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This topic was created in the The Powder Room forum by Montgomery on Wednesday, May 18, 2016 and has 43 replies.
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... call other women 'girls'?

I don't mean terms like Girls Night Out...

I mean, in everyday language.


I asked the girl at the makeup counter...

But she's 30.


One of the girls at work...

etc.


And if you do... are you from the South?

If not... then where are you from?




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Hmmmm yes I do. I think if I eyeball it a tad, anyone that looks sort of younger than myself I refer to as a girl...
If it's someone who's significantly older I might say- the woman at the front desk told me such and such or the lady at the store showed me etc
But if we are friends - like I go to accounts about once a week, and the two ladies in there are late 40s maybe early 50s but I always feel like they're my girls. So I say hows everything girls or hey girlies wassup when I walk in to see em, coz age doesn't matter in friendships and they my girls lol
But I'm just a cheeky whippersnapper lol

And I'm early thirties but clients and customers always say oh I spoke to the girl or the girl showed me such and such so it's all relative for now haaaa
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Yeah, I do. The terms 'lady' and 'woman' sound too formal to me although if they are much older than me I would probably use 'lady'.
I'm from the Northeast.
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Okay. .. so the consensus is that "woman" sounds old?


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What about at work, in a professional setting,

when you're referring to a peer/co-worker?
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Posted by Montgomery
What about at work, in a professional setting,

when you're referring to a peer/co-worker?

Hmmm if it's a direct coworker I guess I'd have to say I use their name immediately.
If they are new I might say to my boss what's the name of the 'lady' in department x - and then use their name all the time.

If it's an indirect coworker and I know their name and they are senior to moi and someone asks for them I'll say- see the lady in the nursery her name is - and then be all -name- I'm sending someone down to see you or I might yell at her actually that's more my style across the car park OI INSERTNAME IMMSENDING THESE PEOPLE OVER lots of waving and smiling ARE YOU FREE NOW?

If it's some pipsqueak college student working part time tho, I'll say girl... Until I get her name.
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Posted by Montgomery
What about at work, in a professional setting,

when you're referring to a peer/co-worker?

Hmmm if it's a direct coworker I guess I'd have to say I use their name immediately.
If they are new I might say to my boss what's the name of the 'lady' in department x - and then use their name all the time.

If it's an indirect coworker and I know their name and they are senior to moi and someone asks for them I'll say- see the lady in the nursery her name is - and then be all -name- I'm sending someone down to see you or I might yell at her actually that's more my style across the car park OI INSERTNAME IMMSENDING THESE PEOPLE OVER lots of waving and smiling ARE YOU FREE NOW?

If it's some pipsqueak college student working part time tho, I'll say girl... Until I get her name.
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You are so shiny Big Grin

And yes, the proper name is the way to go, of course.

What I'm getting at, in an entirely too roundabout way,

is that it is rare to hear men refer to other men as 'that boy'--

because we have the neutral term Guy, I guess?

Or dude? lol

But it's beginning to make my skin crawl to hear grown women

referred to as Girls, or Her, by men (or worse, other women),

while men are called Men.


I was wondering if it was a tragically Southern thing, these days,

or if it was universal. :/








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I do that constantly, and I'm originally from the Deep South (22 years spent). I also have a bad habit of calling people "Honey" or "sugar" by accident. Gets some mixed reactions to say the least.
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Posted by Cricket808
*raisng my hand*


I can't say where I'm from, but I'm not from the south.


Thanks, Cricket 808 Tongue
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Posted by 000sillylion000
I do that constantly, and I'm originally from the Deep South (22 years spent). I also have a bad habit of calling people "Honey" or "sugar" by accident. Gets some mixed reactions to say the least.


That is Deep South, Hon. o.O


Did you relocate?

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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by wagtail
Posted by Montgomery
What about at work, in a professional setting,

when you're referring to a peer/co-worker?

Hmmm if it's a direct coworker I guess I'd have to say I use their name immediately.
If they are new I might say to my boss what's the name of the 'lady' in department x - and then use their name all the time.

If it's an indirect coworker and I know their name and they are senior to moi and someone asks for them I'll say- see the lady in the nursery her name is - and then be all -name- I'm sending someone down to see you or I might yell at her actually that's more my style across the car park OI INSERTNAME IMMSENDING THESE PEOPLE OVER lots of waving and smiling ARE YOU FREE NOW?

If it's some pipsqueak college student working part time tho, I'll say girl... Until I get her name.



You are so shiny Big Grin

And yes, the proper name is the way to go, of course.

What I'm getting at, in an entirely too roundabout way,

is that it is rare to hear men refer to other men as 'that boy'--

because we have the neutral term Guy, I guess?

Or dude? lol

But it's beginning to make my skin crawl to hear grown women

referred to as Girls, or Her, by men (or worse, other women),

while men are called Men.


I was wondering if it was a tragically Southern thing, these days,

or if it was universal. :/









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Ooo oh no yes I hear you. It's different with men.
Unfortunately I'm no help there. Here in DownUnder land anything male is referred to as That Bloke O'er There...
Yes, that bloke... No no the other bloke, that bloke yeh jus see him mate...
Oi mate, mate! Yeh mate, that's the bloke you wanna see.
Big Grin I don't know if that's better or worse!
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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by 000sillylion000
I do that constantly, and I'm originally from the Deep South (22 years spent). I also have a bad habit of calling people "Honey" or "sugar" by accident. Gets some mixed reactions to say the least.


That is Deep South, Hon. o.O


Did you relocate?


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I did. West coast for work. It's so funny too, because back home, you always say, "Excuse me," when you cross in front of someone... because you're in their way. But out here, it's a crap shoot. I'd say 70% of the time, if I say, "Excuse me," the denizens and natives hear "EXCUUUUUUUUUUUUSEEEEEE MEEEEEEEEE." As if I am bitching at them because they are in MY way. I've gotten used to it now, but it was such a culture shock -- and I say this not having bought into the Southern Belle routine (I had Yankee parents). Still makes me smile though, and I still say it smile
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I say "hello young ladies" to those under 13
Hello little women - 13 - 20 something
Hi ladies - late 20s and beyond

Close friends hey chicka

People on my shit list I dont acknowledge what so ever

Them: hi
Me: blank stare
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Posted by Montgomery
What about at work, in a professional setting,

when you're referring to a peer/co-worker?


First and/or lastname
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Posted by Montgomery
... call other women 'girls'?

I don't mean terms like Girls Night Out...

I mean, in everyday language.


I asked the girl at the makeup counter...

But she's 30.


One of the girls at work...

etc.


And if you do... are you from the South?

If not... then where are you from?







Interesting question. Sometime in my teens, I was supremely idealistic, and I made it a point to say "woman" when referring to another female, unless she was a girl. I went as far as to correcting my brothers if they referred to a woman as "girl," though that's a comfort zone for young guys, I think.

I was called "girl" by another woman once, and she was saying it in a derogatory, disrespectful way. Like the way Professor Umbridge addressed Hermione. Yes, I was much younger than her (I think she was in her late forties), but I was 21.

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If I'm greeting co-workers, I'll actually say: "Good morning ladies and gentlemen!" Or I greet them by their names if they aren't in a group.

I love being called "miss."
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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by wagtail
Posted by Montgomery
What about at work, in a professional setting,

when you're referring to a peer/co-worker?

Hmmm if it's a direct coworker I guess I'd have to say I use their name immediately.
If they are new I might say to my boss what's the name of the 'lady' in department x - and then use their name all the time.

If it's an indirect coworker and I know their name and they are senior to moi and someone asks for them I'll say- see the lady in the nursery her name is - and then be all -name- I'm sending someone down to see you or I might yell at her actually that's more my style across the car park OI INSERTNAME IMMSENDING THESE PEOPLE OVER lots of waving and smiling ARE YOU FREE NOW?

If it's some pipsqueak college student working part time tho, I'll say girl... Until I get her name.



You are so shiny Big Grin

And yes, the proper name is the way to go, of course.

What I'm getting at, in an entirely too roundabout way,

is that it is rare to hear men refer to other men as 'that boy'--

because we have the neutral term Guy, I guess?

Or dude? lol

But it's beginning to make my skin crawl to hear grown women

referred to as Girls, or Her, by men (or worse, other women),

while men are called Men.


I was wondering if it was a tragically Southern thing, these days,

or if it was universal. :/









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I have always called so's guy or dude when they're getting on my nerves
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Posted by Montgomery
Okay. .. so the consensus is that "woman" sounds old?





Not really, just too non-personal and formal -sounding, eg. 'This man asked me out' vs. 'This guy asked me out'.
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I say woman, unless the female is a teenager or younger, but even with teenagers I feel like it isn't really accurate to say girl, if they've hit puberty. Goofing around with friends, I'll say chick sometimes, or use really old terms like broad, just for the hell of it, but again, only with friends who know I'm not serious.
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I don't know. I use all sorts of variations, mostly because of my job and how we have to be careful in how we address groups. Nothing gender specific unless it's all one gender at the table, then it's "ladies" or "guys/gentlemen."

Every day talk it can be "girl," "ladies," "woman," or "chick."
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
I don't know. I use all sorts of variations, mostly because of my job and how we have to be careful in how we address groups. Nothing gender specific unless it's all one gender at the table, then it's "ladies" or "guys/gentlemen."

Every day talk it can be "girl," "ladies," "woman," or "chick."


You're originally from the south though. ..

You dont think its rude for men to be called men,

and women to be called girls?
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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by rockyroadicecream
I don't know. I use all sorts of variations, mostly because of my job and how we have to be careful in how we address groups. Nothing gender specific unless it's all one gender at the table, then it's "ladies" or "guys/gentlemen."

Every day talk it can be "girl," "ladies," "woman," or "chick."


You're originally from the south though. ..

You dont think its rude for men to be called men,

and women to be called girls?
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No, I'm not. I was born in Cali. I lived in the south for some time, but came back. I don't really identify with a "from" since both have had about equal influence.

Why the hell would calling a man a "man" be rude? "Girls" depends on the context and situation.
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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by rockyroadicecream
I don't know. I use all sorts of variations, mostly because of my job and how we have to be careful in how we address groups. Nothing gender specific unless it's all one gender at the table, then it's "ladies" or "guys/gentlemen."

Every day talk it can be "girl," "ladies," "woman," or "chick."


You're originally from the south though. ..

You dont think its rude for men to be called men,

and women to be called girls?


No, I'm not. I was born in Cali. I lived in the south for some time, but came back. I don't really identify with a "from" since both have had about equal influence.

Why the hell would calling a man a "man" be rude? "Girls" depends on the context and situation.
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I guess I should expect such a response from girls like you.

Disregard, snotface. smile
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Posted by Montgomery
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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by rockyroadicecream
I don't know. I use all sorts of variations, mostly because of my job and how we have to be careful in how we address groups. Nothing gender specific unless it's all one gender at the table, then it's "ladies" or "guys/gentlemen."

Every day talk it can be "girl," "ladies," "woman," or "chick."


You're originally from the south though. ..

You dont think its rude for men to be called men,

and women to be called girls?


No, I'm not. I was born in Cali. I lived in the south for some time, but came back. I don't really identify with a "from" since both have had about equal influence.

Why the hell would calling a man a "man" be rude? "Girls" depends on the context and situation.



I guess I should expect such a response from girls like you.

Disregard, snotface. smile
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Sorry about the snotface comment.


Anyway-- doesn't everything depend on context?

I'm not sure how to explain to you why it is rude

for men to be called Men, and women to be called

children or Girls.

You seem to understand it at work, going the extra

mile with Ladies & Gentlemen-- this isn't any different.

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Posted by MlleFisk
I call my closest female friends girls. It has a more childlike context which reflects my playful affection for them.


That's endearing, yes.

Not so much when it's in the workplace,

involving people who aren't your friends.


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Posted by Montgomery
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I call my closest female friends girls. It has a more childlike context which reflects my playful affection for them.


That's endearing, yes.

Not so much when it's in the workplace,

involving people who aren't your friends.





Agreed.

I have heard other women in my work place refer to others as "girls." I'm not sure if you work in a mostly female environment as I do, but no one really bats an eye about it so one feels they need to adjust. But my office is not overly formal, either.
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I'm THE ONLY woman in the joint.

I'm accustomed to working with

predominantly men, but theres always

been at least one other woman around.

Its definitely different. o.O




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Posted by EnochtheWise
I call them bros.


Heh... and how does the sistren respond to that?
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I usually say lady but if it's a teen or very young female I say girl. And I'm from the Lone Star State. Winking
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I use girl when the female I'm dealing with is being rude, disrespectful otherwise I prefer the term lady.


Oh and I use "that woman" when discussing horrible harpies.


I'm in the Deep South.
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Posted by Montgomery
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Posted by Montgomery
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I don't know. I use all sorts of variations, mostly because of my job and how we have to be careful in how we address groups. Nothing gender specific unless it's all one gender at the table, then it's "ladies" or "guys/gentlemen."

Every day talk it can be "girl," "ladies," "woman," or "chick."


You're originally from the south though. ..

You dont think its rude for men to be called men,

and women to be called girls?


No, I'm not. I was born in Cali. I lived in the south for some time, but came back. I don't really identify with a "from" since both have had about equal influence.

Why the hell would calling a man a "man" be rude? "Girls" depends on the context and situation.



I guess I should expect such a response from girls like you.

Disregard, snotface. smile


Sorry about the snotface comment.


Anyway-- doesn't everything depend on context?

I'm not sure how to explain to you why it is rude

for men to be called Men, and women to be called

children or Girls.

You seem to understand it at work, going the extra

mile with Ladies & Gentlemen-- this isn't any different.


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...still not understanding why calling men "men" is "rude." I never implied the others weren't rude. You misread quite a bit there.
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Posted by kissmygrits
I use girl when the female I'm dealing with is being rude, disrespectful otherwise I prefer the term lady.


Oh and I use "that woman" when discussing horrible harpies.


I'm in the Deep South.

Random, but your mentioning the south reminded me of these


"Bless her heart..."

Translates to

"That silly bitch...."



One that makes me cringe is "boy." Like, "What's your problem, boy?" between two adult men. It's just the association of ignorant rednecks who can barely figure out how to breathe on a daily basis that makes me cringe. Gah.
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Haha yeah blessing an idiot's heart is very important. Big Grin


You know I never witness that "boy" thing. I wonder if it's mainly in the movies?
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Posted by Montgomery
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Posted by Montgomery
Posted by rockyroadicecream
I don't know. I use all sorts of variations, mostly because of my job and how we have to be careful in how we address groups. Nothing gender specific unless it's all one gender at the table, then it's "ladies" or "guys/gentlemen."

Every day talk it can be "girl," "ladies," "woman," or "chick."


You're originally from the south though. ..

You dont think its rude for men to be called men,

and women to be called girls?


No, I'm not. I was born in Cali. I lived in the south for some time, but came back. I don't really identify with a "from" since both have had about equal influence.

Why the hell would calling a man a "man" be rude? "Girls" depends on the context and situation.



I guess I should expect such a response from girls like you.

Disregard, snotface. smile


Sorry about the snotface comment.


Anyway-- doesn't everything depend on context?

I'm not sure how to explain to you why it is rude

for men to be called Men, and women to be called

children or Girls.

You seem to understand it at work, going the extra

mile with Ladies & Gentlemen-- this isn't any different.




...still not understanding why calling men "men" is "rude." I never implied the others weren't rude. You misread quite a bit there.
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No, I didn't.... you're being intentionally obtuse.


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Posted by kissmygrits
Haha yeah blessing an idiot's heart is very important. Big Grin


You know I never witness that "boy" thing. I wonder if it's mainly in the movies?


Must be... I don't hear it, around here, either.




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For older females I use chick/lady.

When Im talking to my friends (of varying ages) I sometimes call them girl to their faces in replacement of their names.
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I'm surprised to hear the word Woman sounds OLD

to so many *ahem* Women.

Confused

I wonder if thats by design.

Unless preceded by "grown-ass... " of course.

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SF never calls women 'girls'. He always calls them 'woman !'Laughing
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Posted by gengbenghiskhan
ADAMS RIBS


+1 for creativity anyway.

Bro.
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Posted by Montgomery

No, I didn't.... you're being intentionally obtuse.



No, not really. You swept up the use of "girl" when all I was saying was that it depended on context. Nowhere in that statement did I say I didn't understand why "girls" was considered rude, sweetheart.

Just the use of "men" is what's unclear here. Which you're miserably failing at explaining because I highly doubt you have a logical reason as to why addressing "men" is rude, considering you have avoided answering several times now. Calling women "women" isn't rude, apparently, but calling men, "men" is? Yeah okay. You must be bored.
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Posted by kissmygrits
Haha yeah blessing an idiot's heart is very important. Big Grin


You know I never witness that "boy" thing. I wonder if it's mainly in the movies?


I saw it a lot growing up. It's probably been phased out since it was usually uttered by old, racist guys back then. They're probably dead now.

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Love that word Monty ~ *obtuse* ~ such a good ring to it and a very tactful way of saying *slow*


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Perfect for describing yourself, funnily enough.

For being a grown woman, you sure are passive aggressive and catty like a 12 year old. You should be embarrassed of yourself. You are not as mature as you want others to believe here and it's lol.
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Posted by kissmygrits
Haha yeah blessing an idiot's heart is very important. Big Grin


You know I never witness that "boy" thing. I wonder if it's mainly in the movies?


I saw it a lot growing up. It's probably been phased out since it was usually uttered by old, racist guys back then. They're probably dead now.

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Love that word Monty ~ *obtuse* ~ such a good ring to it and a very tactful way of saying *slow*


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Perfect for describing yourself, funnily enough.

For being a grown woman, you sure are passive aggressive and catty like a 12 year old. You should be embarrassed of yourself. You are not as mature as you want others to believe here and it's lol.
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"Funnily... "





I no longer believe you're being intentionally obtuse.

You really don't get it.







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Posted by Montgomery

No, I didn't.... you're being intentionally obtuse.



No, not really. You swept up the use of "girl" when all I was saying was that it depended on context. Nowhere in that statement did I say I didn't understand why "girls" was considered rude, sweetheart.

Just the use of "men" is what's unclear here. Which you're miserably failing at explaining because I highly doubt you have a logical reason as to why addressing "men" is rude, considering you have avoided answering several times now. Calling women "women" isn't rude, apparently, but calling men, "men" is? Yeah okay. You must be bored.
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Rocky Rooooaad

Take me hoooome

To the plaaaaace

I belooooong...





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