Vet these hoes #justiceForJonny depp

This topic was created in the The Powder Room forum by virgoking on Saturday, February 1, 2020 and has 69 replies.
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Saw this hashtag on Twitter looked into it.I forgot his ex wife claim he was an abuser, luckily he record her. She hit him, even cut off his finger. Moral of the story is vet these hoes before you date them. We don't live in the 50s were women knew how to behave. Unfortunately most women today are toxic with small group that is not, which is the reason why as a man you must vet these hoes you can't take the risk. This man is super handsome and rich you would think something like this could not happen to a man like this but it can.

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I meant to put this on the man cave oh well
Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
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Posted by FactCheck

He cut off his own finger... and wrote amber heard is a hore on the wall in his own blood. They're both probably ass holes..


He’s financially retareded that tells me everything
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How so
Posted by LittleStar
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Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


Submission has nothing to do with respect.
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it's the highest form of respect if you can't respect your man enough to submit leave that man alone you are just wasting his time.
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Posted by virgoking
Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.
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how so.... Is there more respect for men now or back than which one. There is a lot of Johnny depp guys running around they just don't say anything.
You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.
Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.
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Posted by virgoking
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Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.

how so.... Is there more respect for men now or back than which one. There is a lot of Johnny depp guys running around they just don't say anything.


You’re a 32 year old man and all you post about is how bad women are.
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Are you saying there is no such thing as bad women. Are the women my age or older talking about bad men also trouble. To be clear I never say all women are bad there is a group of bad apples yes. My point is a lot of men have a hard time thinking a women could be evil especially if she is pretty. Like the title says vet your hoes. Women should vet men I know there are evil men.
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Posted by jeane

Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.


Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.

It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.
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would you say the same in the reverse.
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Posted by virgoking
Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.

how so.... Is there more respect for men now or back than which one. There is a lot of Johnny depp guys running around they just don't say anything.


You’re a 32 year old man and all you post about is how bad women are.

Are you saying there is no such thing as bad women. Are the women my age or older talking about bad men also trouble. To be clear I never say all women are bad there is a group of bad apples yes. My point is a lot of men have a hard time thinking a women could be evil especially if she is pretty. Like the title says vet your hoes. Women should vet men I know there are evil men.
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Just a side point but why are you calling women hoes?
Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.
The OP sees what he wants to. Says more about him than the situation itself.
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Posted by virgoking
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Posted by jeane

Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.


Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.

It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.

would you say the same in the reverse.


I'd say I've been in Depp's situation. And I've often got caught up on trying to set the record straight on semantics.

But it doesn't do much even when you're vindicated on the petty details. You still have the mess of your personal relationships to confront. And nobody saying "yeah man, yeah yeah she was wrong" is going to do it for ya.
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You’re right. Once your name gets caught up in that ish, it’s always gonna be there. Lucky for them and you, by proxy, it’s all about the patriarchy and you guys’ll be fine.
Men who call women hoes can't be taken seriously or respected
Fuck, this shit sounds familiar. As in Virguy=crazy bitch lulz
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Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


You sound like a very troubled and dangerous individual.

how so.... Is there more respect for men now or back than which one. There is a lot of Johnny depp guys running around they just don't say anything.


You’re a 32 year old man and all you post about is how bad women are.
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oof
a taurus being physically abusive

a gemini accused of 'splitting'

sTerEotYPes
Posted by virgoking
Posted by LittleStar
Posted by virgoking
Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


Submission has nothing to do with respect.

it's the highest form of respect if you can't respect your man enough to submit leave that man alone you are just wasting his time.
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toxic/crazy is toxic/crazy. Has very little to do with gender. If you are only interested in submissive woman who do and say what you want with a smile on thier face like your some kind of dieity....have at it. Lol They still exist somewhere out there. I recommend shopping in fanatical religions.

Seriously man, you sound like a incel. What's your deal?
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Posted by jeane

Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.


Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.

It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.

would you say the same in the reverse.


I'd say I've been in Depp's situation. And I've often got caught up on trying to set the record straight on semantics.

But it doesn't do much even when you're vindicated on the petty details. You still have the mess of your personal relationships to confront. And nobody saying "yeah man, yeah yeah she was wrong" is going to do it for ya.


You’re right. Once your name gets caught up in that ish, it’s always gonna be there. Lucky for them and you, by proxy, it’s all about the patriarchy and you guys’ll be fine.


Where does the patriarchy come into it? Genuinely asking
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Because whether a man’s guilty or not, more often than not, it’s a slap on the wrist and nothing more. It’s why we get the swim times of the Brock Turners and the Kobe Bryants of the world get to rewrite their stories. Etc...
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Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.
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Respect is earned, not just auto given because you have a penis. Men don't behave like they did back in the day either. There is a problem on both sides.
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Posted by virgoking
Posted by tiziani
Posted by jeane

Recordings where only one person knows they are being recorded always results in them coming off better.


Plus the guy running commentary claims Depp is being rational, but I'd disagree.

It sounds like he's just fixated on proving she lied but it's a minor point to score in the big picture.

would you say the same in the reverse.


I'd say I've been in Depp's situation. And I've often got caught up on trying to set the record straight on semantics.

But it doesn't do much even when you're vindicated on the petty details. You still have the mess of your personal relationships to confront. And nobody saying "yeah man, yeah yeah she was wrong" is going to do it for ya.


You’re right. Once your name gets caught up in that ish, it’s always gonna be there. Lucky for them and you, by proxy, it’s all about the patriarchy and you guys’ll be fine.


Where does the patriarchy come into it? Genuinely asking


Because whether a man’s guilty or not, more often than not, it’s a slap on the wrist and nothing more. It’s why we get the swim times of the Brock Turners and the Kobe Bryants of the world get to rewrite their stories. Etc...
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Yeah that boys will be boys bullshit. But when women get wild, we're no good. Hypocrisy at it's finest. Therefore this thread has no valid points whatsoever.
Posted by alexscaries

Johnny Depp has a history of abusing women it's just coming out now. If he was a has-been it would have come out sooner.
Uranus conjuct Mars and Pluto

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Loose Cannon 😳
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Posted by LittleStar

Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


Respect is earned, not just auto given because you have a penis. Men don't behave like they did back in the day either. There is a problem on both sides.
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Intelligent thinking 👍
An hour long video on this? Who has the time???
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Posted by aquarius09

You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does her.


Victim blaming. Classy.
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I’m pretty sure he didn’t just discover she’s crazy. What is a oh-so-mature man chasing immature bat shit crazy youngin? A lot of times the victim isn’t the victim. They are an enabler and a coddler getting what they deserve for enabling. My theory is where you see bad behaviour, there is always an enabler right around the corner.
His days of being handsome and rich are long over
amber abused her ex-gf and got arrested in the past, she said the police officer was homophobic but the officer is a lesbian soo...
If anyone actually listened to all of this and doesn’t realize what problems this woman has, there might be something off with you as well. I would leave too if I had someone trying to push me into fighting all the time. I don’t want to fight who I love. Fighting is a last recourse for me only when I have to. Drama drama drama. She’s a real piece of work though. Someone whose looks have truly gotten them everywhere in life. He has his own faults attracting such dramatics. Change yourself and you change who you attract. He’s obviously not wanting to be a part of the fighting and I don’t blame him. I leave too when someone’s talking crazy abusive shit—why would someone stay??? But yeah ultimately it’s his fault in continuing it. Leave for good or shut up. We make our own worlds.
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Posted by aquarius09

You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.
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Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.
Posted by FactCheck

He cut off his own finger... and wrote amber heard is a hore on the wall in his own blood. They're both probably ass holes..
I’m conflicted cause she played the battered woman role well. Even donated her entire divorce settlement to charities focused on stopping violence towards women. Also to children hospital as well.

Had me fooled 💯 guess just another example of why we should all reserve judgment until the case is closed and the actual judge rules.

S h i t maybe jussie is actually innocent 😆
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Handing out Xanax like peppermints during an argument— she sounds like a pro.


Oh she is. She knows every trick in the book. I’m not surprised by any of this sadly bc I grew up in the south and heard this kind of shit aaaaaaall the time from privileged little cunts. I just feel bad for nice people.... bc there are equally shitty people out there looking to latch on and siphon whatever they can from you. And yeah Exs were good at this until I got clean. I got used by people who knew my weaknesses and fully exploited them. Strengthen yourself and there’s no room for it. I feel like naivety gets targeted and I was unfortunately so growing up.
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Posted by aquarius09

You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.


Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.


Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.

In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.

Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.
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Here are my couple questions for you:

1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?

2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?

People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?
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Posted by aquarius09

You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.


Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.


Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.

In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.

Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.


Here are my couple questions for you:

1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?

2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?

People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?


I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.

Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.
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Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.
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Posted by aquarius09

You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.


Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.


Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.

In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.

Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.


Here are my couple questions for you:

1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?

2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?

People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?


I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.

Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.


Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.


How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.

My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.

Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.
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I wasn’t referring to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation in my last post. I have seen plenty of abusive relationships lately where people are tolerating abuse from their eyecandies.

P.S your safety is YOUR responsibility and no compassionate argument of yours is going to trump this statement.
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You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.


Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.


Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.

In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.

Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.


Here are my couple questions for you:

1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?

2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?

People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?


I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.

Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.


Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.


How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.

My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.

Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.


I wasn’t referring to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation in my last post. I have seen plenty of abusive relationships lately where people are tolerating abuse from their eyecandies.


Did they specifically say it was because the other person looks good or is their eyecandy so they tolerate it?
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No, they won’t say it but it’s obvious because they have nothing good to say about the abuser and they tell you about the abuse they are putting up with and then you find out that they aren’t even relying on the abuser financially. Rather the abuser is dependent on them financially. So why are you with them? Because of the one thing the abuser has: his gorgeous looks.
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You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.


Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.


Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.

In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.

Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.


Here are my couple questions for you:

1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?

2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?

People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?


I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.

Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.


Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.


How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.

My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.

Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.


Even if she is the abuser, I’d bet the very same embarrassment/shame throws of emotion you describe probably applies to her too.

Another day, another wrong decision.

It’s hard for me to imagine anyone grows up picturing that they’re going to wind up the monster as an adult.


True. No one wakes up one day and decides they wanna be in a bad relationship. Just sometimes, it takes time to see it.
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Most times people don’t want to see it because otherwise they will need to make a decision to walk away and walking away from a toxic person that you are emotionally attached to isn’t easy. People choose to ignore, not necessarily that it takes time. My aunt is in an abusive relationship and she won’t budge or wants to acknowledge the situation because she’s in love with the abuser.
Maybe it’s his karma for leaving his long term partner for her. I think men in general who chase girls that much younger/could be their daughter are creepy.
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Men who call women hoes can't be taken seriously or respected

how many times do we need to say it!!!😠 thank you for point int that out btw.
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You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.


Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.


Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.

In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.

Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.


Here are my couple questions for you:

1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?

2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?

People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?


I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.

Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.


Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.


How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.

My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.

Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.


I wasn’t referring to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation in my last post. I have seen plenty of abusive relationships lately where people are tolerating abuse from their eyecandies.


Did they specifically say it was because the other person looks good or is their eyecandy so they tolerate it?


No, they won’t say it but it’s obvious because they have nothing good to say about the abuser and they tell you about the abuse they are putting up with and then you find out that they aren’t even relying on the abuser financially. Rather the abuser is dependent on them financially. So why are you with them? Because of the one thing the abuser has: his gorgeous looks.


Basically, everything your saying is your judgment not the actual reality. Since they didn't say it, then didn't it cross your mind that you could be wrong?
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No, some things are implicitly evident. No one ever says “he’s too good looking and I know I could never bag a guy like that if I wasn’t tolerating his abuse.” No one talks like that even if they know it deep down.

So the person is dating a dude who abandons her when she is diagnosed with a critical life threatening illness. She is the one buying the dude expensive things, he buys her nothing. He’s always at her place, eating her food and asking her to drive him places in her car. To top it all off, he forces her to have a certain kind of sex that she doesn’t want to do as it’s displeasing and painful for her. What do you gather from all this? Why is she with him? What is it about this great guy? Logical deduction needed now.Source:horses mouth
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You forgot a very important point here: Johnny Depp chose to date this chick. That speaks volumes about him than it does about her.

Also, remember that there are issues with people who are attracted to crazy. “I find crazy hot” said no healthy individual ever! This ties in with your last post and further supports my argument that men love to date crazy and also complain about it. These kind of men are delusional.

Final point, any man that dates/chases a woman far younger than him has major self-esteem and possibly psychological issues. Sane individuals do not discount mental growth/connection that they can have with someone in their age group.


I dunno about this. Even if he chose to date her, it doesn't warrant the abuse. And the age difference, my in laws had an 18 year age gap. My parents had a 15 year age gap. I didn't see them as bad as these two. I didn't see my dad or my father in law having self esteem issues. Nor are they not sane to not be able to connect with their own age group. I wouldn't agree 100% on this.


Your parents and in laws could be an exception but for the most part, men who date women much younger than them are all about dating youthful women (superficiality at its finest) and there’s an issue there.


Well I guess both my in laws and parents are lucky then.

In general, I think it's the compatibility issue. Amber likes to fight. Likes the attention. Likes to be worshipped. Johnny is a classic air sign man. He ignores her. Leaves her be when she's mad. They just don't see eye to eye apart from what goes on in bed. And with this kind of rs, they end up in abuse because there was no other way they can use to express the intense feeling they have of not being able to bridge the gap. Unfortunately, they didn't see it early on and instead of divorcing before it's gotten worse, they ended up abusing each other.

Based on the recording tho, Amber did admit to abusing Johnny by hitting him, prolly to get her point across. Just based on the recording, I wouldn't blame Johnny. It's hard to blame abused men and women by saying it's their choice that led them there. We didn't walk the path they did. We can be logical and say they made bad choices but then who are we to judge? Tolerating any form of abuse is never OK. Whatever the reasons are. No one deserves it.


Here are my couple questions for you:

1. What exactly is Mr. calm collected air sign there attracted to in her? There must be quite a lot of compatibility there with that age and personality difference?

2. What do you have to say about people who tolerate bad behaviour or just enable it?

People stay in lousy relationships for various personal reasons of their own which don’t come to light until either someone is killed or the person finally leaves. I know a chick right now who puts up with a demonic asshole all because he’s a really hot guy and she knows all too well that she would never land a hot guy like this if she wasn’t putting up with his shit. My neighbour is in a similar situation. If women/men put up with abusive partners just to have an eye candy on their hands, who is at fault?


I already mentioned that they are incompatible apart from the sex part which I believe was the motivation why they got together. Not an isolated case though.

Yes, people have their reasons in tolerating bad behavior. But those reasons aren't for us to judge but for us to try and understand. Blaming them for why they are abused just doesn't sit well with me. Some people are damaged due to experiences they had. Doesn't mean they deserve what they get. Doesn't mean they are worth being the punching bag. It's easy for us who aren't currently in an abusive relationship to blame them because we aren't in their shoes. But as humans, we don't always make the most logical decisions. You can't deny that as pretty sure your entire life has not always been about logic either. Although it might not be about abuse or bad relationships but surely, you've made bad decisions yourself. So I think asking those two questions still doesn't justify the abuse.


Abuse of any sort is not justifiable but there isn’t much you can do when one wants to put up with abuse for their own personal reasons. I didn’t make the best of decisions all my life but one thing I don’t do and never have is put up with abuse. Nobody to me is worth my safety and sanity. Also, I’ve never been desperate for love to the extent that I have allowed myself to be secondary to my partner’s needs. I understand that not everyone is like me, but people should priories themselves. Those who don’t prioritize their sanity and safety can blame themselves. I’m sorry but I can’t sympathize with those who put themselves in harms way for silly reasons like having an arm candy/eye candy. I completely understand justifiable reasons like the abuser has something hanging over your head or you’re financially dependent on him.


How sure are you that he just stayed because she's an arm candy? Although my assumption was highly likely because of sex, its not the full story. We don't know that yet. In fact, we are only seeing the surface of their relationship plus recordings of fights they've had. When someone looks attractive, it's very easy to judge: gold digger or arm candy or trophy wife. When old men get younger women it's very easy to say he just has the means to afford a young woman. But knowing how complex humans can be and knowing people who doesn't fit these, I wouldn't be able to judge so easily. I know beautiful women who aren't just there to be trophy wives or rich old men who were genuinely looking for love and just so happened to end up with a young woman. But either way, it doesn't mean a gold digger for example, deserves to be abused. Or an old man with a young woman deserves to abuse or be abused.

My take is that, it's just not easy to judge or blame the abused party. Not until we know their story. I've been in an abusive relationship myself. I blamed myself for it. But the only reason I got out of it was because of people who did not judge me or my decision but rather understood me and gave me strength to walk away. It's so much harder when you get blame from people because you are already blaming yourself enough. You wanna save face. You feel embarrassed about it as well. Another day, another wrong decision. If not for people who understood me and loved me unconditionally, I would not be in a healthy, happy relationship now. Its a lesson I had to learn myself. I wasn't in it because of money or because of having an arm candy. I was in it because I loved the man not knowing that it's not enough to fix things and stop the abuse. Not knowing it's not enough to change him.

Who knows the truth behind Amber and Johnny Depp? I gave my opinion solely based on the recording. If it was Amber who was abused, I'd say the same thing as well. And I wouldn't blame her because she got with an older man who has money. She wouldn't deserve abuse either.


I wasn’t referring to Amber Heard and Johnny Depp situation in my last post. I have seen plenty of abusive relationships lately where people are tolerating abuse from their eyecandies.

P.S your safety is YOUR responsibility and no compassionate argument of yours is going to trump this statement.


Well good on you for insisting on your opinion. But then like I said, very hard to take your closed off opinion seriously because it's all based on what you heard from people around you. You cannot relate because you live in your perfect, logical world and did not experience it first hand nor did the people around you admit why they remain in an abusive relationship. Probably because of the fear of judgment. Again, it's like getting a medical diagnosis from Google vs an Actual doctor.
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You can promote this ostrich behaviour all you want and I frankly don’t care. You and I are two laypersons writing. You ain’t no expert either. Undeniable fact of the matter is that the abused has a key role to play to allow this behaviour, hence coming back to YOUR safety is YOUR responsibility. Ain’t no superman coming to save you. Mind you, superman didn’t come to save you either in your abusive relationship. You saved yourself when you decided to walk away. If you didn’t walk away, you’d still be getting abused.
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@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.
My opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.

And don’t assume that I am perceiving things when I have been told by the abused person all the abuse they are tolerating. I’m not some third party looking in and assuming and passing my judgment. I was told those things by the person in the situation.
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Ps. Just because this is an example of an abusive woman doesn’t mean women have to “behave”. There is a huge range between abuse and being locked in a house making jello food.

My point is back in those days there was a better respect for men stuff like this happens more today. Because disrespect of man hood is seen as the new cool. We're there toxic women in those days yes but it was not tolerated like it is today.


Respect is earned, not just auto given because you have a penis. Men don't behave like they did back in the day either. There is a problem on both sides.


Intelligent thinking 👍
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Quite insightful yourself, sis. Cheers. smile
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Posted by 7thHouse

@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.


My opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.

And don’t assume that I am perceiving things when I have been told by the abused person all the abuse they are tolerating. I’m not some third party looking in and assuming and passing my judgment. I was told those things by the person in the situation.


"Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay." judgy. How do you know this? Did you ask every abused person why they stayed? Again, your opinion vs fact. You also did mention earlier that someone you know was with a guy who abuses her and he let's him because he's good looking even if she did not openly admit to it. But then again, you might be wrong don't you think? I've already challenged your biased opinion. smile also again don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the abused did not contribute. I said I don't agree with the abused getting blamed. There is a difference.
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I hate it when people call others judgy/judgmental. We all judge so stop with your self-righteousness. I’m human and I judge and you gotta recognize that you do too. That’s first step for you. When you say that the abused shouldn’t get blamed, you are essentially absolving them of their part, which they have in their condition/state. In other words, they do contribute. You’re just circumventing that with semantics. Anyways, I don’t agree with you so let’s just agree to disagree as opposed to just keep going in circles.
Posted by 7thHouse
Posted by aquarius09
Posted by 7thHouse
Posted by aquarius09
Posted by 7thHouse

@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.


My opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.

And don’t assume that I am perceiving things when I have been told by the abused person all the abuse they are tolerating. I’m not some third party looking in and assuming and passing my judgment. I was told those things by the person in the situation.


"Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay." judgy. How do you know this? Did you ask every abused person why they stayed? Again, your opinion vs fact. You also did mention earlier that someone you know was with a guy who abuses her and he let's him because he's good looking even if she did not openly admit to it. But then again, you might be wrong don't you think? I've already challenged your biased opinion. smile also again don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the abused did not contribute. I said I don't agree with the abused getting blamed. There is a difference.


I hate it when people call others judgy/judgmental. We all judge so stop with your self-righteousness. I’m human and I judge and you gotta recognize that you do too. That’s first step for you. When you say that the abused shouldn’t get blamed, you are essentially absolving them of their part, which they have in their condition/state. In other words, they do contribute. You’re just circumventing that with semantics. Anyways, I don’t agree with you so let’s just agree to disagree as opposed to just keep going in circles.


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/10/the-psychology-of-victim-blaming/502661/

And for the record, don't tell me what my first step is. You're no boss of mine.
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So then learn to recognize that you judge as well. I get what you’re all about- “blame solely the perpetrator, the victim is a helpless poor sap who needed to be saved by saviour.” You’re barking on the wrong door. You need to seek out Jesus.
Posted by 7thHouse
Posted by aquarius09
Posted by 7thHouse
Posted by aquarius09
Posted by 7thHouse
Posted by aquarius09
Posted by 7thHouse

@aquarius09 but it's also not your potion to judge and tell them what exactly they should do and why they are in that position. Once again, you did not walk their path.


My opinion is mine just like yours is yours. Just because you chose to stay in an abusive relationship doesn’t mean you’re an expert. I could’ve been in the same boat with my ex toxic bf but I CHOSE not to put up with it. I am not trying to come across as know it all. I never said it’s easy to do. I am stating a fact that you are getting upset by which is that the abused person contributes to their condition. That remains unchallenged. I will not walk their path because I don’t want to and I choose to not end up in that situation. It’s your choice and other people’s choice to be abused. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay. Again, not saying it’s easy to walk away but you gotta do what’s best for you.

And don’t assume that I am perceiving things when I have been told by the abused person all the abuse they are tolerating. I’m not some third party looking in and assuming and passing my judgment. I was told those things by the person in the situation.


"Nobody is putting a gun to your head to stay." judgy. How do you know this? Did you ask every abused person why they stayed? Again, your opinion vs fact. You also did mention earlier that someone you know was with a guy who abuses her and he let's him because he's good looking even if she did not openly admit to it. But then again, you might be wrong don't you think? I've already challenged your biased opinion. smile also again don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the abused did not contribute. I said I don't agree with the abused getting blamed. There is a difference.


I hate it when people call others judgy/judgmental. We all judge so stop with your self-righteousness. I’m human and I judge and you gotta recognize that you do too. That’s first step for you. When you say that the abused shouldn’t get blamed, you are essentially absolving them of their part, which they have in their condition/state. In other words, they do contribute. You’re just circumventing that with semantics. Anyways, I don’t agree with you so let’s just agree to disagree as opposed to just keep going in circles.


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/10/the-psychology-of-victim-blaming/502661/

And for the record, don't tell me what my first step is. You're no boss of mine.


So then learn to recognize that you judge as well. I get what you’re all about- “blame solely the perpetrator, the victim is a helpless poor sap who needed to be saved by saviour.” You’re barking on the wrong door. You need to seek out Jesus.


Again, putting words in my mouth. I don't think I said blame the perpetrator solely. Where in this thread did I say that? Lol no point talking to a close minded bitch isn't it? Lol have a good day.
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I would love to easily quote you from your previous post but I don’t care to drag this on. Bye
What was Depp thinking of anyway.....he's old enough to be her dad

His ego took over and it backfired....

People who say that the abused person deserved it because "their safety is their responsibility", have never heard of the Stockholm Syndrome.

ijs.
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He dished it out, she dished it right back. I bet it’s the first time someone dared fought back. He’s well know for his temper.
I see it from another angle. He met his match in the abuse dept. He has a history of violence to others (no record of him being abusive to exes), she has no known history of either. They were both fighting to see who could be more abusive and manipulative, but she won because she's not the one with the history of violence.

As far as I am concerned, they deserve each other.
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