Taurus woman and a sag man?

This topic was created in the Taurus forum by Absence on Tuesday, January 21, 2014 and has 26 replies.
So complicated. Any thoughts on a relationship between these two signs?
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I wonder if its just me but its a total no on sag men... I can only take sags in small doses it seems... Sure a sag mans eyes are sparkly but the bullshit coming from him masked that in my one experience... It was a terrible match to begin with that didnt last.
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Posted by AbbyNormal
I wonder if its just me but its a total no on sag men... I can only take sags in small doses it seems... Sure a sag mans eyes are sparkly but the bullshit coming from him masked that in my one experience... It was a terrible match to begin with that didnt last.


What intrigues me is the complexity of their personality. Not into games, but unconsciously they are masters at them. They value freedom and yet when you give it to them, their insecurities start to flare up. They value frankness yet are masters of passive aggressive behavior. However, nothing comes from a malicious place. I guess that's what attracts me. I know that deep down inside, they have a very gentle and sensitive soul.
Yet....the anxieties and insecurities and games....ohh dear.
I guess being a Taurus woman, I am very much straight forward. I find myself caught in the dilemma of "is their relentless soul seeking, questioning the bigger dilemmas" worth my patience?
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Posted by AbbyNormal
I wonder if its just me but its a total no on sag men... I can only take sags in small doses it seems... Sure a sag mans eyes are sparkly but the bullshit coming from him masked that in my one experience... It was a terrible match to begin with that didnt last.


What intrigues me is the complexity of their personality. Not into games, but unconsciously they are masters at them. They value freedom and yet when you give it to them, their insecurities start to flare up. They value frankness yet are masters of passive aggressive behavior. However, nothing comes from a malicious place. I guess that's what attracts me. I know that deep down inside, they have a very gentle and sensitive soul.
Yet....the anxieties and insecurities and games....ohh dear.
I guess being a Taurus woman, I am very much straight forward. I find myself caught in the dilemma of "is their relentless soul seeking, questioning the bigger dilemmas" worth my patience?
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this is very insightful...I'm with a Sag female and have several close sag male friends....all of this applies....the insecurity is incredible....and so different from the Taurean insecurity....they are so charming and outgoing, such confident performers and storytellers....but you can look them in the eye and just see a world of sensitivity, self-doubt, and fear of abandonment - very much like a child....all of that outward display masks a very fragile ego....they are capable of anything though. I think my Sag can literally accomplish anything she sets out to...all the men I know are like this as well...very good blend of introverted/extroverted qualities as well IMO....BUT they are so concerned to appear capable and intelligent, you have to wade through so much bullshit in the beginning of relationships....
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Posted by Absence
Posted by AbbyNormal
I wonder if its just me but its a total no on sag men... I can only take sags in small doses it seems... Sure a sag mans eyes are sparkly but the bullshit coming from him masked that in my one experience... It was a terrible match to begin with that didnt last.


What intrigues me is the complexity of their personality. Not into games, but unconsciously they are masters at them. They value freedom and yet when you give it to them, their insecurities start to flare up. They value frankness yet are masters of passive aggressive behavior. However, nothing comes from a malicious place. I guess that's what attracts me. I know that deep down inside, they have a very gentle and sensitive soul.
Yet....the anxieties and insecurities and games....ohh dear.
I guess being a Taurus woman, I am very much straight forward. I find myself caught in the dilemma of "is their relentless soul seeking, questioning the bigger dilemmas" worth my patience?


this is very insightful...I'm with a Sag female and have several close sag male friends....all of this applies....the insecurity is incredible....and so different from the Taurean insecurity....they are so charming and outgoing, such confident performers and storytellers....but you can look them in the eye and just see a world of sensitivity, self-doubt, and fear of abandonment - very much like a child....all of that outward display masks a very fragile ego....they are capable of anything though. I think my Sag can literally accomplish anything she sets out to...all the men I know are like this as well...very good blend of introverted/extroverted qualities as well IMO....BUT they are so concerned to appear capable and intelligent, you have to wade through so much bullshit in the beginning of relationships....
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TaurusLovesScorpio: I agree entirely. It is interesting to see how far they are willing to take the image that they create. Sometimes they take themselves so seriously in what they need to achieve, that they forget for a moment what is their purpose for being where they are. I also find very interesting the entire stigma of "commitment" that is associated to them. I personally find them to be very loyal a
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and committed personalities. Yet as you mentioned, they are fear driven by abandonment issues. So fragile and yet the most capable of them all. I know that they are seen and perceived as the heart and soul of any party with their witty banter and carefree soul....but all they long is something somewhat different. The wading through is a tough process....is all I can say.
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when they finally settle down, they r really looking for someone who will always be there....someone who totally accepts their weak vulnerable side...and it is a very very weak side....i have actually struggled with this because a bull is made of steel inwardly compared to a sag IMO....and iI like a very strong partner...when u see truly how weak they are u almost feel like a parent to them...their neediness can dampen the sex appeal....even though they will master every trick in bed and always aim to please...
I can see that being even more the case with the men....but even though they lack that inner strength and solidity that we have, their strength in action, and what they can manifest in the world is something we can respect...
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i have one sag male friend right now whos been my bfs best friend for years... i love him but theres a lot i cant stand about him too... lol what gets me with him is that he a) doesnt walk his talk or b) acts like a d-bag when i know hes got a good heart buried in there... he pretends to be so uncaring and cant seem to tell that hes not fooling anyone... both make me percieve him as not genuine which makes me uneasy... i like open, honest, and direct...
the insecurity issue with him and the ex i could not deal with at all... it was too much...
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Posted by AbbyNormal
i have one sag male friend right now whos been my bfs best friend for years... i love him but theres a lot i cant stand about him too... lol what gets me with him is that he a) doesnt walk his talk or b) acts like a d-bag when i know hes got a good heart buried in there... he pretends to be so uncaring and cant seem to tell that hes not fooling anyone... both make me percieve him as not genuine which makes me uneasy... i like open, honest, and direct...
the insecurity issue with him and the ex i could not deal with at all... it was too much...



the men *I* know are pretty bad (to varying degrees)....constantly bragging, striving/competing, fairly hypocritical, etc. I've always found you can call them out on it and with a Sag its honestly fun to sling a little mud back and forth at each other. They respect you for it. I've found only with time do they trust enough to start letting the fakeness go. The sad thing is that they really think they are impressing you with it when mostly they are just annoying you. Once they're secure that you actually like them for who they are, it seems to die down a bit. And they are really helpful and loyal friends - the kind of person that will stop what they are doing to show you how to do something, help you fix anything, etc. Every Sag I know is like a self-taught master mechanic.
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But I will say, I have to agree with you. On the men, from what I have seen of their nature...IF I were a female (if I can say such a thing), I would never be attracted. The surface charm and wit is impressive but that kind of inner insecurity in a man seems out of place. The insecurity in the men I know, drives them to cheat. I had to coach one of my Sag friends into understanding how wrong it was to cheat on a woman he married a month ago. He was really good at lying to himself.
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Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
when they finally settle down, they r really looking for someone who will always be there....someone who totally accepts their weak vulnerable side...and it is a very very weak side....i have actually struggled with this because a bull is made of steel inwardly compared to a sag IMO....and iI like a very strong partner...when u see truly how weak they are u almost feel like a parent to them...their neediness can dampen the sex appeal....even though they will master every trick in bed and always aim to please...
I can see that being even more the case with the men....but even though they lack that inner strength and solidity that we have, their strength in action, and what they can manifest in the world is something we can respect...


TLS: This is what I'm struggling with the most. There is a primal animalistic instinct with Taurus people. If deep inside I don't see you as strong as I perceive myself to be, I will gradually move away. I'm a believer that if there is a weakness, and I'm aware of it, I will attack it head on and concur it. If I can't, I'll admit it openly and move on. End of the story. And yet, they will surprise you with the strength of their actions, to the point that you stop for a moment and ponder : why did you waste my time and yours in the weakness department when you have it in you to concur it? And yet....I can't help but respect them.
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Posted by AbbyNormal
i have one sag male friend right now whos been my bfs best friend for years... i love him but theres a lot i cant stand about him too... lol what gets me with him is that he a) doesnt walk his talk or b) acts like a d-bag when i know hes got a good heart buried in there... he pretends to be so uncaring and cant seem to tell that hes not fooling anyone... both make me percieve him as not genuine which makes me uneasy... i like open, honest, and direct...
the insecurity issue with him and the ex i could not deal with at all... it was too much...



Hmm.... Interesting what you say, Abby. I have noticed such behavior. I feel it is their way of testing you ' if you have the guts to go against them and show that they are wrong'. I believe it to be the first test they put you through. Ironic when you come to think of it because they are such pioneers of ' frankness' .
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Sag has always fallen flat for me. Unsure why. One of those unanswered questions I suppose.
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Posted by venusianbull
Sag has always fallen flat for me. Unsure why. One of those unanswered questions I suppose.



Femininity and calmness. Both traits that come very natural to a Taurus woman. Sags can't resist that. :-)
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Posted by Absence
This is what I'm struggling with the most. There is a primal animalistic instinct with Taurus people. If deep inside I don't see you as strong as I perceive myself to be, I will gradually move away. I'm a believer that if there is a weakness, and I'm aware of it, I will attack it head on and concur it. If I can't, I'll admit it openly and move on. End of the story. And yet, they will surprise you with the strength of their actions, to the point that you stop for a moment and ponder : why did you waste my time and yours in the weakness department when you have it in you to concur it? And yet....I can't help but respect them.


Each sign has its strengths/weaknesses. I've personally never been with a woman who I felt was as strong inwardly as I was, but they've had plenty of strengths in areas where I've been weak. Inner strength and stability is definitely a Taurus thing, so maybe you are expecting too much. I find if I think about my Sag and all she *does*, how she moves through life, her strength is evident and so impressive. Some of the most inwardly fragile people make the biggest impact on the world. Their inner environment isn't want they want it to be, so they are more likely to change the outer. With bulls, our inner strength and contentedness can make it so we really don't even feel we need to move - even in the direction of our own dreams. The inner is fine, why change the outer? We're often content to just be. How often has it been the case that you only made a move or change in life because some calamity happened that shook things up and made you inwardly uncomfortable? That's been the case with me a lot. So you can see that a person who is less stable inwardly, might be more ambitious to affect their environment.
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Hmm....I have contemplated what you state, TLS. Our inner stability is like a soul balm for their constantly restless consciousness. On the other hand, their constant outer drive serves as an incentive to push our limits. We allow this, because deep inside we trust them...and we trust their opinions.
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Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
Posted by AbbyNormal
i have one sag male friend right now whos been my bfs best friend for years... i love him but theres a lot i cant stand about him too... lol what gets me with him is that he a) doesnt walk his talk or b) acts like a d-bag when i know hes got a good heart buried in there... he pretends to be so uncaring and cant seem to tell that hes not fooling anyone... both make me percieve him as not genuine which makes me uneasy... i like open, honest, and direct...
the insecurity issue with him and the ex i could not deal with at all... it was too much...



the men *I* know are pretty bad (to varying degrees)....constantly bragging, striving/competing, fairly hypocritical, etc. I've always found you can call them out on it and with a Sag its honestly fun to sling a little mud back and forth at each other. They respect you for it. I've found only with time do they trust enough to start letting the fakeness go. The sad thing is that they really think they are impressing you with it when mostly they are just annoying you. Once they're secure that you actually like them for who they are, it seems to die down a bit. And they are really helpful and loyal friends - the kind of person that will stop what they are doing to show you how to do something, help you fix anything, etc. Every Sag I know is like a self-taught master mechanic.
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Thats Tim alright! Big Grin Our friendship is most def love/hate lol
I think i got his respect by putting him in his place one night he was acting particularly condescending and know it all while drunk lol
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Posted by Absence
Hmm....I have contemplated what you state, TLS. Our inner stability is like a soul balm for their constantly restless consciousness. On the other hand, their constant outer drive serves as an incentive to push our limits. We allow this, because deep inside we trust them...and we trust their opinions.


I think she and I work for this reason. Mine has a Capricorn stellium too so that grounds her a bit. My Sag male friend has a Scorp stellium. He is a total lunatic, and I prefer to just talk to him via social media - maybe one phone call a month. His energy in person drives me nuts. It was easier to deal with when I was young and into partying. He never grew up though. That's another thing with them. In their 40's dressing like they are 18. They seem to really fear getting old.
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Ahh.... Hm...
I don't know mine or his. -sad face-
Probably I should be looking into that. I'm an April 29. Right in the middle!!!
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Posted by TaurusLovesScorpio
But I will say, I have to agree with you. On the men, from what I have seen of their nature...IF I were a female (if I can say such a thing), I would never be attracted. The surface charm and wit is impressive but that kind of inner insecurity in a man seems out of place. The insecurity in the men I know, drives them to cheat. I had to coach one of my Sag friends into understanding how wrong it was to cheat on a woman he married a month ago. He was really good at lying to himself.



Huh...you just might be right about this one.
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What I meant was they don't add glitter to my Christmas cracker. Never engaged with one. Earth & Water are my vroom buttons. smile
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Posted by venusianbull
What I meant was they don't add glitter to my Christmas cracker. Never engaged with one. Earth & Water are my vroom buttons. smile



Yeah...the self-protect mode is in full force right now. Vroom-Vroom is about right!
-sad chuckle-
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Oi! Dated a Sag man for about six months. He was incredibly smart and funny and sweet when he wanted, but very flaky and shady. Would make plans then break them bc he found a cheap ticket to a South American country he wanted to visit. Would get mad at me bc I had two jobs, never wanted to go out in my side of town or spend the night at my place, it was always in his turf. Bad bad experience!
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If you really love him and want to impress him.
I'd say Hit the Gym smile
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Shy, talking to me? smile
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Posted by Tavrine
I had exbf who has sun sag and moon aries for 2 years and a month.
He is a generous (food), caring and awesome chef. It only drives me nuts of his nervous-optimistic-notlistening point and he can be selfish sometimes. The only worst thing when it comes to insecurities to blame/giving faults on me while he can't handle his admitting of his own fault. Even when he's high up horny while i'm not that he can be a bit forceful. Straight Face And to be honest, I have learned what real fire elements means when someone has it..


Sags are extremely horny - constantly hounding you for sex. Fortunately that is mostly all they need you to do. LOL. I don't have anywhere near the libido that she has. I'm just too lazy for daily sex, I'm sorry. I don't know about these other bulls. I'm in the gym a lot, working all day...Sometimes I need a night or two off. Honestly if I had it my way, we'd get it on like once a week. I like to deprive myself a bit and let that animalistic passion build up. If you do it every night it can get a little boring and routine IMO.
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