Cold Virgo Venus
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What's up with Virgo Venus? The one I was dealing with had a cold approach and was super reserved the entire time.
Her - Virgo Sun, Aries moon, Virgo Venus
So anyway, we had our second date Sunday. She drove down from Orlando and everything went well. I planned for us to go axe throwing. After we finish, I asked if she was hungry to which she replied yes. We went to a bar down the street that I frequent often as they do karaoke.
She ordered a sweet/fruity drink she did not end up liking. Of course, she plays it off and does not want to make a fuss. I end up talking to the waiter and she takes the drink off the tab and was super cool about everything. Finally, the guys performing music show up and I crack a couple jokes about their performance to which she laughs.
The waiter brings the bill and it's sitting on the table for 10 mins or so. I finally reach for it, and she creates an awkward moment and decides to pull out her card now. She offers to pay for her half, and I tell her she can cash app me. Shortly after this she jokingly (insecurely) mentions how she could not find me on social media. I kept it light and said we can exchange information I'm not married or anything in a jokingly way.
She didn't find it that funny and did not offer her information. I thought it was strange that she didn't just ask me, but tried to find information without saying anything. She then asked if I looked her social media up and I said no. After this, we got into a conversation about if she was approached, what would she give out, number or Instagram.
At this point, I wasn't sure of her interest so I went ahead and kissed her at the end of the date and she did not reject it, but she didn't stick around. She reaches out to let me know she made it home and I reached out to her last night seeing how she was doing.
She waits to respond until this morning and is a bit dry. After 3-4 messages, I went ahead and asked her for her social media and she abruptly responds that "this isn't going to work, thanks for your time."
Super weird, seeing as both dates she took the time to compliment me quite often and she was genuinely more curious with background and emotional stability questions rather then asking me what my instagram is..
Interview vibe the entire time and I called her out on it. She apologized and said she hosts a podcast and it's natural for her. She had a checklist, but what i'm confused about is her sudden change of behavior.
Was it the kiss? Or she was upset about the social media issue. I offered it to her, so I don't see what the problem is.
Her - Virgo Sun, Aries moon, Virgo Venus
So anyway, we had our second date Sunday. She drove down from Orlando and everything went well. I planned for us to go axe throwing. After we finish, I asked if she was hungry to which she replied yes. We went to a bar down the street that I frequent often as they do karaoke.
She ordered a sweet/fruity drink she did not end up liking. Of course, she plays it off and does not want to make a fuss. I end up talking to the waiter and she takes the drink off the tab and was super cool about everything. Finally, the guys performing music show up and I crack a couple jokes about their performance to which she laughs.
The waiter brings the bill and it's sitting on the table for 10 mins or so. I finally reach for it, and she creates an awkward moment and decides to pull out her card now. She offers to pay for her half, and I tell her she can cash app me. Shortly after this she jokingly (insecurely) mentions how she could not find me on social media. I kept it light and said we can exchange information I'm not married or anything in a jokingly way.
She didn't find it that funny and did not offer her information. I thought it was strange that she didn't just ask me, but tried to find information without saying anything. She then asked if I looked her social media up and I said no. After this, we got into a conversation about if she was approached, what would she give out, number or Instagram.
At this point, I wasn't sure of her interest so I went ahead and kissed her at the end of the date and she did not reject it, but she didn't stick around. She reaches out to let me know she made it home and I reached out to her last night seeing how she was doing.
She waits to respond until this morning and is a bit dry. After 3-4 messages, I went ahead and asked her for her social media and she abruptly responds that "this isn't going to work, thanks for your time."
Super weird, seeing as both dates she took the time to compliment me quite often and she was genuinely more curious with background and emotional stability questions rather then asking me what my instagram is..
Interview vibe the entire time and I called her out on it. She apologized and said she hosts a podcast and it's natural for her. She had a checklist, but what i'm confused about is her sudden change of behavior.
Was it the kiss? Or she was upset about the social media issue. I offered it to her, so I don't see what the problem is.
What is her ASC?
Posted by SomDon't have it, but it was either Sag or an Earth sign definitely.
What is her ASC?
I thought it was just me who doesn’t like this placement for how rigid and detached (this coming from Aqua stellium who is famous for this) they are , but I’m glad you saw it too. They are hard to read because they are insecure and overthinking the entire time, which leads to self-sabotage.
I dated a Virgo Venus and mars male a long time ago and from date 1 to the end, I had to give plenty of reassurances and had to communicate every step of the way for everything. As a sign who endorses communication, they just require way too much because of that overthinking, neuroticism, cynicism and plain ol insecure. Too much work!
I dated a Virgo Venus and mars male a long time ago and from date 1 to the end, I had to give plenty of reassurances and had to communicate every step of the way for everything. As a sign who endorses communication, they just require way too much because of that overthinking, neuroticism, cynicism and plain ol insecure. Too much work!
Probably cause she spilt the check on the first date. It sat there for 10 minutes after you guys were done and she offered, to be nice, and you took her up on paying half.
At least wait until the second date to do this lol
At least wait until the second date to do this lol
Could you please answer how you distinguish Virgo Venus from Virgo Mars? How do they differ for you? @aquarius09
Posted by aquarius09
I dated a Virgo Venus and mars male a long time ago and from date 1 to the end, I had to give plenty of reassurances and had to communicate every step of the way for everything. As a sign who endorses communication, they just require way too much because of that overthinking, neuroticism, cynicism and plain ol insecure. Too much work!
Posted by aquarius09I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I was being interviewed from the moment we met. I didn't mind her company, but come on stop being a tight ass and enjoy the date.
I thought it was just me who doesn’t like this placement for how rigid and detached (this coming from Aqua stellium who is famous for this) they are , but I’m glad you saw it too. They are hard to read because they are insecure and overthinking the entire time, which leads to self-sabotage.
I dated a Virgo Venus and mars male a long time ago and from date 1 to the end, I had to give plenty of reassurances and had to communicate every step of the way for everything. As a sign who endorses communication, they just require way too much because of that overthinking, neuroticism, cynicism and plain ol insecure. Too much work!
Over-analyzing every detail said, and in her head the entire time. Then had the nerve to say she couldn't read me!!!
I'm baffled.
Posted by saggurl88
Probably cause she spilt the check on the first date. It sat there for 10 minutes after you guys were done and she offered, to be nice, and you took her up on paying half.
At least wait until the second date to do this lol
No this was the second date. I paid on the first and I paid for axe throwing which was the second date. She offered to split her meal (after waiting 10 mins) after the axe throwing but went about it awkwardly and didn't even cash app me.
Posted by LuckyLibra7Yeah, the reason they are incapable of reading others is because they are too preoccupied being in their head and over analyzing/nitpicking everything about the person across from them to actually focus on them (what they are actually saying/doing). They weren’t even paying attention.Posted by aquarius09
I thought it was just me who doesn’t like this placement for how rigid and detached (this coming from Aqua stellium who is famous for this) they are , but I’m glad you saw it too. They are hard to read because they are insecure and overthinking the entire time, which leads to self-sabotage.
I dated a Virgo Venus and mars male a long time ago and from date 1 to the end, I had to give plenty of reassurances and had to communicate every step of the way for everything. As a sign who endorses communication, they just require way too much because of that overthinking, neuroticism, cynicism and plain ol insecure. Too much work!
I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but I was being interviewed from the moment we met. I didn't mind her company, but come on stop being a tight ass and enjoy the date.
Over-analyzing every detail said, and in her head the entire time. Then had the nerve to say she couldn't read me!!!
I'm baffled.click to expand
Yep, they can stay in their head by themselves. I hate it when I catch this placement on a romantic placement. Arghhhhh!!!!
Posted by SomWho cares to distinguish the two? Virgo placement in moon, Venus and mars is all too insecure and emotional unstable for me.
Could you please answer how you distinguish Virgo Venus from Virgo Mars? How do they differ for you? @aquarius09
Posted by aquarius09
I dated a Virgo Venus and mars male a long time ago and from date 1 to the end, I had to give plenty of reassurances and had to communicate every step of the way for everything. As a sign who endorses communication, they just require way too much because of that overthinking, neuroticism, cynicism and plain ol insecure. Too much work!click to expand
Posted by aquarius09Posted by Som
Could you please answer how you distinguish Virgo Venus from Virgo Mars? How do they differ for you? @aquarius09
Posted by aquarius09
I dated a Virgo Venus and mars male a long time ago and from date 1 to the end, I had to give plenty of reassurances and had to communicate every step of the way for everything. As a sign who endorses communication, they just require way too much because of that overthinking, neuroticism, cynicism and plain ol insecure. Too much work!
Who cares to distinguish the two? Virgo placement in moon, Venus and mars is all too insecure and emotionally and mentally unstable (not in a clinical kind of unstable) for me.click to expand
I care because IMO Venus always gives the best traits of the sign, and Mars emphazises the traits, but Virgo is the sign which I cannot interpret, I do not understand Virgo. It is interesting to me that you do not make the difference. @aquarius09
Posted by aquarius09
Who cares to distinguish the two? Virgo placement in moon, Venus and mars is all too insecure and emotional unstable for me.
Posted by SomIsn't Virgo Mars a pleaser? Seeking to satisfy their partner through actions, but not expressing it verbally?
I care because IMO Venus always gives the best traits of the sign, and Mars emphazises the traits, but Virgo is the sign which I cannot interpret, I do not inderstand Virgo. It is interesting to me that you do not make the difference. @aquarius09
Posted by aquarius09
Who cares to distinguish the two? Virgo placement in moon, Venus and mars is all too insecure and emotional unstable for me.
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Virgo's aren't that complicated IMO. All that i've dealt with are a bit critical and rigid. But they would seek to discuss the problem if they had one.
This chick is the first Virgo I've dealt with that completely mission aborted and shot herself in the foot so soon.
Posted by LuckyLibra7It was on the same day or different days? Same day equals just 1 date, but different locations.Posted by saggurl88
Probably cause she spilt the check on the first date. It sat there for 10 minutes after you guys were done and she offered, to be nice, and you took her up on paying half.
At least wait until the second date to do this lol
No this was the second date. I paid on the first and I paid for axe throwing which was the second date. She offered to split her meal (after waiting 10 mins) after the axe throwing but went about it awkwardly and didn't even cash app me.click to expand
She was probably wondering why you both were just sitting there staring at the check! That would make it awkward. I don't think she meant to pay and was just being polite.
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Posted by LuckyLibra7She didn't shoot herself in the foot. She just knew you weren't what she was looking for.Posted by Som
I care because IMO Venus always gives the best traits of the sign, and Mars emphazises the traits, but Virgo is the sign which I cannot interpret, I do not inderstand Virgo. It is interesting to me that you do not make the difference. @aquarius09Posted by aquarius09
Who cares to distinguish the two? Virgo placement in moon, Venus and mars is all too insecure and emotional unstable for me.
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Isn't Virgo Mars a pleaser? Seeking to satisfy their partner through actions, but not expressing it verbally?
Virgo's aren't that complicated IMO. All that i've dealt with are a bit critical and rigid. But they would seek to discuss the problem if they had one.
This chick is the first Virgo I've dealt with that completely mission aborted and shot herself in the foot so soon.click to expand
Both sexes know within about an hour whether they are attracted to the other person and for whatever reason, you turned her off.
At least she was straight up with you and didn't waste your time.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by Som
I care because IMO Venus always gives the best traits of the sign, and Mars emphazises the traits, but Virgo is the sign which I cannot interpret, I do not inderstand Virgo. It is interesting to me that you do not make the difference. @aquarius09Posted by aquarius09
Who cares to distinguish the two? Virgo placement in moon, Venus and mars is all too insecure and emotional unstable for me.
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Isn't Virgo Mars a pleaser? Seeking to satisfy their partner through actions, but not expressing it verbally?
Virgo's aren't that complicated IMO. All that i've dealt with are a bit critical and rigid. But they would seek to discuss the problem if they had one.
This chick is the first Virgo I've dealt with that completely mission aborted and shot herself in the foot so soon.
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She didn't shoot herself in the foot. She just knew you weren't what she was looking for.
Both sexes know within about an hour whether they are attracted to the other person and for whatever reason, you turned her off.
At least she was straight up with you and didn't waste your time.click to expand
We've been talking for 3 weeks and I've dealt with her endless interview questions. This was sabotage at this point. We've already met and spent several hours together in person.
She wouldn't have driven down here if she wasn't interested.
Posted by 1917191No idea, my ASC is in Virgo.
She sounds serious/reserved and you are more laid back/fun. Two very different people.
Probably for the best she ended it after date two and not waste your time?
I have Venus in Virgo.
She didn't care to banter much though.
Posted by LuckyLibra7She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
I know a man with Virgo Mars who calls himself the most miserable person in the world, meaning by this endless discontentment about himself and excessive demands on others. @LuckyLibra7
Posted by LuckyLibra7
Isn't Virgo Mars a pleaser? Seeking to satisfy their partner through actions, but not expressing it verbally?
Virgo's aren't that complicated IMO. All that i've dealt with are a bit critical and rigid. But they would seek to discuss the problem if they had one.
This chick is the first Virgo I've dealt with that completely mission aborted and shot herself in the foot so soon.
Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also. Don't do me like that, I take care of who I date.
Posted by LuckyLibra7Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.click to expand
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
I can assure you virgo venus can be the most cuddly ppl you will ever meet... IF THEY LIKE YOU... and that will take them YEARS to figure out.
Posted by saggurl88It is because if y'all split it, you don't know if she'll be offended.Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.
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Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
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Ah, it was like an hour and 30. It is far, but she didn't seem like she had a lot of emotional baggage. Claimed to have been to therapy and had a 7-year relationship previously, no kids.
So, I thought why not?
I had a cappy, aqua and her. Now I'm back to square one
Lol
She probably thought you'd offer to let her stay over since she made the long drive. But then when she got home after driving another 2 hours she probably thought it wouldn't work.
I've delt with Virgo Venus man so I kind of know what you're referring to when not able to read them but at the same time he made himself clear that he liked me.
She probably thought you'd offer to let her stay over since she made the long drive. But then when she got home after driving another 2 hours she probably thought it wouldn't work.
I've delt with Virgo Venus man so I kind of know what you're referring to when not able to read them but at the same time he made himself clear that he liked me.
Posted by SeaLion
Lol
She probably thought you'd offer to let her stay over since she made the long drive. But then when she got home after driving another 2 hours she probably thought it wouldn't work.
I've delt with Virgo Venus man so I kind of know what you're referring to when not able to read them but at the same time he made himself clear that he liked me.
With how reserved she was? Nah..
I would have offered, but she had already mentioned she was leaving around 8 ish. We spent several hours out.
But the drive is fair. She lives with her parents (saving to purchase a house). Might have figured she wasn't doing that every weekend.
Posted by LuckyLibra7Women do not get offended when a man pays lol Is that what you tell yourself?Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.
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Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
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It is because if y'all split it, you don't know if she'll be offended.
Ah, it was like an hour and 30. It is far, but she didn't seem like she had a lot of emotional baggage. Claimed to have been to therapy and had a 7-year relationship previously, no kids.
So, I thought why not?
I had a cappy, aqua and her. Now I'm back to square oneclick to expand
I don't know how old you are, but I would've done the same thing.
I'm not driving 2 hours just to split the bill of a date you picked and planned.
I can see having the conversation ahead of time, but on the spot and now I'm paying half? NOPE!
It makes that drive extra long on the way back home, cause I would be irritated.
I think it was her Aries moon that made this quick decision, not her Venus.
Posted by MonaLisa26I did pay?Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Yeah! Exactly! She drove!!! And you couldn’t PAY? Wheeeeew!!! Cheapo!click to expand
This wasn't the first date and it had nothing to do with being cheap.
She offered and I said she could just pay me later, but I didn't press or ask her about it.
Some women start feeling awkward when the guy pays every single time. Some men use that as leverage for sex, rather then being a gentleman.
Posted by LuckyLibra7IF that's the case then a woman would say that, and offer to pay. Not wait around to see who's gonna grab the bill first.Posted by MonaLisa26Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Yeah! Exactly! She drove!!! And you couldn’t PAY? Wheeeeew!!! Cheapo!
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I did pay?
This wasn't the first date and it had nothing to do with being cheap.
She offered and I said she could just pay me later, but I didn't press or ask her about it.
Some women start feeling awkward when the guy pays every single time. Some men use that as leverage for sex, rather then being a gentleman.
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Most women just think of it as being a gentleman when a guy pays or just being a traditional value man.
But you using this as a reason to have her pay half isn't gonna get you far with women.
Have the conversation upfront to see what type of man they date financially. There are some women who are fine with paying, and there are some where it's a dealbreaker.
Posted by saggurl88You're confused.Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.
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Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
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It is because if y'all split it, you don't know if she'll be offended.
Ah, it was like an hour and 30. It is far, but she didn't seem like she had a lot of emotional baggage. Claimed to have been to therapy and had a 7-year relationship previously, no kids.
So, I thought why not?
I had a cappy, aqua and her. Now I'm back to square one
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Women do not get offended when a man pays lol Is that what you tell yourself?
I don't know how old you are, but I would've done the same thing.
I'm not driving 2 hours just to split the bill of a date you picked and planned.
I can see having the conversation ahead of time, but on the spot and now I'm paying half? NOPE!
It makes that drive extra long on the way back home, cause I would be irritated.
I think it was her Aries moon that made this quick decision, not her Venus.
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The axe throwing was already paid for ahead of time. She peeped at the food bill several times after I paid for it.
She may have just been waiting to see when I was ready to go. But I think she offered considering the total amount was about $ 100.
Posted by SomInteresting you say that. All Venus in Virgo people I have met are miserable and depressed. Whether they are clinically depressed is a separate matter. My Venus and mars in Virgo said the same things you mentioned. He was always putting himself and others down. In the same vein, as contradictory as this is, he was also pretty uppity and felt he was too good for women he previously slept with and talked down about others. Hypocrite to his core.
I know a man with Virgo Mars who calls himself the most miserable person in the world, meaning by this endless discontentment about himself and excessive demands on others. @LuckyLibra7
Posted by LuckyLibra7
Isn't Virgo Mars a pleaser? Seeking to satisfy their partner through actions, but not expressing it verbally?
Virgo's aren't that complicated IMO. All that i've dealt with are a bit critical and rigid. But they would seek to discuss the problem if they had one.
This chick is the first Virgo I've dealt with that completely mission aborted and shot herself in the foot so soon.click to expand
My sister in law is also Venus and mars in Virgo and is perennially miserable. Always shows up to family events with a frown and makes no effort to socialize. We let her be and don’t entertain her misery.
My aunt is triple Virgo and totally miserable.
I have a friend with the placements of OPs dates and while she’s super miserable about being single, it doesn’t stop her from self-sabotaging her dates.
Posted by saggurl88It depends on the woman.Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by MonaLisa26Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Yeah! Exactly! She drove!!! And you couldn’t PAY? Wheeeeew!!! Cheapo!
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I did pay?
This wasn't the first date and it had nothing to do with being cheap.
She offered and I said she could just pay me later, but I didn't press or ask her about it.
Some women start feeling awkward when the guy pays every single time. Some men use that as leverage for sex, rather then being a gentleman.
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IF that's the case then a woman would say that, and offer to pay. Not wait around to see who's gonna grab the bill first.
Most women just think of it as being a gentleman when a guy pays or just being a traditional value man.
But you using this as a reason to have her pay half isn't gonna get you far with women.
Have the conversation upfront to see what type of man they date financially. There are some women who are fine with paying, and there are some where it's a dealbreaker.click to expand
Some have no issue with it and then some fight you tooth and nail to pay.
Like I already said, the total was about $ 100 for the whole night so she politely wanted to pay her end. Considering she didn't finish her food either and complained about the drink.
The dealbreaker of paying happens on the first date. I highly doubt that was her logic of not wanting to continue. It's tied into the social media issue and over-thinking.
Posted by slugPosted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.
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Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
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It is because if y'all split it, you don't know if she'll be offended.
Ah, it was like an hour and 30. It is far, but she didn't seem like she had a lot of emotional baggage. Claimed to have been to therapy and had a 7-year relationship previously, no kids.
So, I thought why not?
I had a cappy, aqua and her. Now I'm back to square one
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Women do not get offended when a man pays lol Is that what you tell yourself?
I don't know how old you are, but I would've done the same thing.
I'm not driving 2 hours just to split the bill of a date you picked and planned.
I can see having the conversation ahead of time, but on the spot and now I'm paying half? NOPE!
It makes that drive extra long on the way back home, cause I would be irritated.
I think it was her Aries moon that made this quick decision, not her Venus.
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I feel like this is a little harsh 😂
He drove 2 hours for the first date and paid. Paid for the axe throwing on the second date and was going to pay for the meal too but she got her card out and offered. So he said she can pay him later, he never asked for it and she never paid it.. so he still paid for the meal. 😂click to expand
You're a Virgo with an Aries moon right? What are your thoughts about the date?
I know Virgo women usually like being treated like princesses, they prefer the princess treatment, IMO.
Oops NVM- You're the opposite Aries sun Virgo moon. I got confused for a sec
Posted by slugLmao they're completely ignoring all of that. Then called me a cheap ass LMAOOOPosted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.
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Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
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It is because if y'all split it, you don't know if she'll be offended.
Ah, it was like an hour and 30. It is far, but she didn't seem like she had a lot of emotional baggage. Claimed to have been to therapy and had a 7-year relationship previously, no kids.
So, I thought why not?
I had a cappy, aqua and her. Now I'm back to square one
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Women do not get offended when a man pays lol Is that what you tell yourself?
I don't know how old you are, but I would've done the same thing.
I'm not driving 2 hours just to split the bill of a date you picked and planned.
I can see having the conversation ahead of time, but on the spot and now I'm paying half? NOPE!
It makes that drive extra long on the way back home, cause I would be irritated.
I think it was her Aries moon that made this quick decision, not her Venus.
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I feel like this is a little harsh 😂
He drove 2 hours for the first date and paid. Paid for the axe throwing on the second date and was going to pay for the meal too but she got her card out and offered. So he said she can pay him later, he never asked for it and she never paid it.. so he still paid for the meal. 😂click to expand
Posted by LuckyLibra7I'm giving you a hard time about it, but don't know the whole story so don't mind me.Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by MonaLisa26Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Yeah! Exactly! She drove!!! And you couldn’t PAY? Wheeeeew!!! Cheapo!
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I did pay?
This wasn't the first date and it had nothing to do with being cheap.
She offered and I said she could just pay me later, but I didn't press or ask her about it.
Some women start feeling awkward when the guy pays every single time. Some men use that as leverage for sex, rather then being a gentleman.
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IF that's the case then a woman would say that, and offer to pay. Not wait around to see who's gonna grab the bill first.
Most women just think of it as being a gentleman when a guy pays or just being a traditional value man.
But you using this as a reason to have her pay half isn't gonna get you far with women.
Have the conversation upfront to see what type of man they date financially. There are some women who are fine with paying, and there are some where it's a dealbreaker.
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It depends on the woman.
Some have no issue with it and then some fight you tooth and nail to pay.
Like I already said, the total was about $ 100 for the whole night so she politely wanted to pay her end. Considering she didn't finish her food either and complained about the drink.
The dealbreaker of paying happens on the first date. I highly doubt that was her logic of not wanting to continue. It's tied into the social media issue and over-thinking.click to expand
But I like that she cut things off almost immediately instead of stringing you along, so kudos for that.
Posted by aquarius09I only dated one other Virgo Venus. Very reserved, a bit dull but a fair person. The other Virgos I know have different placements. Although they all share the same characteristics of over-thinking entirely too much and scrutinizing every detail. Wanting perfection.Posted by Som
I know a man with Virgo Mars who calls himself the most miserable person in the world, meaning by this endless discontentment about himself and excessive demands on others. @LuckyLibra7Posted by LuckyLibra7
Isn't Virgo Mars a pleaser? Seeking to satisfy their partner through actions, but not expressing it verbally?
Virgo's aren't that complicated IMO. All that i've dealt with are a bit critical and rigid. But they would seek to discuss the problem if they had one.
This chick is the first Virgo I've dealt with that completely mission aborted and shot herself in the foot so soon.
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Interesting you say that. All Venus in Virgo people I have met are miserable and depressed. Whether they are clinically depressed is a separate matter. My Venus and mars in Virgo said the same things you mentioned. He was always putting himself and others down. In the same vein, as contradictory as this is, he was also pretty uppity and felt he was too good for women he previously slept with and talked down about others. Hypocrite to his core.
My sister in law is also Venus and mars in Virgo and is perennially miserable. Always shows up to family events with a frown and makes no effort to socialize. We let her be and don’t entertain her misery.
My aunt is triple Virgo and totally miserable.
I have a friend with the placements of OPs dates and while she’s super miserable about being single, it doesn’t stop her from self-sabotaging her dates.click to expand
I do have a friend with a Virgo Venus/Mars and she's upbeat when things go her way. If things are going on she can't control then she pulls the "woe is me" card. She wanted to date but I declined as she was draining me and always judging the most irrelevant things.
Posted by saggurl88I don't think that would have worked with me. I don't do a lot of idle chat on the phone, and I like to get to the point and make plans.Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by MonaLisa26Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Yeah! Exactly! She drove!!! And you couldn’t PAY? Wheeeeew!!! Cheapo!
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I did pay?
This wasn't the first date and it had nothing to do with being cheap.
She offered and I said she could just pay me later, but I didn't press or ask her about it.
Some women start feeling awkward when the guy pays every single time. Some men use that as leverage for sex, rather then being a gentleman.
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IF that's the case then a woman would say that, and offer to pay. Not wait around to see who's gonna grab the bill first.
Most women just think of it as being a gentleman when a guy pays or just being a traditional value man.
But you using this as a reason to have her pay half isn't gonna get you far with women.
Have the conversation upfront to see what type of man they date financially. There are some women who are fine with paying, and there are some where it's a dealbreaker.
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It depends on the woman.
Some have no issue with it and then some fight you tooth and nail to pay.
Like I already said, the total was about $ 100 for the whole night so she politely wanted to pay her end. Considering she didn't finish her food either and complained about the drink.
The dealbreaker of paying happens on the first date. I highly doubt that was her logic of not wanting to continue. It's tied into the social media issue and over-thinking.
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I'm giving you a hard time about it, but don't know the whole story so don't mind me.
But I like that she cut things off almost immediately instead of stringing you along, so kudos for that.click to expand
She understood and got to the point relatively soon.
Posted by LuckyLibra7Some women are entitled or plain double standard stupid. I think initial dates, especially in this day and age where all parties are holding a job and want equality, should pay for their own part since it’s to the benefit of both to meet up and get to know each other. Why should men be paying for initial dates when women are also benefiting from getting to know the person. You should have split the bill. Personally, I find it off putting that she didn’t pay the money afterwards like you said she could. I find this standard Venus Virgo cheapness. Venus in Virgo is known for being a miser. Next time split the bill upfront and don’t feel bad about it.Posted by slugPosted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.
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Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
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It is because if y'all split it, you don't know if she'll be offended.
Ah, it was like an hour and 30. It is far, but she didn't seem like she had a lot of emotional baggage. Claimed to have been to therapy and had a 7-year relationship previously, no kids.
So, I thought why not?
I had a cappy, aqua and her. Now I'm back to square one
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Women do not get offended when a man pays lol Is that what you tell yourself?
I don't know how old you are, but I would've done the same thing.
I'm not driving 2 hours just to split the bill of a date you picked and planned.
I can see having the conversation ahead of time, but on the spot and now I'm paying half? NOPE!
It makes that drive extra long on the way back home, cause I would be irritated.
I think it was her Aries moon that made this quick decision, not her Venus.
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I feel like this is a little harsh 😂
He drove 2 hours for the first date and paid. Paid for the axe throwing on the second date and was going to pay for the meal too but she got her card out and offered. So he said she can pay him later, he never asked for it and she never paid it.. so he still paid for the meal. 😂
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Lmao they're completely ignoring all of that. Then called me a cheap ass LMAOOOclick to expand
It most likely had nothing to do with the split check. She just wasn't feeling you and said so. Whether it was lack of chemistry in the kiss or something else. Take the L and move on. Plenty of others out there.
I wanted to edit my post, but you replied faster. I meant that he is self-dissatisfied, if the word "satisfied" does not mean anything sexual, I struggle with this word, it is my poor English, sorry. He is sort of perfectionist--he fixes on his imperfection and imperfections of others all the time. He is over-critical to others and himself. He is also mean with his body--he is prone to overweight, but hates to be fat, so he struggles with weight all the time and has anorexia nervosa. @aquarius09
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Interesting you say that. All Venus in Virgo people I have met are miserable and depressed. Whether they are clinically depressed is a separate matter. My Venus and mars in Virgo said the same things you mentioned. He was always putting himself and others down. In the same vein, as contradictory as this is, he was also pretty uppity and felt he was too good for women he previously slept with and talked down about others. Hypocrite to his core.
My sister in law is also Venus and mars in Virgo and is perennially miserable. Always shows up to family events with a frown and makes no effort to socialize. We let her be and don’t entertain her misery.
My aunt is triple Virgo and totally miserable.
I have a friend with the placements of OPs dates and while she’s super miserable about being single, it doesn’t stop her from self-sabotaging her dates.
Posted by slugI was being honest lol. But I agree.. bruised ego and then probably went into a downward spiral of criticism for herself and mePosted by saggurl88Posted by slugPosted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
She drove 2 hours in traffic to meet you, with gas prices the way they are, just to be told she would be splitting the bill.
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lol Axe throwing was $ 60 and the food came to $ 50.
She looked at the bill and offered.
It wasn't uneven as I drove to see her once also.
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Oh ok lol I see where you're coming from then.
I know dating is harder on men financially. Hopefully you find someone interesting closer to home.
2 hours is a long way to drive.
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It is because if y'all split it, you don't know if she'll be offended.
Ah, it was like an hour and 30. It is far, but she didn't seem like she had a lot of emotional baggage. Claimed to have been to therapy and had a 7-year relationship previously, no kids.
So, I thought why not?
I had a cappy, aqua and her. Now I'm back to square one
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Women do not get offended when a man pays lol Is that what you tell yourself?
I don't know how old you are, but I would've done the same thing.
I'm not driving 2 hours just to split the bill of a date you picked and planned.
I can see having the conversation ahead of time, but on the spot and now I'm paying half? NOPE!
It makes that drive extra long on the way back home, cause I would be irritated.
I think it was her Aries moon that made this quick decision, not her Venus.
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I feel like this is a little harsh 😂
He drove 2 hours for the first date and paid. Paid for the axe throwing on the second date and was going to pay for the meal too but she got her card out and offered. So he said she can pay him later, he never asked for it and she never paid it.. so he still paid for the meal. 😂
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You're a Virgo with an Aries moon right? What are your thoughts about the date?
I know Virgo women usually like being treated like princesses, they prefer the princess treatment, IMO.
Oops NVM- You're the opposite Aries sun Virgo moon. I got confused for a sec
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Aries Virgo moon. By the sounds of it she grilled him, he didn't pass. Maybe something to do with the social media, probably over thought it. She asked him if he'd looked her up and he said no. 😂click to expand
Posted by Midnite_Riser
Understand that Venus in Virgo people (and I do have this placement as well) tend to be VEEEEEEEERY picky. We have particular tastes when it comes to food, style , tv shows/movies we like, irks, turn ons and people who we are attracted to. We can also be very stubborn about it as well. My guess is she didn't want to upset you so she went along with what you bought her. Understand that a Venus in Virgo person WANTS to feel WANTED. They want you to SHOW them that you want them. You have to make the move dude, can't be passive-aggressive. Too many guys are like that nowadays. Atleast I know what I want.
What do you mean went along with what I brought her?
She picked the food/drink and then complained lol.
I made the move and kissed her. My theory is that she suffered a blow to the ego after the social media comment. I really hadn’t looked her up and she has a podcast so she probably felt offended.
I suppose it was just a difference of approach. I have your number and I’ve met you. I don’t feel the need to dig and create stress for myself. We’re not at the altar for Christ sake.
Too much overthinking for the first few dates. If we’re discussing exclusively, then absolutely. We need transparency and to have each other’s information on different platforms. She made a snarky comment about not being able to find me when she could’ve just asked. But she probably created imaginary scenarios which is why she declined to exchange.
Dating is rough for Venus virgos lol. If we’re being honest here, she was hell bent of finding an issue with me. So I think she settled on the social media one. But if she would have asked normally, I wouldn’t have used a smart ass comeback.
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You failed the interview.
Posted by Midnite_RiserProbably too much Air in my chart and that Aqua moon is a b#tch. I always lure them in, then they meet the ice wall aqua moon has created lmaooo
Pull up her chart and yours.
Her - 27F .. I dont know her rising.
Sun - Virgo
Moon-Aries
Mercury-Libra
Venus-Virgo
Mars-Scorpio
Jupiter-Sagg
Saturn-Pisces
Uranus-Cappy
Neptune-Cappy
Pluto-Scorpio
Mine - 29M
Rising-Virgo
Sun - Libra
Moon-Aqua
Mercury-Scorpio
Venus-Libra
Mars-Scorpio
Jupiter-Libra
Saturn-Aqua
Uranus-Cappy
Neptune-Cappy
Pluto-Scorpio
Posted by LuckyLibra7She got to know you and a feel for you.
What's up with Virgo Venus? The one I was dealing with had a cold approach and was super reserved the entire time.
Her - Virgo Sun, Aries moon, Virgo Venus
So anyway, we had our second date Sunday. She drove down from Orlando and everything went well. I planned for us to go axe throwing. After we finish, I asked if she was hungry to which she replied yes. We went to a bar down the street that I frequent often as they do karaoke.
She ordered a sweet/fruity drink she did not end up liking. Of course, she plays it off and does not want to make a fuss. I end up talking to the waiter and she takes the drink off the tab and was super cool about everything. Finally, the guys performing music show up and I crack a couple jokes about their performance to which she laughs.
The waiter brings the bill and it's sitting on the table for 10 mins or so. I finally reach for it, and she creates an awkward moment and decides to pull out her card now. She offers to pay for her half, and I tell her she can cash app me. Shortly after this she jokingly (insecurely) mentions how she could not find me on social media. I kept it light and said we can exchange information I'm not married or anything in a jokingly way.
She didn't find it that funny and did not offer her information. I thought it was strange that she didn't just ask me, but tried to find information without saying anything. She then asked if I looked her social media up and I said no. After this, we got into a conversation about if she was approached, what would she give out, number or Instagram.
At this point, I wasn't sure of her interest so I went ahead and kissed her at the end of the date and she did not reject it, but she didn't stick around. She reaches out to let me know she made it home and I reached out to her last night seeing how she was doing.
She waits to respond until this morning and is a bit dry. After 3-4 messages, I went ahead and asked her for her social media and she abruptly responds that "this isn't going to work, thanks for your time."
Super weird, seeing as both dates she took the time to compliment me quite often and she was genuinely more curious with background and emotional stability questions rather then asking me what my instagram is..
Interview vibe the entire time and I called her out on it. She apologized and said she hosts a podcast and it's natural for her. She had a checklist, but what i'm confused about is her sudden change of behavior.
Was it the kiss? Or she was upset about the social media issue. I offered it to her, so I don't see what the problem is.
You are not what she is looking for nor do you have any real chemistry.
Thank her for her honesty and move on as well.
If financial burden of dating is a issue...change the kind of dates to better reflect your finances OR activities that you are genuinely interested in so it doesn't matter.
The purpose of going out with someone is for entertainment and getting to know them.
Secondly, "traditionally", Dates on the men's end, is a display of their life style .
Is your life style dropping $ 100 at bars?
Combining the 2 concepts "dates" should reflect you and in a environment that is comfortable to your date to find out more about them.
For example, my best dates have been window shopping. Mall and Down Town shops. Small Town mind you, a lot of boutiques and a variety of shops.
Learned a lot about them and vis versa. A lot of shared stories, a window in to their tastes, which shops they wanted to go into, their food choices, and a bunch of other things. All inspired and prompted by which shops she or I wanted to look at. Honestly it works so well it's almost a cheat😁
The purpose of going out with someone is for entertainment and getting to know them.
Secondly, "traditionally", Dates on the men's end, is a display of their life style .
Is your life style dropping $ 100 at bars?
Combining the 2 concepts "dates" should reflect you and in a environment that is comfortable to your date to find out more about them.
For example, my best dates have been window shopping. Mall and Down Town shops. Small Town mind you, a lot of boutiques and a variety of shops.
Learned a lot about them and vis versa. A lot of shared stories, a window in to their tastes, which shops they wanted to go into, their food choices, and a bunch of other things. All inspired and prompted by which shops she or I wanted to look at. Honestly it works so well it's almost a cheat😁
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If financial burden of dating is a issue...change the kind of dates to better reflect your finances OR activities that you are genuinely interested in so it doesn't matter.
The purpose of going out with someone is for entertainment and getting to know them.
It was just a general statement regarding the burden being placed on the man, and then the woman dips when she feels like it. We can throw divorce in this situation too. She can take it all if she wants.
Yes, the purpose of dating is to get to know someone. BUT, not in an interview setting. Nobody needs to "qualify" just to develop romantic interests. Attraction is not a choice, and I don't need to ask you a million questions to figure out if I like you. What determines relationship compatibility is values and attraction. If the person doesn't value or have integrity, you'll never be able to have a healthy relationship with them. Get my point?
Her questions the past 3 weeks were very thorough and formal. It sounds good on paper, but this creates a misresable experience for the other person regardless of their sign.
With her schedule and living situation, she has no business trying to date if we're getting technical. I do appreciate her squeezing me into her rigid schedule. But she mentioned her family constantly criticizes her because she is still by herself, no kids and she is non-traditional.
I wish her the best though and I hope she actually learns to enjoy herself on a date and not create unnecessary pressure for herself or others.
That damn Virgo Venus.
Posted by LuckyLibra7
What's up with Virgo Venus? The one I was dealing with had a cold approach and was super reserved the entire time.
Her - Virgo Sun, Aries moon, Virgo Venus
So anyway, we had our second date Sunday. She drove down from Orlando and everything went well. I planned for us to go axe throwing. After we finish, I asked if she was hungry to which she replied yes. We went to a bar down the street that I frequent often as they do karaoke.
She ordered a sweet/fruity drink she did not end up liking. Of course, she plays it off and does not want to make a fuss. I end up talking to the waiter and she takes the drink off the tab and was super cool about everything. Finally, the guys performing music show up and I crack a couple jokes about their performance to which she laughs.
The waiter brings the bill and it's sitting on the table for 10 mins or so. I finally reach for it, and she creates an awkward moment and decides to pull out her card now. She offers to pay for her half, and I tell her she can cash app me. Shortly after this she jokingly (insecurely) mentions how she could not find me on social media. I kept it light and said we can exchange information I'm not married or anything in a jokingly way.
She didn't find it that funny and did not offer her information. I thought it was strange that she didn't just ask me, but tried to find information without saying anything. She then asked if I looked her social media up and I said no. After this, we got into a conversation about if she was approached, what would she give out, number or Instagram.
At this point, I wasn't sure of her interest so I went ahead and kissed her at the end of the date and she did not reject it, but she didn't stick around. She reaches out to let me know she made it home and I reached out to her last night seeing how she was doing.
She waits to respond until this morning and is a bit dry. After 3-4 messages, I went ahead and asked her for her social media and she abruptly responds that "this isn't going to work, thanks for your time."
Super weird, seeing as both dates she took the time to compliment me quite often and she was genuinely more curious with background and emotional stability questions rather then asking me what my instagram is..
Interview vibe the entire time and I called her out on it. She apologized and said she hosts a podcast and it's natural for her. She had a checklist, but what i'm confused about is her sudden change of behavior.
Was it the kiss? Or she was upset about the social media issue. I offered it to her, so I don't see what the problem is.
You didn’t offer to pay for the date .
When she offered half you didn’t say no I’ll cover it.
She may be conservative
Posted by LuckyLibra7Maybe she’s had a stalker in the past n triggeredPosted by saggurl88Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by MonaLisa26Posted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Yeah! Exactly! She drove!!! And you couldn’t PAY? Wheeeeew!!! Cheapo!
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I did pay?
This wasn't the first date and it had nothing to do with being cheap.
She offered and I said she could just pay me later, but I didn't press or ask her about it.
Some women start feeling awkward when the guy pays every single time. Some men use that as leverage for sex, rather then being a gentleman.
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IF that's the case then a woman would say that, and offer to pay. Not wait around to see who's gonna grab the bill first.
Most women just think of it as being a gentleman when a guy pays or just being a traditional value man.
But you using this as a reason to have her pay half isn't gonna get you far with women.
Have the conversation upfront to see what type of man they date financially. There are some women who are fine with paying, and there are some where it's a dealbreaker.
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It depends on the woman.
Some have no issue with it and then some fight you tooth and nail to pay.
Like I already said, the total was about $ 100 for the whole night so she politely wanted to pay her end. Considering she didn't finish her food either and complained about the drink.
The dealbreaker of paying happens on the first date. I highly doubt that was her logic of not wanting to continue. It's tied into the social media issue and over-thinking.click to expand
These things aren’t worthy of racking your brain you probably did nothing wrong
Don’t take personal and move on
Could be she’s realistic n 2 hours is too much for her
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Joined: Mar 16, 2023 · Topics: 2 · Posts: 2
so, for the past couple of months, i kept seeing stuff on social media about transgender/lgbtq education. teaching little kids in kindergarten or elementary schools about transgender/lgbtq stuff and i dunno i just felt a bit of a discomfort/unsettling fee
@serenidad
Joined: Mar 02, 2022 · Topics: 21 · Posts: 1275
So I started working at a new job and everything is nice except this girl who is 7 years younger than me and very hostile towards me. She takes every chance she can to prove me wrong and be verbally aggressive towards me. My Libra Ascendant makes me avoid
@GenericUsername
Joined: Nov 18, 2021 · Topics: 12 · Posts: 923
Say nine consecutive times. Make the sign of the cross every time you say the prayer. Publish Immediately.
O Great Passion
O Deep Wounds
O Blood Shed in Abundance
O Meekness
O God of Meekness
O Cruel Death
Have Mercy on Me and Grant my Request, if it b
@jazzymom
Joined: Feb 03, 2016 · Topics: 25 · Posts: 96
Can you please return image upload to topic cover photo.
thank you!
@xxAjuxx
Joined: Jun 02, 2021 · Topics: 34 · Posts: 1100
Long time lurker here, decided to make an account today. M29 - Libra Sun, Aqua Moon, Virgo Rising. 2 stelliums of Libra and Scorpio.
Anyway, short story for yall as I’m still baffled here. I met a F32 Capricorn sun, Sag moon and Aqua Venus online about
@LuckyLibra7
Joined: Mar 13, 2023 · Topics: 14 · Posts: 748
Long time lurker here, decided to make an account today.
M29 - Libra Sun, Aqua Moon, Virgo Rising. 2 stelliums of Libra and Scorpio.
Anyway, short story for yall as I’m still baffled here.
I met a F32 Capricorn sun, Sag moon and Aqua Venus online abo
@LuckyLibra7
Joined: Mar 13, 2023 · Topics: 14 · Posts: 748
I'm a libra sun, Pisces moon, Pisces rising
I'm desperate and hoping for some insight! my Taurus and I have been together for going on 6 years and over the last couple years we've slowly fallen apart... arguments go unresolved, affection happens less
@libragirl37
Joined: Dec 10, 2012 · Topics: 28 · Posts: 347
I am a Leo woman 34, who found a attraction for a Virgo guy 28. I'm not one to judge age so the difference did not bother me. We both work together. He was very cool and laid back and that made me instantly attracted to him. We shared music favorites, ta
@desilove333
Joined: Apr 01, 2017 · Topics: 11 · Posts: 169