ascendant signs

how do you feel your ascendant changes your personality? do you relate at all with how the world is "supposed" to see you in comparison to your sun sign? do you like your ascendant? more or less than your sun sign?

I don't know what mine is. 😢

i think it's pisces 😛 maybe that's just my wishful thinking hehe
i think in the u.s. if you know what hospitol you were born at they can give you a birth time? either that or you can purchase another birth certificate from the department of health (i've had to do this a couple of times! i lose track of things semi-frequently and always needed it for sports)
i guess what sparked this is my sun and venus are tau, but my asc and moon are aries and i really feel torn because of it... i'm always wanting love and affection, but at the same time, there's a certain part of me that needs extreme independance.... i'm beginning to think a lot if not all of my relationships are suffering as a result, but i just don't know how to settle the inner conflict

Virgo rising SUCKS (me)! Well combined with all that water...it doesn't help!
I wish I was Libra rising...they are the beautiful people!


Rising Sign is in 19 Degrees Virgo

You tend to be very shy and not very self-assertive.(NOT) You are supercritical about how you appear to others.(DEFINITELY) Even though you may think you are uninteresting and dull, you are actually quite soft- spoken, orderly, and neat. (NOT) You are a perfectionist with high standards, and at times you can be quite tactless in pointing out the faults of others.(YES YES YES) Very practical, efficient and purposeful, your appearance and bearing reflect your need to appear graceful, sensible and reserved. (SOMETIMES) You have a crisp, no-nonsense approach to dealing with others. Never lazy or self-indulgent, you tend to be dedicated to the work ethic. (THIS IS SOOOO ME, I can't not be the best at a job or not finish it once I start but I suck @ doing housework)

CL

here's what it said for mine
Rising Sign is in 11 Degrees Sagittarius
You are known for being open, frank, outgoing and honest. At times, though, you are also blunt and quite indiscreet. Others have to learn not to take everything you say personally, because you usually do not mean any harm. You appreciate living your life in a straightforward and simple manner -- you dislike social niceties and consider them to be hindrances to real communication. You have lots and lots of energy and tend to become quite restless if you feel confined. You demand the freedom to do as you choose -- you must be self- directed or you feel trapped and anxious. With your abundant energy, you enjoy being outdoors, and you should be attracted to physical exercise or to those forms of sport which can help you burn off some of that excess energy. Very gregarious, you love to socialize -- your innate enthusiasm livens up any gathering.

(i think it's pretty disgusting that i know all of the astrology sites enough to use the same birthchart generator to have a same comparison haha)

here's one with them all:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/risingsignsascendant.html

23 degrees sagittarius for cafe astrology.Basically says im a little spaz with too much enthusiasm and hope.It works for me.Only it does somewhat effect my actual personality,just in the negative brooding traits of a scorpio will be overdriven by the sag happy stuff and the sluttiness and dimwittedness of the sag will be confined and thought through by the scorpio part.

I look at venus and mars first for compatibility guide. When your guys said somewhere that moon and rising sign are important, I found I have moon in pisces and aquarius rising. And now ascendant...I don't know mine. Supposed ascendant and rising are the same thing.

AQURIUS RISING by Sydney Omarr
Charismatic and individualistic. You know how to get attention, sometimes in a startling way that shakes everyone up. Dress to please yoursdself -- never mind the dress code. Be sure to find a business that appreciates your eccentric side, one with a cause or principles you believe . You make your own rules. You know what's best for you. Your job should give you plenty of space and allow you to work independently.

Hmm...I have all of these traits in me but not sure it's because sun in taurus or aqua rising. :-)
Let say outside I'm have taurus traits but inside I'm a bit rebellious and original. It's a perfect blend though.

What annoying me is a clash between venus in Aries and sun in Taurus. I don't initiate but the feeling is burning hot inside and urges me to take risk.

maymaid

Scorpio Ascendant

"Scorpio Ascendant people have a lot of presence. There is something about them that tells the world that they are not to be pushed around."

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"They seem to look right through people, seeing through superficiality. This can be quite intimidating to some, and intriguing to others. Scorpio rising people, in their dealings with others, look for answers by reading between the lines. Surface details are discarded when they are getting a feel for people and situations around them. "

Yup. Simple look at them will give me almost all information about their fears. Their fast eye movements, fear of eye contact, restlessness and sometimes shaking hands, fluctuations is voice tone....all gives information about what does person feel near you.

"Scorpio rising people value their privacy so much, it can border on paranoia. They have a strong need to control their environment and are experts at strategy."

I'm paranoia with enviroument. Even sounds coming from outside is disturbing me (not joking).

Hey,haffo,what about when your dealing with a scorpio?We will avoid eye contact because we're too expressive through the eyes.We know the eyes can tell all as to weaknesses and strengths and don't like to ideal of people knowing that we are as sensitive and vulnerable as we actually are when it comes to the heart.

Or in otherwords do you kinda pick that up from some scorpios.And what are your thoughts on it?Good,bad,understandable.

I had a few experiences with Scorpios. The ones I've met was actually funny people. Yes they were "dont puch me around" or "dont fuck with me" looking people, but when it was speaking with me, they were very friendly. I do find easy to relate with Scorpios but sometimes they should learn to control their feelins otherwise even I feel irritated by their behaviours. The compatibility in thoughts are almost 90% LOL. The way of thought also similair in many ways. They are the most compatible people after another Pisces.

Virgo ascendant, sun in taurus, moon in scorpio, venus in aries and I am female. Interesting lil combo I have, eh?
Thanks for everyone's input to my Taurus/Libra dilemma. Perhaps I will share more details at a later date.
Well, one lil piece of info about it I will divulge right now. Why would a libra male chose to stay in a situation that is not what he is looking for and is illogical? The situation is a girl of a ripe age of 25, having children by two different men, just recently divorced one of them and back home with mommie and daddy (not saying that is bad we all hve had to do it at 1 time or another) because since she was 17 knows nothing else but wife/motherhood.
What a mouthful, over me, a successful, beautiful, competitive athlete, no children, no baggage, have my own place and the passion between the two of us is something I have never experienced before. Time has no meaning at that moment. He says it is not any serious than it was before yet he stays. He obviously does not want her, keeps coming back for me. Can't seem to let me go out of his life. Now we are speaking again yet not that much because I will not get back into that past situation nor have we seen each other in 10 weeks. If he wants me like he says he does, wants to see me, spend time with me then he knows what he has to do. I told him.
My longwinded question is what is your take at the quick overview of my dilemma. I obviously have deep feelings for him like most taureans do when, well... in love.

" And now ascendant...I don't know mine. Supposed ascendant and rising are the same thing."
yah you are right ascendant and rising are two words for same directive

"Let say outside I'm have taurus traits but inside I'm a bit rebellious and original. It's a perfect blend though."
it's kind of interesting how i feel the same way, but supposedly it should be the other way around (at least according to the definition of ascendant, it's supposedly the way the world sees us, the tint of our sun sign sunglasses) there have been times when i have acted like a big a-hole unwittingly, and after analyzing it hindsight proved that it was actually a sag fault of my own which the whole issue boiled down to (i don't like to be tied down for example, a lot of my friends don't understand this and get hurt when i go off and do my own thing... i had a sagittarian friend actually get very upset at me when i eloped to the opposite coast a while back-- he didn't understand that i hadn't even really told anyone about it, but he was still hurt nonetheless when i tried to explain, we got drunk the night b4 i left and it all came out) these are the kind of the frustrations i've been dealing with, the inner conflict is so hard to supress sometimes for me... i can't feel comfortable for weeks at a time in some bad cases... i have a tendancy to avoid people when i don't feel like dealing with things also, it just leads to more frustration because if i stay i'm even more uncomfortable and if i go i'll be taking flak later on and having to deal with it tenfold over
another one of my really good friends from school is a scorpio, and he's literally one of the most welcoming people i've ever met-- and i can tell he's got the same issue with me-- i'm just here one day and gone the next, and i think people get thrown a big screwball by me because of it: when i'm there i'm a stable and attentive taurus, but then i'll randomly vanish because i don't feel like dealing with what i don't want to do...
anyway, i guess i'm finished my venting/rant for now 🙂

the background was a bit hard to follow for me, but it sounds a lot like some of the other stories people have posted-- i personally wouldn't tolerate that kind of situation... i think it's anyone's right, that wants it, to have a loyal and devoted relationship...
i'm pretty dissapointed in the state of the world and the amount of promiscuity that goes around anyway... i think women have just as much right as men to demand and expect loyalty from serious relationships

lil-t-aurus

I think because Libras like to take things and fix them up so to speak...They love a challenge and she presents more of a challenge than you. Also if you are better looking than her and he is not "more beautiful" than you...he will more than likely always choose her.

It's the ugly duckling syndrome I guess, but the Libra's I know HAVE to be the best looking one in the couple.(my gay male friend actually came out and admitted it) They usually date someone who they see as "uglier" than them. Like I said before though, this is just with the Libra's that I know...including the one I was obssessed with for 2 years! I would be like WHY does he keep getting these BEASTS when he could have me? Oh well, que cera cera...

CL

And I agree, I do not tolerate it either but as far as 100% walking away, we have known each other a long time and that is very hard thing to do but as long as they are still together, he and I can't even be friends which is upseting to me. I would love to go back and work on our friendship. I miss spending time with him and he with me as well. We are so much alike. Just something tells me there is something there and in time it will reveal itself. Hard to explain but I know this. It is such a strong feeling. Since I am so busy I only seem to dwell more on it when I have down time like the past week or so. I am learning patience, it is such a hard word to define within oneself. They say a taurean trait...I say not.

I think that would be aries in your emotions area effecting that impatience.However scorpios are great at showing no emotion when it's a plot,so you can also at least act like you are patient which will be over the head of a libra.Yeah maybe the scorps intuition but still maybe obession and desire thats making it hard to let go.Anyway just a reminder,can't judge a book by the cover so I wouldn't assume im better than this other girl.Libras are emotional,they just act like thier not due to they are logical.They know emotions can get them in trouble and make them vulnerable.Im kinda the opposite of you im a scorpio with taurus moon tricky little fun ain't it.Trying to figure out okay this is taurus,this is scorpio,guess at least it's said when you learn your polar opposites abilities your set and balenced out.For a scorpio they transform into an eagle when that happens,because it's seeing all of it(taurus patience,light,sometimes only surface beauty side)rather than just the darker emotions and probbing the hidden side to life.

Both of you, Tiamat and Cancerlady have valid points. Been told both of her presenting more of a challenge and possiby me a lil obsessed. Didnt know bout the ugly duckling syndrome though that is interesting. Yet he calls me beautiful all the time, everytime we communicate, phone or text.
I do know her and well I might add. She seems nice, doesn't say much at all. She is very 'high school' in the way she handles everything, their relationship especially. I remember something he told me in the past when he is serious in a relationship he is faithful. Hence, he is not serious in this relationship with her.
The only issue is he brings her and the kids round his family and to his church. Did I mention he's a pastors' son? His family have issues with the kids and so does he. He told me before the first time they broke up, that it was the kids then later before I left the last time it was the kids he has fallen for so... which is it?
I think indecisiveness is a key in this whole thing and yes, fixing her up plus he's in so deep now he doesn't want to hurt her feelings so he is waiting for what? Her to leave again, I think. That's easier, remember lazy libra.
I do think he has feelings for her but not strong enough to commit. Besides right now his life has been turned upside down and he had to move home as well as of very recently. So he lives 45 min from her, at his parents house and she at her parents house. So when do they have time for any alone time? Remember, the kids. She works a lil part time job and he works all the time, heavy lifting, etc. He lost a really good paying job which is all he knew. Things are changing, dynamics have changed so whats next?? I am wondering how this will all pan out. Personally, I think it makes for an interesting read which I am considering indulging in.

Just a thought.

Okay,face value doesn't count as anything.Don't put it past a libra to stretch/lie to spare peoples feelings.Some will cheat and play innocent as to not get a bad rep(social,gossip)if thier the ones with more negative traits of the sign.It could be you he's trying to avoid hurting.Probe at stuff and out that possiblity as well.Suspect that he may be lying and/or isn't worth your time because he's too superficial to be that concerned with what people think of him.The kids is always a excuse for cheaters who don't really want to leave.The people who are usually made out to be the bad guy is sometimes the truely innocent ones who are also being played.

Tiamat you are wise...I know he does not like anyone to 'know his business'. He hates gossip. Superficial you say, hmm...playing the kids, now thats odd wouldn't you say? Why would he not want to leave a situation he does not want to be in? It's all so confusing but I do know because of all the mess he has put himself in lately, job, the move home, evicted, sell his car, etc...he sounds humbled a bit when I speak to him but I think he needs to hit bottom for him to fully recognize his true being. Don't we all need to hit bottom at one time or another? I have hope for him. I do believe people can change, I did. No matter what happens I do hope the best for him no matter what has happened in the past.
We are texting each other right now, just good night stuff nothing too interesting. I try to keep it light nothing emotional at all. Thanks again for all the input, I do appreciate it alot.

Lil taurus/crystal tears could jump in too.Nothing to do with the kids and exactly,if he didn't want to be there he wouldn't be.The possibilty of wanting his cake and eat it too thing behind that one.Red flag"I don't want to be here"cheating usually the results happen fast.And the oops messed up one night,I understand more.At this point im just going with you saying your game to debate and im bugging you out of curiousity/shouldn't be considered anything to do with whats going on with you and him.Nothing to do with the signs thing either.Because I don't understand ongoing cheating to no avail.Everybody gets hurt and nobodys feelings is no less important than anyone elses feelings.Seems to be a we're cheating but this person is the bad guy stuff.Wouldn't you be pissed if someone you were involved with cheated on you constantly?Have you been cheated on?If so sucks don't it?Whats the motivation to atomatically accuse someone else?Why hate/dislike someone because you are in a relationship with thier man?They didn't do you wrong in any way shape or form,why the anomosity/negativity towards them?(well unless they found out then maybe)Is it jealousy,that you think they have more than you?Jealousy because ah,thier package played with someone else besides you and still could be playing?Do you think you would deserve it if you were on the flip side?Is it like a martyr type thing that you feel when these guys tell you this stuff?Whats the deal people?Why is it okay for you but not other people to do it to you?Everyone should be equally viewed when it comes to this stuff.

Taurus Woman with Cancer Rising..Both Love Hard and Deep. Loyal to a fault and when we hurt we hurt QUBED!!!!
So think of living with these traits SQUARED!!

An Emotional MESS!!!

Okay tiamat, I see your point as to the cheating and I wholeheartedly agree which is why I will not be put in that situation again and yes she did know, I told her last year. Thats another long story but I was b4 her in all this business then she appeared and then it goes on but she came back for him after she was told of our affair. So no one is really right in this situation. If anything, we are probably all wrong. The only thing I am wishing for is to be granted another re-do but on new terms; friendship, needs to be worked on first.
Just need to evaluate the whole situation for myself, need to see if I was wrong about all of it or even right about some of it. I don't think it is going to be so quickly done hence the need for patience. I will not force the situation at all. Even though her and I do not like each other, I have grown to have some respect for her and their relationship which makes me a much better person than I was before. Funny how it works but since I left this last time, and surrounded myself with more positive things/people, I have grown more positive and happier. Thus life has turned for the better for me. My heart still has unfinished business and if all I gain is a friend than so be it that is a blessing of its own.
But there is some reason why no matter what goes down or how bad it falls, we end up together still can't put my finger on it but no matter how much advice I try to get it all comes down to one thing, I am gonna have to find out for myself. Something is going on, just not sure what...yet.
I apologize if I offended anyone with the only dramatic area of my life, especially you, Tiamat. I will spare everyone with any more talk of it all. On a different note, I was married to an Aries man, now that is definitely a situation that just should not have happened.

Not offended honestly,no point too beyond thats how I already see it,never been cheated on but can imagine how it'd be.Im curious to whats behind the urge to blame to other person when the person you should be mad at might be getting thier kicks off watching the two fight or dislike each other.Seems kinda like a power trip for the guys/girls doing the cheating in the situations,curious to know the whys that it's not directed at them.Is it like a overpowered by emotions,getting blindsided through love,etc.

Honestly lil taurus,I kinda figured you'd post something like that too,so I guess you don't really count for this questioning also.So don't worry about it,theres been a bit of a routine of stuff in regards to ongoing cheating that leaves people used more than anything else.Trying to understand whats behind it for them to not suspect that thier being lied and used.Some of the things mentioned like the jealousy stuff,the guy could still be sleeping with thier wife stuff seems to be over thier heads and they would prefer to think he's innocent,maybe like a ignorance is bliss type vibe getting from them.

Tiamat, I am as much to blame as he. Yes but at the time when you are in the whole triangle thing, you are blinded by love/emotions and you dont want to believe it is really happening. Weird too, but a little competition/jealousy, between us females? Which leaves who to blame...the women blame the other. Evil temptresses, etc...yet the only really at fault, well, all of us. Me for being okay with the situation and continuing to stay in it and not respecting their relationship as she did not respect ours cuz of my low self esteem at that time. Her for being warned over and over and over plus thinking selfishly and leaving her husband, father and acting father for the older child, for him and returning to him again her low self esteem probably still since her situation has not changed. She taking easy way in life looking for a provider instead of becoming a provider for her & children. then there is him for preying on weak women who are in a vulnerable state and are easy prey. Makes him feel better to fix someone else up because of his low self esteem issues He is stildue to the loss of a good job that is all he's known before that well he suffered from man-itis, young.
You see we are all suffering from the same thing. I am the only one though who has moved forward. I do have compassion for him due to our past relationship and the feelings I still do have and a big heart full of forgiveness for anyone. Human does not equate perfect even if all we taureans strive for something damn close to it.
I am not as naive as u might think...well aware of everyone's potential, just won't stand for another regression not anymore.

Fair enough,Thanks,thats kinda why I said it shouldn't apply to you.Because of the original post that wasn't so sure about getting back with him.Tauruses aren't good at lieing or telling people what they want to hear so figured I'd bug you for an honest answer.Also was a bit confused because they don't allow themselves to be victems that much.Thanks again for the new view on things.