A Sense of Belonging

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by Cajunspirit on Friday, October 9, 2009 and has 26 replies.
"Bachelor's of the Zodiac"
So they say... and honestly, I can't help but find I fall into this description myself.
I hate crowds and current trends. I don't like groups and prefer person to person communication.
The world view these days pushes for self sufficiency and this is very strongly engraved in me.
I never have a real sense of belonging. Any time I feel like I fit in, it just seems so superficial to me.
Parties and nightclubs are not things I enjoy. Dinners and small get together[s] are much better, for me.
I don't feel like I belong anywhere, not even in my own family.
I feel like an external factor that is separated from the bubble everyone congregates in.
The Bible taught me, "Put not your faith in man, but in God and God alone".
This is so true for me... people always fail me.
I am curious to find out which Virgos do feel " A Sense of Belonging ", what they feel it to and why.
Posted by Cajunspirit
"Bachelor's of the Zodiac"
So they say... and honestly, I can't help but find I fall into this description myself.
I hate crowds and current trends. I don't like groups and prefer person to person communication.
The world view these days pushes for self sufficiency and this is very strongly engraved in me.
I never have a real sense of belonging. Any time I feel like I fit in, it just seems so superficial to me.
Parties and nightclubs are not things I enjoy. Dinners and small get together[s] are much better, for me.
I don't feel like I belong anywhere, not even in my own family.
I feel like an external factor that is separated from the bubble everyone congregates in.
The Bible taught me, "Put not your faith in man, but in God and God alone".
This is so true for me... people always fail me.
I am curious to find out which Virgos do feel " A Sense of Belonging ", what they feel it to and why.


i feel u tho cajun i love being around small group people going out to eat i neva liked parties or clubs cuz i hate alot people under me sometimes i dont fit into my family cuz everybody love to be in drama and i like ma peace i guess virgos are one of those signs dat understand their own. i detest fake people and gossips people like dat are just low to me virgos often put people in brackets to how they fit in their life well i know i do lol Virgos get better with age dats wat a senior virgo told me lol things well get better all we ask of our self is do tha best u can and live.
Welcome to the club. Big Grin

I feel the same way when i was your age. As i got older, i started to loosen up a little bit and become more sociable and enjoying life little more than i did before. Breaking a little bit of routine every now and then gives me more freedom and enjoyment in life.
well...coming from an Aqua..u virgos neva liked me for sum reason...random i kno..bhut u guyz need 2 juss cheer dha fukk up nd live your life..stop thinkin that people gossipin bout u kuzz no one cares..lo siento
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my bhadd..u look like u wanna kill urself..lookin like the arab version of raiden the thunder godd...
Posted by AybLynk

owwww....i digg dha humor...i def. do excel in group settings THE MOST...but truss me papi..i come to mek trouble..datt's mainly why virgos dnt fuxx witt me anyway..oh well...bhut really, yah always look at the bad side of life all the time...u sound like u wanna kill urself..lo siento


Appreciate your concern, but I am fine. I am just interested in learning from my Virgo brothers through describing my feelings in detail. I am just going through a strong feeling of loneliness these days.
tuscan_sun, I encourage and welcome all to share their thoughts and feelings.
Posted by tuscan_sun

The Virgo I know is going through the phase of what you described, although he is a bit of a hypocrite. He says he dislikes partying yet he goes out with his friends almost every week. He loves casinos. He likes his alone time, but who doesn't. He believes in a god and even preaches about the right path, but one can only follow one who walks the path.


Just because he does it, doesn't mean he likes it.
Knowing the path and walking it may be different. However, it is still better to at least have some foundation.
I don't disagree with you, I just think you are being "Virgo harsh" on your Virgo Tongue

He knows the wrongs and I feel sometimes that it is difficult to execute the change that he wants in his life, because of the possibility that he may have to let go of some people that he surrounds himself with.


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Common dilemma for most people.
an_sun, haha, well you sure got yourself some healthy patience. What is your sign, may I inquire?
Posted by BelleTheScorpio
He's mentioned many times that I'm the only that sees the real him, that I'm the only he would show his real self to. He says when he's with me, that he doesn't feel lonely and he feels as though he belongs.


Oh boy, sounds like he is really into you smile

He is also very spiritual and he puts all of his faith in God, but he is able to see God in everything/everyone. It amazes me to watch him.
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Fantastic! Not enough Virgos have spiritual conviction I find.

cajun, i can offer you the other side of the coin. unlike most virgos, i fair better in groups and enjoy partying. i hate being alone tho i feel that even in a group i do not really belong to most of them. Or more that i simply want to march to my own beat and not follow other's ideals
Lets just say virgos do carry their discriminations in various ways and from the way you put it, you practice it socially.
and no offence to the aqua: you can be you and don't give a shyat about it, but speaking from experience, you aquas only know the surface of us virgos and have no idea what goes on inside, since we do not really talk about it unless we are ready. Most of my friends are aquas who yet seems to know us but do not really express wanting to understand us at a really deep level. Sure, you can talk to us on a superficial basis, but when it comes down to dark and dirty, you all just clam up and walk away. We merely have different ways of living life and expressing it. no doubt, you all can be yourselves anywhere anytime, and i do enjoy such a person as it shakes me away from the typical virgo routine. Believe me, i disdain my virgo-ness as well and enjoy you aquas.


Ditto, and my dad is exactly like this he just clams up and he's an aqua.
I appreciate the sharings of both you virg-goki and VirLeogurl09. However, I still have not received an answer to the main question.
What group do you feel you belong to and why do you feel as though you belong to it?
Layna, I fully understand and appreciate your contribution. I would say I fall along the same lines.
I just can not help but find it fascinating observing other folks in a group setting.
Cancers, Libras, Scorpios, Taurians, Aries and Sagittarians all seem so comfortable in groups. You can see they are not thinking or overanlaysing like we do.
I think it is just Virgo nature to feel lonely and want self sufficiency. This is what I want debated here.
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I don't tell anyone my sign Winking


Posted by Shaks

ho ho ho, youre not intelligent enough to realize saying that makes you automatically a Pisces smile


Sounds like the case to me too. Though her posting record indicates Scorpio.
Posted by sortilege85
Cajun, when i was younger, most groups that i associated with was pretty much for my own learning experience of how people react amongst each other. Right now, your questioning your sense of belonging.
Pretty much the second semester was the start of a road were I began to observe and understand how everyone and everything works whether if it was harsh or not.
It was a good learning experience but i stopped before i would have ended up like them. Now, i enjoy hanging out with small groups and travelling.
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Yup... sounds like I'm going through these same experiences you did albeit in a different setting and culture.
Posted by Learus
Cajun, I really like you Virgos, but can't understand why you feel you don't fit in anywhere?


I really am incredibly different from anyone in my generation. So it's not as hard as you think.


It's amazing to me to see someone so smart, so grounded, so intuned, so caring, etc. etc. and still not believe they are not cool people to get along with. I have met a few Virgos who think this same way, and I didn't want to push the issue of trying to get them to see differently, because I know it's a no-win situation trying to convince a Virgo otherwise.

I believe we are smart, grounded, intuned and caring because we take the time to analyse other people and form an unbiased collective intelligence of what is right and appropriate.
tuscan_sun, save yourself the stress... please I heed thee, do not date Virgo men.
Posted by Cajunspirit

tuscan_sun, save yourself the stress... please I heed thee, do not date Virgo men.


Posted by tuscan_sun

Is that sarcasm cajun?
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Not in the least, It is my honest opinion and advice to you.
That was kind of cruel..
I wasn't talking about you.
lol
Posted by tuscan_sun
Why would you say such a thing, is this in regards to my previous post?


Based on my experiences both personal and external. My observations.
It's only advice, you can heed it or ignore it.
We also notice the faces that hides behind their mask within groups which is why we cannot relate to them because we always want to remain true to ourselves regardless what people may think.

i see through bullshit like its nobodies business
Posted by Learus
To Cajun and Sortilege - With the traits you two just described, you two could be leaders if you wanted to. You both seem to be charismatic in a special way. Don't sell yourselves short.


I often force myself elegantly into the leadership role and try to do as much as I can on my own.
yeah, virgos are usually very self-contained and self-sufficient and such. to have a sense of belonging, you usually have to compromise, and however much they may like to help people and do things for people, they don't like to compromise on their core values.
i know this article is somewhat humorous, but i think it's also pretty spot-on for why human interactions are harder these days than maybe they were in the past. particularly for people who'd rather interact on a genuine level than the superficial level that seems to have become de rigueur.
http://www.cracked.com/article_15231_7-reasons-21st-century-making-you-miserable.html
I concur, wholeheartedly with you curious visitor.
Posted by sortilege85
Curious you'll enjoy this.



i did, thankyou.
i can see some value in texting, but for the most part, i really, really hate it.
Posted by Learus

From my point of view, Virgo core values seem to be created from careful analyzation of details. From there comes logic. Most of what I've seen Virgos use is logic. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think it is more effective to logical values rather than go along with whatever society has declared logical.


Have I ever told you... I love you?
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