on Thursday, January 3, 2008 and has 16 replies.
Yesterday, I got tired of a Scorpio man's games. So, I told him it was over and all the reasons why.
If things were not on his terms he ignored me and acted as though I wasn't there. He also has a habit of stretching the truth and everyone knows what is going on with him but, me. When he quit his job... I was the last to know however, those who he doesn't really have a relationship with knew. He started testing me and it made me really upset especially, with some of the things he was doing... Riddiculus! Childish! When will he grow up! When I first started talking to him, I noticed that he would give me sad stories of how someone was down and he came to their rescue. Half of the stories he told, I did not believe however, he has a gentle way about him. There is something I find desirable in him. I want him back...
Is it too soon to start thinking about getting him back? How do I get him back? He was wrong...
If things were not on his terms he ignored me and acted as though I wasn't there. He also has a habit of stretching the truth and everyone knows what is going on with him but, me. When he quit his job... I was the last to know however, those who he doesn't really have a relationship with knew. He started testing me and it made me really upset especially, with some of the things he was doing... Riddiculus! Childish! When will he grow up! When I first started talking to him, I noticed that he would give me sad stories of how someone was down and he came to their rescue. Half of the stories he told, I did not believe however, he has a gentle way about him. There is something I find desirable in him. I want him back...
Is it too soon to start thinking about getting him back? How do I get him back? He was wrong...
Why would you want someone who shuts you out of his life and is a compulsive liar?
MsVirgo .. I'm gonna be frank with you here .. Water People find it very difficult to be with Virgo's because we find the majority of Virgo's to be passion handicapped when it comes to everyday situations. During sex, the Virgo will become impassioned, but, not with anything else.
It's hard to explain this .. when he loses his job, or tells you a sob story, or tries to test you .. he's attempting to evoke emotions. Though people say that Scorpio's and Virgo's are good together, I doubt that to be true .... when something happens in the Scorpio life, they "feel" it extremely, intense. So, now you have a Virgo sitting there, cool/controlled/emotionless about the issue.
Water people have zings that surge through their whole bodies when they encounter most situations, and to be around somebody who doesn't feel these things with us, leaves us resentful.
Example: He lost his job .. at this time, he was having all kinds of feelings run through him. If he had talked to you, since you are a Virgo, you would have likely pointed out all the reasons why he lost his job, where he needs to improve, options open to him of finding new employment. And the thing is .. he is NOT going to be looking for direction in his life ... he will be looking for someone to let him "feel" whatever this intensity is and live it with him, rather than guide him.
Another example: He would tell you sob stories and about how someone came to his rescue. In your eyes, I'm sure you saw this as looking for pity, for you referred to it as "sob" .. you completely disregarded the emotional side of the story and just looked at it logically. He wasn't looking for pity, he was looking for you to show some kind of PASSION.
I don't know how to explain this to a Virgo .. for if I knew how, I wouldn't be failing with trying to get mine to comprehend. We don't need guidance, structure .. we just need you to embrace our feelings with us.
The response from a Virgo when we tell them about what is going through us emotionally .. is a stone-cold wall. And we simply can't live this way .. all Water People. And, I'm not saying the Virgo is wrong, nor the Scorpio, rather ... just too different in the way the two express themselves to find satisfying compatibility.
It's hard to explain this .. when he loses his job, or tells you a sob story, or tries to test you .. he's attempting to evoke emotions. Though people say that Scorpio's and Virgo's are good together, I doubt that to be true .... when something happens in the Scorpio life, they "feel" it extremely, intense. So, now you have a Virgo sitting there, cool/controlled/emotionless about the issue.
Water people have zings that surge through their whole bodies when they encounter most situations, and to be around somebody who doesn't feel these things with us, leaves us resentful.
Example: He lost his job .. at this time, he was having all kinds of feelings run through him. If he had talked to you, since you are a Virgo, you would have likely pointed out all the reasons why he lost his job, where he needs to improve, options open to him of finding new employment. And the thing is .. he is NOT going to be looking for direction in his life ... he will be looking for someone to let him "feel" whatever this intensity is and live it with him, rather than guide him.
Another example: He would tell you sob stories and about how someone came to his rescue. In your eyes, I'm sure you saw this as looking for pity, for you referred to it as "sob" .. you completely disregarded the emotional side of the story and just looked at it logically. He wasn't looking for pity, he was looking for you to show some kind of PASSION.
I don't know how to explain this to a Virgo .. for if I knew how, I wouldn't be failing with trying to get mine to comprehend. We don't need guidance, structure .. we just need you to embrace our feelings with us.
The response from a Virgo when we tell them about what is going through us emotionally .. is a stone-cold wall. And we simply can't live this way .. all Water People. And, I'm not saying the Virgo is wrong, nor the Scorpio, rather ... just too different in the way the two express themselves to find satisfying compatibility.
I wonder .. do people ever really "think" about WHY people do stuff?
Or, do they just "see" that things happen and then toss aside?
You say he does things that irritate you, but, just "that" he does them, isn't sufficient enough .. "why" do people do things.
"If things were not on his terms he ignored me and acted as though I wasn't there."
Why? Do you ask yourself this question, or just see that he does it?
There's a reason
"He also has a habit of stretching the truth and everyone knows what is going on with him but, me. When he quit his job... I was the last to know"
Why?
I guess what I'm getting at is that you comprenhend that things are done by him .... yet, want him back, anyway. But, would you want him back if you looked at the reasons why?
If he's ignoring you because he doesn't truth you, then would you want him back? If he just means to control, and has no feelings for you, would you want him back? If he's a compulsive liar, would you want him back?
People just see "that" the wind is blowing .... they rarely look at "what" is in the wind.
Or, do they just "see" that things happen and then toss aside?
You say he does things that irritate you, but, just "that" he does them, isn't sufficient enough .. "why" do people do things.
"If things were not on his terms he ignored me and acted as though I wasn't there."
Why? Do you ask yourself this question, or just see that he does it?
There's a reason
"He also has a habit of stretching the truth and everyone knows what is going on with him but, me. When he quit his job... I was the last to know"
Why?
I guess what I'm getting at is that you comprenhend that things are done by him .... yet, want him back, anyway. But, would you want him back if you looked at the reasons why?
If he's ignoring you because he doesn't truth you, then would you want him back? If he just means to control, and has no feelings for you, would you want him back? If he's a compulsive liar, would you want him back?
People just see "that" the wind is blowing .... they rarely look at "what" is in the wind.
*** trust .......
If he ignores you because he doesn't TRUST you
If he ignores you because he doesn't TRUST you
Think about that ...
He ignores me ...
He tests me ...
He treats me bad ....
He's a liar ....
He just wants pity ..
He's all these bad things that made me come in here and vent ..
I want him back ....
He ignores me ...
He tests me ...
He treats me bad ....
He's a liar ....
He just wants pity ..
He's all these bad things that made me come in here and vent ..
I want him back ....
Water people aren't easy for Virgo's, lv ... so, it goes both ways. When I said all the above, I was focusing on how the Virgo's are difficult ... but, so are we.
Cancer's expect for people to walk on egg-shells, lie even, to protect their feelings.
Scorpio's will teeter inbetween the two you mentioned without any warning, so you never know which one you'll get.
Pisces don't really care how you feel and will just ignore you, if it suits them.
So, it's damn hard. Truly, I don't believe Virgo's belong with water people. We just clash.
Cancer's expect for people to walk on egg-shells, lie even, to protect their feelings.
Scorpio's will teeter inbetween the two you mentioned without any warning, so you never know which one you'll get.
Pisces don't really care how you feel and will just ignore you, if it suits them.
So, it's damn hard. Truly, I don't believe Virgo's belong with water people. We just clash.
Really? And, there seems to be many of this combo .. so, it can work out, I guess. It shouldn't though 
Maybe the moons?
But, still .. I maintain my second and third post in here, as well as what SS and Roxi said .. if a person comprehends that a person is all wrong for you, then apply it. Don't let it be confusing.
If this man is an arse .... then walk away.
Maybe the moons?
But, still .. I maintain my second and third post in here, as well as what SS and Roxi said .. if a person comprehends that a person is all wrong for you, then apply it. Don't let it be confusing.
If this man is an arse .... then walk away.
I understand the different perspectives and I have to agree on the points that are being shown. He wasn't my first Scorpio relationship... They tend to do you dirty then call back after you are already in another relationship or have moved on emotionally. I just wished he could have seen that I was there for him if only he could communicate with me rather than shutting me out and playing games. I am what is on the inside. I guess that a lot of my problem comes from wanting to give and receive the same care, respect and love back. He didn't even fight it, he just hung up. We have had fights before where he would not talk to me for days and then all of a sudden he calls to work things out. However, the situation in his opinion, stemmed from my actions opposed to the games he plays. When we argue it is competitive and he wants to take home the title. At the end... He makes me feel bad about what I may have said to him by talking about his shortcomings and upbringing. The last time... I was not a happy woman.
I will admit that I tried to encourage him to get another job because I felt he was not actively pursuing employment. I feel that in a way, he hasn't quite grown up. He is also careless with words...
I will admit that I tried to encourage him to get another job because I felt he was not actively pursuing employment. I feel that in a way, he hasn't quite grown up. He is also careless with words...
I know I am the biggest fool in the world however, I sat down and weighed the positives with the negatives... The negatives won but for some reason, I don't see how I am still thinking about him.
But why would you want to go through all that again? We were just talking about this on another board. If it ended the first time, it will most likely end the second time and usually for the very same reasons, only it will be even more painful because you've reopened the wound.
I've been through this with a Scorpio myself. The 2nd time was even uglier and all the more difficult because I felt like an idiot for falling for it again. I know it's difficult to move on sometimes, but save yourself from repeating such a hard lesson.
You don't want to end up cynical and bitter like me before your time. ; )
I've been through this with a Scorpio myself. The 2nd time was even uglier and all the more difficult because I felt like an idiot for falling for it again. I know it's difficult to move on sometimes, but save yourself from repeating such a hard lesson.
You don't want to end up cynical and bitter like me before your time. ; )
P-Angel,
I *applaud* you on your extremely insightful posts! Despite being a water sign myself, I often made the mistake with my ex-Cancer husband of answering logically when he was asking for an emotional response. I do a bit better with people in general now. And many signs want that emotional response -- for example, my Leo babysitter always wants praise....she constantly criticizes me, but I know it's her way of trying to feel good. In fact, I've even known Virgs who want that admiring eye, but they sometimes don't give back.
I don't know why people can't read their cue cards. Sometimes it's selfishness -- they want their agenda to be recognized, and so they steamroller over the other person. Sometimes it's laziness....people go on automatic with each other, and pretend to be listening, but are really coming from their own egos. Sometimes it's ignorance (true in my case) that people ask for emotional response in veiled terms.....and the other person truly doesn't recognise it...until it's too late.
I loved what you said about feelings surging through your whole body. When I am in emotional pain, I am in physical pain, too.
I *applaud* you on your extremely insightful posts! Despite being a water sign myself, I often made the mistake with my ex-Cancer husband of answering logically when he was asking for an emotional response. I do a bit better with people in general now. And many signs want that emotional response -- for example, my Leo babysitter always wants praise....she constantly criticizes me, but I know it's her way of trying to feel good. In fact, I've even known Virgs who want that admiring eye, but they sometimes don't give back.
I don't know why people can't read their cue cards. Sometimes it's selfishness -- they want their agenda to be recognized, and so they steamroller over the other person. Sometimes it's laziness....people go on automatic with each other, and pretend to be listening, but are really coming from their own egos. Sometimes it's ignorance (true in my case) that people ask for emotional response in veiled terms.....and the other person truly doesn't recognise it...until it's too late.
I loved what you said about feelings surging through your whole body. When I am in emotional pain, I am in physical pain, too.
okay fine, we're dicks.
I like to think that we're just misunderstood.
I like to think that we're just misunderstood.
Nobody said you're ALL dicks, SR.
I know, I'm just trying to lighten the mood.
P-Angel (about Scorpio & Virgo couples): "...there seems to be many of this combo .. so, it can work out, I guess. It shouldn't though..."
But, it does work - if there's mutual love & respect. And, if Virgo is willing to do the following: Don't THINK, don't TALK, just FEEL. Not all the time, of course! But when Scorp is happy / angry / upset / whatever, don't run that big yap, and don't offer a gazillion options / solutions for Scorp's problems...
JUST BE THERE. OPEN. LOVING. ACCEPTING. FEELING.
It's so damn simple, but it's a tough switch from Normal Virgo Programming.
Here's a truth: The road to breakup / divorce is neatly paved with Virgo logic.
No, it's not like Earth Sign = Bad, and Water Sign = Good. We simply have different ways of relating. Earth wants Water to be more reliable, and Water wants Earth to get the corn cob out of its butt. (And we really want that, too!) We have to be willing to set aside egos, and learn from each other.
When I think of all the changes my Scorp & I have made for and with each other, it is mind-boggling. The Old DY would've said, "Baby, you're crazy! Ain't no way we can do all that sh1t!" But I trust her, and her confidence is contagious. With The Twins here, we've leveled-off for a while -- which suits me just fine! Now the Virgo can consolidate the gains, bring order to chaos - and she trusts me to do just that.
Yes, it can work.
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