will scorps ever tell you how they feel about you?

When we first started chatting and hooking up he was in the "fwb" part of my brain. I'd msg him for some dirty talk or whatever, a few mths in and I started to want to be more involved in his "life". I brought this up to him and it was met with some logical "I don't hide our relationship, but don't advertise it either" bullbutter.
So he went back into the fwb section...
Problem is, the dudes blowing up my email and phone all the time. If he wants more of a "relationship" I'm cool with him taking up more of my time- but if he's going to be shady he can stay on the sidelines
How can I let him know this without hurting his feelings? He's pretty sensitive to being told no (been stung slightly a few times)
I care about him but it's at a point now where I'm bored of dancing around the whole emotional aspect of this deal.
Should I just tell him outright? Or will that scare him off?

Been chatting daily/hanging out for 4-5mths, know each other for a year.
Him
Scorp sun, scorp moon, mars and venus in sag
Me
Libra sun, libra moon, venus in virgo, mars in cancer :/

I'm not out to please anyone 🙂-and everytime I pull back he pushes harder
The basis for my question was this guy is cool, and I'm interested to see if it could go beyond what it is right now. Which is essentially light convo about the day and what we're going to do to each other when we see each other lol
I feel like I just want to hear him say SOMETHING meaningful, or if that's not their style I'll get that and move on.
Just don't want to end it if it could be more
Something I have to try to feel out I guess

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Posted by Goddessproxy
FWB meh.

Yeah. My thoughts exactly.. it should have a tag line: "FWB!: All the intimacy of a relationship with none of the obligations!"

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Lol. Well..I feel I've been alive for 200 years, been in serious relationships and not so serious relationships..right now we're f*cking the hell out of each other and haven't even said "Hey..I like you". So I guess that's what the term is. It was relevant to the question so there it is 😉

I get what you're saying 🙂 Thanks all. If he wanted more he'd say it.

Being a Scorpio woman I have to say that for me I fall fast. I tend to know right away if I like someone. However, I will not let them know I "love" them until they say it first. Fear of rejection, being hurt, etc.

Is the relationship solely about sex or do you hang out outside the bedroom? If just in the bedroom I would say he isn't that into you. When I like someone I want to be EVERYWHERE with them.

Being a Scorpio Man, it doesn't really what I think, so I am told.

Posted by aanchalp
Hi Delaneia,
I can understand your current situation.Scorpio men are complicated creatures with super complex emotions.Also, they do not commit easily or ultra fast just because things are good.Scorpio trust very slowly and deeply mull over all aspects of the relationship before moving to the next step,ie-commitment because they like to be completely sure of whom they are surrendering themselves to(both emotionally and physially).They take time to sniff their partner out like a hound based upon the following parameters-loyalty,complete devotion to them and reliability(though they themselves might have mood swings/be unreliable).
Also, if you push them too hard or try to get over involved despite resistance from him, he might think of it as encroachment upon his personal space.
You will have to take a decision about whether or not you want to be around him because pushing hard or being demanding will not help(things will move @ his pace only,you can take it or leave it).Scorpio generally find it difficult to express feelings in words but demonstrate them via their actions(for example, he wants to spend time with you, care for you).So decide if you want to hang in there and see how it goes or end it.
If you decide to stay, you will have to be patient, supportive and loving all the time even if he behaves moodily/coldy at times.That would get him to trust you enough to open up to you and share his feelings.
Your call.

"They take time to sniff their partner out like a hound"

and don't forget we are like dirty rotten sniff sniff dogs - Or so I am told.

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Posted by MrFirebird
Being a Scorpio Man, it doesn't really what I think, so I am told.

Awwh, that's it. I am buying you some salsa. 🙂

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Mighty tasty.

What I meant to say was "it doesn't really "matter" what I think, or so I am told."

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Being a Scorpio Man, it doesn't really what I think, so I am told.

Awwh, that's it. I am buying you some salsa. 🙂

Mighty tasty.

What I meant to say was "it doesn't really "matter" what I think, or so I am told."

I know. The salsa is for the chips you have on your shoulder 🙂

..And please don't interpret that maliciously. I meant it to be gently joking, not offensive.

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Oh.... I thought it was for something.... kinky, for later tonight. 😉

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with salsa? Mexican food tends to more gassy than kinky, IME.

And what appetizing dip would you suggest for the chip?

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Posted by MrFirebird
Being a Scorpio Man, it doesn't really what I think, so I am told.

Awwh, that's it. I am buying you some salsa. 🙂

Mighty tasty.

What I meant to say was "it doesn't really "matter" what I think, or so I am told."

I know. The salsa is for the chips you have on your shoulder 🙂

..And please don't interpret that maliciously. I meant it to be gently joking, not offensive.

Oh.... I thought it was for something.... kinky, for later tonight. 😉

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LOL! This ^ is how our conversations turn out. 0_____o . Me commenting on something about him and him turning into something naughty

Posted by Aramei
Being a Scorpio woman I have to say that for me I fall fast. I tend to know right away if I like someone. However, I will not let them know I "love" them until they say it first. Fear of rejection, being hurt, etc.

Is the relationship solely about sex or do you hang out outside the bedroom? If just in the bedroom I would say he isn't that into you. When I like someone I want to be EVERYWHERE with them.

When we hook up- he asks if I want to go anywhere (dinner etc)..but our time is so limited together that I just want to "stay in" if you get my drift. We talk everynight.
He wants to take me shopping -.-. I dislike shopping, but I think that's what he thinks girls like. *facepalm*
There's like no way in hell I can say it first. Even thinking about it gives me an heart attack. He's too "cool" to gauge how he feels on a more than basic level

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Posted by MrFirebird
Being a Scorpio Man, it doesn't really what I think, so I am told.

Awwh, that's it. I am buying you some salsa. 🙂

Mighty tasty.

What I meant to say was "it doesn't really "matter" what I think, or so I am told."

I know. The salsa is for the chips you have on your shoulder 🙂

..And please don't interpret that maliciously. I meant it to be gently joking, not offensive.

Oh.... I thought it was for something.... kinky, for later tonight. 😉

LOL! This ^ is how our conversations turn out. 0_____o . Me commenting on something about him and him turning into something naughty

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Taking notes:
We "turn into something naughty"... ok got it...., anything else—

Posted by Nemesis
imo and experience 😄 - a scorpio will show you their love and appreciation through their actions. their loyalty. the time they commit. when they take you seriously, when they pay attention to details of your life - when they give you advice.

then there are those moments when they look at you and you know what time it is 😉

during sex they mean each I LOVE YOU 😛

Damned right we mean it when we say every I LOVE YOU!

Posted by Nemesis
imo and experience 😄 - a scorpio will show you their love and appreciation through their actions. their loyalty. the time they commit. when they take you seriously, when they pay attention to details of your life - when they give you advice.

+1

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...scorps tend to let go of the insecurites and fear when they are intimate. both stripped. both in the same situation. equals....

i don't need confessions - i prefer deeds over talk -

+1

Posted by Nemesis
hey mr. firebird :😄 hope you??re well?

i find scorps tend to let go of the insecurites and fear when they are intimate. both stripped. both in the same situation. equals.

just my experience 🙂

i don't need confessions - i prefer deeds over talk -

Sometimes, deeds are done in ways, which are never seen.
Seeds planted in the ground, long before the fruits of that
tree are ever, ever found. Sooner or later, the words must be said.
The highway goes in two directions,
and so long as we are on the same page,
we'll stroll down that road, side by side,
And neither of us ought not have anything to hide.

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Posted by capgirl75
My Scorp has not ever been like you are describing, since I met him.
He definitely doesn't like the fwb thing, he has never dirty chatted me, never asked me for pictures , never hid the fact we are dating, advertised it from the start, even though I'm a lot older than him.
He doesn't have a problem expressing his feelings either, and he's not hot and cold.

+1

If a scorp is confident and knows where they stand from the very beginning, you won't experience ANY of that.

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Sounds lovely..and now I'm sad lol. I think I've got the jist of it. Thanks for all who have answered. I appreciate..as always..your valuable input —

Posted by capgirl75
Taking notes, Mr. F!
This has been my experience with Mr. Scorp, so far, but can you elaborate on what you mean by:
"Sometimes, deeds are done in ways, which are never seen.
Seeds planted in the ground, long before the fruits of that
tree are ever, ever found."

Oftentimes, we do things which require an extremely intense sensitivity on the part
of the woman we love. Oftentimes, we do things for the woman who doesn't even
know. The key here, is extreme sensitivity. That's not to say "coddle" him, but
be observant, and sensitive to the little things and be aware that something larger
than life is also going on behind the scenes. When he says he loves you, that's when
you must melt and return the affectionate words because that's when he is planting
those seeds or tending to the vine, right there in front of you. That's when
he lays his heart on your altar. The stupidest thing any woman can say to
her Scorpio Man is "I know", in response, and if she has a habit of saying that,
he's going take note of it. And it will hurt him immensely. "I know" = "Fuck off and die!".

Posted by Nemesis
imo and experience 😄 - a scorpio will show you their love and appreciation through their actions. their loyalty. the time they commit. when they take you seriously, when they pay attention to details of your life - when they give you advice.

then there are those moments when they look at you and you know what time it is 😉

during sex they mean each I LOVE YOU 😛

+1 ^ This in a nut shell! Spoken like a true Scorpio!

Oh.... and for those ladies who believe what they will.

Spoken beautifully Mr.F...absolutely eloquent
Thank you for your post
THIS is what draws me to you damn scorpios-just glimpses of those waters underneath keep me hooked

If you don't want a serious commitment and just a fuck I wouldn't pick a scorpio to do that with. They bring their drama and emotional shit into everything. Even on the smallest scale.

( dated 2 just saying )

An air sign would be better for that.

If you want a relationship why are you just hooking up with him? Usually you get to know each other and than date and then hook-up.

I'm not saying I haven't started out a relationship with sex but that usually ends up being all it is even if we do end up dating. I don't know. who knows...

Posted by Sag89
If you don't want a serious commitment and just a fuck I wouldn't pick a scorpio to do that with. They bring their drama and emotional shit into everything. Even on the smallest scale.

( dated 2 just saying )

An air sign would be better for that.

If you want a relationship why are you just hooking up with him? Usually you get to know each other and than date and then hook-up.

I'm not saying I haven't started out a relationship with sex but that usually ends up being all it is even if we do end up dating. I don't know. who knows...

"Drama"?

Lovely Post Firebird...adore the part about being sensitive and yet not 'coddling'🙂

Hahaha nice one firebird...

Posted by ellessque
hey, Sag89!

Happy New Year! 🙂

You too dear!

I hope you had good holidays 🙂

Posted by MrFirebird

Oftentimes, we do things which require an extremely intense sensitivity on the part
of the woman we love. Oftentimes, we do things for the woman who doesn't even
know. The key here, is extreme sensitivity. That's not to say "coddle" him, but
be observant, and sensitive to the little things and be aware that something larger
than life is also going on behind the scenes. When he says he loves you, that's when
you must melt and return the affectionate words because that's when he is planting
those seeds or tending to the vine, right there in front of you. That's when
he lays his heart on your altar. The stupidest thing any woman can say to
her Scorpio Man is "I know", in response, and if she has a habit of saying that,
he's going take note of it. And it will hurt him immensely. "I know" = "Fuck off and die!".
So fair warning to any woman that plays that stupid head game of "I know" -
mark your calendar, so you can trace it back from the day that he leaves you.

Again, what I said in your quote is elaborated as simply this: Be very sensitive and watch what he does and appreciate those things however insignificant they may be.
For him, the relationship is like a canvas and the both of you are applying the paint to
the painting, and it is important that the both of you understand that you two are
painting the picture and it is up to you to work together and be extremely patient with
one another. Why—?? A Masterpiece takes time: it doesn't happen, overnight.
Remember, with Scorpio, it's about two souls becoming one. As if the heart and mind guides
and directs the flesh and blood to apply the pigment to that canvas.
Inspire him and watch what happens.
You'll never, never know the one who loves you so...

Aw, This was BEAUTIFUL. My Scorp laid his heart on my altar, he has said that he loves me several times, it felt "Early" to me..I find that I need more time to actually say it back. While I don't say "I know" in response...I have told him to "let love grow". I'm just not the type to say those three words for the sake of just saying them. I care for him immensely, I show him through my actions..and I DO pay attention to all the little things..I just need time, I can't hurry love.

hi Delaneia,

I have a suggestion.

Instead of asking him to define whether he wants more, how about you take notice of the times he asks to take you out for dinner or shopping and let him do that?

Let him date you when he wants to.

He may feel a little rejected at you saying no and wanting to jump straight into bed.

You've got nothing to lose with a little shopping and maybe next time you can suggest something else.

You've had some really sensitive advice about your Scorpio man. I wish these great people had been around to comment on mine a couple of weeks ago.

Ivy

Actually some of the people who have commented above did give me some very wise advice in my thread and I do not mean to discredit that. Unfortunately there were also a couple of posters who made me feel like I had to fight for my life and that left me wih a tainted experience.

I would have preferred some input from fire and ellesque. That was what I meant. xx

Posted by immaculate virgoan
hi Delaneia,

I have a suggestion.

Instead of asking him to define whether he wants more, how about you take notice of the times he asks to take you out for dinner or shopping and let him do that?

Let him date you when he wants to.

He may feel a little rejected at you saying no and wanting to jump straight into bed.

You've got nothing to lose with a little shopping and maybe next time you can suggest something else.

You've had some really sensitive advice about your Scorpio man. I wish these great people had been around to comment on mine a couple of weeks ago.

Ivy

The ironic thing about your post is for the last few days I have been trying to notice small things like this. And as I have been open to watching non verbal "cues" so to speak I have realized that perhaps.. there is something more. (He sends me pics of the work he's doing to his house, the gulls on the beach outside his property, tells me about his family)I verbalize my feelings and feel dissapointed when he doesn't. The only thing he does verbalize is our physical compatibility.I'm spending 3 days with him soon and will most likely have a better understanding as to how he feels if I can shut up long enough to pay attention. I absolutely credit a better understanding of how these guys operate to the posters here. I'll keep you updated!

I don't know how to make him confident on where he stands other than to verbalize it :/. And even trying to do that my damn Libra sun and moon(and a few other planets in Leeb) gets in the way and it appears to be very vague. I know what I'm trying to get across but I can bet that it seems very uncaring.
For instance I would say "Oh my, I'm glad you don't live closer to me-otherwise I wouldn't get any work done. You're quite the distraction"
Now I know I'm saying that he interests me enough to pull me away from work. And I'm meaning that as complimentary
The he says "Well I guess it is good that there's such a distance between us then"
0______o
And then I feel bad but don't try to correct him because it would feel lame
There's a lot of those conversations..

Air and water make bubbles

Yes Nancy. When I put it into writing and reflect on it, I can see that. And unfortunatly that is what the last 4 mths has been
I'd find it funny if it wasn't me in the situation lol
Alrighty..a little help for this double talking air sign?
I've only dated air and fire-which seem to understand the meaning behind my flirty statements
I need cold hard examples of what would be plain enough for him to understand.
I have said
"I like you 🙂 I'm glad I msged you by mistake a few months ago. You're very interesting to me"
^ That was my very best, excruciatingly honest statement a few days ago and he beat around asking me if anyone else at the time (of my mistaken msg) knew I was attracted to him.
Bleh
I need a translator

Yes, they do (though probably not entirely), after a good while. Even if they're the ones who are chasing you. 😛

The shady aspect isn't exactly uncommon for them. I've had the same problem with getting my phone blown up even after changing my number multiple times. He has trust issues and I was afraid of the insecurities I've seen in past partners. Gladly he showed no signs (or hid it well) and we were able to have something. For a fact, paying too much attention and being too open with him too soon will cause more suspicion and cause him to withdraw. Let things slowly 'unfold'.

If you can somehow show him, subtly through your actions, disinterest in other males and interest (but not too much) attention to him, see how he reacts. Make him feel relevant but not but not top priority. But most importantly, be natural and genuine. They're keen when it comes to dishonesty. Personally, I can't lie very well so I never risked it. Not to say that you need to tell them everything, but if you ever choose not to answer, simply do so and hold it back. Do. Not. Fib.

With my guy, he liked to play and would often test me, looking for assurance but acting as though he already had it, the prick. Things that I thought did not bother him at all I later learned bothered him greatly but he always stayed silent. He's the curious that rarely ask you questions. I'd pay attention to the reactions he may have to what you say or do, even if they are brief.

I once saw him talking friends (who are also my friends) and approached them. I hugged all of them, but unconsciously held on to him like 5 seconds longer. It's unbelievable how the males of this sign pick up on the smallest of detail. Felt like hiding in a ditch when he pointed it out as I hate feeling exposed. These men enjoy 'finding things out' as it gives them a sense of satisfaction. Plus, everything is a little more believable to him if you show how you feel through actions and let catch on his own. Opposed to words and empty promises, they prefer action.

Like any man though, if you show no interest, he may back off entirely. He might say something, but probably not for some time. Whether you're currently fucking or not.

You still on J? 😉

-feels exposed-

This is only true for me cause I'm a good guy. 😛

For some men 'I love you' are not exactly 'sacred words' that we say when we're ready or does it mean 'putting his heart on your altar'. I can't say I've always been 'good' but I have used those words several times before with past women, never meaning any of it. I said it because I knew they wanted to hear it and get off it. They did. Some took it well, some didn't. And you know what? I know several males like this. It's more common than you think so don't get your hopes up.

This is not the case for me anymore but men will be men, Scorpio or not. Let him show you if you want the real thing.

Ain't that right, Leo?