Where's the compromise?

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My ideal holiday: Exploring and learning about a city to the max, visiting historic sites, eating all the authentic local food especially the back alley good stuff. Buying unique local souvenirs and trinkets, occasionally clothes or accessories. Speaking with natives and learning about the culture and mannerisms. Good semi luxurious hotel. Taking local transport. Able to keep up with my skincare, hygiene, shower and a good bed to sleep on.

My Scorpio bf's ideal holiday... Guys, it's so extreme, help me, I'm not Saggitarian enough 😂

Going to very unconventional places, backpacking, going to the type of bus and train stops where if you miss it, you have to wait for a week to catch the next one so you have to ask to stay at a "random babushka's house" whilst waiting (his words, not mine 😂), hitchhiking in random people's cars. His diehard dream is to climb Mt Everest alone and meet random people climbing along the way (I worry, but I'm not gonna stop him. I have a health condition so I'm not going). He wants to walk the entire Great Wall of China. And I asked how are we supposed to go to the toilet and shower? And he said "probably just pee/poop right there" and told me about a portable shower you can bring so the shower makes my Virgo ass feel a little better 😂

He says this is his definition of REAL travelling.

I've gone "How would you trust getting into random people's cars? It's harder for a woman to trust that."

He goes: "Well, I'll be there, it won't just be you, I won't let that happen"

And when he said "now I know I can't take you on hardcore travelling"

I did bring up later that I'm willing to give it a go. And he just responded with "okay, but are you willing to climb the Himalayan Mountains with me to find mad honey?"

Maaan 😂 I feel like he should at least give me credit for being willing to go out my comfort zone to at least try it.

We're very similar as people, but the differences we do have are so extreme lol

How would you guys compromise this?
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I wouldn’t lol

Sorry but I go on holiday to relax not to

do extreme stuff

I’d have to decline and send him on his way

How would he feel to have a holiday on your terms?

Maybe be separate trips would be better the you’d both be free to do what you wish…
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I wouldn’t lol
Sorry but I go on holiday to relax not to
do extreme stuff
I’d have to decline and send him on his way
How would he feel to have a holiday on your terms?
Maybe be separate trips would be better the you’d both be free to do what you wish…
Exactly! Like work can get stressful, so holidays are a perfect getaway to relax and just have fun in the most ultimate way possible. You and I should just go travel together instead 😂

I love hiking, so I wouldn't mind climbing a small mountain. But scaling the entirety of Great Wall of China for a month sounds cool, but also sweaty and easy to get stressed. And it's like if an argument happened or we got upset, then we're stuck on the wall which doesn't help give space. Also needing a career that lets us do such a thing for a month.

Well the good thing is that we do have a list of countries that we'd wanna do my kind of travelling in. For example, Japan, South East Asia and Europe. We both definitely want Japan first.

And that's what I have thought about, but I also feel sad about the idea of us travelling separate most of the time. Only thing is climbing Mt Everest for me is a hard no, and it seems like a dream challenge he needs to conquer on his own anyway. But I'm open to climbing Himalayan mountains with him and Nepalese natives to find mad honey.

Do you think it'd be better if most of our travels were my kind of travelling, but I let him do more of his extreme travels alone? I'll do some, but not all. And he can go stay with that babushka 😂
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I wouldn’t lol
Sorry but I go on holiday to relax not to
do extreme stuff
I’d have to decline and send him on his way
How would he feel to have a holiday on your terms?
Maybe be separate trips would be better the you’d both be free to do what you wish…


Exactly! Like work can get stressful, so holidays are a perfect getaway to relax and just have fun in the most ultimate way possible. You and I should just go travel together instead 😂

I love hiking, so I wouldn't mind climbing a small mountain. But scaling the entirety of Great Wall of China for a month sounds cool, but also sweaty and easy to get stressed. And it's like if an argument happened or we got upset, then we're stuck on the wall which doesn't help give space. Also needing a career that lets us do such a thing for a month.

Well the good thing is that we do have a list of countries that we'd wanna do my kind of travelling in. For example, Japan, South East Asia and Europe. We both definitely want Japan first.
And that's what I have thought about, but I also feel sad about the idea of us travelling separate most of the time. Only thing is climbing Mt Everest for me is a hard no, and it seems like a dream challenge he needs to conquer on his own anyway. But I'm open to climbing Himalayan mountains with him and Nepalese natives to find mad honey.

Do you think it'd be better if most of our travels were my kind of travelling, but I let him do more of his extreme travels alone? I'll do some, but not all. And he can go stay with that babushka 😂
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Is this the guy who has kids and you have to do most of the initiating ? If so I wouldn’t be tempted to travel with him tbh…I’m not sure it’s a good idea.
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Honestly, without putting a downer on things, unless you both share the ability to enjoy each other whatever you do and wherever you go then I think you are most likely to come into conflict and frustration

I went on a 2 month Europe trip with a partner and it was awful because although we get on well we like completely different things. I was more like your bf and she was like you. She would drag me to churches and places that I hated. Like we stayed in Assisi (highly religious place in Italy) for 3 days and I was bored out of my mind there.. and she loved it. Then when I wanted to do something exciting like in a city she would not enjoy it at all.
I left her in Belgium lol
We both enjoyed eating out and driving around so there were some good parts but it really showed me we shouldn't be together and we had a ton of arguments which marred the trip bigtime

The very fact that you call it a holiday says a lot.. he doesn't want a "holiday" lol. He wants some endurance test 🤣
I see what you're saying. Was there any time you guys could find a country where you could have a middle ground? Like doing her kind of activities and your kind of activities in the same city?

Yeah literally 😂 I wanna relax and eat my way through a country. He wants an adrenaline junkie filled endurance fitness test travelling adventure 😂 he literally says he loves making everything in life as hard as possible so he can feel amazing overcoming the challenge. Like a trophy. He was a bigger adrenaline junkie as a teen too.

I'm not Aries or Sagittarius-like enough 😂
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What are both your placements @allrounder


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Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I wouldn’t lol
Sorry but I go on holiday to relax not to
do extreme stuff
I’d have to decline and send him on his way
How would he feel to have a holiday on your terms?
Maybe be separate trips would be better the you’d both be free to do what you wish…


Exactly! Like work can get stressful, so holidays are a perfect getaway to relax and just have fun in the most ultimate way possible. You and I should just go travel together instead 😂
I love hiking, so I wouldn't mind climbing a small mountain. But scaling the entirety of Great Wall of China for a month sounds cool, but also sweaty and easy to get stressed. And it's like if an argument happened or we got upset, then we're stuck on the wall which doesn't help give space. Also needing a career that lets us do such a thing for a month.
Well the good thing is that we do have a list of countries that we'd wanna do my kind of travelling in. For example, Japan, South East Asia and Europe. We both definitely want Japan first.
And that's what I have thought about, but I also feel sad about the idea of us travelling separate most of the time. Only thing is climbing Mt Everest for me is a hard no, and it seems like a dream challenge he needs to conquer on his own anyway. But I'm open to climbing Himalayan mountains with him and Nepalese natives to find mad honey.
Do you think it'd be better if most of our travels were my kind of travelling, but I let him do more of his extreme travels alone? I'll do some, but not all. And he can go stay with that babushka 😂
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Is this the guy who has kids and you have to do most of the initiating ? If so I wouldn’t be tempted to travel with him tbh…I’m not sure it’s a good idea.
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No haha that's another user and her issue. We don't have kids at all.

I imagine if we did have kids, my Scorp would allow my kind of travelling when the kids are there more. And he'd go on his types of adventures alone or with friends at that point. And I'd take care of the kids (I'd imagine he'd do this when they're older).
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What are both your placements @allrounder


Like the first main 5?
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Sure
Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.

I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.

He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.

I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂

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This is exactly why I travel alone. I don’t have to call a conference to discuss where to eat breakfast. I don’t have to worry about others travel insecurity.

I can just wake up and do me
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He's not going on a holiday, he's testing your endurance lol and that's not my cup of tea either. I prrefer holidays to be your way lol what he wants is too much imo
I'm surprised a Saggitarian person would say this 😂 maybe I was too one dimensional about you guys cause I thought you'd be more into thrill seeking adventure. Lol you and I should just travel together, eat our way around the country haha
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What are both your placements @allrounder



Like the first main 5?
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Sure
Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.

I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.
He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.

I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂


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His chart 😖…. I think he could be very controlling…and unreasonable too?

As long as the babushka doesn’t look like this 😳😛

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What are both your placements @allrounder



Like the first main 5?
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Sure
Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.
I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.
He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.
I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂

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His chart 😖…. I think he could be very controlling…and unreasonable too?

As long as the babushka doesn’t look like this 😳😛
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Oh the black veil would be very creepy, like the Nuns from that nun horror movie 😰😂 love Kate Bush though, she's fine

It might surprise you then, when he's with me indoors, his vulnerable soft center comes out. And he's mature enough to listen to my perspective and take what I say into consideration. But yes, he's very stubborn in his opinions, but aren't many people? 😂
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What exactly is his travel background/history? He sounds full of shit and like a person who’s never actually traveled before 🧐 Like maybe he’s watched 1 too many bad comedy/disaster films or extreme YouTubers.
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What are both your placements @allrounder



Like the first main 5?
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Sure
Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.
I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.
He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.
I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂

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His chart 😖…. I think he could be very controlling…and unreasonable too?

As long as the babushka doesn’t look like this 😳😛
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Oh the black veil would be very creepy, like the Nuns from that nun horror movie 😰😂 love Kate Bush though, she's fine


It might surprise you then, when he's with me indoors, his vulnerable soft center comes out. And he's mature enough to listen to my perspective and take what I say into consideration. But yes, he's very stubborn in his opinions, but aren't many people? 😂
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She’s the Queen 👸

That’s good he’s considerate with you … Scorpio Sun, Moon and Venus can be very challenging and intense…
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Dude’s gonna need a boatload of cash to climb Everest. Not to mention physical conditioning.

Drop his ass at the edge of the woods with a roll of toilet paper and you go catch an awesome exhibit at the museum. Otherwise you’ll kill each other.
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What exactly is his travel background/history? He sounds full of shit and like a person who’s never actually traveled before 🧐 Like maybe he’s watched 1 too many bad comedy/disaster films or extreme YouTubers.
Lol he does seem to like watching extreme traveller YouTubers. And I don't really remember. I know he's been on a family holiday to Zagreb in Greece and Croatia. And went to many school trips (to France, Wales and Isle of Wight). And around the UK and Scotland. But not much else. I've been on more holidays overseas than he has. I've actually been to Hong Kong, North East Asia and South East Asia so I know how humid it can get in Asia and the mosquito problem. I've informed him of that and admittedly, he didn't know that until I told him lol at least I'll make sure to have him read research and educate himself before going to these places. He knows he has to prepare himself and build up to it first.

He's never been on an extreme travelling trip yet but that's why he wants to as well. I'm aware everyone has to start from somewhere. No one is born experienced. I'm not going to stop him, I'm just questioning where I'd be in these trips and worry about our safety. But he's an adrenaline junkie even though he's mellowed down a bit since teenhood lol
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Honestly, without putting a downer on things, unless you both share the ability to enjoy each other whatever you do and wherever you go then I think you are most likely to come into conflict and frustration
I went on a 2 month Europe trip with a partner and it was awful because although we get on well we like completely different things. I was more like your bf and she was like you. She would drag me to churches and places that I hated. Like we stayed in Assisi (highly religious place in Italy) for 3 days and I was bored out of my mind there.. and she loved it. Then when I wanted to do something exciting like in a city she would not enjoy it at all.
I left her in Belgium lol
We both enjoyed eating out and driving around so there were some good parts but it really showed me we shouldn't be together and we had a ton of arguments which marred the trip bigtime
The very fact that you call it a holiday says a lot.. he doesn't want a "holiday" lol. He wants some endurance test 🤣


I see what you're saying. Was there any time you guys could find a country where you could have a middle ground? Like doing her kind of activities and your kind of activities in the same city?

Yeah literally 😂 I wanna relax and eat my way through a country. He wants an adrenaline junkie filled endurance fitness test travelling adventure 😂 he literally says he loves making everything in life as hard as possible so he can feel amazing overcoming the challenge. Like a trophy. He was a bigger adrenaline junkie as a teen too.

I'm not Aries or Sagittarius-like enough 😂
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One day we took a bus to this famous town in Italy and then we walked for a couple of hours up into the mountains and then went to have a late lunch by the sea and that was pretty harmonious. Or we drove to this valley of the butterflies in Greece and that was cool. For the most part tho it was a disaster 🤣
Maybe you can let him have a week or 2 on his own, getting it out of his system on some dangerous trek, whilst you explore and sightsee and stay in a comfortable hotel? Then you can meet up together for a week in a comfortable beach lodge or something?
Ha the 2 of you are wanting such different things that it seems hard to come up with something you can both be together for the whole time without both of yoou feeling halfhearted about it
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Ooh whereabouts is that butterfly valley in Greece? I wanna go! I think my bf said he went there with his family actually 😂

Well for the compromises you guys did make, they sound really nice! That's exactly the kind of compromise I wanna do.

And that's a really good plan! I only worry he'd stay on his thrill seeking trek for longer than 2 weeks. But I love the idea of spending a week at the end together. It's the perfect opportunity to tell each other stories of our experiences!

Tbh, it's not extremely hard. Like I said, we have many similarities as people, we're soulmates. But the few differences we do have are like this. Extreme 😂 like another difference we have is I like having my chocolate room temp, but he loves his chocolate frozen. I call his, "forbidden chocolate" 🤭

Anyway, I know we both really want to go to Japan first. So I think we can tackle this first. I think we're going to go through Japan in my holiday style .
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Maybe it's not always about feeling fully in love with an experience anyway. Love is also about sacrificing for each other. I think we'll do things for one another even if we're not that into it anyway, just because we love each other that much and love making each other happy ☺️
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What are both your placements @allrounder



Like the first main 5?
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Sure
Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.
I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.
He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.
I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂
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His chart 😖…. I think he could be very controlling…and unreasonable too?
As long as the babushka doesn’t look like this 😳😛
3D% 3D


Oh the black veil would be very creepy, like the Nuns from that nun horror movie 😰😂 love Kate Bush though, she's fine

It might surprise you then, when he's with me indoors, his vulnerable soft center comes out. And he's mature enough to listen to my perspective and take what I say into consideration. But yes, he's very stubborn in his opinions, but aren't many people? 😂
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She’s the Queen 👸

That’s good he’s considerate with you … Scorpio Sun, Moon and Venus can be very challenging and intense…
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It's also wise not to mess with a Virgo 😈

In what ways do you consider those placements challenging? He has told me he struggles to understand himself at times tbh. I don't find him intense though.
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Oh! I like my chocolate frozen too. Side benefit: it keeps everyone else off it. 😝
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Oh! I like my chocolate frozen too. Side benefit: it keeps everyone else off it. 😝
Whaaaat? But whyyy?! Forbidden chocolate eaterrr! 😂 true, you won't get my hands on it, lucky you haha
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Haha!! It’s just sooooo good!!
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What exactly is his travel background/history? He sounds full of shit and like a person who’s never actually traveled before 🧐 Like maybe he’s watched 1 too many bad comedy/disaster films or extreme YouTubers.


Lol he does seem to like watching extreme traveller YouTubers. And I don't really remember. I know he's been on a family holiday to Zagreb in Greece and Croatia. And went to many school trips (to France, Wales and Isle of Wight). And around the UK and Scotland. But not much else. I've been on more holidays overseas than he has. I've actually been to Hong Kong, North East Asia and South East Asia so I know how humid it can get in Asia and the mosquito problem. I've informed him of that and admittedly, he didn't know that until I told him lol at least I'll make sure to have him read research and educate himself before going to these places. He knows he has to prepare himself and build up to it first.

He's never been on an extreme travelling trip yet but that's why he wants to as well. I'm aware everyone has to start from somewhere. No one is born experienced. I'm not going to stop him, I'm just questioning where I'd be in these trips and worry about our safety. But he's an adrenaline junkie even though he's mellowed down a bit since teenhood lol
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If he's never been to an extreme traveling trip yet maybe once the reality kicks in he realizes it's not what he thought it to be. 😂 I would let him go alone and experience it himself first.

Sounds like a torture kind of vacation to me lol. Traveling with someone who wants to do completely different things from you is no fun which is why I sometimes prefer to travel alone.



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What are both your placements @allrounder



Like the first main 5?
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Sure
Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.
I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.
He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.
I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂
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His chart 😖…. I think he could be very controlling…and unreasonable too?
As long as the babushka doesn’t look like this 😳😛
3D% 3D


Oh the black veil would be very creepy, like the Nuns from that nun horror movie 😰😂 love Kate Bush though, she's fine

It might surprise you then, when he's with me indoors, his vulnerable soft center comes out. And he's mature enough to listen to my perspective and take what I say into consideration. But yes, he's very stubborn in his opinions, but aren't many people? 😂
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She’s the Queen 👸

That’s good he’s considerate with you … Scorpio Sun, Moon and Venus can be very challenging and intense…



It's also wise not to mess with a Virgo 😈


In what ways do you consider those placements challenging? He has told me he struggles to understand himself at times tbh. I don't find him intense though.
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I find Virgos to be non confrontational? 😊

Scorpios are complex. Scorpio moon as a stand alone and with other suns can be difficult enough but throw in sun, Venus and other stuff it can create a very emotionally suppressed person. It can be more challenging for a man having feminine placements …. They’re prone to repress how feminine they feel. It helps if they’d a good mother who showed them how to express but I’ve noticed that often men with Scorpio moon have mother issues and not often willing to heal them. I was with three men with that moon….lucky me 😒

Having said that, Virgos often have endless patience..😊
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What exactly is his travel background/history? He sounds full of shit and like a person who’s never actually traveled before 🧐 Like maybe he’s watched 1 too many bad comedy/disaster films or extreme YouTubers.


Lol he does seem to like watching extreme traveller YouTubers. And I don't really remember. I know he's been on a family holiday to Zagreb in Greece and Croatia. And went to many school trips (to France, Wales and Isle of Wight). And around the UK and Scotland. But not much else. I've been on more holidays overseas than he has. I've actually been to Hong Kong, North East Asia and South East Asia so I know how humid it can get in Asia and the mosquito problem. I've informed him of that and admittedly, he didn't know that until I told him lol at least I'll make sure to have him read research and educate himself before going to these places. He knows he has to prepare himself and build up to it first.
He's never been on an extreme travelling trip yet but that's why he wants to as well. I'm aware everyone has to start from somewhere. No one is born experienced. I'm not going to stop him, I'm just questioning where I'd be in these trips and worry about our safety. But he's an adrenaline junkie even though he's mellowed down a bit since teenhood lol
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If he's never been to an extreme traveling trip yet maybe once the reality kicks in he realizes it's not what he thought it to be. 😂 I would let him go alone and experience it himself first.

Sounds like a torture kind of vacation to me lol. Traveling with someone who wants to do completely different things from you is no fun which is why I sometimes prefer to travel alone.




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He's not climbing Everest alone lmao what a tweaker

Boring Tourist trap stuff vs off the beaten track but actually not much to see and pretty boring.

Travelling is boring. The only good thing about traveling is fucking the locals and since you're both in a relationship that rules that out. You could fuck in some risky places though, that might be fun.
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Honestly, without putting a downer on things, unless you both share the ability to enjoy each other whatever you do and wherever you go then I think you are most likely to come into conflict and frustration
I went on a 2 month Europe trip with a partner and it was awful because although we get on well we like completely different things. I was more like your bf and she was like you. She would drag me to churches and places that I hated. Like we stayed in Assisi (highly religious place in Italy) for 3 days and I was bored out of my mind there.. and she loved it. Then when I wanted to do something exciting like in a city she would not enjoy it at all.
I left her in Belgium lol
We both enjoyed eating out and driving around so there were some good parts but it really showed me we shouldn't be together and we had a ton of arguments which marred the trip bigtime
The very fact that you call it a holiday says a lot.. he doesn't want a "holiday" lol. He wants some endurance test 🤣


I see what you're saying. Was there any time you guys could find a country where you could have a middle ground? Like doing her kind of activities and your kind of activities in the same city?
Yeah literally 😂 I wanna relax and eat my way through a country. He wants an adrenaline junkie filled endurance fitness test travelling adventure 😂 he literally says he loves making everything in life as hard as possible so he can feel amazing overcoming the challenge. Like a trophy. He was a bigger adrenaline junkie as a teen too.
I'm not Aries or Sagittarius-like enough 😂
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One day we took a bus to this famous town in Italy and then we walked for a couple of hours up into the mountains and then went to have a late lunch by the sea and that was pretty harmonious. Or we drove to this valley of the butterflies in Greece and that was cool. For the most part tho it was a disaster 🤣
Maybe you can let him have a week or 2 on his own, getting it out of his system on some dangerous trek, whilst you explore and sightsee and stay in a comfortable hotel? Then you can meet up together for a week in a comfortable beach lodge or something?
Ha the 2 of you are wanting such different things that it seems hard to come up with something you can both be together for the whole time without both of yoou feeling halfhearted about it
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Ooh whereabouts is that butterfly valley in Greece? I wanna go! I think my bf said he went there with his family actually 😂
Well for the compromises you guys did make, they sound really nice! That's exactly the kind of compromise I wanna do.

And that's a really good plan! I only worry he'd stay on his thrill seeking trek for longer than 2 weeks. But I love the idea of spending a week at the end together. It's the perfect opportunity to tell each other stories of our experiences!

Tbh, it's not extremely hard. Like I said, we have many similarities as people, we're soulmates. But the few differences we do have are like this. Extreme 😂 like another difference we have is I like having my chocolate room temp, but he loves his chocolate frozen. I call his, "forbidden chocolate" 🤭

Anyway, I know we both really want to go to Japan first. So I think we can tackle this first. I think we're going to go through Japan in my holiday style .
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Okay going to Tokyo and just getting the hang of Japan is an intense adventure. Id be surprised if he can do a week in Tokyo without crashing out. There's heaps of hiking to shrines and shit all over Japan, skiing. Its a good place for both of you.
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I have the same issues with my Scorpio, but he thinks I will stay anywhere and he actually is the one who prefers luxury. I can do both.

He knows now that if he starts saying we are gonna go on a trip, I will start planning it, so he's choosing his words carefully.

He has big ideas of what he wants to do, but reality is way different.

Sometimes I think all that talking is a way to avoid going. It's so out there that you can't plan it because it goes against how a regular person travels.

I've just started ignoring what he says and letting him know what the budget is and what is within reason.

That's what we compromise on.

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I have the same issues with my Scorpio, but he thinks I will stay anywhere and he actually is the one who prefers luxury. I can do both.

He knows now that if he starts saying we are gonna go on a trip, I will start planning it, so he's choosing his words carefully.

He has big ideas of what he wants to do, but reality is way different.

Sometimes I think all that talking is a way to avoid going. It's so out there that you can't plan it because it goes against how a regular person travels.

I've just started ignoring what he says and letting him know what the budget is and what is within reason.

That's what we compromise on.

Mutuable and Fixed energy is so different!

You’re a very patient Sag! 😃
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I have the same issues with my Scorpio, but he thinks I will stay anywhere and he actually is the one who prefers luxury. I can do both.
He knows now that if he starts saying we are gonna go on a trip, I will start planning it, so he's choosing his words carefully.
He has big ideas of what he wants to do, but reality is way different.
Sometimes I think all that talking is a way to avoid going. It's so out there that you can't plan it because it goes against how a regular person travels.
I've just started ignoring what he says and letting him know what the budget is and what is within reason.
That's what we compromise on.


Mutuable and Fixed energy is so different!
You’re a very patient Sag! 😃
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Half the time, I could care less about how difficult he is trying to make things.

As long as he's on board when it's go time.

The struggle to get there is a lot though, I wish he wasn't so stubborn about his ideas of things he doesn't even know about.

He thinks one way and then needs time to adjust his original thinking, where mutables adapt fast, we don't need days.

His need to be the one in control is fine when I'm in his presence, I can go with the flow.

He's starting to notice that I will do things on my own, without him, when he doesn't want to do some of the things I like doing.

We like different hobbies, and so I fit in what I want to do on my own time.

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I have the same issues with my Scorpio, but he thinks I will stay anywhere and he actually is the one who prefers luxury. I can do both.
He knows now that if he starts saying we are gonna go on a trip, I will start planning it, so he's choosing his words carefully.
He has big ideas of what he wants to do, but reality is way different.
Sometimes I think all that talking is a way to avoid going. It's so out there that you can't plan it because it goes against how a regular person travels.
I've just started ignoring what he says and letting him know what the budget is and what is within reason.
That's what we compromise on.


Mutuable and Fixed energy is so different!
You’re a very patient Sag! 😃



Half the time, I could care less about how difficult he is trying to make things.

As long as he's on board when it's go time.

The struggle to get there is a lot though, I wish he wasn't so stubborn about his ideas of things he doesn't even know about.

He thinks one way and then needs time to adjust his original thinking, where mutables adapt fast, we don't need days.


His need to be the one in control is fine when I'm in his presence, I can go with the flow.

He's starting to notice that I will do things on my own, without him, when he doesn't want to do some of the things I like doing.


We like different hobbies, and so I fit in what I want to do on my own time.

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Don’t live with him ffs

Living with Scorpios 🥴😑😂
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I have the same issues with my Scorpio, but he thinks I will stay anywhere and he actually is the one who prefers luxury. I can do both.
He knows now that if he starts saying we are gonna go on a trip, I will start planning it, so he's choosing his words carefully.
He has big ideas of what he wants to do, but reality is way different.
Sometimes I think all that talking is a way to avoid going. It's so out there that you can't plan it because it goes against how a regular person travels.
I've just started ignoring what he says and letting him know what the budget is and what is within reason.
That's what we compromise on.


Mutuable and Fixed energy is so different!
You’re a very patient Sag! 😃




Half the time, I could care less about how difficult he is trying to make things.


As long as he's on board when it's go time.


The struggle to get there is a lot though, I wish he wasn't so stubborn about his ideas of things he doesn't even know about.


He thinks one way and then needs time to adjust his original thinking, where mutables adapt fast, we don't need days.


His need to be the one in control is fine when I'm in his presence, I can go with the flow.


He's starting to notice that I will do things on my own, without him, when he doesn't want to do some of the things I like doing.


We like different hobbies, and so I fit in what I want to do on my own time.




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Don’t live with him ffs

Living with Scorpios 🥴😑😂
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I practically do already lol

There can only be so much I can agree to, and I've told him this.

The rest he needs to find a way to cope and deal Big Grin
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He will be dying hard if he tries to do Everest alone 🤣

I like your style much better OP.
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I have the same issues with my Scorpio, but he thinks I will stay anywhere and he actually is the one who prefers luxury. I can do both.
He knows now that if he starts saying we are gonna go on a trip, I will start planning it, so he's choosing his words carefully.
He has big ideas of what he wants to do, but reality is way different.
Sometimes I think all that talking is a way to avoid going. It's so out there that you can't plan it because it goes against how a regular person travels.
I've just started ignoring what he says and letting him know what the budget is and what is within reason.
That's what we compromise on.


Mutuable and Fixed energy is so different!
You’re a very patient Sag! 😃


Half the time, I could care less about how difficult he is trying to make things.

As long as he's on board when it's go time.

The struggle to get there is a lot though, I wish he wasn't so stubborn about his ideas of things he doesn't even know about.

He thinks one way and then needs time to adjust his original thinking, where mutables adapt fast, we don't need days.

His need to be the one in control is fine when I'm in his presence, I can go with the flow.

He's starting to notice that I will do things on my own, without him, when he doesn't want to do some of the things I like doing.

We like different hobbies, and so I fit in what I want to do on my own time.


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Don’t live with him ffs
Living with Scorpios 🥴😑😂
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I practically do already lol
There can only be so much I can agree to, and I've told him this.
The rest he needs to find a way to cope and deal
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Good for you ~ you tell him girl 👍
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He will be dying hard if he tries to do Everest alone 🤣

I like your style much better OP.
I mean there are historically people who have succeeded in climbing Everest alone, but it obviously takes a lot of deep research, preparation and practice.

Thank you, seems like I need to go on holiday with everybody here on my thread 😂 cause my Scorpio is quite the adrenaline rush nutter 😂 he literally told me he would like to die in a car crash going full speed, in his dream car and after a nice day. Because he doesn't want anyone else to have his dream car.

I, on the other hand, told him my dream is to pass away peacefully in my sleep after fulfilling my purpose and living as healthily of a life as I could.
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What exactly is his travel background/history? He sounds full of shit and like a person who’s never actually traveled before 🧐 Like maybe he’s watched 1 too many bad comedy/disaster films or extreme YouTubers.


Lol he does seem to like watching extreme traveller YouTubers. And I don't really remember. I know he's been on a family holiday to Zagreb in Greece and Croatia. And went to many school trips (to France, Wales and Isle of Wight). And around the UK and Scotland. But not much else. I've been on more holidays overseas than he has. I've actually been to Hong Kong, North East Asia and South East Asia so I know how humid it can get in Asia and the mosquito problem. I've informed him of that and admittedly, he didn't know that until I told him lol at least I'll make sure to have him read research and educate himself before going to these places. He knows he has to prepare himself and build up to it first.
He's never been on an extreme travelling trip yet but that's why he wants to as well. I'm aware everyone has to start from somewhere. No one is born experienced. I'm not going to stop him, I'm just questioning where I'd be in these trips and worry about our safety. But he's an adrenaline junkie even though he's mellowed down a bit since teenhood lol
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If he's never been to an extreme traveling trip yet maybe once the reality kicks in he realizes it's not what he thought it to be. 😂 I would let him go alone and experience it himself first.

Sounds like a torture kind of vacation to me lol. Traveling with someone who wants to do completely different things from you is no fun which is why I sometimes prefer to travel alone.




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For sure. I think all those YouTube videos of extreme travellers has given him this daydream world of what he could do 😂 I don't like discouraging people from their dreams though so I don't want to stop him, but I just want him to be informed, responsible enough and safe too.

Yeah, that's a really good idea actually. I'll let him go alone and experience his own reality for himself. And I'll be here, on vacation, sipping a mocktail and waiting to hear about his adventurous tales 😂

It's just that I already envision my Virgo self crying badly at some point if I joined walking the entirety of the Great Wall of China, for example. Simultaneously, I think the compromise can be we find countries to go to where we can both do things alone and together 🤗
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What are both your placements @allrounder



Like the first main 5?
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Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.
I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.
He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.
I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂
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His chart 😖…. I think he could be very controlling…and unreasonable too?
As long as the babushka doesn’t look like this 😳😛
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Oh the black veil would be very creepy, like the Nuns from that nun horror movie 😰😂 love Kate Bush though, she's fine
It might surprise you then, when he's with me indoors, his vulnerable soft center comes out. And he's mature enough to listen to my perspective and take what I say into consideration. But yes, he's very stubborn in his opinions, but aren't many people? 😂
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She’s the Queen 👸
That’s good he’s considerate with you … Scorpio Sun, Moon and Venus can be very challenging and intense…


It's also wise not to mess with a Virgo 😈

In what ways do you consider those placements challenging? He has told me he struggles to understand himself at times tbh. I don't find him intense though.
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I find Virgos to be non confrontational? 😊

Scorpios are complex. Scorpio moon as a stand alone and with other suns can be difficult enough but throw in sun, Venus and other stuff it can create a very emotionally suppressed person. It can be more challenging for a man having feminine placements …. They’re prone to repress how feminine they feel. It helps if they’d a good mother who showed them how to express but I’ve noticed that often men with Scorpio moon have mother issues and not often willing to heal them. I was with three men with that moon….lucky me 😒

Having said that, Virgos often have endless patience..😊
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I'm sorry you were with men who didn't have the emotional maturity and wellness you deserved ❤️

But yeah, I see what you mean! I have noticed that in my Scorpio man actually. He doesn't really like makeup on his face, but he was open to me drawing an electric bolt on his face for Halloween, without the glitter though 😂

He's not entirely rejecting his feminine side, he accepts he has both energies. And we've now come to the point where he feels safe to let me know when he's crying. His mother isn't abusive, but she didn't exactly show a great example on how to regulate one's emotions since she doesn't know how to properly do that herself.

I think she let him express all of his emotions, but without helping him understand them and why he feels a certain way or how to process them in a present and healthy way, I think. Like she was emotionally not present/emotionally neglectful though physically present.

But anyway, I do my best to be patient and gently help him through his emotions when the waves come through and be understanding ❤️ he appreciates how understanding I am.
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What are both your placements @allrounder



Like the first main 5?
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Sure
Who’s “that Babushka”? 😃
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I don't know. The babushka is the random grandma he'd go stay with to wait for the bus that comes once every week 😂😭 this is his kind of travelling. He seems to be inspired by other men who are doing this on YouTube. Because he's given me a YouTuber example for each one.
I'm Virgo Sun, Gemini Rising, Pisces Moon, Libra Venus and Leo Mars.
He's Scorpio Sun, Scorpio Moon, Capricorn Rising, Scorpio Venus and Libra Mars.
I feel like his Capricorn Rising and Scorp placements are what make him love making everything as hard as possible to overcome it 😂
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His chart 😖…. I think he could be very controlling…and unreasonable too?
As long as the babushka doesn’t look like this 😳😛
3D% 3D


Oh the black veil would be very creepy, like the Nuns from that nun horror movie 😰😂 love Kate Bush though, she's fine
It might surprise you then, when he's with me indoors, his vulnerable soft center comes out. And he's mature enough to listen to my perspective and take what I say into consideration. But yes, he's very stubborn in his opinions, but aren't many people? 😂
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She’s the Queen 👸
That’s good he’s considerate with you … Scorpio Sun, Moon and Venus can be very challenging and intense…


It's also wise not to mess with a Virgo 😈

In what ways do you consider those placements challenging? He has told me he struggles to understand himself at times tbh. I don't find him intense though.
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I find Virgos to be non confrontational? 😊

Scorpios are complex. Scorpio moon as a stand alone and with other suns can be difficult enough but throw in sun, Venus and other stuff it can create a very emotionally suppressed person. It can be more challenging for a man having feminine placements …. They’re prone to repress how feminine they feel. It helps if they’d a good mother who showed them how to express but I’ve noticed that often men with Scorpio moon have mother issues and not often willing to heal them. I was with three men with that moon….lucky me 😒

Having said that, Virgos often have endless patience..😊



I'm sorry you were with men who didn't have the emotional maturity and wellness you deserved ❤️

But yeah, I see what you mean! I have noticed that in my Scorpio man actually. He doesn't really like makeup on his face, but he was open to me drawing an electric bolt on his face for Halloween, without the glitter though 😂


He's not entirely rejecting his feminine side, he accepts he has both energies. And we've now come to the point where he feels safe to let me know when he's crying. His mother isn't abusive, but she didn't exactly show a great example on how to regulate one's emotions since she doesn't know how to properly do that herself.


I think she let him express all of his emotions, but without helping him understand them and why he feels a certain way or how to process them in a present and healthy way, I think. Like she was emotionally not present/emotionally neglectful though physically present.


But anyway, I do my best to be patient and gently help him through his emotions when the waves come through and be understanding ❤️ he appreciates how understanding I am.
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“Without the glitter” ~ spoil sport 🥳🥲

Yes I’ve know many Scorpio moons whose mothers weren’t there for them emotionally …it can be very detrimental especially to men…

….and tell him from me, he’s very blessed to have you ♥️😊
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I think you should support this man in his ambitious insanity, there isn't enough men like this any more and they're what make the world interesting.
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If he wants to do all that stuff then its not about having a holiday. It's a personal challenge. If he's a Scorpio then personal development is very important to them. Maybe he feels he needs to prove something, even if only to himself. So if you see yourselves as being together long-term then you should probably let him do that because once he has done a hard trek or whatever he chooses he may well learn that its not what he really wants but at least he will have that sense of achievement which will put his mind at rest. We learn by trying things
If you have no desire to do those things and don't feel the need to test yourself in that way (perfectly understandable) then you can just let him go through it himself and support him. I know you want a nice vacation together and you can still have that but maybe put it on hold until he has done his challenge. Because after that he may be more inclined towards having a good time rather than a testing time..
I think there is a compromise but maybe you have to let him not compromise first, if that makes sense

I thought I was like that.. I did a month long trek and I met crazy people.. one guy had walked the whole way across Australia. But when I really thought about it, I decided that it all seemed a bit pointless. Day after day trudging through the Australian bush. Once I met guys who were that extreme I realised that wasn't me and I felt more at ease with myself. There's all sorts of ways to have an adventure, it doesn't have to be extreme and arduous but perhaps he needs to go through that first before he can relax and have an enjoyable holiday
Your comment is just the perfect answer. Thank you. I think we're gonna go on a holiday together, my style , first (most likely Europe or Japan) since that's more doable than his personal expeditions.

I just always see Scorpios as wanting to do everything to the extreme or nothing all the time. To test their limits. Which I watch in amazement honestly. They're very all or nothing people 😂

Hopefully just going on one of these difficult treks will give him that sense of achievement and leave him satisfied. The only one I could see myself doing with him is climbing up the Himalayan mountains with Nepalese locals to find mad honey.

Where were you going on your month long trek? What were you trying to achieve or learn about yourself?
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I think you should support this man in his ambitious insanity, there isn't enough men like this any more and they're what make the world interesting.
You're certainly right. It's like supporting my own Albert Einstein.

These extreme treks are one thing, but he also wants to own a garage where he can place his 12 classic dream cars in. Like his own personal car show.

And one dream I really like the sound of is him wanting to have a Japanese style conservatory room (which I called the Zen room) where the floor is filled with water, there's wooden paths near the edge of the room, then there's a giant tree, or a few bonsai trees in the middle of the room. And placed around the room are different exotic plants or Japanese plants like the Japanese Acer plant (I brought up wanting the Acer plant 😂). Might have koi fish swimming in the water too.

And we both individually want a lot of pets, so we essentially realised we're gonna have a farm in our dream home 😂 axolotls are cute, ok.
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Compromise: going up to my Fuji

There is a trail

Fairly regular people can do it

He can wear hiking gear

You’re not far away from the city
Ooh! Thank you, that's a smart compromise. Considering we both want to go to Japan anyway Big Grin
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Honestly, without putting a downer on things, unless you both share the ability to enjoy each other whatever you do and wherever you go then I think you are most likely to come into conflict and frustration
I went on a 2 month Europe trip with a partner and it was awful because although we get on well we like completely different things. I was more like your bf and she was like you. She would drag me to churches and places that I hated. Like we stayed in Assisi (highly religious place in Italy) for 3 days and I was bored out of my mind there.. and she loved it. Then when I wanted to do something exciting like in a city she would not enjoy it at all.
I left her in Belgium lol
We both enjoyed eating out and driving around so there were some good parts but it really showed me we shouldn't be together and we had a ton of arguments which marred the trip bigtime
The very fact that you call it a holiday says a lot.. he doesn't want a "holiday" lol. He wants some endurance test 🤣



I see what you're saying. Was there any time you guys could find a country where you could have a middle ground? Like doing her kind of activities and your kind of activities in the same city?
Yeah literally 😂 I wanna relax and eat my way through a country. He wants an adrenaline junkie filled endurance fitness test travelling adventure 😂 he literally says he loves making everything in life as hard as possible so he can feel amazing overcoming the challenge. Like a trophy. He was a bigger adrenaline junkie as a teen too.
I'm not Aries or Sagittarius-like enough 😂
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One day we took a bus to this famous town in Italy and then we walked for a couple of hours up into the mountains and then went to have a late lunch by the sea and that was pretty harmonious. Or we drove to this valley of the butterflies in Greece and that was cool. For the most part tho it was a disaster 🤣
Maybe you can let him have a week or 2 on his own, getting it out of his system on some dangerous trek, whilst you explore and sightsee and stay in a comfortable hotel? Then you can meet up together for a week in a comfortable beach lodge or something?
Ha the 2 of you are wanting such different things that it seems hard to come up with something you can both be together for the whole time without both of yoou feeling halfhearted about it
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Ooh whereabouts is that butterfly valley in Greece? I wanna go! I think my bf said he went there with his family actually 😂
Well for the compromises you guys did make, they sound really nice! That's exactly the kind of compromise I wanna do.
And that's a really good plan! I only worry he'd stay on his thrill seeking trek for longer than 2 weeks. But I love the idea of spending a week at the end together. It's the perfect opportunity to tell each other stories of our experiences!
Tbh, it's not extremely hard. Like I said, we have many similarities as people, we're soulmates. But the few differences we do have are like this. Extreme 😂 like another difference we have is I like having my chocolate room temp, but he loves his chocolate frozen. I call his, "forbidden chocolate" 🤭
Anyway, I know we both really want to go to Japan first. So I think we can tackle this first. I think we're going to go through Japan in my holiday style .
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Okay going to Tokyo and just getting the hang of Japan is an intense adventure. Id be surprised if he can do a week in Tokyo without crashing out. There's heaps of hiking to shrines and shit all over Japan, skiing. Its a good place for both of you.
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I know Tokyo is incredibly crowded, what else? Interesting, I thought shrines are just in flat grounded countrysides but that's good to know ☺️
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I have the same issues with my Scorpio, but he thinks I will stay anywhere and he actually is the one who prefers luxury. I can do both.
He knows now that if he starts saying we are gonna go on a trip, I will start planning it, so he's choosing his words carefully.
He has big ideas of what he wants to do, but reality is way different.
Sometimes I think all that talking is a way to avoid going. It's so out there that you can't plan it because it goes against how a regular person travels.
I've just started ignoring what he says and letting him know what the budget is and what is within reason.
That's what we compromise on.


Mutuable and Fixed energy is so different!
You’re a very patient Sag! 😃
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Half the time, I could care less about how difficult he is trying to make things.
As long as he's on board when it's go time.
The struggle to get there is a lot though, I wish he wasn't so stubborn about his ideas of things he doesn't even know about.
He thinks one way and then needs time to adjust his original thinking, where mutables adapt fast, we don't need days.

His need to be the one in control is fine when I'm in his presence, I can go with the flow.
He's starting to notice that I will do things on my own, without him, when he doesn't want to do some of the things I like doing.

We like different hobbies, and so I fit in what I want to do on my own time.

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So it is universal then. All Scorpios love making everything as difficult and extreme as possible as a personal challenge to their limits 😂 the problem is them believing everyone will follow what they want as it is.

Yeah, that's actually one of the things I don't like about Scorpio people. Is they have these stubborn tight opinions of things that they've never been to or experienced yet. Or simply because they read a few articles lol but they forget first hand experiences will always be so different for each person.

Hahaha same! The ideal is doing it together, but I'm as easy to let it go and just go do it on my own 😂
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If he wants to do all that stuff then its not about having a holiday. It's a personal challenge. If he's a Scorpio then personal development is very important to them. Maybe he feels he needs to prove something, even if only to himself. So if you see yourselves as being together long-term then you should probably let him do that because once he has done a hard trek or whatever he chooses he may well learn that its not what he really wants but at least he will have that sense of achievement which will put his mind at rest. We learn by trying things
If you have no desire to do those things and don't feel the need to test yourself in that way (perfectly understandable) then you can just let him go through it himself and support him. I know you want a nice vacation together and you can still have that but maybe put it on hold until he has done his challenge. Because after that he may be more inclined towards having a good time rather than a testing time..
I think there is a compromise but maybe you have to let him not compromise first, if that makes sense
I thought I was like that.. I did a month long trek and I met crazy people.. one guy had walked the whole way across Australia. But when I really thought about it, I decided that it all seemed a bit pointless. Day after day trudging through the Australian bush. Once I met guys who were that extreme I realised that wasn't me and I felt more at ease with myself. There's all sorts of ways to have an adventure, it doesn't have to be extreme and arduous but perhaps he needs to go through that first before he can relax and have an enjoyable holiday


Your comment is just the perfect answer. Thank you. I think we're gonna go on a holiday together, my style , first (most likely Europe or Japan) since that's more doable than his personal expeditions.
I just always see Scorpios as wanting to do everything to the extreme or nothing all the time. To test their limits. Which I watch in amazement honestly. They're very all or nothing people 😂
Hopefully just going on one of these difficult treks will give him that sense of achievement and leave him satisfied. The only one I could see myself doing with him is climbing up the Himalayan mountains with Nepalese locals to find mad honey.
Where were you going on your month long trek? What were you trying to achieve or learn about yourself?
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If you really think that will satisfy him and he will no longer want to continue that - let me just tell you it's as far as it can be from the truth. Gemini above is right, but they are very different from Scorpios. I know a few and all are like your guy. They just never stop with that. Also climbing difficult treks means nothing for adrenaline junkies. I also know a Taurus (old man) who spent his all life trekking. Those who enjoy it will simply never stop. Geminis lose interest in everything over time and have the need to change and are also a lot more logical. Scorpio is a fixed sign, like their opposite Taurus and what they set their mind on, they will keep going. You can simply accept it if it's fine with you, but don't ever hope he will stop at that. One of them that I know is a cancer survivor and he's still an adrenaline junkie, even after cancer battle, nothing changed. Or maybe he even became more adrenaline addicted. He's a family man but he rumbles around in such adventures with other friends, not his family ofc. Compromise is to let him do his thing on your own and you do yours on your own or you join each other when you feel like it
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I definitely don't want to stop him. It's a 50/50 chance on how he feels about extreme travels as he's not tried it yet. I say 50/50 cause he's more responsible/calmer now than his teenage years.

Like one time he literally climbed onto an umoving train and walked across it with his friends. And he's broken into a bunch of abandoned buildings with his friends and alone. Ran from police during one time they were seen (they didn't get caught). I love abandoned buildings so we've been to a few now. But since he's visited a lot of them now, he's not as reckless and risk crazed about going to highly guarded abandoned places anymore. As he's told me before "I'm risky but I'm not stupid".

He used to skateboard and ride his scooter (not the motorbike type) a lot in skate parks and had a lot of broken bones from those times. Now he doesn't like doing it anymore.

It's the classic obsession phases of a Scorpio.

He definitely has a peak threshold he can stop at. If he does end up liking these extreme expeditions, I can see him doing it a few times and then retiring from it once he's satisfied or I ended up pregnant or something. I wouldn't hold a pregnancy over him, but he deeply cares about certain people.

Like he loved and was amazing at playing guitar, but once his guitar teacher passed away, he lost all passion for it out of respect for her. Or when he told me he'd go really fast on a Harley Davidson motorbike by himself, but with both of us on it, he'd drive more safely.
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Also, what counts as satisfying for adrenaline junkies then? If not an extreme trek.
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