A Taurus confession of cheating..

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I'd be lying to you

I'd be lying to you
If I told you that I didn't think of it
If I told you that I didn't want
To remember the name of her street
If I told you,
My love, that I didn't feel anything for her,
That I didn't hear any of those things left unsaid
That I didn't smile to her silences

I'd be lying to you
I'd be lying to you

Quick, I'm falling!
Will you be watching me ?
Will you be down there
To take me someplace I don't know
Someplace I don't go to ?
So, quick, I'm falling
Like a stringless puppet
Too free and too fragile
I look for your hand in the clouds
To dispel her image


I'd be lying to you
If I told you to your face
That you've no reason to shed any tears
That this girl is just a fling in my life
I'd be lying to you
And yet, I've been lying to me
For believing we were so safe
For picturing us stronger than life

But no one knows
About those things

Quick, I'm falling!
Will you be down there ?
Will you be waiting for me
To take me someplace I don't know,
To lead me back to you ?
So, quick, I'm falling like a stringless puppet
Our unfolding story
I look for your hand in the clouds
To stop me from turning the page

I'd be lying to you
But who else could I tell
Without, this time, really betraying you ?
Silence is sometimes worse

Quick, I'm falling
Will you be down there ?
Will you pick me up
To take me someplace I don't know,
To lead me back to you ?
So, quick, I'm falling
Like a dead bird
Shot there, through the heart
And who's still wondering
Why did he come round her.

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Interesting song.

I think it gives a more narrative description than just entertaining the possibility of infidelity.
There seems to be an emotional disconnection between him and his spouse...
Despite how strong their marriage appeared on the surface, he felt a non sexual connection with someone outside of their marriage.
I think, this is perhaps a wake-up call to address the issues in their marriage.
Subconsciously, he wants his wife to be aware of this, his thoughts, his emotions, his feelings.
A motivation...
To prevent him from straying.
He wants to use this experience
To bring it back to the start.
Where the emotions were more stabilized, more concrete.

At times we may feel a connection towards someone besides our spouse. The connection may be non-sexual.
It allows us to re-examine the stance, level of communication and disconnection we're experiencing with our partners.

I do not condone infidelity, but I do know how if feels to be conflicted...to feel a strong connection with someone else, especially if the connection is cosmic, non-sexual...it's not as readily dismissive as a temporary hedonistic connection.

But the determined persistence to make the current relationship work seems to take precedence every time.

Bulls form unbreakable bonds with people. Loyalty is forever with us. So I can understand the ambiguous internal conflict.

Communication (for some Bulls) can also be quite challenging when it comes to expressing the matters of the heart, thus, making their partners none the wiser.

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Omg TaurusBull1977, you reached the other side and turned into a Virgo o.o

Let me resuscitate you 😄

I see that also but what gets to me is the fucking silence. I am oblivious to that...please come and verbalize it or make it clear in some way or another.

The thing that would get me in this scenario is me standing next to my partner and not having the slightest idea he's no longer there with me..his mind and soul have drifted to another. It would kill me and I can easily see it happen because I never pick up on the subtle.
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Yes Damnata...

My Virgo robot has me examining situations from a more abstract persepctive. 🙂

I'm completely transformed. (lol)

I experienced this dilemma in past relationships.
I would fight tooth and nail to hold on to a relationship, being fiercely loyal but very unhappy.
I never communicated my dissatifaction in a relationship, and did experience connections (that were non-sexual) with other people.
The connections were simplistic.
A brush on the back.
A sympathetic and understanding ear.
The ability to put me at ease.
The ability to understand me.

What this lead to?
Inner turmoil, resentment towards my partner at the time, but the inability to let go.
And yet, I would over-obssess about the other individual...
Putting me in a temporary safe haven, I guess.
No sexual relations.
No romantic relations.

I demonstrated subtle gestures to my romantic partner at the time.
Hoping it would scream "YOU'RE ABOUT TO LOSE ME....DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!."
My feelings were fading.
But I was hoping they would remain intact.
But, unfortunately fell on deaf ears....
Fading.
Fading.
Fading.

My current level of communication has improved greatly.
Unfortunately in the past, it resulted in two extremes.
Barking and being too simplistic, cruel and aggressive (blame it on my Venus in Aries).
Or walking on eggshells to communicate my stance (blame it on my Mercury in Taurus).

Now it's at the right equilibrium. 🙂


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The walking on eggshells..I'd never get it. Please bark at me and be simplistic.

We Virgo robots are a joy to behold though.

With me, it's clear where I'm at and you will see it in my eyes if the relationship ran its course, but more often than not I will tell you straight up. I make it a point to do that exactly because I suck at hints.

I've been through phases also..I tend to crush a lot but I always brought it forth to my partners..not in a "You're about to lose me kind of way" but "Look, I like this thing about this person. Can we incorporate that? Or let's talk about it?"...I should've shut up though.

Last New Year's Eve..I was at a party with my Aries ex. I am loyal to my core but sometimes I get lost into how interesting someone else is so my gaze turns affectionate towards them. He caught that in a blink..when I glanced at my Taurus friend.

"You were looking at him with a "What if?" type of gaze.."
"Yeah, I care about him a lot"

It's weird, people complain a lot about Aries and jealousy and possesiveness but I never ran into that with them. I could always count on being extremely honest..and they always knew I was just playing scenarios in my mind..with no intention of straying. They's laugh and leave me to it. When someone really trusts you...a lot of freedom you never knew before starts unfolding before your eyes.
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^^^^

I guess despite many similarities, Earth + Earth can still be quite challenging.
With my Virgo, it was tough at first.
The mututable + fixed combination had me riled up.
I simply wanted to take him, put him in headlock, and just scream...
"WHO ARE YOU, REALLY?"
Stop changing, you're confusing the sh&t out of me!
Those multitude of poker faces drove me crazy.
Uncertainty makes me very uncomfortable.

But I was quite direct with him.
A little fiesty, but not overbearing.
I'm quite firm.
I understood this was just a part of his personality.
Pretty much, we simply just adjusted to each other's personality traits.

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Uncertainty makes me uncomfortable also but it's all about getting *THERE*.

That's all that matters. I struggle a lot with Taurus folks..

They find me random and weird and this randomness => she cannot be trusted.

While I find them stern and judgemental and I'm scared when they just stand there and look at me. I feel like a child who's scolded..and I can't tell if they're affectionate or seriously don't like me.

I really think this could work but maybe a lot of it is circumstantial. I think I scare them away though 😢
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I do not condone infidelity, but I do know how if feels to be conflicted...to feel a strong connection with someone else, especially if the connection is cosmic, non-sexual...it's not as readily dismissive as a temporary hedonistic connection.

But the determined persistence to make the current relationship work seems to take precedence every time.

Bulls form unbreakable bonds with people. Loyalty is forever with us. So I can understand the ambiguous internal conflict.

Communication (for some Bulls) can also be quite challenging when it comes to expressing the matters of the heart, thus, making their partners none the wiser.



Wow....I could not have put it better - everything you said. I couldn't tell if you were talking about my life or that song for a second. Please consider becoming my personal guru.
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you find us stern and judgmental? 😢



It's the silence and it's my issue probably.
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Silent people are just intimidating, period. If you're a nervous ninny Virgo, you are going to want to scramble to fill that empty space, then the bull will pick up on your nervousness. I get intimidated myself when someone is more quiet than I am; you feel judged by them. Its kind of annoying actually and I tend not to spend too much time around people that are very silent. I feel like I'm trying to entertain them out of their silence.

Folks that are too silent, and folks that don't fake a laugh both kill me. If I tell a corny joke to break the ice for both of our sakes, and I'm laughing myself, go ahead and fake a laugh for me. Join with me in this strange social custom that evolved to build trust and release tension between strangers. We'll both feel better afterwards, I promise. Another reason I'm fond of Leos; they are always down to give a fake laugh. They just want you to see their big toothy grin though.
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Damnata,

The video you shared is sentimental but yes that is when A Taurus meets the eye of a Scorpio.

They act more and speak less..The communications is a problem unless Bull will do the

first move 'cause Scorpio won't do that and we just bury the feelings till we forget.

When bull meets Scorpio,,, they feel connected. It's hard to describe but most Taureans I've met

along my way says.. I am their "soulmate". lol and I kept running.. but they are good provider.
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Damnata,

The video you shared is sentimental but yes that is when A Taurus meets the eye of a Scorpio.

They act more and speak less..The communications is a problem unless Bull will do the

first move 'cause Scorpio won't do that and we just bury the feelings till we forget.

When bull meets Scorpio,,, they feel connected. It's hard to describe but most Taureans I've met

along my way says.. I am their "soulmate". lol and I kept running.. but they are good provider.




LOL, be honest. You've felt it too. Its not just about the "provider" nonsense.
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You're so full of bullshit.

Maybe he never cheated with his body...I took it as cheating with his mind a thousand times, drifting elsewhere.



I agree that its a type of unfaithfulness, but don't we all struggle in our minds/hearts from time to time? I think its alot harder to control how we feel than how we act. And if you haven't experienced this, isn't it highly concievable? I assume that anyone I'm in a relationship with over time, will eventually run into someone seemingly more charming, charismatic, intelligent, attractive, etc. than I am, and experience some sort of tension or pull in their direction. I think the key is how you respond to it. What value is loyalty if it isn't really stretched or tested at some time? Overall, this poor bull seems to be crying out for help, and feeling guilty.

All of that is not even to mention unseen factors influencing chemistry - with all of this astrological nonsense going on, our lives seemingly being pulled in different directions by an array of cosmic energies and forces in constant flux, the likelihood of running into someone that you share some really magnetic aspects with, etc.
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You're so full of bullshit.

Maybe he never cheated with his body...I took it as cheating with his mind a thousand times, drifting elsewhere.



I agree that its a type of unfaithfulness, but don't we all struggle in our minds/hearts from time to time? I think its alot harder to control how we feel than how we act. And if you haven't experienced this, isn't it highly concievable? I assume that anyone I'm in a relationship with over time, will eventually run into someone seemingly more charming, charismatic, intelligent, attractive, etc. than I am, and experience some sort of tension or pull in their direction. I think the key is how you respond to it. What value is loyalty if it isn't really stretched or tested at some time? Overall, this poor bull seems to be crying out for help, and feeling guilty.

All of that is not even to mention unseen factors influencing chemistry - with all of this astrological nonsense going on, our lives seemingly being pulled in different directions by an array of cosmic energies and forces in constant flux, the likelihood of running into someone that you share some really magnetic aspects with, etc.
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Oh yeah, the poor poor bull. LOL

But yes, I agree. However..I hope people are more than bodies acting on impulse and actually are capable of reason so they can choose.

Drifting away feels natural, stepping outside a relationship is WRONG.
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Oh yeah, the poor poor bull. LOL

But yes, I agree. However..I hope people are more than bodies acting on impulse and actually are capable of reason so they can choose.

Drifting away feels natural, stepping outside a relationship is WRONG.



I think there's free will, and we're all accountable for our decisions to a degree, but where we're limited in our judgment is that we can't assess the degree to which a person feels subjectively tempted. Consider a highly attractive person whose chart inclines them towards impulsively seeking new experience, excitement, sexual passion, etc. - e.g. they are an Aries or something...lol. Perhaps such a person struggles with feeling a temptation to cheat several times daily, and they have given in from time to time. Is it possible, in theory, that this person actually fights more of a moral battle against unfaithfulness, than someone with a basically faithful nature, who is seldom tempted? I think so, and thus who actually is *better* at being faithful, given their circumstances? I think it is worth considering....Considerations like that certainly make me think twice about judging others actions too harshly.
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TLS...I had that kind of pull with a Scorpio, the one I mentioned. Like really, really strong. Only time in my life I ever thought I was going delusional. Think perfect Aries-Libra opposition in our charts, my moon and mars to his moon and venus.

If I had a boyfriend and he appeared at my door, I wouldn't do it.

Not bringing morality in this..way too relative a concept. And subjectivity only goes as far as you allow it.

Trust me I see all the angles but if someone steps out...it's of no use to rationalize anything.

No one is better in the scenario you mentioned. Think of how women now think a guy is awesome when he opens doors for them..a gentleman should do that regardless but it's happening less and less...so we're amazed when that shit happens. It's all perspective, as is the "better" mindset. We all indulge in it.

What I liked about this song was the emphasis on silence and the subtle things. It really rang Taurus to me.
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TLS...I had that kind of pull with a Scorpio, the one I mentioned. Like really, really strong. Only time in my life I ever thought I was going delusional. Think perfect Aries-Libra opposition in our charts, my moon and mars to his moon and venus.

If I had a boyfriend and he appeared at my door, I wouldn't do it.

Not bringing morality in this..way too relative a concept. And subjectivity only goes as far as you allow it.

Trust me I see all the angles but if someone steps out...it's of no use to rationalize anything.

No one is better in the scenario you mentioned. Think of how women now think a guy is awesome when he opens doors for them..a gentleman should do that regardless but it's happening less and less...so we're amazed when that shit happens. It's all perspective, as is the "better" mindset. We all indulge in it.

What I liked about this song was the emphasis on silence and the subtle things. It really rang Taurus to me.



"Morality" is such a taboo word these days, not sure why when everyone uses it implicitly. I think you brought it into things when you described going outside the relationship as "WRONG". That's morality; call it ethics if you like. I think any ethical theory will admit some degree of relativity, but even in relativistic ethics, there is still "right" and "wrong", they are just relative to various factors (pre-existent moral and cultural frameworks, etc.). Anyway, I agree with your position ultimately and would do the same if my Scorp crush showed up.

In the scenario I gave, to say no one is better, still grants the point I was making, that outward actions aren't always the relevant factor in ethical considerations. I think it applies in alot of situations - a person with a severe social anxiety disorder and fear of public speaking *might* be more brave (or *as* brave) to raise his hand in class, than the world's greatest leader or speaker. Its hard to assess what he's up against internally.

Also - men holding the door for you are sometimes doing so, to watch your ass as you walk through. I see the southern "gentleman" in the state I currently live in, doing this often.

Sorry...I drank too much coffee and am working from home and in philosophical contrarian mode....LOL.
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Yeah, the "wrong" wasn't the best term. You Virgo you 😛

Also yes on the internal battle. But like I always say to people who are smart and never open their mouth (I seriously hate that)...please share your intelligence with the world. We all gain something by interacting.

Yes, the Aries did that to check my ass..he told me straight up. It was so funny

Oh but I love philosophical contrarian mode..indulge me further. It's interesting when a Taurus stops the grazing and drops some real shit.
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Yeah, the "wrong" wasn't the best term. You Virgo you 😛

Also yes on the internal battle. But like I always say to people who are smart and never open their mouth (I seriously hate that)...please share your intelligence with the world. We all gain something by interacting.

Yes, the Aries did that to check my ass..he told me straight up. It was so funny

Oh but I love philosophical contrarian mode..indulge me further. It's interesting when a Taurus stops the grazing and drops some real shit.



All of this agreement and flattery....You are well on your way to roping a bull...lol.
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So I already fail. You tease.



Hahahaha....I'm kidding. You're fine. I think bulls generally love Virgos and vice versa. Its a good match for friendship and romance. I think its important for a bull to feel like the woman he is with is essentially a good person and Virgos have that down. The faithfulness is there, we both like nature, bulls love a girl who is a smartypants, humorous, etc. Virgos are also really capable people; usually excel wherever you put them, aim to please, will handle the details of life that we are too lazy to care about (like anything involving paperwork and whatnot)....You folks are great. Find yourself a bull with alot of air or fire and you should be good.
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Posted by Damnata
The air won't work. The fire would 😄

I find it so unfair you give lots of pointers to Scorpio chicks but so few to Virgo chicks. It hurts my feelz.

If I master the broody look will you help me also?



AAAHAHHAHA....Very cute. Playing the cute card, flattery, agreement, in need of a guru....All this will fare well for you on your hunt. LOL. Show me broody in your next profile pic and I will let you know if it motivates me.

Blame whoever rigged the zodiac for this Scorp thing. LOL. Seriously though, I've found most Scorps don't listen to advice, especially when the advice you give is contrary to their nature. I admit that there definitely is a challenge factor there that makes their skepticism and stubbornness attractive, in the short-term at least.
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TLS,

Yes I felt it too. lol. Because those bulls are pursuers.. I didn't insist myself

they insist themselves until I began to feel that love you called...lol. Scorpios don't give love

easily and we are not Stubborn... just too strong for Bulls to handle. Once the relationship is

broken... get up and bounce harder than it was.

So what bulls should do when you won the heart of a Scorpio?

"Handle us with extra care"

and you are funny still daydreaming the Scorpio Lady at work.. Stop Daydreaming. Get up man and Spit

it out! or Go sleep and chase your dreams until you wake up and dream again...lol

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