Posted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by FactCheck
He cut off his own finger... and wrote amber heard is a hore on the wall in his own blood. They're both probably ass holes..
He’s financially retareded that tells me everythingclick to expand
Posted by LittleStarPosted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
Submission has nothing to do with respect.click to expand
Posted by ArilovesAquPosted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.click to expand
Posted by ArilovesAquPosted by virgokingPosted by ArilovesAquPosted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.
how so.... Is there more respect for men now or back than which one. There is a lot of Johnny depp guys running around they just don't say anything.
You’re a 32 year old man and all you post about is how bad women are.click to expand
Posted by tizianiPosted by jeane
Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.
Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.
It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.click to expand
Posted by virgokingJust a side point but why are you calling women hoes?Posted by ArilovesAquPosted by virgokingPosted by ArilovesAquPosted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.
how so.... Is there more respect for men now or back than which one. There is a lot of Johnny depp guys running around they just don't say anything.
You’re a 32 year old man and all you post about is how bad women are.
Are you saying there is no such thing as bad women. Are the women my age or older talking about bad men also trouble. To be clear I never say all women are bad there is a group of bad apples yes. My point is a lot of men have a hard time thinking a women could be evil especially if she is pretty. Like the title says vet your hoes. Women should vet men I know there are evil men.click to expand
Posted by LittleStarThe OP sees what he wants to. Says more about him than the situation itself.
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
Posted by tizianiYou’re right. Once your name gets caught up in that ish, it’s always gonna be there. Lucky for them and you, by proxy, it’s all about the patriarchy and you guys’ll be fine.Posted by virgokingPosted by tizianiPosted by jeane
Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.
Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.
It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.
would you say the same in the reverse.
I'd say I've been in Depp's situation. And I've often got caught up on trying to set the record straight on semantics.
But it doesn't do much even when you're vindicated on the petty details. You still have the mess of your personal relationships to confront. And nobody saying "yeah man, yeah yeah she was wrong" is going to do it for ya.click to expand
Posted by ArilovesAquPosted by virgokingPosted by ArilovesAquPosted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.
how so.... Is there more respect for men now or back than which one. There is a lot of Johnny depp guys running around they just don't say anything.
You’re a 32 year old man and all you post about is how bad women are.click to expand
Posted by virgokingPosted by LittleStarPosted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
Submission has nothing to do with respect.
it's the highest form of respect if you can't respect your man enough to submit leave that man alone you are just wasting his time.click to expand
Posted by tizianiBecause whether a man’s guilty or not, more often than not, it’s a slap on the wrist and nothing more. It’s why we get the swim times of the Brock Turners and the Kobe Bryants of the world get to rewrite their stories. Etc...Posted by hippiecritePosted by tizianiPosted by virgokingPosted by tizianiPosted by jeane
Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.
Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.
It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.
would you say the same in the reverse.
I'd say I've been in Depp's situation. And I've often got caught up on trying to set the record straight on semantics.
But it doesn't do much even when you're vindicated on the petty details. You still have the mess of your personal relationships to confront. And nobody saying "yeah man, yeah yeah she was wrong" is going to do it for ya.
You’re right. Once your name gets caught up in that ish, it’s always gonna be there. Lucky for them and you, by proxy, it’s all about the patriarchy and you guys’ll be fine.
Where does the patriarchy come into it? Genuinely askingclick to expand
Posted by virgokingRespect is earned, not just auto given because you have a penis. Men don't behave like they did back in the day either. There is a problem on both sides.Posted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.click to expand
Posted by hippiecriteYeah that boys will be boys bullshit. But when women get wild, we're no good. Hypocrisy at it's finest. Therefore this thread has no valid points whatsoever.Posted by tizianiPosted by hippiecritePosted by tizianiPosted by virgokingPosted by tizianiPosted by jeane
Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.
Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.
It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.
would you say the same in the reverse.
I'd say I've been in Depp's situation. And I've often got caught up on trying to set the record straight on semantics.
But it doesn't do much even when you're vindicated on the petty details. You still have the mess of your personal relationships to confront. And nobody saying "yeah man, yeah yeah she was wrong" is going to do it for ya.
You’re right. Once your name gets caught up in that ish, it’s always gonna be there. Lucky for them and you, by proxy, it’s all about the patriarchy and you guys’ll be fine.
Where does the patriarchy come into it? Genuinely asking
Because whether a man’s guilty or not, more often than not, it’s a slap on the wrist and nothing more. It’s why we get the swim times of the Brock Turners and the Kobe Bryants of the world get to rewrite their stories. Etc...click to expand
Posted by alexscariesUranus conjuct Mars and Pluto
Johnny Depp has a history of abusing women it's just coming out now. If he was a has-been it would have come out sooner.
Posted by OnigenIntelligent thinking 👍Posted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
Respect is earned, not just auto given because you have a penis. Men don't behave like they did back in the day either. There is a problem on both sides.click to expand
Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsPosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does her.
Victim blaming. Classy.click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseYour parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.Posted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.click to expand
Posted by FactCheckI’m conflicted cause she played the battered woman role well. Even donated her entire divorce settlement to charities focused on stopping violence towards women. Also to children hospital as well.
He cut off his own finger... and wrote amber heard is a hore on the wall in his own blood. They're both probably ass holes..
Posted by Unwording
Handing out Xanax like peppermints during an argument— she sounds like a pro.
Posted by 7thHouseHere are my couple questions for you:Posted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.
In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.
Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseAbuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.Posted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.
In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.
Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.
Here are my couple questions for you:
1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?
2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?
People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?
I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.
Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.click to expand
Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.
In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.
Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.
Here are my couple questions for you:
1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?
2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?
People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?
I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.
Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.
Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.
How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.
My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.
Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseNo, they won’t say it but it’s obvious because they have nothing good to say about the abuser and they tell you about the abuse they are putting up with and then you find out that they aren’t even relying on the abuser financially. Rather the abuser is dependent on them financially. So why are you with them? Because of the one thing the abuser has: his gorgeous looks.Posted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.
In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.
Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.
Here are my couple questions for you:
1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?
2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?
People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?
I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.
Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.
Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.
How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.
My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.
Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.
I wasn’t referring to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation in my last post. I have seen plenty of abusive relationships lately where people are tolerating abuse from their eyecandies.
Did they specifically say it was because the other person looks good or is their eyecandy so they tolerate it?click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseMost times people don’t want to see it because otherwise they will need to make a decision to walk away and walking away from a toxic person that you are emotionally attached to isn’t easy. People choose to ignore, not necessarily that it takes time. My aunt is in an abusive relationship and she won’t budge or wants to acknowledge the situation because she’s in love with the abuser.Posted by tizianiPosted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.
In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.
Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.
Here are my couple questions for you:
1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?
2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?
People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?
I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.
Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.
Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.
How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.
My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.
Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.
Even if she is the abuser, I’d bet the very same embarrassment/shame throws of emotion you describe probably applies to her too.
Another day, another wrong decision.
It’s hard for me to imagine anyone grows up picturing that they’re going to wind up the monster as an adult.
True. No one wakes up one day and decides they wanna be in a bad relationship. Just sometimes, it takes time to see it.click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShine
Men who call women hoes can't be taken seriously or respected
Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.
In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.
Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.
Here are my couple questions for you:
1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?
2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?
People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?
I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.
Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.
Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.
How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.
My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.
Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.
I wasn’t referring to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation in my last post. I have seen plenty of abusive relationships lately where people are tolerating abuse from their eyecandies.
Did they specifically say it was because the other person looks good or is their eyecandy so they tolerate it?
No, they won’t say it but it’s obvious because they have nothing good to say about the abuser and they tell you about the abuse they are putting up with and then you find out that they aren’t even relying on the abuser financially. Rather the abuser is dependent on them financially. So why are you with them? Because of the one thing the abuser has: his gorgeous looks.
Basically, everything your saying is your judgment not the actual reality. Since they didn't say it, then didn't it cross your mind that you could be wrong?click to expand
Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.
Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.
Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.
In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.
Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.
Here are my couple questions for you:
1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?
2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?
People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?
I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.
Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.
Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.
How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.
My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.
Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.
I wasn’t referring to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation in my last post. I have seen plenty of abusive relationships lately where people are tolerating abuse from their eyecandies.
P.S your safety is YOUR responsibility and no compassionate argument of yours is going to trump this statement.
Well good on you for insisting on your opinion. But then like I said, very hard to take your closed off opinion seriously because it's all based on what you heard from people around you. You cannot relate because you live in your perfect, logical world and did not experience it first hand nor did the people around you admit why they remain in an abusive relationship. Probably because of the fear of judgment. Again, it's like getting a medical diagnosis from Google vs an Actual doctor.click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseMy opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.
@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.
Posted by MyStarsShineQuite insightful yourself, sis. Cheers.Posted by OnigenPosted by virgokingPosted by LittleStar
Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
Respect is earned, not just auto given because you have a penis. Men don't behave like they did back in the day either. There is a problem on both sides.
Intelligent thinking 👍click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseI hate it when people call others judgy/judgmental. We all judge so stop with your self-righteousness. I’m human and I judge and you gotta recognize that you do too. That’s first step for you. When you say that the abused shouldn’t get blamed, you are essentially absolving them of their part, which they have in their condition/state. In other words, they do contribute. You’re just circumventing that with semantics. Anyways, I don’t agree with you so let’s just agree to disagree as opposed to just keep going in circles.Posted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHouse
@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.
My opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.
And don’t assume that I am perceiving things when I have been told by the abused person all the abuse they are tolerating. I’m not some third party looking in and assuming and passing my judgment. I was told those things by the person in the situation.
"Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay." judgy. How do you know this? Did you ask every abused person why they stayed? Again, your opinion vs fact. You also did mention earlier that someone you know was with a guy who abuses her and he let's him because he's good looking even if she did not openly admit to it. But then again, you might be wrong don't you think? I've already challenged your biased opinion. also again don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the abused did not contribute. I said I don't agree with the abused getting blamed. There is a difference.click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseSo then learn to recognize that you judge as well. I get what you’re all about- “blame solely the perpetrator, the victim is a helpless poor sap who needed to be saved by saviour.” You’re barking on the wrong door. You need to seek out Jesus.Posted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHouse
@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.
My opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.
And don’t assume that I am perceiving things when I have been told by the abused person all the abuse they are tolerating. I’m not some third party looking in and assuming and passing my judgment. I was told those things by the person in the situation.
"Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay." judgy. How do you know this? Did you ask every abused person why they stayed? Again, your opinion vs fact. You also did mention earlier that someone you know was with a guy who abuses her and he let's him because he's good looking even if she did not openly admit to it. But then again, you might be wrong don't you think? I've already challenged your biased opinion. also again don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the abused did not contribute. I said I don't agree with the abused getting blamed. There is a difference.
I hate it when people call others judgy/judgmental. We all judge so stop with your self-righteousness. I’m human and I judge and you gotta recognize that you do too. That’s first step for you. When you say that the abused shouldn’t get blamed, you are essentially absolving them of their part, which they have in their condition/state. In other words, they do contribute. You’re just circumventing that with semantics. Anyways, I don’t agree with you so let’s just agree to disagree as opposed to just keep going in circles.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/10/the-psychology-of-victim-blaming/502661/
And for the record, don't tell me what my first step is. You're no boss of mine.click to expand
Posted by 7thHouseI would love to easily quote you from your previous post but I don’t care to drag this on. ByePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHousePosted by aquarius09Posted by 7thHouse
@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.
My opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.
And don’t assume that I am perceiving things when I have been told by the abused person all the abuse they are tolerating. I’m not some third party looking in and assuming and passing my judgment. I was told those things by the person in the situation.
"Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay." judgy. How do you know this? Did you ask every abused person why they stayed? Again, your opinion vs fact. You also did mention earlier that someone you know was with a guy who abuses her and he let's him because he's good looking even if she did not openly admit to it. But then again, you might be wrong don't you think? I've already challenged your biased opinion. also again don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the abused did not contribute. I said I don't agree with the abused getting blamed. There is a difference.
I hate it when people call others judgy/judgmental. We all judge so stop with your self-righteousness. I’m human and I judge and you gotta recognize that you do too. That’s first step for you. When you say that the abused shouldn’t get blamed, you are essentially absolving them of their part, which they have in their condition/state. In other words, they do contribute. You’re just circumventing that with semantics. Anyways, I don’t agree with you so let’s just agree to disagree as opposed to just keep going in circles.
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/10/the-psychology-of-victim-blaming/502661/
And for the record, don't tell me what my first step is. You're no boss of mine.
So then learn to recognize that you judge as well. I get what you’re all about- “blame solely the perpetrator, the victim is a helpless poor sap who needed to be saved by saviour.” You’re barking on the wrong door. You need to seek out Jesus.
Again, putting words in my mouth. I don't think I said blame the perpetrator solely. Where in this thread did I say that? Lol no point talking to a close minded bitch isn't it? Lol have a good day.click to expand
Posted by Aliensusedourbogroll
http://www.kyrackramer.com/2017/12/15/johnny-depps-history-of-violence/
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollI see it from another angle. He met his match in the abuse dept. He has a history of violence to others (no record of him being abusive to exes), she has no known history of either. They were both fighting to see who could be more abusive and manipulative, but she won because she's not the one with the history of violence.
He dished it out, she dished it right back. I bet it’s the first time someone dared fought back. He’s well know for his temper.