Wounded Scorp, do you have a road map to your hear

All you broken-hearted Scorps, please share your wisdom with us gentiles about how we can help you trust and open your heart to love again. I know it is no easy task. You know you want that love and intimacy. What is your magic tipping point? How many years do I need to be a safe, loving, fun, patient, gives you your space person to win access to your heart? Hmmmm?

Thanks Ellybd for your insight. Oh, if I could walk away, I would. My damn Pisces nature wants to heal the wounded, love the unlovable, collect and mend the discarded. Just call me Florence Nightingale! Woe is me... We have a wonderful and rich friendship. Hopefully my heart can be content with that alone someday. I have issued a restraining order on myself not to initiate contact with him for the next couple of weeks. Not that I was contacting him a lot, but it's been me initiating communication as of late, probably letting him be too comfortable and in control. This won't be easy. Ugh. I will be seeing him in early Sept, will play it as cool as I can.

One question I have, since I have let him know twice, in no uncertain terms, how I feel for him and he said he is not interested in romance. Will pride keep him from making an advance if he has a change of heart since he was not the first one to act, especially as the man? When I spoke to him about all his words and actions that would lead any woman to believe he is romantically interested, his intellect denied it, but his body language was like a kid getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

i truly believe that if a scorp thinks your the shyt, you could do everything to him and it wouldnt sway him one bit. they love you too much not to have you in their life. every minute theyre not with you is torture. they count down the days to just be in the same room with you. when you talk to him, it makes his millennium. when you dont, he wants to die.

as someone with the moon, if im truly down for you and everything about you...you could virtually cheat on me, kill my cat and id still sweat the shit outta you while i curse you out and then blow your brains out.

i dont think time is a factor at all. a scorp could spend months away from you with no contact whatsoever, but as soon as he sees you. he all yours. he will still be as intimate and devoted to you as if you never left his side.

a person gains access to my heart through forgiveness. if you can forgive the shyt i do to you, whoa buddy. you deserve all of me.

@ DMV, I forgive all the butter he does. I am loyal, defend him when others curse him for his aloofness, arrogance or sharp tongue. He says I am one of the few people that he trusts and that he loves me just as I am and I come up empty handed. It's bizarre. In a weird way, I think he is secretly planning a future for us that I am unaware of. He lives in another state, firmly entrenched there, but spoke to a realtor friend last year about looking at homes in my city; and again, a few months ago, asked me about the cost of homes in our favorite neighborhood we stroll in when he is in town. I asked him what was up with the house thing and he ignored me. What the&(#* $ (#?

Someone also said to me they thought he might be having worthiness issues. I sort of laughed initially at the thought of that, this is an accomplished, powerful, charismatic, confidant man - a scorpio in his glory. But as I pondered it more, I know he had a rough childhood and knowing his heart a bit, the worthiness bit began to ring a bit true. I know that I have some qualities he covets, especially when it comes to my ease at connecting with people and making them feel loved and at ease. I see him watching me interact with people all the time. Strangely, he is also the consumate schmoozer and can work a room like no one I have seen, but he's like that when he's working, not when connecting on a personal level. He is always eager to know what I think of him.

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@ DMV, I forgive all the butter he does. I am loyal, defend him when others curse him for his aloofness, arrogance or sharp tongue. He says I am one of the few people that he trusts and that he loves me just as I am and I come up empty handed. It's bizarre. In a weird way, I think he is secretly planning a future for us that I am unaware of. He lives in another state, firmly entrenched there, but spoke to a realtor friend last year about looking at homes in my city; and again, a few months ago, asked me about the cost of homes in our favorite neighborhood we stroll in when he is in town. I asked him what was up with the house thing and he ignored me. What the&(#* $ (#?

well one thing i wouldnt do, is defend his bad behavior...a scorp being aloof, thats a good one.

are you 2 together in an official committed relationship?

No, we are not together, never have been. That is what is making me nuts. We have such a close friendship, people pick-up on a "couple vibe" with us all the time, but as Ellybd refered to in this thread, I believe he is hiding behind spirituality and has declared himself celibate though all the touching and sexual inuendo directed at me combined with genuine care, support and love make me wonder... He actually started out life as a Trappist monk, left that, got married, shot full of arrows and in pain, divorced (10 years ago) and is now on same spiritual path as me. There seems to be a tug of war going on inside of him. If he were truly celibate, he would not send all the messages he does. Also our telepathic/intuitve connection leads me to believe there is a whole lot he is not expressing to me. He feels very conflicted to me. There is crazy chemistry between us with no antidote in sight.

Here are our charts - I would love it if someone could take a stab at interpreting them

ME

Sun Pisces 19.21
Moon Scorpio 4.59
Mercury Aries 5.32
Venus Aquarius 6.45
Mars Aries 0.40
Jupiter Gemini 22.08
Saturn Pisces 19.49
Uranus Virgo 17.31 R
Neptune Scorpio 22.07 R
Pluto Virgo 17.08 R
Lilith Aquarius 27.30
Asc node Taurus 28.07

HIM

Sun Scorpio 22.58
Moon Libra 26.44
Mercury Sagittarius 14.53
Venus Sagittarius 29.28
Mars Capricorn 25.08
Jupiter Taurus 14.57 R
Saturn Libra 22.07
Uranus Cancer 18.19 R
Neptune Libra 22.35
Pluto Leo 23.14
Lilith Leo 25.45
Asc node Aquarius 16.08

I believe you hit the nail on the head Ellybd. He is an older Scorp and this battle is raging strong. Not a bitter divorce so much, his wife had a serious head injury and ensuing personality change to the dark side. He did everything to help her, searching the world for a doc who could help. She left him and crushed him. He probably took it as a sign from the heaven's that he should not be in relationship. I know I need to drop these feelings and move on. The connection is so strong, it's like crack and I need rehab!!