Trying to understand womens insecurities

This topic was created in the The Powder Room forum by 777 on Monday, January 6, 2020 and has 40 replies.
Why do some feel they need to enhance certain characteristics about themselves using surgery & fake costume products? (With the exception of dying hair)

Why is it that most men can be natural, but lot of women cant? It may just be a cultural thing
Because some women compete against other women using perceived thought of what a man would consider beautiful.
Because it’s big business.

Beauty industry revenue from 2019 = 530billion +

And it’s not about insecurities. It’s about being the target market.

Because women are programmed they are supposed to be perfect.




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Why do some feel they need to enhance certain characteristics about themselves using surgery & fake costume products? (With the exception of dying hair)

Why is it that most men can be natural, but lot of women cant? It may just be a cultural thing
You just answered your own question dude. Insecurity. Theres nothing there you should try to understand. Fire sign women I notice can't go natural more than most women.
It's been said already but yeah, that's the effect of capitalism/consumerism on human self esteem. It fucks us all up.


This world preys on your insecurities, and profits from your reaction to the trauma inflicted by these conflicting images.
I don’t know either. Especially since all the plastic surgery years later makes the women look warped and practically the same as everyone else who’s had it. That creepy “cat face” look.


There is a lot of pressure from Instagram and other social media outlets but I think it has more to do with self esteem.


Make up and dying my hair a bunch of different colors is about all I would do. Laser hair removal would be awesome but I’m too scared to put stuff inside my body, like fillers, silicon (boob or butt implants) or whatever else enhancements that we have no clue what will do to a body in the later years.


I’ll just grow older naturally and what sags will sag 🤷‍♀️
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.
Actually makeup has a lot of spf and skin protection now. It’s a great way to keep your skin from aging from the sun and helps it to stay clear with the right makeup and cleansing routine. New age technology is great and there are tons of options for the kind to wear. Chemical free, vegan and all.


I look young too. I think it has to do with my eating habits and genetics though.
We have all been programmed to be very visual. What is visually appealing has also been programmed into us over time. I feel like we are at another age of enlightenment in some ways, ie. more people expanding their minds with hallucinogens. More people opening their minds to themselves and their true wants. I like to look a certain way so I play to that but I'm generally lazy about my appearance. Appearance plays a big part in our realities however. I find the better energy I have, the more attractive I become--no matter the outside appearance. I find I get more compliments when I feel good, not just when I'm wearing more makeup or more revealing clothing.
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.
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Because some women compete against other women using perceived thought of what a man would consider beautiful.


Yeah, like they think men love false eyelashes, hair weaves, fake boobs, botox face, falsely plumped lips, fake booty, etc.,. Men love this stuff.
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


We're talking about subconscious and primitive desires to further the species. It's not like straight women wake up in the morning and think "today I'll live for what some dude on the internet thinks."


If you were the type of child to ask your mother “momma am I pretty” it’s no different than wanting men’s approval as a grown ass woman. I’m not on of them but there are plenty.


So, you judge yourself as better than other women, particularly straight women?


We’re you one of the “mama am I pretty” women? Why else would you attack me over that? Lol


No. I was always told I was pretty. I never got a chance to ask.


I was always told how ridiculously smart I am which is still the compliment I’d rather receive. If I could be I’d be a floating brain in a jar that did nothing but read and learn vs having a body and having to deal with people judging what is essentially only a shell that your higher consciousness lives in.
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I'm gonna be brutally honest with you. That's the best compliment that anyone could receive. Is how smart they are as oppose to receiving attractive compliments or pretty. Being attractive or pretty people look at you and may even think you dumb.
Stupid question. Women aren't aliens
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


How do people know that you’re fat online?


I’ve posted pics. The thing people don’t understand is that even if I looked like I got hit in the face with a shovel I’d still have tons of admirers because of all the Aries and Scorpio I have in my chart 😋 I’ve never had trouble finding a solid mate when I’ve wanted one. It’s easier for women though I believe.
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Yeah with confidence, looks and size doesn’t matter much. Your insides shine more and it draws people in!
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


How do people know that you’re fat online?


I’ve posted pics. The thing people don’t understand is that even if I looked like I got hit in the face with a shovel I’d still have tons of admirers because of all the Aries and Scorpio I have in my chart 😋 I’ve never had trouble finding a solid mate when I’ve wanted one. It’s easier for women though I believe.


Yeah with confidence, looks and size doesn’t matter much. Your insides shine more and it draws people in!


Women are less picky about looks in general so dating women I’ve never really had to worry about it. One of the women I’ve loved the most described me as “ugly sexy” but she focused on the sexy part lol
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Lmao. Wtf?! Wow. I can’t believe she actually admitted that and you still liked her.
It's the beauty industry and their cookie cutter standards. I think society is getting better at promoting different women but behind that there are still people criticizing that and there is still conditions on it. For example, there is an absolutely gorgeous African model named Khoudia Diop who is getting praised for her very dark skin. But she talks about how she used to get made fun of by other kids because she was so dark and she is hoping to help change the standard for light skinned models. And people are loving it and I have not seen one neg review of her....I'm sure they are out there but its rare.

However, when you have plus sized models trying to change the impossible stick figure standard of beauty there is all this backlash about how fat people shouldn't be models...despite the fact that 80% or more of the population is overweight. So, despite the fact plus sized models are getting more popular "regular" people still see the negativity surrounded by it and try to focus on the more popular thin models and that standard of beauty.

As far as ass and breast. Men always talk about big tits and ass, so yeah, women with small breast and asses will go through that surgery in order to have them.
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Lololayyyyeee since this thread done turn into lesbian versus straight I figured what the hell🤷. I was trying to find "we love lesbians" chant on the jerry Springer show but to no avail. The ultimate truth is....I do love lesbians for real.
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Because some women compete against other women using perceived thought of what a man would consider beautiful.


Yeah, like they think men love false eyelashes, hair weaves, fake boobs, botox face, falsely plumped lips, fake booty, etc.,. Men love this stuff.


Aren't those the women who get followed on Instagram? If men want natural, their follows and likes are sending the wrong message.
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Because some women compete against other women using perceived thought of what a man would consider beautiful.


Yeah, like they think men love false eyelashes, hair weaves, fake boobs, botox face, falsely plumped lips, fake booty, etc.,. Men love this stuff.


Aren't those the women who get followed on Instagram? If men want natural, their follows and likes are sending the wrong message.


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They probably think her hair looks like that naturally too and doesn't require hours of styling (and likely some hair extensions.)
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it's the rolled out of bed first thing in the morning look...
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men are wired visually. we don't like to accept that but deep down, we're wired to respond to that.

women are wired emotionally. so a man who touches our "checkmarks" with his personality wins no matter what he looks like.


It's the same reason men compete with each other for resources, status and power (both material and psychological etc).


Gay men compete visually too, for this reason.


It's all lizard brain stuff and the answer is ugly and uncomfortable for many.


Agreed. Trends tell men what is hot. They think it's their true preference, but it's media-influenced, which is why Elle McPherson was perfect and considered "The Body" in the 90s, but now it would be someone shorter and curvier. Men comply and talk about what is hot. Women try to match it because subconsciously we know how we look determines how many guys will give us a chance.
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This is so sad
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Because some women compete against other women using perceived thought of what a man would consider beautiful.


Yeah, like they think men love false eyelashes, hair weaves, fake boobs, botox face, falsely plumped lips, fake booty, etc.,. Men love this stuff.


Aren't those the women who get followed on Instagram? If men want natural, their follows and likes are sending the wrong message.
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Men love it when women are so desperate they will do anything to get validated. That's the 1st step to easy sex.



The girls I hung out with in college would have fell out laughing if a group of girls clomped into the room on tall-ass heels with fake hair, eyebrows, and nails looking like fat-assed drag queens, but times have changed. That clown look is in now.


Oh it's in full affect.
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men are wired visually. we don't like to accept that but deep down, we're wired to respond to that.

women are wired emotionally. so a man who touches our "checkmarks" with his personality wins no matter what he looks like.


It's the same reason men compete with each other for resources, status and power (both material and psychological etc).


Gay men compete visually too, for this reason.


It's all lizard brain stuff and the answer is ugly and uncomfortable for many.


Agreed. Trends tell men what is hot. They think it's their true preference, but it's media-influenced, which is why Elle McPherson was perfect and considered "The Body" in the 90s, but now it would be someone shorter and curvier. Men comply and talk about what is hot. Women try to match it because subconsciously we know how we look determines how many guys will give us a chance.


This is so sad


I was thinking the other day, in Victorian times every man must have thought his wife's body was bangin' since he would have only seen a handful of naked women's bodies in person before marriage (maybe a couple prostitutes and a loose farmer's daughter in his village). I would not want to live in Victorian times when women were basically property, but that was an upside. *shrugs*
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I'm attracted to women the way u described women being attracted to men
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


How do people know that you’re fat online?


I’ve posted pics. The thing people don’t understand is that even if I looked like I got hit in the face with a shovel I’d still have tons of admirers because of all the Aries and Scorpio I have in my chart 😋 I’ve never had trouble finding a solid mate when I’ve wanted one. It’s easier for women though I believe.


Yeah with confidence, looks and size doesn’t matter much. Your insides shine more and it draws people in!


Women are less picky about looks in general so dating women I’ve never really had to worry about it. One of the women I’ve loved the most described me as “ugly sexy” but she focused on the sexy part lol


Lmao. Wtf?! Wow. I can’t believe she actually admitted that and you still liked her.


I was already so in love with her by that point. Lol. We ended up not being together shortly after except we kept having sex for a while after. If I told you stories about her you’d think she was awful LOL
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At least you have thick skin, I guess.
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


How do people know that you’re fat online?


I’ve posted pics. The thing people don’t understand is that even if I looked like I got hit in the face with a shovel I’d still have tons of admirers because of all the Aries and Scorpio I have in my chart 😋 I’ve never had trouble finding a solid mate when I’ve wanted one. It’s easier for women though I believe.


Yeah with confidence, looks and size doesn’t matter much. Your insides shine more and it draws people in!


Women are less picky about looks in general so dating women I’ve never really had to worry about it. One of the women I’ve loved the most described me as “ugly sexy” but she focused on the sexy part lol


Lmao. Wtf?! Wow. I can’t believe she actually admitted that and you still liked her.


I was already so in love with her by that point. Lol. We ended up not being together shortly after except we kept having sex for a while after. If I told you stories about her you’d think she was awful LOL


At least you have thick skin, I guess.


I’m average looking and she looked like a model. But looks is not why she was with me 🤣
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I get it. When the chemistry and sex is good. Looks don’t really matter. I’m the same way, as shallow as I pretend to be. All I basically need is a deep connection to the person to be and stay attracted to them.

But a shitty attitude is a turn off. I’d be done with someone quick for being disrespectful and saying awful things to me.
I don’t wear makeup everyday. 4-5 days out of the week, I’m all Naturale.


Wearing makeup has become kind of ritualistic for me. Its fun to do before going out and it helps me get in a really excited mood. I usually go for the more natural unmade makeup look.


Men are interesting though. Most guys say they want a natural woman, but don’t even bother to look at most females unless she puts some type of effort into her appearance
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I hate the way I look and I am very insecure. 😱
I don't know why you hate the way you look. You look perfectly good to me. Waaaaay above average. Tho sometimes me wanna think you post your picture on the front page more times than often just to get a compliment out of insecurity. One or two times is good enough. Same for everyone else who posts pics more than 12 times. I will still remember how y'all look.
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


How do people know that you’re fat online?


I’ve posted pics. The thing people don’t understand is that even if I looked like I got hit in the face with a shovel I’d still have tons of admirers because of all the Aries and Scorpio I have in my chart 😋 I’ve never had trouble finding a solid mate when I’ve wanted one. It’s easier for women though I believe.


Yeah with confidence, looks and size doesn’t matter much. Your insides shine more and it draws people in!


Women are less picky about looks in general so dating women I’ve never really had to worry about it. One of the women I’ve loved the most described me as “ugly sexy” but she focused on the sexy part lol


Lmao. Wtf?! Wow. I can’t believe she actually admitted that and you still liked her.


I was already so in love with her by that point. Lol. We ended up not being together shortly after except we kept having sex for a while after. If I told you stories about her you’d think she was awful LOL


At least you have thick skin, I guess.


I’m average looking and she looked like a model. But looks is not why she was with me 🤣


I get it. When the chemistry and sex is good. Looks don’t really matter. I’m the same way, as shallow as I pretend to be. All I basically need is a deep connection to the person to be and stay attracted to them.

But a shitty attitude is a turn off. I’d be done with someone quick for being disrespectful and saying awful things to me.


She wasn’t like it when I first met her. However she ended in saying shit like “have you seen me?” And said certain friends of mine weren’t attractive enough to think she’s attractive and was dead serious. Given how shallow she ended up being I didn’t take it personally. She was the type to break up with people specifically because they sucked at sex. Unbelievably high sexual standards. Which was good for my ego obvLaughing
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Lmao. I'm that way. I'm not super shallow with my looks though, but if sex sucks, I can't see a long term relationship with the person. I don't want to be content with sucky sex, I'd cheat Big Grin
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I hate the way I look and I am very insecure. 😱


I don't know why you hate the way you look. You look perfectly good to me. Waaaaay above average. Tho sometimes me wanna think you post your picture on the front page more times than often just to get a compliment out of insecurity. One or two times is good enough. Same for everyone else who posts pics more than 12 times. I will still remember how y'all look.

No, I just like selfies. I'm not into validations from others because I don't like the way I look. It's not insecurity, it's just reality in my eyes. I know what I consider beautiful, and why I don't like my appearance. I don't question other's opinions nor do they make me feel anyway...It is nice to hear a compliment, especially when You are beautiful to the one You love...but in my eyes I am trash. It might be the Libra Rising...or perhaps Pisces Venus...I'm lost on this one...
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I don't think it's your Libra Rising. What other placements do you have?


What's the use of taking a bunch of selfies, if you're unhappy with your looks?

Usually people take selfies because they are happy with what they see, unless thy are funny looking ones or joke selfies. I'm just wondering why you are fine with looking at a bunch of selfies, but are still unhappy with your looks. It's a curious question on my end.
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I hate the way I look and I am very insecure. 😱


I don't know why you hate the way you look. You look perfectly good to me. Waaaaay above average. Tho sometimes me wanna think you post your picture on the front page more times than often just to get a compliment out of insecurity. One or two times is good enough. Same for everyone else who posts pics more than 12 times. I will still remember how y'all look.

No, I just like selfies. I'm not into validations from others because I don't like the way I look. It's not insecurity, it's just reality in my eyes. I know what I consider beautiful, and why I don't like my appearance. I don't question other's opinions nor do they make me feel anyway...It is nice to hear a compliment, especially when You are beautiful to the one You love...but in my eyes I am trash. It might be the Libra Rising...or perhaps Pisces Venus...I'm lost on this one...
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The only thing I'm extremely insecure about is my stomach. Ain't nothing pretty about that. I'm just not made to have six or twelve pak abs. Still I'm not gonna let that bother me. As long as I keep my shirt on or show other upper parts of my bod wearing a wife beater. I think it's probably safe to blame all my cancer counterparts. I love to cook and eat.


I definitely don't think it's the Libra rising that have you feeling this way.
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I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


How do people know that you’re fat online?


I’ve posted pics. The thing people don’t understand is that even if I looked like I got hit in the face with a shovel I’d still have tons of admirers because of all the Aries and Scorpio I have in my chart 😋 I’ve never had trouble finding a solid mate when I’ve wanted one. It’s easier for women though I believe.


Yeah with confidence, looks and size doesn’t matter much. Your insides shine more and it draws people in!


Women are less picky about looks in general so dating women I’ve never really had to worry about it. One of the women I’ve loved the most described me as “ugly sexy” but she focused on the sexy part lol


Lmao. Wtf?! Wow. I can’t believe she actually admitted that and you still liked her.


I was already so in love with her by that point. Lol. We ended up not being together shortly after except we kept having sex for a while after. If I told you stories about her you’d think she was awful LOL


At least you have thick skin, I guess.


I’m average looking and she looked like a model. But looks is not why she was with me 🤣


I get it. When the chemistry and sex is good. Looks don’t really matter. I’m the same way, as shallow as I pretend to be. All I basically need is a deep connection to the person to be and stay attracted to them.

But a shitty attitude is a turn off. I’d be done with someone quick for being disrespectful and saying awful things to me.


She wasn’t like it when I first met her. However she ended in saying shit like “have you seen me?” And said certain friends of mine weren’t attractive enough to think she’s attractive and was dead serious. Given how shallow she ended up being I didn’t take it personally. She was the type to break up with people specifically because they sucked at sex. Unbelievably high sexual standards. Which was good for my ego obvLaughing


Lmao. I'm that way. I'm not super shallow with my looks though, but if sex sucks, I can't see a long term relationship with the person. I don't want to be content with sucky sex, I'd cheat Big Grin


Ive not been as compatible with anyone else sexually how I was with her. Cap mars and Aries Venus in the 8th (mine is in the 2nd) we have some pretty nuts synastry. She was a cheater too when people were bad. She never cheated on me though and after we broke up she broke up with several women specifically so we could have sex again. The issue though is I hurt her too much for us to be together any longer.
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Oh, well I guess you two had issues with hurting each other. I don't understand toxic relationships. I could never, they just aren't fun to me.


So you two had the same placements huh? Wish I could find that, then I would have no issues with how sexual I am and how I go after what I want, once I find out what that is.
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Because some women compete against other women using perceived thought of what a man would consider beautiful.


Yeah, like they think men love false eyelashes, hair weaves, fake boobs, botox face, falsely plumped lips, fake booty, etc.,. Men love this stuff.


Aren't those the women who get followed on Instagram? If men want natural, their follows and likes are sending the wrong message.


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I don’t need makeup, it actually makes my skin look worse


Unless it’s rouge or blush
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you're lucky. the only thing that improves my looks is a dimly lit room and only then at a certain angle when people think i am someone else.
i mostly wear makeup to brag to other women


attracting shallow men is just a side effect
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I hate the way I look and I am very insecure. 😱


I don't know why you hate the way you look. You look perfectly good to me. Waaaaay above average. Tho sometimes me wanna think you post your picture on the front page more times than often just to get a compliment out of insecurity. One or two times is good enough. Same for everyone else who posts pics more than 12 times. I will still remember how y'all look.

No, I just like selfies. I'm not into validations from others because I don't like the way I look. It's not insecurity, it's just reality in my eyes. I know what I consider beautiful, and why I don't like my appearance. I don't question other's opinions nor do they make me feel anyway...It is nice to hear a compliment, especially when You are beautiful to the one You love...but in my eyes I am trash. It might be the Libra Rising...or perhaps Pisces Venus...I'm lost on this one...


The only thing I'm extremely insecure about is my stomach. Ain't nothing pretty about that. I'm just not made to have six or twelve pak abs. Still I'm not gonna let that bother me. As long as I keep my shirt on or show other upper parts of my bod wearing a wife beater. I think it's probably safe to blame all my cancer counterparts. I love to cook and eat.


I definitely don't think it's the Libra rising that have you feeling this way.

wife beater?
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Yeah. It's a tank top shirt. That's the only way my muscular body will look good in. That's about the closest thing to showing off my body.


Please note that I don't wear that just to show off my muscles just to make me look good and have more confident. I wears it because that's my house attire.
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I hate the way I look and I am very insecure. 😱


I don't know why you hate the way you look. You look perfectly good to me. Waaaaay above average. Tho sometimes me wanna think you post your picture on the front page more times than often just to get a compliment out of insecurity. One or two times is good enough. Same for everyone else who posts pics more than 12 times. I will still remember how y'all look.

No, I just like selfies. I'm not into validations from others because I don't like the way I look. It's not insecurity, it's just reality in my eyes. I know what I consider beautiful, and why I don't like my appearance. I don't question other's opinions nor do they make me feel anyway...It is nice to hear a compliment, especially when You are beautiful to the one You love...but in my eyes I am trash. It might be the Libra Rising...or perhaps Pisces Venus...I'm lost on this one...


I don't think it's your Libra Rising. What other placements do you have?


What's the use of taking a bunch of selfies, if you're unhappy with your looks?

Usually people take selfies because they are happy with what they see, unless thy are funny looking ones or joke selfies. I'm just wondering why you are fine with looking at a bunch of selfies, but are still unhappy with your looks. It's a curious question on my end.

But You are right...selfies are a form of seeking affirmation from others about the way You look. If nothing, America is great for psychology studies. The best Uni's on the subject...and a lot state that selfies are a sign of deep personality issues...I suppose a lot of research done currently is tied to the relationship between social media and human psychology.
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I was just wondering because most people take and post selfies because of the satisfaction with how the picture looks, but you make valid points on liking the other parts of the picture.
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i mostly wear makeup to brag to other women


attracting shallow men is just a side effect


it's not bragging if it's not your real face
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i'm being sarcastic
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I hate the way I look and I am very insecure. 😱


I don't know why you hate the way you look. You look perfectly good to me. Waaaaay above average. Tho sometimes me wanna think you post your picture on the front page more times than often just to get a compliment out of insecurity. One or two times is good enough. Same for everyone else who posts pics more than 12 times. I will still remember how y'all look.

No, I just like selfies. I'm not into validations from others because I don't like the way I look. It's not insecurity, it's just reality in my eyes. I know what I consider beautiful, and why I don't like my appearance. I don't question other's opinions nor do they make me feel anyway...It is nice to hear a compliment, especially when You are beautiful to the one You love...but in my eyes I am trash. It might be the Libra Rising...or perhaps Pisces Venus...I'm lost on this one...


The only thing I'm extremely insecure about is my stomach. Ain't nothing pretty about that. I'm just not made to have six or twelve pak abs. Still I'm not gonna let that bother me. As long as I keep my shirt on or show other upper parts of my bod wearing a wife beater. I think it's probably safe to blame all my cancer counterparts. I love to cook and eat.


I definitely don't think it's the Libra rising that have you feeling this way.

wife beater?


Yeah. It's a tank top shirt. That's the only way my muscular body will look good in. That's about the closest thing to showing off my body.


Please note that I don't wear that just to show off my muscles just to make me look good and have more confident. I wears it because that's my house attire.

why is called the wife beater. Does it have something to do with Rednecks ( no insults intended )? Post a picture of it so I can be sure that it's what I think it is.
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I honestly couldn't tell you why they call it wife beater. I first heard that right here from another user a long time ago. I was always calling it tank top and now these users got me calling it wife beater. It looks like this

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I often wear those in multiple colors with matching sweat pants.
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Posted by nikkistar

Because some women compete against other women using perceived thought of what a man would consider beautiful.


Yeah, like they think men love false eyelashes, hair weaves, fake boobs, botox face, falsely plumped lips, fake booty, etc.,. Men love this stuff.


Aren't those the women who get followed on Instagram? If men want natural, their follows and likes are sending the wrong message.


Men love it when women are so desperate they will do anything to get validated. That's the 1st step to easy sex.



The girls I hung out with in college would have fell out laughing if a group of girls clomped into the room on tall-ass heels with fake hair, eyebrows, and nails looking like fat-assed drag queens, but times have changed. That clown look is in now.


Oh it's in full affect.


I sometimes feel like a plain Jane because every woman when even going shopping has like a thousand pounds of makeup on


It’s ridiculous


But men really do prefer it
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They do. Even the ones who want 'natural' look. Like bro if only you knew that her natural look took concealer, contour, blush, highlighter, eyelash extensions, eyebrow pencil, and lip gloss lol.
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men are wired visually. we don't like to accept that but deep down, we're wired to respond to that.

women are wired emotionally. so a man who touches our "checkmarks" with his personality wins no matter what he looks like.


It's the same reason men compete with each other for resources, status and power (both material and psychological etc).


Gay men compete visually too, for this reason.


It's all lizard brain stuff and the answer is ugly and uncomfortable for many.


Agreed. Trends tell men what is hot. They think it's their true preference, but it's media-influenced, which is why Elle McPherson was perfect and considered "The Body" in the 90s, but now it would be someone shorter and curvier. Men comply and talk about what is hot. Women try to match it because subconsciously we know how we look determines how many guys will give us a chance.


This is so sad


I was thinking the other day, in Victorian times every man must have thought his wife's body was bangin' since he would have only seen a handful of naked women's bodies in person before marriage (maybe a couple prostitutes and a loose farmer's daughter in his village). I would not want to live in Victorian times when women were basically property, but that was an upside. *shrugs*


I'm attracted to women the way u described women being attracted to men


Wacha mean? I say all kinds of shit. lol
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The part about personality being a dominant factor
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Posted by alario

I don’t give a fuck if men are attracted to me so no make up or any of that bs for me. I’ve had 3 people in the last two days tells me they thought i was early 20s and not 35 like I actually am. Make up hasn’t aged my skin so I still have a youthful look to me. I look better in person than I do in pictures though. Women would keep their looks longer if they didn’t ruin themselves with make up and shit. Trying to become attractive to men is what ruins most women’s looks. I’m. It saying I’m attractive I’m average at best but I look just like I did when I was younger because I haven’t artificially aged my face.


How novel that a lesbian wouldn't care if men are attracted to her. I mean, come on, really?


I know plenty of lesbians that still value men’s opinions on attractiveness and shit. I don’t. I don’t give a fuck about men’s opinions of me. Think about every “no fat chicks” delusionally also fat guy (and I could name names even on dxp) that think their opinion on a woman’s weight or attractiveness is important lol. I am fat specifically because I don’t want to be attractive to men and my natural metabolism is so high I had to be super unhealthy to gain this weight. But it makes me happy. Women in general aren’t as concerned about that shit as men are. So only dealing with self important idiots online who tell me I’m fat as if I didn’t know or didn’t choose it to try to hurt me. Lawl.


We're talking about subconscious and primitive desires to further the species. It's not like straight women wake up in the morning and think "today I'll live for what some dude on the internet thinks."
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Yeah, but apparently it isn't working because every year the birthrate keeps getting lower. It was lower in 2019 than 2018.

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