Dissed
This topic was created in the Virgo forum by catfish36 on Thursday, August 3, 2006 and has 33 replies.
I have a VGuy friend who lately has been showing himself to be a bit odd lately. We are attracted to one another but nothing physical has happened. Last week he openly flirted with a girl I know in front of me, something he never does. Secondly, he's been staring at me A LOT. Seems like when ever I am around another man he's eyeballing me. I am well aware he's not into anything serious, but I am at the point in my life when I am tired of fooling around. I care for him but I just don't think I have to ability to make room in my heart for him.
I have a friend who went out very casually (about once or twice a month) with her Virgo man for 8 months before he even tried to hold her hand. She finally got drunk one night and attacked him. Now they are engaged to be married. Of course now he is ending up being quite controlling and dominating and verbally abusive. She still to this day always has to make the first move sexually and he makes absolutely no efforts at all in the relationship. He thinks that she is put on this earth just to spoil and serve him. He is very weird and my friend is starting to see it now. Thank Goodness.
My advice is find out very fast what he is all about and if he shows any of these signs. Run away fast.
My advice is find out very fast what he is all about and if he shows any of these signs. Run away fast.
gslove,
I am too old for this. He can never say what's on his mind, he always has to play a fricking song on the jukebox to send me a message. In the begining it was sweet, but now it's silly. Two years later and you still can't tell me how you feel? Every time I am in the bar I feel like my every move is being clocked. Any guy, with the exception of the owner or a very close friend, who shows any interest in me, now doesn't talk to me or isn't allowed back in the bar. It's a stupid power trip. He's the manager, he gets to say who stays and who goes. If I am inside bar, outside the bar, he watches all my movements, who I am talking to. Let's see how he feels when I am gone.
I am too old for this. He can never say what's on his mind, he always has to play a fricking song on the jukebox to send me a message. In the begining it was sweet, but now it's silly. Two years later and you still can't tell me how you feel? Every time I am in the bar I feel like my every move is being clocked. Any guy, with the exception of the owner or a very close friend, who shows any interest in me, now doesn't talk to me or isn't allowed back in the bar. It's a stupid power trip. He's the manager, he gets to say who stays and who goes. If I am inside bar, outside the bar, he watches all my movements, who I am talking to. Let's see how he feels when I am gone.
VGuy is turning 34 next month. Yeah, he has lots of issues. A few months back when his shift ended, he sat alone, smoking his cigarette, staring, staring, put Prince's "The Beautiful Ones" on the jukebox, and stared some more at me as I was talking to a buddy of mine whose part owner. Unless, it's all one big show, and he wants me to think it means something when it doesn't. It's so frustrating because he does have a good heart, but his alcoholism is a big problem.
I thought about telling him I wouldn't be around much. The scene is too depressing, he's not the best influence on me as he hates to drink alone. He knows I've changed lately, I am less visible and less communicative. My plan is only to return to drop of a birthday present but i will be scarce up until then.
I thought about telling him I wouldn't be around much. The scene is too depressing, he's not the best influence on me as he hates to drink alone. He knows I've changed lately, I am less visible and less communicative. My plan is only to return to drop of a birthday present but i will be scarce up until then.
Thanks folks. Believe me, I DO HEAR what ya'll are saying. My drinking has worsened since I've gotten to know him. And he recently admitted to me that his hands have been shaking since he was 30. 30!
30! I was agasht. He's got the freaking DT's already! '-(
And no, I had no intent on trying to reform him Dyr. He's too far gone and would need serious medical intervention.
It's not easy dropping someone you are so connected to. He is the only person I've met you shares so many of the same interests with the same intensity and devotion. Even things which are completely obscure, that you thought only you would like, he likes too. Oh well, thems the brakes. Honestly, it's just not fair sometimes. You meet someone who understands you completely. You read each other minds with such ease. Someone who loves your voice, your smile, the goofy way you laugh, can't stop staring at the way you fill out your sweater, yet you're not compatible. I tell you it SUCKS!
You are so right Strings. If we were involved I probably wouldn't be allowed back in the bar myself. He is controlling, and if I wanted I could be very manipulative. But really, who wants to waste all that energy structuring a relationship lacking in trust?
And no, I had no intent on trying to reform him Dyr. He's too far gone and would need serious medical intervention.
It's not easy dropping someone you are so connected to. He is the only person I've met you shares so many of the same interests with the same intensity and devotion. Even things which are completely obscure, that you thought only you would like, he likes too. Oh well, thems the brakes. Honestly, it's just not fair sometimes. You meet someone who understands you completely. You read each other minds with such ease. Someone who loves your voice, your smile, the goofy way you laugh, can't stop staring at the way you fill out your sweater, yet you're not compatible. I tell you it SUCKS!
You are so right Strings. If we were involved I probably wouldn't be allowed back in the bar myself. He is controlling, and if I wanted I could be very manipulative. But really, who wants to waste all that energy structuring a relationship lacking in trust?
Catfish ......
So you don't want to be with this virgo man just because he has a few problems ??? Well, in my opinion, no man's perfect. If he is manipulative and you know ... then don't let him control you. If he can't control you then I think he will have more admiration for you as well. And that's a good thing.
Hey, I don't know the whole situation and I haven't read the whole post but I do think that the guy may need a little support in order to get better. he needs to help himself but tiny bit of support wouldn't hurt ....
So you don't want to be with this virgo man just because he has a few problems ??? Well, in my opinion, no man's perfect. If he is manipulative and you know ... then don't let him control you. If he can't control you then I think he will have more admiration for you as well. And that's a good thing.
Hey, I don't know the whole situation and I haven't read the whole post but I do think that the guy may need a little support in order to get better. he needs to help himself but tiny bit of support wouldn't hurt ....
Cappysweetie,
There is a lot more going on and I do try to respect his privacy. I don't mean to sound insensitive to his problems and needs. As I just said above, it's not easy dropping someone. I have supported him; I've come out to his shows and seen him perform. One was one the bitterest, most frigid night in the entire year this year on a Sat. at Midnight. And other stuff too. Lots of other stuff. But, I am really tired of getting blown off when I need to talk seriously to him. He hates when I point out what's wrong. He always gives me the money back I left for his tip and walks away. I don't raise my voice, or get angry. I try to be rather low-key about it all. I hate being interrupted when I try to make a point. He can't even deal with me unless he's drunk. It's hard to work sh*t out when one or both of you have had too much to drink, and you can't remember what f8cked up or wonderful thing you said the night before. The situation is unhealthy for me, and I can allow him to bring me down with him. We drank so much two Fridays ago I can't even remember saying goodbye to him. I know he came up to me, gave me hug, and said something. Damned if I even remember what is was. It's no good. My speed was a few beers after work on a Thurs or Fri. And the occasional glass of wine with dinner. At this rate, I'll be a full-blown alcoholic, just like him, before the year is out.
There is a lot more going on and I do try to respect his privacy. I don't mean to sound insensitive to his problems and needs. As I just said above, it's not easy dropping someone. I have supported him; I've come out to his shows and seen him perform. One was one the bitterest, most frigid night in the entire year this year on a Sat. at Midnight. And other stuff too. Lots of other stuff. But, I am really tired of getting blown off when I need to talk seriously to him. He hates when I point out what's wrong. He always gives me the money back I left for his tip and walks away. I don't raise my voice, or get angry. I try to be rather low-key about it all. I hate being interrupted when I try to make a point. He can't even deal with me unless he's drunk. It's hard to work sh*t out when one or both of you have had too much to drink, and you can't remember what f8cked up or wonderful thing you said the night before. The situation is unhealthy for me, and I can allow him to bring me down with him. We drank so much two Fridays ago I can't even remember saying goodbye to him. I know he came up to me, gave me hug, and said something. Damned if I even remember what is was. It's no good. My speed was a few beers after work on a Thurs or Fri. And the occasional glass of wine with dinner. At this rate, I'll be a full-blown alcoholic, just like him, before the year is out.
Oops. Freudian slip - CANNOT ALLOW HIM TO BRING ME DOWN.
WOW! Okay ... well my opinion has changed. If he's emotionally tearing you apart then you need to leave him alone. I was involved with two men who really drained me ... the scorpio didn't care what I thought about anything and the cancer leaned on me everytime there was an issue he couldn't deal with ... but it was easy for him to party and have a good time with his friends.
I only agree to supprt those who are receptive and who will not "knock" against you when you are sincerely trying to help them.
Please don't drink on his account. In oreder to live him alone you need to keep yourself together. If you want to lieve him alone then you have to be sane to do so
I only agree to supprt those who are receptive and who will not "knock" against you when you are sincerely trying to help them.
Please don't drink on his account. In oreder to live him alone you need to keep yourself together. If you want to lieve him alone then you have to be sane to do so
.... my goodness
hahaha, I did on on the cappy board already 
it*
SagiTAURies,
If I say YES, will you stop posting like a maniac?! Chill. And don't me a wench you for God sakes. I HEAR YOU!
If I say YES, will you stop posting like a maniac?! Chill. And don't me a wench you for God sakes. I HEAR YOU!
Awwwww ST
Yes you all have feelings. I just wonder why cappy females and those bull males can never make a relationship work.
For some reason the taurus always seems to chase the cappy away ... seem with virgos
For some reason the taurus always seems to chase the cappy away ... seem with virgos
same* Jeezzz, I'mm tired tonight!
How did you know ???
Well I do know my stuff My favorite is the tommy -- takes care of business
LOL!!!!
Well I do know my stuff
My favorite is the tommy -- takes care of business LOL!!!!
If memory serves me correctly, this man has never asked you out, has never wanted to do anything with you . . . you have always gone to the bar to see him . . for months.
Catfish, think about that.
I realize that since your Venus is in Aries, it's the hunt, the chase that is thrilling to you when you see a potential companion and you will put forth every effort to chase him . . . but, it's been months, and months, and months . . . prbably close to a year and still . . . he won't ask you out. The horse is dead . . quit beating it.
When you do show up at the bar - AGAIN - he's doing his usual . . getting drunk. Has it ever crossed your mind that he's getting shit-faced drunk when you show up because it's the only way he can deal wiht it?
I know I would. And, that doesn't mean you personally. But, if this woman kept coming back, trying to get me to open up and spill my feelings when I wasn't interested (which, he ISN'T interested, or he would have WANTED to have a relationship outside the bar), but, here she comes anyway, and there's no place to escape from her because it's my place of employment . . I'd get drunk too.
You have it in your mind that he's always looking at you, eyeballing you, liking the way you fill out your sweater, months ago you said something about how he likes your cooking, all kinds of stuff . . . that he isn't saying . . . he's getting drunk.
You say, that when you try and pressure him into talking about feelings, he walks away and gives you money back. Are you so stuck within yourself and needing attention that you can't see . . . he wants to you go.
In your own words, you said, "He can't even deal with me unless he's drunk"
Catfish, think about that.
I realize that since your Venus is in Aries, it's the hunt, the chase that is thrilling to you when you see a potential companion and you will put forth every effort to chase him . . . but, it's been months, and months, and months . . . prbably close to a year and still . . . he won't ask you out. The horse is dead . . quit beating it.
When you do show up at the bar - AGAIN - he's doing his usual . . getting drunk. Has it ever crossed your mind that he's getting shit-faced drunk when you show up because it's the only way he can deal wiht it?
I know I would. And, that doesn't mean you personally. But, if this woman kept coming back, trying to get me to open up and spill my feelings when I wasn't interested (which, he ISN'T interested, or he would have WANTED to have a relationship outside the bar), but, here she comes anyway, and there's no place to escape from her because it's my place of employment . . I'd get drunk too.
You have it in your mind that he's always looking at you, eyeballing you, liking the way you fill out your sweater, months ago you said something about how he likes your cooking, all kinds of stuff . . . that he isn't saying . . . he's getting drunk.
You say, that when you try and pressure him into talking about feelings, he walks away and gives you money back. Are you so stuck within yourself and needing attention that you can't see . . . he wants to you go.
In your own words, you said, "He can't even deal with me unless he's drunk"
I'm not trying to be mean and you can get mad at me if you want . . but, it's the truth.
If this man had any intentions of wanting to develop a relationship with you, he would have a long time ago - outside of the bar.
Still . . you continue to go there and pester, try to get him to want you . . he doesn't, Cat. Let it go and move on.
He has to get shit-faced drunk whenever you are around to deal with you. I mean, my God, what has to happen for you to realize that this is a one-way attraction?
If this man had any intentions of wanting to develop a relationship with you, he would have a long time ago - outside of the bar.
Still . . you continue to go there and pester, try to get him to want you . . he doesn't, Cat. Let it go and move on.
He has to get shit-faced drunk whenever you are around to deal with you. I mean, my God, what has to happen for you to realize that this is a one-way attraction?
Are you woman, or are you mouse?
Are you strong, or are you weak?
I remember you saying these exact same things, months ago, about this same man and now . . today, he still doesn't want to go out with you. I think I remember you saying before that he doesn't phone you.
You said that he blows you off . . . Catfish, he frigging blows you off and has been for nearly a year and still . . . you throw yourself at him. My God, grow some dignity and leave him alone.
Catfish, what the hell are doing to yourself? Why are you allowing yourself to sink further into this fantasy?
It's all in your head. Walk away.
Are you strong, or are you weak?
I remember you saying these exact same things, months ago, about this same man and now . . today, he still doesn't want to go out with you. I think I remember you saying before that he doesn't phone you.
You said that he blows you off . . . Catfish, he frigging blows you off and has been for nearly a year and still . . . you throw yourself at him. My God, grow some dignity and leave him alone.
Catfish, what the hell are doing to yourself? Why are you allowing yourself to sink further into this fantasy?
It's all in your head. Walk away.
Here you are again P-Devil. Not in possession of all the facts and once again act as if you're a complete authority on the situation. You launch into these ridiculous diatribes based on some twisted sense of all-knowingness when you don't have a freaking clue. You're sense of superiority must be exhausting.
I've never pressured him to open up. I've never pressured him to do anything. I mentioned being low-key about it. We have gone out outside of the bar to a few concerts. VGuy doesn't ask women out. He caught his last girlfriend in bed with another guy and he's never been the same since with regards to women. He's not gonna to put himself out there anytime soon. I do know when someone is staring at me and am not under any illusions as to what is happening around me. He's been interested in me for a while but his addictions are more than I care to deal with. One of our mutual friend lives in Paris now, but Jeremy let me know from the very beginning that VGuy was interested in me but I wasn't interested at the time. Two of his ex-roommates are now buddies of mine. That wouldn't be the case if VGuy had bad things to say about me.
We had a easy, fun relationship until someone else got involved and caused trouble between us. If you claim as you do to have read about my situation for months then you would know that. No one has asked for your stupid opinions so if you're sick of reading about my situation then bugger off!
If you read what I posted, and clearly you didn't, the guy has had the shakes since he was 30! So, getting drunk has been a part of his routine loooooooooooong before I came into the picutre. He can't function unless his lit up. So, get your head out of your ass and pay attention! If you're going to respond; and I knew you would because you can't help yourself when you find an opportunity to sh*t on any women who cares for Virgo guy, get with the program. You've treated AriesLovesVirgo in the same condescending manner so I would expect nothing less in your response to me. Gee, I bet the next thing you're going to accuse me of is having another IP address and b
So, what if I said it months ago. You type the same ole' swill repeatedly without hearing a peep from me.
Do you me favor and don't respond to me. You are so negative and destructive. It's sickening how you're everywhere making people, especially woman, feel like crap when it comes to their relationship. I am not going to bother read your crap anymore.
I've never pressured him to open up. I've never pressured him to do anything. I mentioned being low-key about it. We have gone out outside of the bar to a few concerts. VGuy doesn't ask women out. He caught his last girlfriend in bed with another guy and he's never been the same since with regards to women. He's not gonna to put himself out there anytime soon. I do know when someone is staring at me and am not under any illusions as to what is happening around me. He's been interested in me for a while but his addictions are more than I care to deal with. One of our mutual friend lives in Paris now, but Jeremy let me know from the very beginning that VGuy was interested in me but I wasn't interested at the time. Two of his ex-roommates are now buddies of mine. That wouldn't be the case if VGuy had bad things to say about me.
We had a easy, fun relationship until someone else got involved and caused trouble between us. If you claim as you do to have read about my situation for months then you would know that. No one has asked for your stupid opinions so if you're sick of reading about my situation then bugger off!
If you read what I posted, and clearly you didn't, the guy has had the shakes since he was 30! So, getting drunk has been a part of his routine loooooooooooong before I came into the picutre. He can't function unless his lit up. So, get your head out of your ass and pay attention! If you're going to respond; and I knew you would because you can't help yourself when you find an opportunity to sh*t on any women who cares for Virgo guy, get with the program. You've treated AriesLovesVirgo in the same condescending manner so I would expect nothing less in your response to me. Gee, I bet the next thing you're going to accuse me of is having another IP address and b
So, what if I said it months ago. You type the same ole' swill repeatedly without hearing a peep from me.
Do you me favor and don't respond to me. You are so negative and destructive. It's sickening how you're everywhere making people, especially woman, feel like crap when it comes to their relationship. I am not going to bother read your crap anymore.
Ohh I love when a FISH fighting another FISH on the Virgo forum..
LMAO
LMAO
Hey Qbone. P-whatever, has posted a Danger thread concerning you. Should I fear your presense? Run, hide may be?
yeah p-angel's annoying. fuckin fish. she gets it from sagittauries i think. what a fuckin bastard turning son of a bitch.
These be your words, luv. Take them for what they mean, instead of what's in your fantasy land.
"I am really tired of getting blown off when I need to talk seriously to him."
"He hates when I point out what's wrong. He always gives me the money back I left for his tip and walks away."
"I hate being interrupted when I try to make a point. He can't even deal with me unless he's drunk"
Excuse me, then . . it's not months, and months, and months . . rather 2 years and you are still chasing a dead horse.
Hello . . . is ANYBODY in there?
"I am really tired of getting blown off when I need to talk seriously to him."
"He hates when I point out what's wrong. He always gives me the money back I left for his tip and walks away."
"I hate being interrupted when I try to make a point. He can't even deal with me unless he's drunk"
Excuse me, then . . it's not months, and months, and months . . rather 2 years and you are still chasing a dead horse.
Hello . . . is ANYBODY in there?
Message posted by: catfish36 on 8/3/2006 11:33:51 AM
he put Prince's "The Beautiful Ones" on the jukebox, and stared . . . and he wants me to think it means something . . . when it doesn't.
So, if it doesn't mean anything to you, then why the hell are you still bitching about it?
Get a grip on yourself, you're living in fantasy land . . one side of your mouth says you care about him and want to be with him, then the other side says you don't care.
You want to be taken seriously and that you have a clear and sound brain? Then wake up, come down from the clouds and take a look at YOURSELF.
he put Prince's "The Beautiful Ones" on the jukebox, and stared . . . and he wants me to think it means something . . . when it doesn't.
So, if it doesn't mean anything to you, then why the hell are you still bitching about it?
Get a grip on yourself, you're living in fantasy land . . one side of your mouth says you care about him and want to be with him, then the other side says you don't care.
You want to be taken seriously and that you have a clear and sound brain? Then wake up, come down from the clouds and take a look at YOURSELF.
Let's say for a moment that he does still have an interest in you and tries to show you by:
he put Prince's "The Beautiful Ones" on the jukebox, and stared . . . and he wants me to think it means something . . . when it doesn't.
he put Prince's "The Beautiful Ones" on the jukebox, and stared . . . and he wants me to think it means something . . . when it doesn't.
Let's say for a moment that he does still have an interest in you and tries to show you by:
"he put Prince's "The Beautiful Ones" on the jukebox, and stared . . . and he wants me to think it means something"
What's in your mind: ". . . when it doesn't."
You've no understanding of the Virgo in the least bit. You refuse to believe that they have any redeeming qualities and you, therefore thwart your own self by disregarding any intentions he might have.
Fix the problem with you thinking that your mother is manipulative BECAUSE she is Virgo and you might be able to see them in a different light. Your opinion of a Virgo is horrible, then you can't understand why this one doesn't want to share his life with you.
You have a serious Virgo issue that stems from your childhood . . it's not this particular man's fault.
"he put Prince's "The Beautiful Ones" on the jukebox, and stared . . . and he wants me to think it means something"
What's in your mind: ". . . when it doesn't."
You've no understanding of the Virgo in the least bit. You refuse to believe that they have any redeeming qualities and you, therefore thwart your own self by disregarding any intentions he might have.
Fix the problem with you thinking that your mother is manipulative BECAUSE she is Virgo and you might be able to see them in a different light. Your opinion of a Virgo is horrible, then you can't understand why this one doesn't want to share his life with you.
You have a serious Virgo issue that stems from your childhood . . it's not this particular man's fault.
As promised, I haven't read your stinking posts but, since you always post in 3s when you are making a pointless point, it can only mean one thing; you have an AXE to grind today and mine seems to be the most convenient ass at the moment.
You remind me of Robert Duvall in "Apocalypse Now" when he tosses out playing cards at random over the dead bodies on the ground. You don't care whose corpse it is laying there, you'll dish out your own personal sense of dominion after it's all said and done. Everybody's dead, but what do I care? You can still toss cards and feel superior over the fallen. As you if you really conquered somebody.
You remind me of Robert Duvall in "Apocalypse Now" when he tosses out playing cards at random over the dead bodies on the ground. You don't care whose corpse it is laying there, you'll dish out your own personal sense of dominion after it's all said and done. Everybody's dead, but what do I care? You can still toss cards and feel superior over the fallen. As you if you really conquered somebody.
I only feel the need to grind asses when they are being stupid.
Stop being stupid, and I'll leave you alone.
* There's seems to be an echo in here . . I've heard those words before.
Stop being stupid, and I'll leave you alone.
* There's seems to be an echo in here . . I've heard those words before.
Some people feel the need to make EVERY forum and topic their own personal platform. In the words of GreatBull "okay, first of all, P-angel, you talk too much, take that anyway you want". Yeah, I agree GB.
God, it must be soooooooooooooooo difficult being right all the time. How does she does it? Dear God, make me a bird, so I can fly, far far away from here.
God, it must be soooooooooooooooo difficult being right all the time. How does she does it? Dear God, make me a bird, so I can fly, far far away from here.
Maybe she's the type that gets power online, but knows in REAL-LIFE; she's just a little fish in a big pond; huh, real life must frighten you; behind a screen idolly typing things you lack the BREASTS to say in public, or to someone; types like you don't even exist in reality, so I hope you remain content behind your window of illusion fish, god knows the world would be better if you'd stay behind it not becuase no one can take it becuase truth be told, you really aren't saying much, just talking loud; first with you we get on as if we have a common goal, then you throw me for a loop! Why don't you take a tid-bit of your OWN SELF-RIGHTEOUS, OMNICIENT ADVICE, AND STOP SPITTING IT ALL OVER THE WORLD, WHEN THE WORLD DOSEN'T EVEN ASK YOUR OPINIONS, AND CRITISMS;....sad really; all P-Angel seems to do is ramble, on about WHAT SHE 'FEELS' and HONESTLY 'feels' she can idignize her feelings, and impose them on others as if she is an 'omnigod' what a self-serving, self-righteous, MEGLOMANIAC!! She's probably gonna take a 'special day' out of her soooooo 'busy' 'life' to spew more garbage at everyone else; EVERYONE, LET'S JUST FACE IT AND YOU TOO P-ANGEL; YOU ARE ONNNNNNNE STINKY FISH!!!LOL!!
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