Crazy experience at JFK-I literally felt THE FEAR. And where's ya'll security?!?

This topic was created in the Travel forum by LibraLovesHim on Tuesday, October 24, 2017 and has 18 replies.
So on the way back from upstate NY we had to come through to catch our flight to London from JFK. We had a major delay and they put us on a morning flight. Around midnight we headed to the BA terminal, it was pretty dead as first flight check in opened 4:30.

I hear bawling and shouting, look behind me and this 6ft black guy is swaggering in screaming about Trump, my auto response is to turn around and look-of course he zones in on my bf and I. My bf telling me walk ahead and DO NOT look at him. Meanwhile he's hollering "you think its you white boy that put Trump in presidency, no it was me. You better get your queen and get the F outta here." Queen huh, I could take that?! Or so I thought lol. He gets closer and this guys eye are popping out his damn head and he is foaming at the fucking mouth. Its like the lights were on but nobody was home, literally felt like prey for an animal. Not to mention all this gun violence you can imagine exactly what was going through my mind.

Anyway, everything turned out fine. Nobody got attacked but it could of turned out worse. We later found out he was on crack. But this lead me to thinking, in US and in this day in age WHY WAS THERE NO POLICE OR ARMED GUARDS AT A FCKING AIRPORT?! The security guy was literally an unarmed wee old Jamaican dude on his own, that was no where to be seen at the time this ruckus was going on.

Although I don't like guns as they are not a part of the society I grew up in and were never needed, in UK i'm glad to say at airports we have armed police.

Anyone ever felt the fear? What was happening? Do you ever feel it is brought on by looking the aggressor in the eye? It's not something I do intentionally, but I think it is best to be treating such loonballs like theyre an animal and not make eye contact from now on.
Are there not any crazy crackheads in Europe? Surely that can't be just an American thing.
Foaming at the mouth? That seems overly dramatic.
Posted by LadyNeptune
Foaming at the mouth? That seems overly dramatic.
His mouth was white and he was spitting everywhere from bawling. I have no idea. First time in my life ive seen such a thing.
Posted by LibraLovesHim
Posted by LadyNeptune
Foaming at the mouth? That seems overly dramatic.
His mouth was while and he was spitting everywhere from bawling. I have no idea. First time in my life ive seen such a thing.
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Posted by Andalusia
Are there not any crazy crackheads in Europe? Surely that can't be just an American thing.
I'm sure there is. None that i've ever been exposed to. I'm sure they all hide in crack dens though or some shit and rarely come out and antagonise folk. The functioning ones i've seen outside are mainly zombies and are getting some meds from the chemist to be weaned off drugs.
Huh?!?
Posted by Ixion

Apparently its a man with mental health issues. It happens.

The nation has issues...this isn't a surprise.

The city, in particular, has lapses in its medical care for the most at risk.

The last thing that NYC needs is more armed guards/police/Gendarmerie even with the situation you had. We need services to address the things that caused his situation...not police.
Could be. We only heard from the staff that he was on crack and he had been there the night before also bawling and threatening people. We have armed security at such places because of the mass volume of bodies passing through. I guess it just makes sense to me.
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by LibraLovesHim
Huh?!?

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Sorry I don't understand how this is relevant.
Posted by Distilled
I'm not sure how or why the physical color of the man, who seems to also be a crackhead, is in the post, but jfk seems like a breeze.

Lol at least you are travelling through a place where you and others around you are able to understand each other to a good degree and you are not judged for being the color you are.. There are places that dislike seeing foreigners in their airports to the point of misleading information, unwarranted frisking, to actually fucking up their flights- and these are people who work for the airports.
Lol, the fact I mentioned it was because he was shouting at my bf-due to being white that it was him (black guy) that actually put Trump in his current place. Not meaning to rustle any sensitive feathers around here when it comes to colour. I could care less myself what colour a person which is why I talk about it with ease. Shaming and sensitivity towards open dialogue will never lead to overcoming. It will go on and on. But again, racism isn't something i've grown up with so maybe i'm ignorant towards how such a big problem it is in the world and it should be shied away from.
Posted by Distilled
I'm not sure how or why the physical color of the man, who seems to also be a crackhead, is in the post, but jfk seems like a breeze.

Lol at least you are travelling through a place where you and others around you are able to understand each other to a good degree and you are not judged for being the color you are.. There are places that dislike seeing foreigners in their airports to the point of misleading information, unwarranted frisking, to actually fucking up their flights- and these are people who work for the airports.
The last part of your comment is awful. Where is this happening?
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Posted by LibraLovesHim
Posted by Distilled
I'm not sure how or why the physical color of the man, who seems to also be a crackhead, is in the post, but jfk seems like a breeze.

Lol at least you are travelling through a place where you and others around you are able to understand each other to a good degree and you are not judged for being the color you are.. There are places that dislike seeing foreigners in their airports to the point of misleading information, unwarranted frisking, to actually fucking up their flights- and these are people who work for the airports.
Lol, the fact I mentioned it was because he was shouting at my bf-due to being white that it was him (black guy) that actually put Trump in his current place. Not meaning to rustle any sensitive feathers around here when it comes to colour. I could care less myself what colour a person which is why I talk about it with ease. Shaming it and sensitivity towards it will never lead to overcoming. It will go on and on. But again, racism isn't something i've grown up with so maybe i'm ignorant towards how such a big problem it is in the world.
Drugs seem to be the bigger problem from what I've seen- no singular race or color immune. So a person can very easily become... Just a crackhead.


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True. Ok maybe I am too descriptive. Lets settle for that. I tell it like I seen it. There is no racial malice in my description of the dude I should have inserted. Apologies.
Posted by tiziani
not to minimise your feelings but nothing about this story suggests armed police were needed.

Security was required. There was none. "It then lead me to thinking...." I think I said that cant see right now. Not that my experience required but the situation got me to thinking.

Posted by Cvurko8
Posted by LibraLovesHim
Posted by tiziani
not to minimise your feelings but nothing about this story suggests armed police were needed.

Security was required. There was none. "It then lead me to thinking...." I think I said that cant see right now. Not that my experience required but the situation got me to thinking.

Dont want to sound inconsiderate because i agree that situations like this are unpleasant, but it looks like your thought process and what you imagined as a possibility was what made you feel even worse and more terrified.

To me, it seems you have over-exagerated what happened in reality and that is mostly because we, in our western society, live in some kind of a bubble.

In reality tho some people are crazy, not polite, doing drugs, disrespectful and etc. We live with these people and sometimes we become these people for someone else. Nothing abnormal about it.

And when you compare your situation with the experience of a young british lady in India where she was raped by everyone on the bus she took your reaction seems hilarious. And again, i dont criticize you. Im just changing the perspective trying to blow the bubble.
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No worries. I absolutely get what you are saying. No big deal to most folk. But when a big guy comes at you, clearly on drugs, in comprehensive, shouting, threatening and very angry, in a generally quiet, calm, controlled place such as an airport-yeah I was pretty caught off guard. He was 6ft, on crack, and didn't give a fck where who ot what. I thought my bf was about to get into it with him and sorely lose coz they dont feel shit aswell as their power being amped right up. I had the fight or flight reaction. Sorry to hear of the young British lady. There is no comparison besides that initial fear-something horrendous was carried out towards her. We walked away because god knows what took his eye. I'm not at all trying to downplay any awful situations that others have been through. Just reflecting on my feelings, and the total lack of security.
A black man screams

so he must be a threat.

He must have a weapon.

Fast, call all police on it.

Discriminatory reaction.

Posted by TachibanaSan
A black man screams

so he must be a threat.

He must have a weapon.

Fast, call all police on it.

Discriminatory reaction.

Its tooooo much, jesus christ!!! Can we all just get over that part. My god if i'm talking to a mixed crowd in UK I wouldnt get this reaction. WTF is up with the people. The sensitivity is OVERBOARD. The whole issue with race will never go away when people respond to it like this. I was giving a descriptive picture. Get over it!!!

Posted by LibraLovesHim
Posted by TachibanaSan
A black man screams

so he must be a threat.

He must have a weapon.

Fast, call all police on it.

Discriminatory reaction.

Its tooooo much, jesus christ!!! Can we all just get over that part. My god if i'm talking to a mixed crowd in UK I wouldnt get this reaction. WTF is up with the people. The sensitivity is OVERBOARD. The whole issue with race will never go away when people respond to it like this. I was giving a descriptive picture. Get over it!!!

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Get over your

covert racism.

Yell at me not.

The truth hurts.