Posted by AgentP911Hmm I don’t think it has anything to do with being a good match or not. Dude needs to see a professional immediately. He won’t be a “good match” for anyone until he gets help.
Frankly, just reading all of that was very tiring to me. The most concerning thing is that you’re actually living this!
You know when something really isn’t a good idea? Well that’s you two being together. It’s hard work. You don’t match. There’s far too many issues. What’s the point? Why do you want all this bullshit drama?
How old are you both? Early 20’s?
Posted by FknNerdHe does need help. He is manipulative and is an emotional abuser.
One more thing, if he does see a psychologist, the psychologist is just going to suggest that he leaves you. The psychologist is going to look at him and say, "I've been happily married for 10 years and I've never had to deal with the issues that you're dealing with this woman. When the person is right for you, you dont feel how you're feeling" I promise you. I've had many psychs growing up.
Posted by FknNerdYou know, there’s a reason why you’re the only person on this thread not saying he needs help...Posted by missmissyYeah waste $ 90+ on a therapy session then come back here and tell me I'm right.Posted by FknNerdHe does need help. He is manipulative and is an emotional abuser.
One more thing, if he does see a psychologist, the psychologist is just going to suggest that he leaves you. The psychologist is going to look at him and say, "I've been happily married for 10 years and I've never had to deal with the issues that you're dealing with this woman. When the person is right for you, you dont feel how you're feeling" I promise you. I've had many psychs growing up.
OP don’t listen to any of this. None of this is your fault.click to expand
Posted by missmissyI was thinking the same thing as you @missmissyPosted by FknNerdYou know, there’s a reason why you’re the only person on this thread not saying he needs help...Posted by missmissyYeah waste $ 90+ on a therapy session then come back here and tell me I'm right.Posted by FknNerdHe does need help. He is manipulative and is an emotional abuser.
One more thing, if he does see a psychologist, the psychologist is just going to suggest that he leaves you. The psychologist is going to look at him and say, "I've been happily married for 10 years and I've never had to deal with the issues that you're dealing with this woman. When the person is right for you, you dont feel how you're feeling" I promise you. I've had many psychs growing up.
OP don’t listen to any of this. None of this is your fault.
We can’t all be wrong.click to expand
Posted by edgelordPeople who are like this aren’t “triggered”. This is just how they are. Like everyone keeps saying this has nothing to do with OP. He is going to have this issue with any and everyone. How did she trigger him by her FRIEND dancing with someone else?Posted by FknNerdImo neither of them is good for each other. The relationship itself is toxic. She triggers the shit out of his insecurities and instead of trying to work with him she’s just like “lulz”
I mean during ww2 most germans were nazis so they must have been right in their thinking. Missmissy logic.click to expand
Posted by edgelordMy god. This how victim blaming starts.Posted by FknNerdIt’s funny to me because she spends he entire massive wall of text tearing him down talking about how crazy he is yet she’s still here wanting him back. So why demonize the man you love? Makes me wonder what else she’s leaving out that she’s done to create these episodes. But really she’s not ms innocent either.Posted by edgelordYeah I cant stand people like this and then she continues to chase him down. Wouldnt be surprised if she stills stalks him outside of his place of work a year from now. Okay I might be projecting lol.Posted by FknNerdImo neither of them is good for each other. The relationship itself is toxic. She triggers the shit out of his insecurities and instead of trying to work with him she’s just like “lulz”
I mean during ww2 most germans were nazis so they must have been right in their thinking. Missmissy logic.click to expand
Posted by LDM90God, he is so petty sometimes. When he starts arguments over something small it'll eventually grow into something large and he'll start criticizing me. He constantly had something negative to say to me. For example, he would always say how I'm the best he's ever had, how great the sex is, blah blah blah, but when he would get upset he would say how bad it was or just anything negative. He called my best friend to talk about things and he got mad and then said to her how I'm the laziest person ever. The fuck?Posted by edgelordPeople who are like this aren’t “triggered”. This is just how they are. Like everyone keeps saying this has nothing to do with OP. He is going to have this issue with any and everyone. How did she trigger him by her FRIEND dancing with someone else?Posted by FknNerdImo neither of them is good for each other. The relationship itself is toxic. She triggers the shit out of his insecurities and instead of trying to work with him she’s just like “lulz”
I mean during ww2 most germans were nazis so they must have been right in their thinking. Missmissy logic.
Insecurities and instability do not start and end with one person.
OP has he tried be petty and or manipulative in any other way? I bet all my money he has...click to expand
Posted by MoonshineLeoLeo.
whats the op sign?
Posted by xtra1990ohPosted by MoonshineLeoLeo.
whats the op sign?click to expand
Posted by xtra1990Posted by LDM90God, he is so petty sometimes. When he starts arguments over something small it'll eventually grow into something large and he'll start criticizing me. He constantly had something negative to say to me. For example, he would always say how I'm the best he's ever had, how great the sex is, blah blah blah, but when he would get upset he would say how bad it was or just anything negative. He called my best friend to talk about things and he got mad and then said to her how I'm the laziest person ever. The fuck?Posted by edgelordPeople who are like this aren’t “triggered”. This is just how they are. Like everyone keeps saying this has nothing to do with OP. He is going to have this issue with any and everyone. How did she trigger him by her FRIEND dancing with someone else?Posted by FknNerdImo neither of them is good for each other. The relationship itself is toxic. She triggers the shit out of his insecurities and instead of trying to work with him she’s just like “lulz”
I mean during ww2 most germans were nazis so they must have been right in their thinking. Missmissy logic.
Insecurities and instability do not start and end with one person.
OP has he tried be petty and or manipulative in any other way? I bet all my money he has...
Then another time he told her that I lie to my friends to because when I'm with him I'll say something like, "okay well I need to call you back I'm going to go to the store", but I wouldn't go until a little later. Or if I call them back the next day I'd say I fell asleep. I really did fall asleep. I don't need a play by play of what my friends are doing when they're with their SO and vice versa. I don't see that as lying at all. I did go to the store and fell alseep.click to expand
Posted by xtra1990He’s gaslighting you OP. Rather he realizes it or not, that’s what he’s doing.
Well I just got another message.
He said going to therapy would just be a disservice to me because he wouldn't really take it seriously because he was only going to go for me. He has felt he has needed to assume blame in order to move forward because I'm so 'unrelenting'. He's 'never had issues disagreeing with someone on the sequence of events or what was said, let alone have the same issue numerous times'. Also, that he can only hear "I never said that" before he questions my honesty. He not paranoid and my favorite part,
'Even if I didn't think you were lying your actions look dishonest so I interpreted them as such'.
Sigh. I don't even know why his messages still surprise me...
Posted by LDM90I just looked up gaslighting and now I'm confused. If I was the one who kept saying I didn't say that (he said I told him I used to lie to my ex. I KNOW I never said that because I never did that and who the heck would tell their new SO that anyways?) and according to him he's been feeling like I'm making him out to be crazy-wouldn't that be me gaslighting him? Maybe I'm not grasping what gaslighting is...Posted by xtra1990He’s gaslighting you OP. Rather he realizes it or not, that’s what he’s doing.
Well I just got another message.
He said going to therapy would just be a disservice to me because he wouldn't really take it seriously because he was only going to go for me. He has felt he has needed to assume blame in order to move forward because I'm so 'unrelenting'. He's 'never had issues disagreeing with someone on the sequence of events or what was said, let alone have the same issue numerous times'. Also, that he can only hear "I never said that" before he questions my honesty. He not paranoid and my favorite part,
'Even if I didn't think you were lying your actions look dishonest so I interpreted them as such'.
Sigh. I don't even know why his messages still surprise me...click to expand
Posted by FleshpotI clearly have tried ways to assuage him. Even then it’s still not good enough and he constantly reminded me of that so of course I’ve emotionally checked out. I said to go talk to his ex for closure, sent articles/suggested better ways for us to communicate, said we would go to therapy together, said we’d use Talkspace which is remote therapy so it wouldn’t interfere with time during the week. So of course I checked out-I think a lot of people would have.
Here's what I see...
His father recently passed away (or perhaps just ill at this point). He sends you a message on Father's Day, and you neglect to respond. Then proceed to lie about it.
Then...
" He said he's mentally moved on and isn't interested in this anymore. I said okay and leave."
"...he sends me another diatribe about how I broke up with him really screwed him up blah blah blah.
"God, he is so petty sometimes."
No doubt, he has some serious issues, but your words and actions seem very dismissive and irritated to me. It sounds like you're tired of walking on eggshells dealing with his insecurities, and instead of seeking ways to assuage them or work through them with him, you've emotionally checked out, perhaps hidden to your own awareness.
I think you made a poor judgment call by lying to him for something so trivial. Nothing sours a relationship more than dishonesty, especially for bulls. Once you're caught in a lie, you'll automatically lose any credibility you've ever had. It's a bit extreme, but that's just their way. From now on, he'll be swimming in (more) doubt and mistrust when it comes to you.
Given his history, mental instability, and all the events that have transpired, I don't think this is a relationship that can be salvaged.
Posted by xtra1990
I clearly have tried ways to assuage him. Even then it’s still not good enough and he constantly reminded me of that so of course I’ve emotionally checked out. I said to go talk to his ex for closure, sent articles/suggested better ways for us to communicate, said we would go to therapy together, said we’d use Talkspace which is remote therapy so it wouldn’t interfere with time during the week. So of course I checked out-I think a lot of people would have.
Yes, I lied but I was doomed from the start. I even asked him that the last time he saw me and he agreed. He was insecure about the relationship way before I lied. I believe he would’ve been like this with or without the lie and even if he was dating someone else.
Posted by xtra1990He sounds like a sick fuck. He doesn’t want you to have friends. This could have escalated into physical abuse. Keep ignoring him, and block him on everything.Posted by LDM90God, he is so petty sometimes. When he starts arguments over something small it'll eventually grow into something large and he'll start criticizing me. He constantly had something negative to say to me. For example, he would always say how I'm the best he's ever had, how great the sex is, blah blah blah, but when he would get upset he would say how bad it was or just anything negative. He called my best friend to talk about things and he got mad and then said to her how I'm the laziest person ever. The fuck?Posted by edgelordPeople who are like this aren’t “triggered”. This is just how they are. Like everyone keeps saying this has nothing to do with OP. He is going to have this issue with any and everyone. How did she trigger him by her FRIEND dancing with someone else?Posted by FknNerdImo neither of them is good for each other. The relationship itself is toxic. She triggers the shit out of his insecurities and instead of trying to work with him she’s just like “lulz”
I mean during ww2 most germans were nazis so they must have been right in their thinking. Missmissy logic.
Insecurities and instability do not start and end with one person.
OP has he tried be petty and or manipulative in any other way? I bet all my money he has...
Then another time he told her that I lie to my friends to because when I'm with him I'll say something like, "okay well I need to call you back I'm going to go to the store", but I wouldn't go until a little later. Or if I call them back the next day I'd say I fell asleep. I really did fall asleep. I don't need a play by play of what my friends are doing when they're with their SO and vice versa. I don't see that as lying at all. I did go to the store and fell alseep.click to expand
Posted by FleshpotYou must not have read my post in it's entirety...Posted by xtra1990
I clearly have tried ways to assuage him. Even then it’s still not good enough and he constantly reminded me of that so of course I’ve emotionally checked out. I said to go talk to his ex for closure, sent articles/suggested better ways for us to communicate, said we would go to therapy together, said we’d use Talkspace which is remote therapy so it wouldn’t interfere with time during the week. So of course I checked out-I think a lot of people would have.
Yes, I lied but I was doomed from the start. I even asked him that the last time he saw me and he agreed. He was insecure about the relationship way before I lied. I believe he would’ve been like this with or without the lie and even if he was dating someone else.
So was this thread created for venting purposes only?
Because it sounds like you've already made up your mind and decided that he's a lost cause, whereas you've no fault in the matter.click to expand
Posted by Nevermore1. year
Btw OP, now I'm thinking of it.
How long have you been with him?
When did you break up with him?
When did he start showing the signs of his issue with you?
Did he starts accusing you before or after you lied to him of not checking out that emoji?
Posted by Gob_ShiteIf like you have not enough time to read walls of text! You have to be happy. Someone entertaining your old ugly ass!
Is there an abridged version?
Posted by xtra1990Posted by LDM90God, he is so petty sometimes. When he starts arguments over something small it'll eventually grow into something large and he'll start criticizing me. He constantly had something negative to say to me. For example, he would always say how I'm the best he's ever had, how great the sex is, blah blah blah, but when he would get upset he would say how bad it was or just anything negative. He called my best friend to talk about things and he got mad and then said to her how I'm the laziest person ever. The fuck?Posted by edgelordPeople who are like this aren’t “triggered”. This is just how they are. Like everyone keeps saying this has nothing to do with OP. He is going to have this issue with any and everyone. How did she trigger him by her FRIEND dancing with someone else?Posted by FknNerdImo neither of them is good for each other. The relationship itself is toxic. She triggers the shit out of his insecurities and instead of trying to work with him she’s just like “lulz”
I mean during ww2 most germans were nazis so they must have been right in their thinking. Missmissy logic.
Insecurities and instability do not start and end with one person.
OP has he tried be petty and or manipulative in any other way? I bet all my money he has...
Then another time he told her that I lie to my friends to because when I'm with him I'll say something like, "okay well I need to call you back I'm going to go to the store", but I wouldn't go until a little later. Or if I call them back the next day I'd say I fell asleep. I really did fall asleep. I don't need a play by play of what my friends are doing when they're with their SO and vice versa. I don't see that as lying at all. I did go to the store and fell alseep.click to expand
Posted by missmissyPosted by AgentP911Hmm I don’t think it has anything to do with being a good match or not. Dude needs to see a professional immediately. He won’t be a “good match” for anyone until he gets help.
Frankly, just reading all of that was very tiring to me. The most concerning thing is that you’re actually living this!
You know when something really isn’t a good idea? Well that’s you two being together. It’s hard work. You don’t match. There’s far too many issues. What’s the point? Why do you want all this bullshit drama?
How old are you both? Early 20’s?
Dynamics have nothing to do with this OP. He has the issue. He’s going to find an issue with any and everyone.click to expand
Posted by NevermorePosted by AgentP911I don't think it has to do with the age. NOR even about how "good" the matches are.
Frankly, just reading all of that was very tiring to me. The most concerning thing is that you’re actually living this!
You know when something really isn’t a good idea? Well that’s you two being together. It’s hard work. You don’t match. There’s far too many issues. What’s the point? Why do you want all this bullshit drama?
How old are you both? Early 20’s?
No matter of ages, The victim doesn't even aware of how abusive/toxicated relationship is. It's really draining that you feel lost and unable to escape while letting others step over it. Either it's fear/sex is good/guilt/something else that has reason to stay without aware.
It's sad & trauma psychological thing.click to expand
Posted by AgentP911No it doesn’t have to do with being a good match or age. And wrong, HE argued over a bitmoji. Not her.Posted by NevermorePosted by AgentP911I don't think it has to do with the age. NOR even about how "good" the matches are.
Frankly, just reading all of that was very tiring to me. The most concerning thing is that you’re actually living this!
You know when something really isn’t a good idea? Well that’s you two being together. It’s hard work. You don’t match. There’s far too many issues. What’s the point? Why do you want all this bullshit drama?
How old are you both? Early 20’s?
No matter of ages, The victim doesn't even aware of how abusive/toxicated relationship is. It's really draining that you feel lost and unable to escape while letting others step over it. Either it's fear/sex is good/guilt/something else that has reason to stay without aware.
It's sad & trauma psychological thing.
It has everything to do with not being a match. They’re not suited to each other. They don’t gel together. They have different outlooks and approaches to things.
They also sound immature. She’s reduced this relationship down to a fucking emoji. They argued about a fucking emoji text. Really? 🙄 she’s not aware because she doesn’t have the experience and maturity to be aware or she just likes the attention.
Sure, the fella seems to have had a lot on his plate that he needs to deal with but the OP is cold and flippant with the fella. We only have her version. It is unclear why she wants him, what advice she actually wants, and what outcome she envisages.click to expand
Posted by norelationshipgoals😂😂😂😂
And you joined dxp
Nowhere to go but up from here
Posted by AznnationSigh you can’t make a comment if you haven’t read the entire post. You end up missing vital information.Posted by xtra1990As much as how this whole post(though i didnt read entirely) is skewed towards your favour/positioning yourself in a positive light you should not just use the term boyfriend/girlfriend loosely. That only happens when both you and him get to that "level" of trust, comittment which is stable. How can there be a relationship when he doesnt trust and you tend to lie(which you admitted) and all that shit happening between both of you lol, you know "like attract like"-if hes shitty and you're attracted to it you definitely have a shitty personality as well.
Apologies for the length.
Where to start...
According to my ex he's never loved anyone as much as me and wants to get married blah blah blah.
So fairly on my ex would ask me questions and I guess I was a little too honest? According to him a set the precedent and he thought I did to hurt his feelings. Examples; he asked what kind of porn I liked and answered and I took he took it personally because that wasn't what he was physically. Also asked if I like tall guys (he's a little on the shorter side) and I said yea so he also took that personally. Just to name a few examples...
Now, this is where I screwed up. I was out with my then-boyfriend and my girlfriends. My best friend who is in a relationship started dancing with another guy and he got mad at me. He assumed that's what I do when we're not together and he was fairly angry with me for almost two days. A few weeks later it's father's day and I'm with my family. He sent me a bitmoji (animated emoji) saying that he missed me. I completely forgot to respond since I'm with my family. He calls me and asked if I got his emoji and I lied and said yes, and I sent one back :/. He confronts me a week later in person and said that he knows I'm lying. I admit that I lied and said sorry. I explained that I just wanted to keep the peace because I don't know what he's going to get upset about.
Fast forward about 2 months ago.
You guys are clearly dating and not in a relationship, still in that partying/sex/alcohol having fun phase which is perfectly alright because you are in your 20s!(judging from yourscreen name xtra1990 lol). From what i read i can tell you like drama which is a definite no-no to taurus guys who prefer stability for relationships. This taurus guy seems to entertain your drama though so i guess both of you can thrive in this cocktail of bullshit, love, passion, drama and whatnot till both compromise or it ends lol, well this is the adventure and fun of life right? Well honestly i feel you should just let nature take its course so continue doing what makes you happy for you first and if he fits your plan by him doing the same thing then thats great.click to expand
Posted by AznnationPosted by xtra1990As much as how this whole post(though i didnt read entirely) is skewed towards your favour/positioning yourself in a positive light you should not just use the term boyfriend/girlfriend loosely. That only happens when both you and him get to that "level" of trust, comittment which is stable. How can there be a relationship when he doesnt trust and you tend to lie(which you admitted) and all that shit happening between both of you lol, you know "like attract like"-if hes shitty and you're attracted to it you definitely have a shitty personality as well.
Apologies for the length.
Where to start...
According to my ex he's never loved anyone as much as me and wants to get married blah blah blah.
So fairly on my ex would ask me questions and I guess I was a little too honest? According to him a set the precedent and he thought I did to hurt his feelings. Examples; he asked what kind of porn I liked and answered and I took he took it personally because that wasn't what he was physically. Also asked if I like tall guys (he's a little on the shorter side) and I said yea so he also took that personally. Just to name a few examples...
Now, this is where I screwed up. I was out with my then-boyfriend and my girlfriends. My best friend who is in a relationship started dancing with another guy and he got mad at me. He assumed that's what I do when we're not together and he was fairly angry with me for almost two days. A few weeks later it's father's day and I'm with my family. He sent me a bitmoji (animated emoji) saying that he missed me. I completely forgot to respond since I'm with my family. He calls me and asked if I got his emoji and I lied and said yes, and I sent one back :/. He confronts me a week later in person and said that he knows I'm lying. I admit that I lied and said sorry. I explained that I just wanted to keep the peace because I don't know what he's going to get upset about.
Fast forward about 2 months ago.
You guys are clearly dating and not in a relationship, still in that partying/sex/alcohol having fun phase which is perfectly alright because you are in your 20s!(judging from yourscreen name xtra1990 lol). From what i read i can tell you like drama which is a definite no-no to taurus guys who prefer stability for relationships. This taurus guy seems to entertain your drama though so i guess both of you can thrive in this cocktail of bullshit, love, passion, drama and whatnot till both compromise or it ends lol, well this is the adventure and fun of life right? Well honestly i feel you should just let nature take its course so continue doing what makes you happy for you first and if he fits your plan by him doing the same thing then thats great.click to expand
Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoonclick to expand
Posted by piscesmoon2If you know the owner of a club well enough that he felt comfortable enough to touch you, whether you felt it or believed it to be random club goers bumping you or not, you are a party girl. You have multiple stories of partying in your original post that sparked a response from your Bull. You are on an astrology board. We are telling you that from the astrological trait perspective, Bulls don’t like party girls or girls that look like party girls. They are homebodies and get jealous easily. When he saw your little friend dancing with some random, knowing full well she had a bf, he assumed you do that too, because in his mind, birds of a feather, flock together. In the mind of a Taurus, you lie once about something stupid like an emoji, and he can’t trust you on the big stuff. So he thinks you are cheating on him and being a liar face about it.Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
You would like a party girl to me... excepting random shots from guys at clubs... even more so the owner... always a sign of a party girl. The owners just want and wait to pick up on party girls. Ever notice how so many clubs go out of business and so on... these are not really stable business most of the time.
I say this knowing many men that went into this industry just to get ass... door guys, bartenders, promoters, owners, and so on... In the end very few do well in life and few ever have successful relationships due to the environment they are in... beside how do you have a family if you don't ever get home till 4 am or in the am. There are a few people that due well but a lot of time they don't drink I found out and or own many business.
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Posted by KoniuchaaBirth canal...Posted by piscesmoon2Who hurt you?Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
You would like a party girl to me... excepting random shots from guys at clubs... even more so the owner... always a sign of a party girl. The owners just want and wait to pick up on party girls. Ever notice how so many clubs go out of business and so on... these are not really stable business most of the time.
I say this knowing many men that went into this industry just to get ass... door guys, bartenders, promoters, owners, and so on... In the end very few do well in life and few ever have successful relationships due to the environment they are in... beside how do you have a family if you don't ever get home till 4 am or in the am. There are a few people that due well but a lot of time they don't drink I found out and or own many business.
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Posted by MichelleTYou clearly didn’t read. In the beginning I said,Posted by piscesmoon2If you know the owner of a club well enough that he felt comfortable enough to touch you, whether you felt it or believed it to be random club goers bumping you or not, you are a party girl. You have multiple stories of partying in your original post that sparked a response from your Bull. You are on an astrology board. We are telling you that from the astrological trait perspective, Bulls don’t like party girls or girls that look like party girls. They are homebodies and get jealous easily. When he saw your little friend dancing with some random, knowing full well she had a bf, he assumed you do that too, because in his mind, birds of a feather, flock together. In the mind of a Taurus, you lie once about something stupid like an emoji, and he can’t trust you on the big stuff. So he thinks you are cheating on him and being a liar face about it.Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
You would like a party girl to me... excepting random shots from guys at clubs... even more so the owner... always a sign of a party girl. The owners just want and wait to pick up on party girls. Ever notice how so many clubs go out of business and so on... these are not really stable business most of the time.
I say this knowing many men that went into this industry just to get ass... door guys, bartenders, promoters, owners, and so on... In the end very few do well in life and few ever have successful relationships due to the environment they are in... beside how do you have a family if you don't ever get home till 4 am or in the am. There are a few people that due well but a lot of time they don't drink I found out and or own many business.
Piscesmoon
I’m no Taurus expert, but I have learned some stuff from the Bulls on this board that has been a thousand percent on the money! Listen to them. They are all probably correct. He may have issues. You definitely have a problem that you wanna be with him in the face of the things you have told us about. I maintain that the rest of the story and the truth are still elusive in the conversation.
You both are incompatible on an astrological and sociophilosphical level.
Delete him from your life and move forward.click to expand
Posted by MichelleTSo OP mentioned partying twice. One time he was out with her, the other time her friend knew the owner and the boyfriend was out as well (and she invited him to be with her).Posted by piscesmoon2If you know the owner of a club well enough that he felt comfortable enough to touch you, whether you felt it or believed it to be random club goers bumping you or not, you are a party girl. You have multiple stories of partying in your original post that sparked a response from your Bull. You are on an astrology board. We are telling you that from the astrological trait perspective, Bulls don’t like party girls or girls that look like party girls. They are homebodies and get jealous easily. When he saw your little friend dancing with some random, knowing full well she had a bf, he assumed you do that too, because in his mind, birds of a feather, flock together. In the mind of a Taurus, you lie once about something stupid like an emoji, and he can’t trust you on the big stuff. So he thinks you are cheating on him and being a liar face about it.Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
You would like a party girl to me... excepting random shots from guys at clubs... even more so the owner... always a sign of a party girl. The owners just want and wait to pick up on party girls. Ever notice how so many clubs go out of business and so on... these are not really stable business most of the time.
I say this knowing many men that went into this industry just to get ass... door guys, bartenders, promoters, owners, and so on... In the end very few do well in life and few ever have successful relationships due to the environment they are in... beside how do you have a family if you don't ever get home till 4 am or in the am. There are a few people that due well but a lot of time they don't drink I found out and or own many business.
Piscesmoon
I’m no Taurus expert, but I have learned some stuff from the Bulls on this board that has been a thousand percent on the money! Listen to them. They are all probably correct. He may have issues. You definitely have a problem that you wanna be with him in the face of the things you have told us about. I maintain that the rest of the story and the truth are still elusive in the conversation.
You both are incompatible on an astrological and sociophilosphical level.
Delete him from your life and move forward.click to expand
Posted by MichelleTHmm I don’t think he’d be compatible with anyone right now. Unless the woman feeds his insecurities 24/7, doesn’t speak up for herself, and never screws up no one will be compatible for this guy. People who are this insecure can never truly be happy. They’ll always find faults. Until he gets therapy he’ll continue to sabotage relationships.Posted by piscesmoon2If you know the owner of a club well enough that he felt comfortable enough to touch you, whether you felt it or believed it to be random club goers bumping you or not, you are a party girl. You have multiple stories of partying in your original post that sparked a response from your Bull. You are on an astrology board. We are telling you that from the astrological trait perspective, Bulls don’t like party girls or girls that look like party girls. They are homebodies and get jealous easily. When he saw your little friend dancing with some random, knowing full well she had a bf, he assumed you do that too, because in his mind, birds of a feather, flock together. In the mind of a Taurus, you lie once about something stupid like an emoji, and he can’t trust you on the big stuff. So he thinks you are cheating on him and being a liar face about it.Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
You would like a party girl to me... excepting random shots from guys at clubs... even more so the owner... always a sign of a party girl. The owners just want and wait to pick up on party girls. Ever notice how so many clubs go out of business and so on... these are not really stable business most of the time.
I say this knowing many men that went into this industry just to get ass... door guys, bartenders, promoters, owners, and so on... In the end very few do well in life and few ever have successful relationships due to the environment they are in... beside how do you have a family if you don't ever get home till 4 am or in the am. There are a few people that due well but a lot of time they don't drink I found out and or own many business.
Piscesmoon
I’m no Taurus expert, but I have learned some stuff from the Bulls on this board that has been a thousand percent on the money! Listen to them. They are all probably correct. He may have issues. You definitely have a problem that you wanna be with him in the face of the things you have told us about. I maintain that the rest of the story and the truth are still elusive in the conversation.
You both are incompatible on an astrological and sociophilosphical level.
Delete him from your life and move forward.click to expand
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Reading extremely long dxp OPs is like watching most modern Hollywood movies - the personal investment usually far outweighs the eventual payback (if any)...
Posted by xtra1990Oh, I read what you wrote. You’re chummy enough with him that he felt it was ok to break a professional owner/patron barrier and force you to take the shot and possibly put his hands on you.Posted by MichelleTYou clearly didn’t read. In the beginning I said,Posted by piscesmoon2If you know the owner of a club well enough that he felt comfortable enough to touch you, whether you felt it or believed it to be random club goers bumping you or not, you are a party girl. You have multiple stories of partying in your original post that sparked a response from your Bull. You are on an astrology board. We are telling you that from the astrological trait perspective, Bulls don’t like party girls or girls that look like party girls. They are homebodies and get jealous easily. When he saw your little friend dancing with some random, knowing full well she had a bf, he assumed you do that too, because in his mind, birds of a feather, flock together. In the mind of a Taurus, you lie once about something stupid like an emoji, and he can’t trust you on the big stuff. So he thinks you are cheating on him and being a liar face about it.Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
You would like a party girl to me... excepting random shots from guys at clubs... even more so the owner... always a sign of a party girl. The owners just want and wait to pick up on party girls. Ever notice how so many clubs go out of business and so on... these are not really stable business most of the time.
I say this knowing many men that went into this industry just to get ass... door guys, bartenders, promoters, owners, and so on... In the end very few do well in life and few ever have successful relationships due to the environment they are in... beside how do you have a family if you don't ever get home till 4 am or in the am. There are a few people that due well but a lot of time they don't drink I found out and or own many business.
Piscesmoon
I’m no Taurus expert, but I have learned some stuff from the Bulls on this board that has been a thousand percent on the money! Listen to them. They are all probably correct. He may have issues. You definitely have a problem that you wanna be with him in the face of the things you have told us about. I maintain that the rest of the story and the truth are still elusive in the conversation.
You both are incompatible on an astrological and sociophilosphical level.
Delete him from your life and move forward.
“I was out with my girlfriends (who I rarely ever see anymore) one night. My best friend is good friends with the club owner.”
That’s her friend. I don’t even see her that often, so no, no I’m not a party girl.click to expand
Posted by MichelleTWell maybe you read it but comprehension and logical reasoning are not your strong suit. You can’t help what other people do. You can only control your actions. The owner made the choice to come over. OP couldn’t help that.Posted by xtra1990Oh, I read what you wrote. You’re chummy enough with him that he felt it was ok to break a professional owner/patron barrier and force you to take the shot and possibly put his hands on you.Posted by MichelleTYou clearly didn’t read. In the beginning I said,Posted by piscesmoon2If you know the owner of a club well enough that he felt comfortable enough to touch you, whether you felt it or believed it to be random club goers bumping you or not, you are a party girl. You have multiple stories of partying in your original post that sparked a response from your Bull. You are on an astrology board. We are telling you that from the astrological trait perspective, Bulls don’t like party girls or girls that look like party girls. They are homebodies and get jealous easily. When he saw your little friend dancing with some random, knowing full well she had a bf, he assumed you do that too, because in his mind, birds of a feather, flock together. In the mind of a Taurus, you lie once about something stupid like an emoji, and he can’t trust you on the big stuff. So he thinks you are cheating on him and being a liar face about it.Posted by xtra1990That is what they all say... walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, then most likely it is a duck.Posted by piscesmoon2I’m not a party girl...
You are just not right for each other however you seem kinda like a party girl. These days it seems to be socially acceptable... in all honesty this is only one side is the story as well. You know where one side is all you hear... I am not going to say you are a bad person but there is not a hole lot in clubs to find other then girls that want attention, drugs, and trouble. As people get older they don't need this as much and well woman often start to realize most men will not stay nor respect any girl that seems to much like a party girl.
As far as porn it has really tainted sex forever... in all honesty people these days seem like they hardly work... live on credit and think they are all rock stars because of instagram and a guy my buy them a drink.
I am not about to say this guy sounds super healthy but be realistic about what you want... if you do ever want to settle down realize you may not be so good looking if you have a kid or social... I say this to many woman... often times they think just because they are good looking that they can get a guy when ever... these days guys are seeing how party girls seem to be... why would they want to settle down with that. I would rather be alone then have to deal with drunk girl drama and constant need for attention.
Understand that most of the woman that give advise here just take your side because you are a girl. Also that most people are also liberal. Again I am not saying you can't or should feel ashamed but be realistic of what you want for a future... do you want to be the 40 year old cougar in the club or would you like to actually have a family. Plan accordingly because neither are accidents.
Piscesmoon
You would like a party girl to me... excepting random shots from guys at clubs... even more so the owner... always a sign of a party girl. The owners just want and wait to pick up on party girls. Ever notice how so many clubs go out of business and so on... these are not really stable business most of the time.
I say this knowing many men that went into this industry just to get ass... door guys, bartenders, promoters, owners, and so on... In the end very few do well in life and few ever have successful relationships due to the environment they are in... beside how do you have a family if you don't ever get home till 4 am or in the am. There are a few people that due well but a lot of time they don't drink I found out and or own many business.
Piscesmoon
I’m no Taurus expert, but I have learned some stuff from the Bulls on this board that has been a thousand percent on the money! Listen to them. They are all probably correct. He may have issues. You definitely have a problem that you wanna be with him in the face of the things you have told us about. I maintain that the rest of the story and the truth are still elusive in the conversation.
You both are incompatible on an astrological and sociophilosphical level.
Delete him from your life and move forward.
“I was out with my girlfriends (who I rarely ever see anymore) one night. My best friend is good friends with the club owner.”
That’s her friend. I don’t even see her that often, so no, no I’m not a party girl.
You may see them rarely, but what does that subjective term mean?
And that is the problem. It doesn’t matter what your reality may be. His perception is that you lied to him once so you’d lie again and that you like to go clubbing. This, his perception of you, based solely on what you have said, is that you are a liar and a party girl. Do you read? As clearly stated above, you are not a match for an overly sensitive Taurus. You are a Leo. Even a well adjusted Taurus would probably have trouble with you. You seem to enjoy a level of drama and argument, based on your posts and responses, that is incompatible. That is what I wrote above and that is what I will stand by.click to expand