Breaking up for lack of sex with Virgo

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by mochacaremel on Wednesday, March 17, 2010 and has 36 replies.
Well, I posted earlier about how I am falling in love with a Virguy and all...
But this is just ridiculous.
He won't treetrunk me!
I mean, there will be times when he does...
and then there are mornings where he is just soft and saying
"I can't perform because of stress"
I'm so fed up I can't take it!
What the hell gives!?!
I dated another Virguy years ago and he took me through the wringer
never having sex with me at all...
I swear I can't go through that again. I am so hurt and feel so undesired..
which is crazy because he does EVERYTHING else. EVERY other facet of our
relationship is PERFECTION except the sex area.
Neither one of us approaches the other, we end up talking every night until
we pass out and I wake up knowing yet another night has passed and we didn't
treetrunk. *sigh* I am out of patience, so I bet this will spell the end.
In any given week, we may do it twice. I can't live like that. I'm gonna fallback.
Mocha
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I hate to throw one of my brother's under the bus but...

IF HE ISN'T PUTTING OUT, KICK HIM TO THE CURB! Tongue
A good man makes sure his chic's taken care of in that department.

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Beergo...your avatar makes me horny so...it's difficult to concentrate on the message...and no I'm not gay, I just envision
what I wish my boobs were doing while treetrunking which I'm not getting/doing. So depressing. I'm a Libra, Scorpio Venus, Cancer moon
I. Am. so. repressed. it's just stoopid.
It's a vicious cycle: he doesn't give me any so I'm green with horny energy
he finally gives me some and I come across like a jezebel whore
he appears turned off that I'm a jezebel whore (which I'm not, but I'm starved!)
and then he doesn't give me any...
Rinse wash and repeat.
TREETRUNK! I want to scream and cry at the same time. Because I love him so much
I can't believe THIS is the problem.
Which also drives me crazy to know that I bet he and his Scorpio ex
probably NEVER had this problem, which makes me jealous in the BACK
of my mind...but way in the back. It's more like an afterthought
that gives me heartburn when I ponder and brood.
I need help y'all. I'm about to hire a manwhore to satisfy my needs.
Mocha
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Sorry, I didn't know the word w_h_0re would come out as "just like me" sorry for writing a hard read.
Mocha
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Whoa is that way off base with my VMan experience. Find a man with the same libido as yours. Or get a bunch of toys. Be happy. Peace.
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Handy, handy Dy.
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@Dy, you're pretty clever; however, I do not have "selective amnesia" I remember all my posts
especially since they total < 5.
The Cancer man was a lying two timing w_h_0re if you must know. I just fail to see the relevance...
I stopped seeing the Cancer right before Valentines, met the Virguy on Valentine's and have been with him
everyday ever since, and never talked to the Cancer again.
Back to the relevant point: But I can't deal with this lack of sex thing, which I am beginning to suspect may be a Virgo issue. For control?
Mocha
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Posted by hikoro
Posted by mochacaremel
Beergo...your avatar makes me horny so...it's difficult to concentrate on the message...and no I'm not gay, I just envision
what I wish my boobs were doing while treetrunking which I'm not getting/doing. So depressing. I'm a Libra, Scorpio Venus, Cancer moon

I need help y'all. I'm about to hire a manwhore to satisfy my needs.
Mocha


Mocha,
I was going to ask you if you had scorpio venus.
I also have this placement. Scorpio venus needs/craves sex in relationships and lots of it, it is not that we are nymphos, it is just a sacred act and a way to express each other. Ok, we do need sex, and also depth and intimacy.
Definitely, as VH said, kick him to the curb otherwise, you will feel very angry. The more sexually repressed we are, the angrier we get.
Unfortunately, it is a very loyal placement so it won't be easy for you to break up with him.

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@hikoro, I am so deeply saddened. What you say has that ring of truth to it that, try as I might, I cannot deny the truth.
Treetrunk! I am so upset I could turn over my desk right now...
But, alas, you're right. You must be. I have that pow! in my diaphragm that I get whenever I hear a truth that treetrunking hurts...
It's nice to meet someone who "gets" what Venus in Scorpio is about. It's rough. Real rough.
Mocha
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Posted by hikoro

I also have this placement. Scorpio venus needs/craves sex in relationships and lots of it, it is not that we are nymphos, it is just a sacred act and a way to express each other. Ok, we do need sex, and also depth and intimacy.
Definitely, as VH said, kick him to the curb otherwise, you will feel very angry. The more sexually repressed we are, the angrier we get.



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This is hilarious, sorry.
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Well he doesn't know what time he was born, so when I set his chart to "Idk what time" his Mars is in Taurus
when I make up a time, his moon switches from Taurus to Gemini...and who knows what his Mars is really in.
I do think he's punishing me for something...either that or he can't get turned on by me regularly
because...? Idtreetrunkingk but...I'm on to the next one.
Blows though because when I say we are so compatible in every other area.
He has two kids from a previous relationship with a Scorpio so I just don't see
him being gay...I mean besides that, just being around him so much I don't see
one single gay trait.
Thanks for all the input I really appreciate it...
Mocha
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Meh, maybe he has a low libido. OP's is high. That's not a sign or planetary issue, it's a human one.
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But no matter what time I put in for his birth chart, his Venus is in Scorpio too! Maddening!
I swear I give up and I don't care. I have NEEDS.
@Caj, yeah why is this hilarious? Please expound.
Mocha
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Im be real with you it might just be your boring to him.. I have Sleep with some venus in scorpio chick and they were into that slow boring sex with no crazyness.. I have mars and venus in virgo we have high sex drive and love crazy out of this world sex.. I have a friend who gf is a scorpio and she has venus in scorpio.. she to is in to that slow boring sex he hates it urggg what a drag.. but we virgo men are horn dogs.. If were not having sex with you alot it is bc we think your wack sorry.
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wats his mars by the way
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ok when i first post all that info was not there i see the problem now.. you like him so much bc you both share the same venus.. So you get along romanticly. But you guys have mars opposite his venus, so his sexual needs are different from yours going back to what i saying sex with you is boring to him... hummm you should read up on mars in taurus.
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You've basically been with him 1 month and you're upset about his sex drive? Maybe he thinks you're moving too fast. Since you don't have that much invested in him I'd think it'd be pretty easy to throw in the towel. You don't sound very interested in being sensitive to his needs.
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I was going to be the one to take it slow. Since I had just gotten out of dealing with the Cancer I was seeing.
He told me he was ready to take it THERE
and I succumbed before I really wanted to...my fault.
Then he up and just stopped...treetrunk it, maybe y'all are right
maybe I AM boring to him. I don't take it personal. Everyone is not for everybody.
I just need to walk away though because sexual problems are so *wack* to me.
I have zero tolerance for sexual issues. I don't know why. I think I'm too young
to have to wonder/worry about that.
Bottom line: this issue bugs me because,
1) He could've communicated more
2) I should've seen the incompatibility sooner? Idk. I don't care anymore.
I need it everyday and I will keep looking until I find someone who will do it everyday.
I'm done.
Mocha
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perhaps your a horrible lay, just a thoguht
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Wow. You fal in love to easily
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HIS CHART Planets & Houses
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 __TIME UNKNOWN__
Sun Virgo 26.04
Moon Gemini 19.25
Mercury Libra 9.13
Venus Scorpio 6.46
Mars Taurus 9.15
Jupiter Aquarius 2.26 R
Saturn Cancer 4.02
Uranus Libra 21.43
Neptune Sagittarius 4.58
Pluto Libra 3.59
Lilith Capricorn 3.51
Asc node Capricorn 3.42
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MY CHART
Sun Libra 2.28 Ascendant Aquarius 20.30
Moon Cancer 21.02 II Aries 9.23
Mercury Virgo 28.35 III Taurus 13.46
Venus Scorpio 14.42 IV Gemini 8.11
Mars Scorpio 4.05 V Gemini 29.00
Jupiter Leo 3.39 VI Cancer 20.55
Saturn Virgo 7.37 VII Leo 20.30
Uranus Scorpio 14.07 VIII Libra 9.23
Neptune Sagittarius 15.47 IX Scorpio 13.46
Pluto Libra 16.04 Midheaven Sagittarius 8.11
Lilith Cancer 28.01 XI Sagittarius 29.00
Asc node Virgo 26.47 XII Capricorn 20.55
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I will admit, I fall in love quite easily. I'm not ashamed. That's me.
Still hurts when it goes wrong though...
Yes, I've mentioned it to him.
He says he's under stress.
(He's unemployed at the moment)
I just have so little patience at this point,
because he is so gorgeous,
it's almost torture to be around a beautiful
person...and not be able to...
be satisfied.
Fine, I will try one more conversation (although there have been several)
and see what he thinks. He really is a great guy whom I'd hate to lose.
Mocha
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Well hikro my mars is conj my sun in other sun sign it is as you say but when a virgo sun has a virgo mars it makes them very sexual.. You should look at aspects more sun conj mars gives you alot of energy.. I'm always jumping around lol.. I know one porno star that has it.. Mr. markus i don't know if you heard of him but he is a virgo sun and mars.. Don't sleep on the virgo mars you might be surprise..
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Posted by hikoro
Posted by Cajunspirit
This is hilarious, sorry.


Why is that, Caj?
A thought: had it been a man complaining about his woman's sex drive, many would not see it as being hilarious at all.


Posted by mochacaremel

@Caj, yeah why is this hilarious? Please expound.
Mocha
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For exactly the reason hikoro gave.
First time I have heard a woman complain about this! Hahahaha.
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@hikoro, You are so right! gosh. You're brilliant.
I have an update. Turns out the unemployed issue, made him feel as though
if he were to sleep with me continuously, he would feel like...a pimp, of sorts...
he didn't want to "use" me. He said he couldn't "afford" to sleep with me because
he didn't have anything to contribute to deserve the "privilege". I was blown away.
Needless to say, we're going to work through this...
Mocha
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Posted by hikoro
Posted by ???Ariane???
Why are you people picking on Mocha? Saying shes "boring" and "wack in bed"...excuse me? How could anyone pretend to know what shes like in bed, and this possibly be her fault? She says she loves sex, and wants it everyday...which is great. If he doesnt like her sex..then he needs to do things: communicate his needs/issues or stop seeing her altogether so she can get what she desires, which is a healthy sexual relationship that is satisfying to her.
Men are so quick to blame the woman.




Only VK mentioned this and it is because he does not like anything Scorpio, he is biased. Don't let this rile you up.
But you are right, it is an unfortunate double standard. Had it been the other way around, not too many people would think that her Virgo is boring in sex.
On the other hand, if it is the woman who has the complaint, then there must be something wrong with her sex drive, as if, it is impossible to fathom the idea that there are men who have a low sex drive. Therefore, let's blame the woman. Period.
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Not really it was just an observation you guys are so touchy even if he wasn't a virgo I would have said the same thing.. But its not that so all is well you guys need to get tougher skin.
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WELL it was the first thing I thought of because I as a virgo man am never like that unless I was bored with the sex... The last time I had that was with a virgo who had scorpio venus so thats why I said what I said.. And before you say well maybe because she a virgo no I had a virgo before her and she was not like that, I will try another scorpio venus but I have notice this problem since I have been into astrology.. I have two friends that are like me who like excitement, they were complaining about there girls so I look at there chart and it just so happen they have scorpio venus to.. But I do know one person that has a scorpio venus and she a freak.. But she has a lot of fire in her chart so I guess it spice it up a bit for her.. I really don't care to much about scorpios to me there over rated but if I notice something I will say it..
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Posted by hikoro
Posted by virgoking
ok when i first post all that info was not there i see the problem now.. you like him so much bc you both share the same venus.. So you get along romanticly. But you guys have mars opposite his venus, so his sexual needs are different from yours going back to what i saying sex with you is boring to him... hummm you should read up on mars in taurus.


In the contrary VK, mars opposing venus in synastry indicates high-strong sexual compatibility. So if anything, they should be doing it like rabbits right now.
I highly doubt that it is a venus-mars issue, something else is going on. I think that Dy and Shaks are right on this one.
And to add, mars in virgo is rarely sexual, if anything, I bet it is your Scorpio rising that is giving you that extra humph smile or, if you happen to have venus or mars in the 8th house or other aspects in connection to pluto-8th house-scorpio.
Mars in virgo is not the most sexual and initiative sign, just judging from astrological anecdotes.
Although funny thing, mars is in detriment in Taurus:
When Mars is in Taurus, Mars is weighted down and prevented from taking action as quickly and impulsively as it would like. In Taurus, Mars worries about finding a practical, sensible, stable course of action. Mars in Taurus can grow extremely frustrated, and very angry. The less action it is able to take, the more the pressure builds.
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Good stuff. I'm definetly getting a better understanding of mars in virg and mars in leo. i needed that
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Posted by hikoro
Posted by virgoking
ok when i first post all that info was not there i see the problem now.. you like him so much bc you both share the same venus.. So you get along romanticly. But you guys have mars opposite his venus, so his sexual needs are different from yours going back to what i saying sex with you is boring to him... hummm you should read up on mars in taurus.


In the contrary VK, mars opposing venus in synastry indicates high-strong sexual compatibility. So if anything, they should be doing it like rabbits right now.
I highly doubt that it is a venus-mars issue, something else is going on. I think that Dy and Shaks are right on this one.
And to add, mars in virgo is rarely sexual, if anything, I bet it is your Scorpio rising that is giving you that extra humph smile or, if you happen to have venus or mars in the 8th house or other aspects in connection to pluto-8th house-scorpio.
Mars in virgo is not the most sexual and initiative sign, just judging from astrological anecdotes.
Although funny thing, mars is in detriment in Taurus:
When Mars is in Taurus, Mars is weighted down and prevented from taking action as quickly and impulsively as it would like. In Taurus, Mars worries about finding a practical, sensible, stable course of action. Mars in Taurus can grow extremely frustrated, and very angry. The less action it is able to take, the more the pressure builds.


Good stuff. I'm definetly getting a better understanding of mars in virg and mars in leo. i needed that
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what mars do you have
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Posted by hikoro
Posted by BrightasOrion
Wow. You fal in love to easily


Of course, Mocha is a Libra.
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Just pointing it out to her. Libra's wear rose glasses and think every lover is the one until they take those glasses off. But heyy... My mother in law is the same way. She's going through a divorce after 28 yrs and still refuses to believe the man was wrong for her. Her son died because of this man, plus he has a 350k life insurance policy on her son which he refused to bury her son with (8 years ago)the money and give her or the child any money of it. Still till this day nothing!!! Libra's are smart but just as niave as Gem's (which I think Gem's are smart). I hope she takes him to the cleaner!! Just my observation. My daughter is a Gem and I will be damned if I let her be naive like that. I will be on her ass till i croak,, Literally!!
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Posted by virgoking
Posted by BrightasOrion
Posted by hikoro
Posted by virgoking
ok when i first post all that info was not there i see the problem now.. you like him so much bc you both share the same venus.. So you get along romanticly. But you guys have mars opposite his venus, so his sexual needs are different from yours going back to what i saying sex with you is boring to him... hummm you should read up on mars in taurus.


In the contrary VK, mars opposing venus in synastry indicates high-strong sexual compatibility. So if anything, they should be doing it like rabbits right now.
I highly doubt that it is a venus-mars issue, something else is going on. I think that Dy and Shaks are right on this one.
And to add, mars in virgo is rarely sexual, if anything, I bet it is your Scorpio rising that is giving you that extra humph smile or, if you happen to have venus or mars in the 8th house or other aspects in connection to pluto-8th house-scorpio.
Mars in virgo is not the most sexual and initiative sign, just judging from astrological anecdotes.
Although funny thing, mars is in detriment in Taurus:
When Mars is in Taurus, Mars is weighted down and prevented from taking action as quickly and impulsively as it would like. In Taurus, Mars worries about finding a practical, sensible, stable course of action. Mars in Taurus can grow extremely frustrated, and very angry. The less action it is able to take, the more the pressure builds.


Good stuff. I'm definetly getting a better understanding of mars in virg and mars in leo. i needed that

what mars do you have
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Pick a personality. Mars in Leo or Mars in Virgo...
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I found this to be the case as well, being a scorpio, it's just like breathing, that's a given. But over time, I noticed, that virgos don't have that higher sex drive, as we do. I found this, to be surprising, given, that most of what is said about them beggs to differ, interesting!
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Well folks, I'm back. I just don't know what to do anymore. We've talked about it, he knows what I need, I know what he needs
I'm trying to be more patient because I know he feels bad not having a job, I just can't shake this feeling that something is amiss
in our sexual dealings. I am about to give up from sheer frustration...
I guess we just don't know how to turn each other on.
Also, I don't know what level his libido is on, but I'm positive I have him beat.
I am so *ugh* frustrated.
Just wanted to drop a line and say the problem is back.
Mocha
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Posted by BrightasOrion
Posted by hikoro
Posted by BrightasOrion
Wow. You fal in love to easily


Of course, Mocha is a Libra.


Just pointing it out to her. Libra's wear rose glasses and think every lover is the one until they take those glasses off. But heyy... My mother in law is the same way. She's going through a divorce after 28 yrs and still refuses to believe the man was wrong for her. Her son died because of this man, plus he has a 350k life insurance policy on her son which he refused to bury her son with (8 years ago)the money and give her or the child any money of it. Still till this day nothing!!! Libra's are smart but just as niave as Gem's (which I think Gem's are smart). I hope she takes him to the cleaner!! Just my observation. My daughter is a Gem and I will be damned if I let her be naive like that. I will be on her ass till i croak,, Literally!!
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Wow...that is a sad story! What a terrible man! I am the same way with my daughter but she is a Leo so she doesn't take too much shit. My mom's a Libra and her ex which is the father of my brother's and sister was HORRIBLE and he nearly killed her when he kicked her in the spleen with steel toe boots!! He had also moved in his mistress with the family!!! She FINALLY left him after that. I know it wasn't as easy back then since she had no skills and had never worked but I still find it hard to believe that she put up with all of that! She is still quite naive and gullible and she is 75 now! Such a super loving person she is for sure!
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Okay, I really had to have a heart with my VM...it worked. I totally seduced him.
That was a challenge (as it seems figuring out a VM's turnons is difficult)
There was one point in which I took off my lingerie and
changed into regular pjs because I was so disgusted at his awkwardness...
He was saying that he "didn't know what to do in situations like these" and other
"I wanna pretend like I'm a virgin" babble...
Then I kissed him...and walked away.
Then he walked over to me and kissed me.
And then it was on.
All in all? Excellent.
I think in the end I am just being impatient and indecisive in my "should I leave him
alone or stay" balancing act but I know I can't leave him alone, because I love him.
I just don't admit to myself that I do. I do not enjoy the Libra back and forth...
I'll try keeping more of THAT to myself...
Mocha
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