Anima and Animus

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I've been thinking about What Branh has been saying about how 'virgos aren't feminine' and I have found a theory that is based off of the psychologist CARL JUNG that provides evidence proving that Virgo could possibly be a masculine sign.....now here it all is...

Carl Jung, a influential figure in neo/post-freudian psych theory is responsible for discovering/coining the terms 'Anima' and 'Animus' to the unconscious mind of the human male, and females....now, as far as psychoanalysis goes, the most powerful, and determining forces of the human personality lies in the unconcious: for the male, that would be the anima, the feminine, unconsious part of his psyche that is responsible for feelings of empathy, nurturance, love, and all forms of femininity, and passivity, for the female, it is the animus, the warring, masculine, dominant driving force of her psyche....

Now if this concept we're to be applied to the zodiac, in two signs SPECIFICALLY Virgo and Scorpio....

Virgo is glyphically represented as the 'female genitals' but despite the signs representation of femininity, the female components of the sign are subdued and the mind is usually the driving force/component of the Virgoan personality with feelings a close second....Now Scorpio is driven PRIMARILY by feelings, and a lack of objectivity which is primarily a 'feminine' principle becuase what is considered 'woman' is primarily driven by feelings without much use or even understanding of objectivity...

Now both signs are typified as 'introverted' and thus the examination of the unconsious is the ONLY way to really see who infact is 'MAN' and 'WOMAN'....

Now, in you're OWN opinion based upon this theory (if it sounds sensible to you) who in fact is which— I have my own opinions, but yours are welcome as well...
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Because they are introverted, and scorpio gives off a more 'impressively' male BRAVADO because it is co-ruled by mars, it esentially is the embodiment of the female personality at work with the animus (mars) at the forefront of it, it can be said Virgo is straightforwardly male, becuase of the rational, detatched temperment it possesses, making the anima present within, but not expressed.....Scorpio is a water sign and is driven by feelings, and can't stand anything cold, or rational....So, Scorpio could be represented by the female genitals becuase of this....

Besides, we don't even know what planet TRULY rules Virgo anyway, so the very nature of Virgo exists in the abstract.....so much is remains unknown about Virgo that speculation is all we've got....
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Sure Keva, being a HUMAN sign it would be androgynous, like aquarius and gemini(appearing as man, or woman)....it could be looked upon as feminine or masculine in APPEARANCE, but BEHAVIOR/PERSONALITY is a different matter, which is why I called focus to the unconsious as that is the origin of gender manerisms, and behavior....

*VE immitates Steven Tyler*

Dude looks like a lad-ay....😛
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gotcha...if that is your perception you can explain it....perception isn't so profound that it evades logical explanation, so could you tell me why—

I feel it could too, but you also said it was androgynous.....I'm a little unsure of what you're getting at....but could you tell me why you believe it's feminine besides the circumstancial reasons of it being female, and representing the female genitals?

I've just explained that becuase of the rational mind that is employed by Virgo, that makes it more 'cerebral' and even gets the rep of being 'detatched' from it's feelings...does this not make it reminiscent of the wind signs— It is more active in the way that they are
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VIRGOEXALTED. You talk about Brahns posts, but in fact, i think i influenced this posts with the comments i made in my forum. Why are you failing to admit the influence? is that you feel more comfortable acting as if Brhan influenced because he is the same sign as you are? You don't think that's a form of subjectivity? which is also a form of bias. Wow , i think you should work on your objectivity. I THINK YOU SHOULD BUY MY WRITINGS ONCE IT IS PUBLISHED. HONESTLY , I HAVE DECIDED I LIKE VRGOS, BUT FOR SOME ODD REASON, I AM CONSTANTLY REMINDED OF WHY I HATE THEM SO MUCH AS WELL. FIRST OFF, VIRGOS TEND TO BE VERY JEALOUS AND VERY COMPETITIVE AGAINST A SIGN THAT they CAn'T COMPETE WITH, (SCORPIO) WE ARE NOT THE SAME,NOR CAN YOU GUYS EVER BE AS INTUNED AND DEEP AS WE ARE. SO MY POINT IS, WHY ARE YOU GUYS CONSTANTLY COMPARING YOURSELVES AND ACTING AS IF THERE IS A COMPARISON, WHEN IN THE END, THE INSECURE POOR, NARCISSISTIC VIRGO WILL TRY IT'S BEST TO BELITTLE OUR SPECIAL AND WILL DENY GIVING US THE PROPS WE OOH SO DESERVE. PLUS, VIRGOS ARE SO SMART, THEY TWIST THE TRUTH around LIKE A LAWYER AND MANIPULATE THE TRUTH SO THAT THEY COME OUT LOOKING AS IF THEY'RE ON TOP!!! (INSECURE VIRGO) I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BIGGIE IS, I MEAN, YOU GUYS ARE JUST A LAID BACK SIGN, NOT TOO INFLUENTIAL, JUST NEUTRAL , CRITICAL AND PERFECTIONISTIC. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE POWERFUL WORD "SCORPIO" IS SUCH A STIMULUS FOR VORGOS. GOSHLY, JUST RESPECT THE QUEENS AND KINGS, BECAUSE YOU GUYS COME OFF AS, JEALOUS.

ANYWAY, AS FAR AS CARL JUNG, I AM IN THAT FIELD AND I CAN TELL YOU ALL ABOUT CARL JUNG. IN FACT, he WAS A psychologists that was obssessed with his theory of archetypes. Research some refereed professional journals, not just google and find out. I think that if you want to talk about virgo's than do so, but leave Scorpios out of it, in fact, virgoexalted, if you're having trouble getting over your childhood trauma , why don't you seek counseling and stop putting Scorpios down, in fact, forget about us, don't even seek our inner deepness any longer, and do not use us a standard to judge yourselves against. Just leave us be. Why are you comparing both signs in your posts?
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This is what animus and anima entails, Carl Jung's theory.

Anima and animus

A part of our persona is the role of male or female we must play. For most people that role is determined by their physical gender. But Jung, like Freud and Adler and others, felt that we are all really bisexual in nature. When we begin our lives as fetuses, we have undifferentiated sex organs that only gradually, under the influence of hormones, become male or female. Likewise, when we begin our social lives as infants, we are neither male nor female in the social sense. Almost immediately -- as soon as those pink or blue booties go on -- we come under the influence of society, which gradually molds us into men and women.

In all societies, the expectations placed on men and women differ, usually based on our different roles in reproduction, but often involving many details that are purely traditional. In our society today, we still have many remnants of these traditional expectations. Women are still expected to be more nurturant and less aggressive; men are still expected to be strong and to ignore the emotional side of life.
I think virgoexalted is once again, manipulating the truth, he is not head on and tends to have something to prove. He needs to feel smart , that is why he over intellectualizes every damn thang. He needs to prove he is smart. Also, Scorpio is the sign of the gentials not Virgo. Virgo is the sign of virgin and is represented by a woman, i think they control the stomach. This sign does lack feminine characteristics,and in my idea , the most feminine sign of the zodiac. Which means that the men, are yes of course intuned with their feminine sides. They are the most intuned out of all the zodiac men. What's so wrong with that? In denial huh?
Also Scorpios could never be subjective because it is sign that digs beneath the surface, sorry but your analysis is subjective and bias and merely based off of your experiences , which is a " projection" a psychological defense mechanism, since you like to read , look it up, it's Freudian, lol Scorpios are not guided by feelings, it's emotion and it's not just emotion alone , it's everything. All things, but in the end, we are psychic and we know it all, lol.... We have traits of all sign , bringing it all end and being the mothers of all signs... I don't know why that's so hard to admit to...



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Anyway, virgexalted, i think you need to do some more research and read up about the Scorpios, and not just base your "OPINIONS" key word , opinion off of your experiences. and you should stop flipping the truth, and manipulating like your fellow opposite , pisces do and just admit that you are in denial. Most of your points stem from some form of hate and resentfulness for your not feeling adaquate. Plus, you should stop judging me based off of my sign alone and suck off. I mean the way to me is through the creator, not my sign... It's really not becoming of you to catergorize ,yet play it off like you fall under such a objective sign, by using sources from somebody else's words, and then over intellectualizing it. I'm just not fooled. A overly logical, book smart person doesn't scare me, bring it on! enough already , i though i'd just set you straight and correct your findings.

No need to respond.
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*VE puts slaps hand to his head*

Here we go AGAIN......🙂 Look fly lets continue this on a board of YOUR creation, that way, you'll at least have home-field advantage should you loose lol....a private little place for you and I to 'chat'.....you got something on you're chest you wanna let off, I'm all ears....BUT NOT ON HERE....this has NOTHING to do with Scorpios being lesser the fucking anyone...wtf can't you see that??!!! But if you feel raw about it in some way, I'll gladly go a round with you...😉

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Keva , your perception is on, and i think you are quite smart!! You don't need to be tricked into explaining your perception,you are on. See virgos are very comfortable over intellectulizing things and appearing to be overly rational, playing mind magic is very important to them , it gives them the grandiose feeling that they are very important that you and I discussed in my narcissistic forum, remember?
Yes, virgo men are very feminine, and analytical ,they are highly verbal and overly intuned with their emotions, which are feminine traits. They are hella feminine. The best of both worlds if you attract one. I like it because, they are kind of moral and know better. They also understand their feelings quite well, unlike most men, however, it's annoying because they can be argumentative, bossy, manipulative, fussy, feminine and play mind games, and they like to argue with women and in my idea, that is bitchy! you never argue with a woman, i don't give a damn what your sign is!
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ooh , i know we are a top sign. I don't want to discuss anything with you and actually from the judges of my posts, I am very happy. I didn't insult anyone. I am trying not to get upset but your posts has very much so upset me, you seem to always try and bash us, because of your own experiences with your dad, yet how many times have i bashed your sign, and i had some of the same experiences as you with my virgo dad.... lol

mY POINT IS, YOU SEEM TO INNUENDOLY PUT SCORPS DOWN AND OR TRY TO MAKE V'S LOOK LIKE THEIR ON TOP, WHEN IN FACT YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG ABOUT MY SIGN AND SHOULD DO MUCH RESEARCH INSTEAD OF GOING AGAINST THE GRAIN. I THINK YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT MY SIGN STEMS FROM JEALOUSY, ANGER, HATING AND RESENTMENT. SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS , DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING, YOU'D LIKE TO GET OFF YOUR CHEST BABY!
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anyway, my point is that I feel the virgo represents the male genitals, and scorpio the females.....feminine experience is more geared towards 'internal/intuitive' experience, which is why I don't understand why it is the likeness to the male genitalia....but it is only the glyph, I feel that based on this theory, Virgo's nature should be more carefully analyzed....

(the anima and animus are the feminine and masculine archetypes that Jung is most renowned for chi...😉 thought you could benefit from that, but then I'm sure you knew that hun 🙂)
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OKAY THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION, BUT I THINK THAT YOU ARE ONCE AGAIN FLIPPING THINGS INTO VIRGO'S BEING SIMILAR TO SCORPIOS, I GET THAT ALOT , WE ARE SO IDEAL!!!!! LOL

NO, VIRGOS CONTROL THE STOMACH AND ARE REPRESENTED BY A FEMALE. SOO CUTE FOR YOU TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND THOUGH. BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT MAKES YOU GUYS LOOK LIKE THE ONLY RATIONAL BEINGS, IN WHICH SCORPIOS DIG FOR THE HIDDEN TRUTHS TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THINGS, WHICH IS VERY RATIONAL SWEETY. WE CONTROL ALL THE GENITIALS, FEMALE AND MALE.. FUCHK IT, IT'S ALL OURS, ASS AND TITS, LOL

BUT IT'S CUTE FOR YOU TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND , HOWEVER, THERE IS NO COMPARISON BETWEEN V'S AND SCORPS. WE ARE WHO WE ARE....

PEACE GOODBYE
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chi, if you're following along with your head here, instead of you're FEELINGS (which really goes back to the point I was making about scorpio being a feminine sign and virgo a masculine sign) this is pointless.....let's just take all the time/space/energy we need and make a board just the two of us to hash out what you think is an UNJUST attack on scorpios....I'll see if I can match you 'all seeing intellect' 😉 lol You're the ONLY one taking things PERSONALLY (no surprise there) so, why not just take the time for you to just holler from the top of you're scorpion lungs, and allow me to listen from the rafters....Honestly, I think if I can deal with my father you'll be a SNAP.

Notice also how you are the ONLY one who feels this way....no one else stepped forward but you....don't you find it profound??!!...but I guess THAT'S becuase you're the only one with nerves of steel correct??!! lol

You martians really sicken me....I mean like bile in my throat....It's that blind fighting instinct that you haven't learned to reign in....I have to say, I'm part martian myself (mars in aries) and am playing YOUR role better THAN you.....lol I'm just mind-screwin' ya now chi....you're feeings are amusing....

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You think we aren't similar—? I mean, look at us chi!!...we're like two peas in a pod...😛

I see now....it's your conservative thinking style (you're not a plutonian) that has you regurgitating the same data over and over.....fly if you're SOOOOOOOOOO powerful, why are you SOOOOOOOOO afraid to step out of your box— LMAO!!!

You aren't giving me YOUR thoughts your giving me a web description you found of the Virgo that we ALREADY KNOW ABOUT....How bout this: you start being big enough (and as incentive I'll make this a challenge.....you martians LUUUUUVE a good challenge correct—)to come up with your OWN opinions and I'll actually start to take them seriously....😉
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I WON'T kiss YOUR ASS AND YOU WON'T KISS MINE, NO LOVE FROM EITHER PARTY...Let's just move along....at least one of us is big enough to see people OUTSIDE of their zodiac sign....lol All that so called intellect and you still don't know how to USE it....pathetic....yet another fallen scorpio....sacrifice yourself to the flame of your ignorance in HOPES that you'll be reborn a wiser soul....that's the ONLY way you'll EVER get to me......you're far to far beneath me...lol

REAL intellect doesn't come from books, I USED to think that but Pluto taught me differently......it taught me to question EVERY belief I had, and sacrifice them so I may grow....knowledge comes from books, intellect comes from thinking for oneself and arriving at ones own conclusions.....to call yourself intelligent, and you manifest NO original thought.....ridiculous.....
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ooh for crying out loud, shut the fuhk up!! sorry, all the comments here are worthless and unworthy of me dignifying it with a response. as i brillantly stated in my other posts in this forum. You are projecting your own experiences and i think you are insane to think you can analyze me , based off of my sign alone. How stupid, I laugh at you, ha ha ha ha . i think that must be the feminine emotions guiding you,,, cornyyy! you can say what you want and think how you want , you are just insecure to me and pathetic.In fact virgos are really truly sensitive and easily offended. Look at how u offend me now. You wish to be strong willed and rational in which you aren't. you don't know what is guiding my posts , you don't know me , all u know is what you have read on those creepy websites and flipped.. I really could care less about you saying what your saying because in the end, you wish to be me...

I think you could learn something,but so stuck in your bashing ways and hatefulness as well as projecting your true feelings about your jealousy on to me , u just can't hang. Plus , you're young, boy how you've grown in the past two years, i'd like to see where your mind will be in two more years. Then lets chat. You can't even get off my sign for a second. Whats with the obsession sheit? Get off of that sign shit, who i am is not defined by that alone, unlike your sign who defines all of who you are., lol


Hell no, we're nothing alike, no one could ever be me, especially not a 19 year old little boy, unless of course you want to be me, a woman,, lol No you're nothing as fly as me...

Anyhow Keva, i feel like what you're saying is real ! they are, androgynous. Just look at this little in touch with his feminine side boy go>>> lol

I dig that, no need to explain myself , I don't have too, besides, i don't seek approval , nor get offended when people disagree... Oh and I'm sure no one has responded to my posts yet , because only three people have replied, smart guy. lol and all those people who responded to this post, disagreed with you....
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NEVER....... YOU SCREWED WITH THE WRONG VIRG BABE...YOU'RE ASS IS MINE..... THIS I CHOOSE NOT TO LET GO OF....anticipate this continuing...good, I repulse you, that means I CONTROL YOU!! WHAT MAKES YOU EVEN BELIEVE YOU DESERVE MY RESPECT—!!! YOU'VE THE NOTHING IT TAKES TO EVEN MAKE ME PASS YOU A GAZE...... LOL SINCE YOU'RE INCAPABLE OF EMOTIONAL RESPONSIBILITY OF MAINTAING YOUR BOUNDARIES I'LL JUST KEEP ON ATTACKING SOMETING WILL GIVE AND IT WONT' BE ME....... but I could never be jealous of you: You have the NOTHING it would take to rouse that type of reation in me.....it seems that you're little mind is STILL not capable of seeing that far into what I'm trying to achieve here and it's just as well....you agitated a very 'special' part of my psyche boo, and now, I'll show it ONLY to you....😉 Ya got the BEST of my love boo...
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Tired already Fly— lol I'll BET you'll think twice before shooting off those STUPID EMOTIONS OF YOURS....If it were only THAT easy...think about it.... me jealous...HAAA!!! I'd rather be hateful, scornful, and vengeful.....I'll do at this POINT WHATEVER IT TAKES TO TAKE YOUR ASS DOWN.....YOU'VE GOT ME NOW, AND I'LL MAKE SURE TO GET YOU....I'd go into specs with you but I just frankly don't give a damn about you so I'll just use you as a fuckin' stracthing post....AND WHEN I CHOOSE TO BE FINISHED I'LL RELEASE YOU, BUT I KNOW THE ONE THING ABOUT YOU THAT KEEPS YOU COMING BACK TO ME BABY....😉 lol

I'll be pressin' that switch o yours from time to time....lol 😛 Nothing you say ever registers ANYWAY, so I'll just devote my time to destroying you...lol You just don't get it DO YOU fly.....when you reveal your frailties/vulnerabilities, I'll take advantage of them EVERYTIME and use them at my discretion....

YOU WILL REGET THE DAY YOU THOUGHT YOU WE'RE MY EQUAL.....
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you sound stupid to me! shut the fuhk up , you sound psycho and dumb., This is an internet, fuhk with me and if i have time, you will go down. You have no power or importance,. This is an internet,you don't know me!! you're insane for that.. and equal. pleasee , you aren't even high enough TO QUALIFY AS AN EQUAL... You sound stupid to me, talking sheit over a website, gosh your worthless as your father made you feel...

funny your such a joke, and funny how you're such a ugly , feminine, reaction formation little boy, with pimples, no girls and a worthless mind, you have the time to go back and fourth. Please, I'm in grad school , i see right through your freudian defenses.

You are corny and wish you knew me , but sorry you don't. You're just a small entity to human life, full of sheit.. You don't know me and you sound stupid to me, so angry and jealous of my sign and me...!! ha ha ha ha hah ha ha lol lol lol

you don't rough my feathers, i'm just here to help the mentally ill///

This feminine emotional response is what we mean by, feminine behavior, you so girly poo girl.... lol sorry azz... get a life... you are too small to see and understand that i was trying to help your small immature mind , and get u to see a clearer perspective... DON'T FUHK WITH ME , OR YOU'LL DIE
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pathetic, just simply pathetic.. lol ha ha ha ha h ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

i mean wouldn't the internet have to mean more to me and be my no-life in order for u to get to me... so pathetic... lol lol lol lol lol lol lo lol lol haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lok

what a good joke , what a good laugh...


ooh and i lied, I'm really a Gemini
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Leave me be, you fuhking idiot. You're so stuck on water signs, and zodiac signs in general, you are basing all your comments to me off of that...!! If my sign truly doesn't represent what you say it does, then why base your expectations and predictions off of my sign... Dummy, you want to argue and you want to get into with other, because you wish to disprove what your daddy made you feel. Sorry that happened to you, but you really need to go to a person who practices Carl Jung's theory of psychotherapy... you need help. sORRY I'M NOT YOUR SORRY DAD. I HAVE TOO MUCH OF A BAD BEHAVIOR VORGO DAD OF MY OWN... LOL
YOU'RE SO OBSESSED WITH MY SIGN, IT'S CRAZY...!!!

GET OFF MY JOCK STRAP, GET OFF MY SIGN'S JOCK YOU COULD NEVER BE US... !!! SORRY SELF. WELL BACK TO STUDYING YOU A DISRESPECTFUL LITTLE BOY... YOU SHOULD BOW DOWN, WITH YOUR EXCESSIVE NEED FOR AN ENERGY BOAST.,... DUMB AZZ..

LOL HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HAHA HA AHA HA HA
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good you came back....I KNEW you would....let it continue....I told you I WON'T LET GO...screw you're fucking sign in the fuckin' douchin' hole you fuckin' bottom-dwellin' scumbag it's good your so small minded otherwise I'd actually feelsome type of way about this...my fucking father is the trash like YOU that made me who I am today...lol I'm quite proud....and for you sake YOU'D HAD BEST NOT BE MY FATHER....I wasn't against bashing his head in with the leg of a chair....lol 😛

It's not your sign or YOU I'm obsessed with boo....it's just using that good old plutonian energy to destroy you.....I'm quite moved by this....you can't do much in the way to MAKE ME BOW.....you're simply running your mouth as usual, nothing worth saying......all just the pathetic plea for someone to stroke your petty ego...do yourself a favor, and stop latching onto every fuckin' word of these astrologers and REALLY take a DEEP, LONG HARD look at YOURSELF.....

But you can't can you— Becuase being a fuckin' SCORPIO MEANS MORE TO YOU THAN YOU MEAN TO YOU!!!!!! LOL
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lol I'm a fuckin' nut bag!!!! hahahahaha!!!! Really being so rational all the time, I never thought that that was in me....but cool, I tapped my inner psycho!!!! Wait....does that mean that I'M.....Nah, of course not!!!! lol 😛 that was fun I want more of it!!!! Thanxxx fly...😉 I mean it SERIOUSLY....everything you said was utter hogwash, but what you SHOWED me...pretty cool....😛
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stupidddddddddddd, dang you're so predictable , repeating the same things over and over... i mean if my sign is so represented by all the untruthful things your dreadful jealous minds speaks on behalf of, then why do you say the opposite... So dumb to make a sign that is full of so much depth and research out to be something it's not... GOSH YOU ARE STUPID , AND AVERAGE... RATIONAL MY AZZ... THAT'S JUST SIMPLY WHAT YOU'VE READ...

SO STUPID, IMMATURE AND FEARFUL, HAVING MUCH TO PROVE.. OLD WEAK AZZ VIRGO... NOONE IS EVEN RESPONDING TO YOUR POSTS. NOR WILL I ANYMORE. I'M MUCH TO WISE AND BEYOND THIS LOWER STUFF TO RESPOND TO YOU. PLUS, YOU ARE JEALOUS AND IGNORANT, MUCH TO IGNORANT TO UNDERSTAND OR BE ABLE TO ADMIT TO WHAT A SCORP IS ALL ABOUT..

U R WORTHLESS, THAT'S WHY NO ONE RESPONDS TO YOU, YOU'RE SIMPLY NOT WORTH THE FUSS...

GOODBYE, GET A LIFE AND SOME USSY...
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"the most powerful, and determining forces of the human personality lies in the unconcious"

"I've always thought of Virgo as rather androgynous."


I would have to agree with this, and not just for Virgo's, rather, everybody. It's unclear to me, though, why exactly there seems to be a concern about Virgo being a feminine sign ... as much focus that is put into this, is suggesting that a threat, or challenge lies with identifying sexuality. Like a Machoism.

Does it really matter what anybody else thinks or belives? Why feel compelled to drive a point that Virgo's are NOT feminine? This only makes the suggestion in the mind that there is guilt associated because only the guilty need a defense.

Anyway, that ^^^ was just my wondering "why".

All souls are both male and female .... any and all of us, at given times throughout our lives, identify with our feminitity or masclinity, according to circumstances as warranted. We can all be, and are .. tender/emotional, and tough/aggressive.

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This is true, Keva .. we have been conditioned to percieve gender roles in certain terms. What I find absolutely brilliant is that we are finally at an age in our evolution where we are questioning these programs, for real. Over the years, people have made mention here and there, and people threw all validity out of the window, and continued to reiterate the importance of gender roles. FINALLY, we have opened our eyes enough now to pull up these ponderings, such as Jung, and others ... and allow ourselves the opportunity to find truth.

Isn't that a beautiful thing? 🙂


"Besides, we don't even know what planet TRULY rules Virgo anyway, so the very nature of Virgo exists in the abstract.....so much is remains unknown about Virgo that speculation is all we've got .."

I do have to reference the above with a comment ... VE, when you said this you were talking about Virgo's specifically, obviously .. however, I believe that a planet is missing for all of us. Inbetween Mars and Jupiter, where the Astroid Belt lies, there once was a planet. The Astroid Belt is the remains, broken pieces of this planet that still orbits .. scattered.

When I look at people, all people .. we are controlled, we are structured, we have this abundance of intelligence, and drive, we are just fucking amazing we are so smart and incrediable as a species, yet ........... we are scattered, chaos, confused.

Sometimes, just the simple things baffle us, or if our hearts are invested in something we can behave like total fools.

It is my belief that the broken Planet Tiamat is our primary emotional planet, and not the moon or venus (which are secondary to Tiamat) .. and because of her/him being broken, so are we emotionally and that's why we struggle so often with emotional composure.
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P- ANGEL, MAYBE THE OTHER SIDES OF US AND INTELLIGENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ASTROLOGY. DUH!

I THINK YOU TRY TO HARD TO BE ABSTRACT AND CONTROVERSIAL. YOU LOVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE, EVERYTHING PEOPLE SAY, YOU TWIST AROUND AND FIND THE OPPOSITE SIDE. YOU SAY ALL THOSE THINGS, OKAY SHOW ME THE RESEARCH, PROVE IT...

JUST LIKE THE DEVIL, " WALKING AROUND HANDING OUT APPLES"

LOL