Years later my Scorpio is back -kinda (Long sorry)

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by BlankPage on Wednesday, July 9, 2014 and has 28 replies.
Hi everyone, I'm new here - I've signed up just to post in this section.
Firstly I am a Scorpio (more of the loner type). About 10 years ago I was in a relationship with a Scorpio man (more of the sociable type)
It was a bit of a train wreck of a relationship TBH. The highs where like nothing I have ever experienced before, we connected in a way that I can really explain, but equally the lows were really bad. Mind games / manipulation / withholding sex / jealousy etc.
So we went our separate ways (eventually). Kept in touch on and off. He met someone else, I met someone else. I got married, had a kid, bought a house etc and generally moved on. His relationship didn't work out and he is now single. He was (is) always in my thoughts - everyday I still think about him.
A couple of years ago we started chatting over Facebook quite a bit. We have some honest conversations about what happened in our relationship. Sometimes it would be months with nothing and other times we would chat every night for weeks.
Then out and about one day we run into each other and go for a drink. After a few hours we go back to his place and have amazing sex. I of course feel really guilty afterwards as I am married and don't do cheating - well never up to that point anyway.
We have met again a couple of times. I know I've been confused about everything and said that we can't meet again but then I can't stay away and send him a message. He has been equally as hot and cold with me.
So yeah what to do? I can't cope with cutting him out my life completely but I know he will always be in my head. I find myself now wondering if staying with my husband is the best idea, not that I would leave in the hope of Scorp Man and I getting back together - I'm not that naive. But I can't truly be happy if I could cheat on him with my ex ? It's not fair on him.
So any advice? I don't want to go into another round of Scorpio vs Scorpio mind games again - it was bad enough the first time round. Should I just quit all communication and leave it at that? (Even though his lack of communication will have me desperate to contact him) and hope that 3 months down the line he doesn't start contacting me and we go back to the same old.
What's the sign of your husband??
ScorpLeo - Husband is a Sagittarius.
Rabbit - Well I've never in all my years and relationships so much as kissed anyone else. I know if it was anyone else but this ex I wouldn't have even entertained the idea of going for a drink, let alone have sex with them.
I'm not looking for anyone's approval or disapproval of the cheating thanks. I know what I have done. I am now considering ending my marriage because of it. I know if it was the other way around I would not forgive him.
Ok so should I have posted and left out the cheating part then?
I thought I would get at least a bit if advice on how to stay the hell away from my ex. That's the bit I'm struggling with.
Posted by TwirlingStrawberry

....but perhaps some classes on self-control.


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+1,000,000
Just because you want something, doesn't mean you have to have it.
Everybody deserves second chances.... I know cheating is a crime and a Sagittarius will never forgive or forget it... I know nobody can understand what made you do this but now that unfortunately it has happened there's just one thing you can do.... Shut your eyes and think... Think for a while and choose the person you see! If it's your ex... Tell your husband but if you see your husband and family.....lose the ex and never, as in never tell your husband what happened! People are gonna hate my reply but ultimately you know what you're going through and what matters most is your intentions and your heart!
Ok I do get what everyone is saying. I too was in the same camp until all this happened. It's been a long fall off my pedestal believe me.
I'm not making excuses for cheating. I know it is wrong. I know I shouldn't have let it happen.
We only had sex that one time and the other times we have met (before and after) there has been nothing sexual happen (unless a hug counts) but there is sexual chemistry. I have told him it can't happen again and he hasn't pushed the subject. It's not like we are regularly meeting up for sex or anything like that. Emotionally cheating perhaps? I don't know. He knows me so well already. It's not like I'm sharing all this new stuff with him.
I won't chew you a new asshole. You know what you did and the consequences are yours to pay.
We are all flawed and no one here should judge you. I said 'should' but that's not the way this thread will pan out.
The scenario with the Scorpio ex: At first I thought maybe Twin Flame relationship but if it were and you end the relationship with your husband because of the Scorp then it ceases to be a Twin Flame relationship. Twins will not do this.
There are some Karmic values at play here though.
A- Tell your Husband. If you Love Him, Respect Him, and Cherish Him? Tell him before you end it. Face your consequences and if it survives you will be stronger. If it doesn't you will know you did the right thing after you did the wrong thing by taking the appropriate steps to bring full and complete closure to you current connection.
B- Break up with your Husband... end your marriage for a connection that will untimately be tainted by the fact that you cheated on your husband in the first place. No good karma can come from that.
@FrostAndBite & Stillwaters...That's the best advice I've heard so far...+ 100000000000.
Either way Blankpage, you have a moral decision to make, so make your choice, woman up
and deal with the consequences because every action will have a re-action.
No one's perfect and we all made mistakes that we regret, and no matter how much chemistry
you and this dude have, it's apparent there is no future for either of you as a couple.
If you have a pretty good husband and decent marriage, decide what's most important too you.
Your family or this on and off sexual relationship with this guy.
Good Luck to you though.
Posted by BlankPage
Hi everyone, I'm new here - I've signed up just to post in this section.
Firstly I am a Scorpio (more of the loner type). About 10 years ago I was in a relationship with a Scorpio man (more of the sociable type)
It was a bit of a train wreck of a relationship TBH. The highs where like nothing I have ever experienced before, we connected in a way that I can really explain, but equally the lows were really bad. Mind games / manipulation / withholding sex / jealousy etc.
So we went our separate ways (eventually). Kept in touch on and off. He met someone else, I met someone else. I got married, had a kid, bought a house etc and generally moved on. His relationship didn't work out and he is now single. He was (is) always in my thoughts - everyday I still think about him.
A couple of years ago we started chatting over Facebook quite a bit. We have some honest conversations about what happened in our relationship. Sometimes it would be months with nothing and other times we would chat every night for weeks.
Then out and about one day we run into each other and go for a drink. After a few hours we go back to his place and have amazing sex. I of course feel really guilty afterwards as I am married and don't do cheating - well never up to that point anyway.
We have met again a couple of times. I know I've been confused about everything and said that we can't meet again but then I can't stay away and send him a message. He has been equally as hot and cold with me.
So yeah what to do? I can't cope with cutting him out my life completely but I know he will always be in my head. I find myself now wondering if staying with my husband is the best idea, not that I would leave in the hope of Scorp Man and I getting back together - I'm not that naive. But I can't truly be happy if I could cheat on him with my ex ? It's not fair on him.
So any advice? I don't want to go into another round of Scorpio vs Scorpio mind games again - it was bad enough the first time round. Should I just quit all communication and leave it at that? (Even though his lack of communication will have me desperate to contact him) and hope that 3 months down the line he doesn't start contacting me and we go back to the same old.


@blankpage if it makes you feel any better, I'm in a similar situation. Married to Sag and recently ended an affair with a scorpio, nearly a month later, I'm still surviving. I really miss the Scorp in my life but my life is more simple. I'm no longer sneaking around, attached to either my iPad or iPhone or both. It helps that Scorp and I agreed there was no future in what we were doing. While my marriage is not nearly perfect, I have recommitted myself to working on it. My problem is while my husband has no proof, he does suspect something has happened over the course of the past 11 months I was dealing with Scorp guy. In my case, my husband has been and continues to be neglectful to me. Don't let the judgemental people get to you. It's hard for people to understand being on the outside. I've invested in therapy.
N people say were unfaithful..
Well yes there are some issues with my husband but I don't really want to share them on this thread as I feel it will sound like me making excuses.
I'm not here to blame my husband for what happened. To me that feels like I would be making excuses and blaming him for my actions which is not the case at all. Im should not have let myself get involved with someone else regardless of the issues in my marriage.
I am here because I am confused with my own emotions. How after all this time can I still be thinking about this guy? It's not like he pops into my head just when I'm feeling bad about my current relationship, he's there all the time. I suppose I thought that over time I would start to forget about him, that my memories would fade and it would be like with previous relationships. Maybe I would see something that would remind me of them (like a song or a movie) and then the memory would pass and I don't think about them for ages until something else makes me remember them. Not this guy though I find myself wondering where he is, what he is doing, if he's happy etc. How do you get that out your head? Even before the Facebook contact and not speaking to him for 2/3 years it was still there. And then for a while I would see him everywhere (literally) it was crazy but it passed after about 6 months. Then nothing for another year until we became Facebook friends, in the beginning we didn't even chat that much and even when we did it wasn't in a I miss you type of way. It was in a hows things? How's the job? Etc type of conversation. There was never any type of flirting or sexual undertones to the conversations it was always just a friend type conversation.
As for on the rebound? No. When I first met my husband I made it clear I was only a few months out of a relationship and not ready to get into another one. It was another 4 months before we actually went out as I did feel at that time I was ready to move on. I have never done rebound relationships, I like about a year on my own to get my head together. Ok in this case it was about 8 1/2 months. Maybe that was too soon but I did really like him and he was patient enough to wait around until I felt ready. Our relationship was like nothing I had experienced before. No drama, no games just easy and made perfect sense. Things only really started to fall apart once we had out child. The whole dynamic changed.
Anyway I am thinking of deleting this thread now as I have shared far too much already.
Posted by Sag89
N people say were unfaithful..


QFT
I'm not going to judge you, I'll get into what I think your post was asking. It sounds like this is one of those situations where you settled for the wrong person and ended up marrying them and you let the other one get away from you. Yes? No? If the person got away and came back...and you guys still can't stay away from each other, I would say that this is either a serious case of infatuation or true love at it's best. If it's that true love, that once in a lifetime love, that soul mate/twin flame love...I'd say go for it! Although you would have to deal with the emotional and financial consequences of hurting your wife (or husband? I can't remember if you are male or female) and kids, I think living out your life with the one you truly love is the best option. If not, it will reflect in the way you treat your family and your perspective about a lot of life decisions. It's selfish, yes. But if that's where true happiness lies, then that's where true happiness will be. I think you should take care of your family as best as possible with helping them transition. I just hope you are 1000% sure about this person before you take such a huge leap though.
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Posted by Sag89
N people say were unfaithful..


QFT
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Sags are known for their ability to maintain a long term commitment........... to everyone.
I don't see me and the other guy working out as a couple to be honest. I can get him out my head but I am not convinced we could work as a couple. I would be too afraid of the past repeating itself.
I think what this had given me is a wake up call. Perhaps I'm not supposed to be with anyone - I have always suspected this but thought I must have been wrong when I met my husband. I guess not.
Posted by BlankPage
.................................. Maybe that was too soon but I did really like him and he was patient enough to wait around until I felt ready. Our relationship was like nothing I had experienced before. No drama, no games just easy and made perfect sense. Things only really started to fall apart once we had out child. The whole dynamic changed.
Anyway I am thinking of deleting this thread now as I have shared far too much already.


What exactly changed after the child? Sex? Closeness to husband?
Posted by BlankPage
I don't see me and the other guy working out as a couple to be honest. I can't get him out my head but I am not convinced we could work as a couple. I would be too afraid of the past repeating itself.
I think what this had given me is a wake up call. Perhaps I'm not supposed to be with anyone - I have always suspected this but thought I must have been wrong when I met my husband. I guess not.


Scorpio likes to keep secrets. Scorpio secretly lives off the drama (your Sag husband brought you no drama, so you became bored in this department). Even when it is NEGATIVE emotions, Scorpio will latch on because it's SOMETHING. Obviously our self-destructive trait. Scorpio worries and worries and winds itself deeper down the long dark tunnel of despair. Eventually it comes back, transformed and such, IF it survives the trip. Sayeth the stereotypes. But...
You're literally considering leaving this guy who loves you enough to live with you and be married to you. Isn't being left the worst-case scenario/result for telling someone a secret that you're hiding from them?
So just tell the poor guy. Don't tell him with an "I'm leaving you because-". Tell him what you did and that you're sorry. If you're sorry. No excuses; just blunt honesty. Maybe he'll live and 'be free'. Maybe he'll even stick around. Or don't tell him, bottle everything up, and take it out on him from time to time when he pushes emo-hurt buttons that he doesn't even know are there.
I have been away trying to figure out the best way to forget about this guy and get him out of my head for good. (Like I should have done years ago)
I know I need to let go and deal with the whole situation.
I have been reading different thing on the internet on the best way to forget someone and let them go - I finally think I've figured it out.
The guy has always be a bit of a narcissist. I never thought he was that bad, sure he had some of the classic signs but I for what ever reason always chose to explain and justify his behaviour to myself. I just put his behaviour down to his being young, I blamed myself for being too into him. Lots of excuses. Looking more into it now he displays quite a few sociopath traits. Actually more than a few - reading the checklists I swear I thought it was written specifically about him. How the hell did I miss that.
So yeah I'm done. He's gone from my phone and my Facebook. I actually feel so foolish that it's taken me all this time to figure him out. I'm normally great at working out what someone is all about but this one has thrown me. I do however feel like a weight has been lifted and I feel better than I have in a long time.
As for my husband and I, I'm really not sure how it will all work out.
Posted by BlankPage
So yeah what to do? I can't cope with cutting him out my life completely but I know he will always be in my head. I find myself now wondering if staying with my husband is the best idea, not that I would leave in the hope of Scorp Man and I getting back together - I'm not that naive.
But I can't truly be happy if I could cheat on him with my ex ? It's not fair on him.
So any advice? I don't want to go into another round of Scorpio vs Scorpio mind games again - it was bad enough the first time round. Should I just quit all communication and leave it at that?
(Even though his lack of communication will have me desperate to contact him) and hope that 3 months down the line he doesn't start contacting me and we go back to the same old.



This would be "FAIR":
Go ahead and give your husband the heads up that you are going to be utterly consumed with this affair for some time--
That way, he'll have time to get a good lawyer, custody of his kid, and child support.

Idgaf about the success or failure of your affair, though.

(Who does this shit??)
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Posted by BlankPage
So yeah what to do? I can't cope with cutting him out my life completely but I know he will always be in my head. I find myself now wondering if staying with my husband is the best idea, not that I would leave in the hope of Scorp Man and I getting back together - I'm not that naive.
But I can't truly be happy if I could cheat on him with my ex ? It's not fair on him.
So any advice? I don't want to go into another round of Scorpio vs Scorpio mind games again - it was bad enough the first time round. Should I just quit all communication and leave it at that?
(Even though his lack of communication will have me desperate to contact him) and hope that 3 months down the line he doesn't start contacting me and we go back to the same old.



This would be "FAIR":
Go ahead and give your husband the heads up that you are going to be utterly consumed with this affair for some time--
That way, he'll have time to get a good lawyer, custody of his kid, and child support.

Idgaf about the success or failure of your affair, though.

(Who does this shit??)
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There's absolutely no way he would apply for custody. It would take up far too much of his 'me' time.

Did no one even bother to read my update ?
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Posted by BlankPage
.................................. Maybe that was too soon but I did really like him and he was patient enough to wait around until I felt ready. Our relationship was like nothing I had experienced before. No drama, no games just easy and made perfect sense. Things only really started to fall apart once we had out child. The whole dynamic changed.
Anyway I am thinking of deleting this thread now as I have shared far too much already.


What exactly changed after the child? Sex? Closeness to husband?
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His life remained the same but I became a mother. He continues to go to the pub for 2/3 hours every evening after work. He has all day Saturday to himself every week. And 3 out of 4 Sundays he will also go out by himself in the afternoon / evening and leave me to get on with the child care.
Since having our daughter we have lost out closeness. I feel like he doesn't actually enjoy spending time with our family. I feel like we bore him. I also miss having my freedom as I get very, very little time to myself and he gets loads. (We both work full time BTW) I don't think he likes being a father. He would never admit it but I can see it in his eyes. He will do all the fun stuff with her (playing games / building a fort etc).
I have told him how I feel a hundred times. We have had lengthy discussions (usually over a bottle of wine) and things do improve for a few weeks before reverting back. I don't think its too much to ask to spend at least 1 day with your family. And if anyone is wondering it's not that he's young. We are an age gap relationship (21 years). He is in his 50's and I am in my 30's.
When we do get a babysitter and get sometime alone he is just like the way he used to be. He is loving, caring and actually seems happy. I wish he could be like that everyday and not just when we get a night to ourselves.
Posted by Whatu
So whats the point In going into a relationship with the man you cheated with, Its already full of bad energy. Plus he Is likely to think you aren't serious since you are a cheater.
The best thing you can do is tell the sag you cheated, Divorce him because its obvious you do not love him any more. And get the Scorpio man out of your life because the relationship with him will always be toxic and have terrible karma. Be single for like 5 years to figure out what really matters.


I'm not getting into a relationship with the Scorpio. I have removed him from my phone and blocked him on Facebook. I want no further contact with him. I did say that in my previous post.
Posted by BlankPage
I got married, had a kid, bought a house etc and generally moved on. His relationship didn't work out and he is now single. He was (is) always in my thoughts - everyday I still think about him.


3 pages, and once again noone mentions "the kid" smh
She's the one who is fucked. A resentful cheating mother whose stuck with her, and a father who arranges to be away from her.
Another statistic of a failed dysfunctional upbringing.
Disgusting!
Posted by BlankPage
I'm not getting into a relationship with the Scorpio. I have removed him from my phone and blocked him on Facebook. I want no further contact with him. I did say that in my previous post.



Posted by BlankPage
I can't cope with cutting him out my life completely but I know he will always be in my head. I find myself now wondering if staying with my husband is the best idea, not that I would leave in the hope of Scorp Man and I getting back together - I'm not that naive. But I can't truly be happy if I could cheat on him with my ex ? It's not fair on him. (Even though his lack of communication will have me desperate to contact him) and hope that 3 months down the line he doesn't start contacting me and we go back to the same old.

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Contradiction there ^^which amounts to bullshit. Get a divorce, because clearly there isn't a marriage. If there was, NONE of the above would be a thought. Raising a kid in a lie is just as bad as cheating. It's deceptive no matter how you look at it.
How's it a contradiction? You have quoted my posts out of order. I have come to a decision over what to do and I have decided to cut all contact.
I made this decision yesterday and blocked him on Facebook and deleted his number from my phone. I have been looking back over my past relationship with him and the way things have been recently and I can see them in a way I have not been able to before.
The reason I came on here and posted in the first place was that I was finally feeling ready to face up to everything. I haven't spoken to anyone (in RL or online) about what has happened. I don't like to share how I'm feeling with people and I find it particularly difficult to admit when I have messed up. You can think what you like about me. I really don't care.
My child is perfectly happy and very well loved thank you. Her dad might spend a lot of time out if the house but he does love her. He plays with her, reads her stories and gives her plenty of cuddles. He just has a hard time spending a lot of time at home.
And I am not 'stuck' with her. I'm guessing you don't have kids? You don't feel 'stuck' with them. You love them completely and unconditionally in a way that is unexplainable. Yes she has changed my life but I wouldn't swap her for anything. She is the best thing I have ever done in my life. Things with her father and I might not work out but that doesn't mean she will be any less loved or wanted. Broken homes do not always make messed up kids. Plenty of messed up people come from normal 2 parent families.