Divorce and the Virgo

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by CLCNY30 on Thursday, January 6, 2011 and has 48 replies.
Okay--before I even get into it, please don't let the title of the thread deter you from responding should you happen to NOT be a Virgo. I'm interested in the aspect of divorce from both sexes and all signs smile so join in!
Now that I've gotten that out of the way, here's the scenario:
So a friend of mine (he's a Taurus, I'm meeting so many Taurus' lately! lol) is in a messed up situation. We're good friends, so he'll confide in me sometimes, but it depresses him to talk about it, and it depresses ME even more (I hate to see someone suffer).
So, he's been married to his wife for 13 years. They're both in their mid-to-late thirties. He said about 7 years in, whatever magic they had together just...up and went. They saw a priest, things got slightly better, but not in the bedroom. Basically, sex is obligatory for her, and it's passionless. They also only have it like once a month or so, if he's lucky twice. There's no cuddling, no snuggling, no sweet talk, none of that cuteness that he's seriously craving. I know Taureans aren't exactly vocal about emotions, and all that--but it's THAT bad that he's actually admitting to missing it. He's a good guy--hardworking (duh, Taurus, lol) makes crazy good money, he's smart, funny, and so handsome lol--I'm ALWAYS getting on his case for not thinking he is, I'm like, "are you serious? you're adorable!!!", and he doesn't seem to believe me; his self-confidence is really shattered (-_-).
Now, I know I'm only hearing his side of the story, but it's still really messed up to me. He never cheated, didn't think he had it in him, he's just always been defeated and very lonely. I drop him a line from time to time, just to check up on him, but I try not to keep in touch with him TOO much, because I'm the type to just tell him "DIVORCE HER ALREADY!" and I know that would hurt him to hear.
So, seven years in, they had a child (why, I do not know. I'm guessing it was a, "well, if we're going to be tethered to each other, might as well bring a distraction into the picture...maybe it'll repair us..." move). It did not repair them, of course. A few years later, baby #2 comes along. Things are worse than ever, and he's now considering cheating. Ugh.
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I don't condone it, I just feel like...if things are so bad that you guys don't have any closeness--AND if she's not wanting to sleep with you anymore, come on now! She's sitting at home all day w/the kids, you're at work (AND working overtime, as a he claims, "I feel better at work...more comfortable. The second I come home, it's nagging, and mean looks, and criticism...I take all the overtime I can get..." He has about 3 months of vacation time that he doesn't use each year, because vacation means staying at home with her, and having to keep himself from wanting to hang himself...
So we touched base for the new year last night, and I did my usual, "how are things?" and he told me they were no better, and he was seriously just starting to accept the notion of cheating, because--as he put it "I'm not going anywhere..."
Okay...I understand wanting to "do the right thing". I understand there are kids involved now, and him walking out would look like Deadbeat Dad...but not really. He's the breadwinner (she's a housewife) so him leaving would not stop him from taking care of his kids. I tried to explain that, and further explain that I grew up in a household that stayed together "for the kids" and it didn't benefit us--we grew up with a horrid idea of marriage being nothing but an obligatory prison...it's just not worth it. I'd rather my kids see me single and happy than married and miserable.
So, I asked a question I realized I had never asked him...and I swear to you, deep down I already knew the answer.
I asked what his wife's sign was.
...She's a Virgo, of course (-_-)
And Jesus wept...
*sigh*
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So, two earth signs. Two stability seeking signs. Neither wants to leave. Neither seems to believe in divorce.
One a Taurus male, the other a Virgo female.
I asked my Taurus guy for his take on it, and he said, "yeah, unless she leaves him, he ain't going nowhere. He'll suffer in silence, and if she DOES leave him, it'll tear him apart for a long time...unless he finds out she's cheating...THEN he'll get over it quicker, because yeah...we don't tolerate that sh*t, especially if HE'S busting his ass every day to bring home the bacon? Yeah, they'd be done..."
I know Taurus wants the marriage/kids thing, so I don't see him leaving.
I wonder though, what about Virgos??? I asked this question of myself, and here was my answer:
If I'm in a marriage that goes so sour that sex is not happening...it's not a marriage to me anymore. We don't have to f*ck like rabbits, but I'm sorry--I NEED to make love, and regularly. Although I can go without it for months, maybe even years, my body craves it when I'm in a relationship. To lay next to someone every night and not be cuddled up against them? To not reach out to touch them, have them touch me? The only thing that would make sense is that she's cheating, and he's in denial. But yeah, I'd divorce. The kids would be fine because Mommy would be so much happier on her own than in a sham of a marriage.
So what say you? What are your views on divorce? What about in their case? Any thoughts, theories?
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Sounds like that Virgette has too much Libra in her chart lmao
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I just couldn't fathom not wanting sex, as a Virgo woman, and told him so.
He was like "but don't you have a Scorp rising, and a Taurus moon?"
I said touch? =))
I need to ask what year she was born so I can do her birthchart.
Let me ask.
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Sun Virgo 11.44
Moon Aries 13.53
Mercury Virgo 27.27
Venus Leo 25.21
Mars Virgo 24.46
Jupiter Pisces 13.02 R
Saturn Cancer 16.06
Uranus Libra 25.22
Neptune Sagittarius 6.55
Pluto Libra 5.45
Lilith Aquarius 12.53
Asc node Sagittarius 14.56
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sun is in the 11th degree, so she is born somewhere in mid-september. possibily on the 3rd or 4th.
Makes sense.
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Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
sun is in the 11th degree, so she is born somewhere in mid-september. possibily on the 3rd or 4th.
Makes sense.


Oooh, nice guess
yes, the 4th smile
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Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
sun is in the 11th degree, so she is born somewhere in mid-september. possibily on the 3rd or 4th.
Makes sense.



aint you the smart the one lol.
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Posted by sorti-fantastic poney
sun is in the 11th degree, so she is born somewhere in mid-september. possibily on the 3rd or 4th.
Makes sense.


So when you said "makes sense" what did? Her actions?
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Hey C,
Wow, talk about the "seven year itch". I know you mentioned they went to see a priest but, was it for marriage counseling? If not, did you ask him if they've even considered it? Sorry if I missed something. He sounds like a really decent guy who loves his wife but monotony has set in...
I've never liked the idea of staying for the kids but I do understand it. Never liked it because it's basically a farce. Divorce is never easy but I would prefer for my husband to "serve the papers" than to stay in for the kids and cheat on me in order to have some fullfillment in his life.
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Pluto Libra 5.45
Sex planet in Libra, booya Winking
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Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Hey C,
Wow, talk about the "seven year itch". I know you mentioned they went to see a priest but, was it for marriage counseling? If not, did you ask him if they've even considered it? Sorry if I missed something. He sounds like a really decent guy who loves his wife but monotony has set in...
I've never liked the idea of staying for the kids but I do understand it. Never liked it because it's basically a farce. Divorce is never easy but I would prefer for my husband to "serve the papers" than to stay in for the kids and cheat on me in order to have some fullfillment in his life.


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I'm saying!
He always says, "it's just problems in the bedroom, that's all", and I'm like, "boo boo...take it from another Virgo female...if we're not sleeping with you anymore--YOU as our HUSBAND, it's sooooooooo much more than problems in the bedroom. It's one thing not to have sex all the TIME, but to NOT have sex? He said it's about once a month, if even that...I'm like, what?! And even then, it's straight f*cking, just like legs spread/insert rod A into slot B/extract rod/seperate to lie on different sides of the bed. Ugh!
I'm sorry, I understand the whole "staying for the kids/not being so quick to divorce like the celebs do", but I'm not going to wait around for my partner who is NOT having sex with ME to CHEAT.
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Posted by 25thDecan
are you sure this guy isnt the one doing the mlack of everythingm thing? there are some people who don't know that someone has been fed with THEM for awhile. My ex(taurus, though to me it doesn't matter so much) would what SHE wanted when SHE wanted. Any consequence I had to face because of a mistake she made doing it or anything she did that was disrespectful to me or the relationship was to her my being "out of touch with reality"....and not any normal reality...hers. and after we fought, when I voiced my opinion, she would claim to me and others that I never said anything.
This brings back some painful memories because I feel that the situation you're hearing is completely lopsided...possibly.
To answer the tune of the thread...personally, the deal breaker for me is when
1)you commit adultery. I can forgive it but not repair being betrayed sexually for things we need to work on mentally or physically. If that's the case, let me know that monogamy is NOT what you're capable of so I may go my own way
2)you are not committed to me as I am to you. Not by my logic...but by "okay, we've hit some rough water, here. Let's solve this." Versus you on some queen victoria sheet and wanna sweep it under the rug for the sake of being married with kids.
If we stop having sex, there's a big problem there and we need to work it out. We need to have sex. It's a part of our relationship and who we've become together.


No, I get you--and I'm entirely on your side.
He works from 8am - 8pm, all so she can stay home (she used to work) and take care of the kids (from what I understand, that was the plan she set for herself, as I can't see a Taurus turning away the prospect of additional income if she WANTED to work). I think she married him for security (they were dating in high school, high school sweethearts, and got married RIGHT after). Neither ever had a chance to really be with someone else, it's just been he and her for so long, that I can understand her finally waking up and being like, "yeah...I don't want to do this anymore..."
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Just drawing from my own experience and being a virgo female...I totally agree with the comment about needing sex while in a relationship but being able to go without sex if not in a relationship. The other thing for me, not sure about other virgos, is that sex for me in most all cases is quite emotional. So, if I'm not feeling us or you emotionally then it's going to be very hard for me to want to be intimate (love making) when I don't feel the love between us, for whatever reason.
If these are spiritual folks, then I am sure they both feel a deep sense of commitment to the marriage tied to their spiritual beliefs. That said, it might take a LONG time for either one to take steps towards getting their needs fulfilled somewhere else, if at all, but as sure as they are human, if their needs continue to go unfulfilled somebody's going to stop being the martyr for the marriage.
IMHO the wife might feel unfulfilled staying at home with the kids and not working, even though it appears that is what she wanted based on your posts. After my second child was born, I became a stay at home and that was only fun but for so long. My urge to be around grown ups and in corporate America eventually began to get the best of me. She may be her own worst enemy right now. It may do her and the relationship well to go back to work and put the kids in school or daycare and to take on some other personally fulfilling activities that she and the hubby can feel proud about for her.
It also seems like the lines of communication are WAY PAST broken. They definitely need to start talking for their own sake. A final word is that after the romantic love is gone for most Virgo women IMO, it's gone and there's no getting it back. So if the wife has no more romantic feelings toward the husband then the may be doomed for good and it's only going to get worse from here. Ugh. I hate that... By the way, I did finally get divorced, but my marriage was dead and gone for five years prior to the divorce...we both just went through the motions for those five dead years. Sex was just sex and I hated it! Yikes.
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Takes a lot to be able to say that musiegal.
Would you say the divorce at least solved how the marriage had become dead? Or was it just one recourse of many? If you don't mind.
And it's unfortunate but hopefully you've healed.

Because I have a strong spirituality (not overly religious, just know who I belong to ultimately) I tell people, to this day, that my ex and I would probably still be married if I hadn't found justification for the split in the Bible. II Corinthians gave me the resolve and the "out clause" that I needed to accept our end. My ex moved out of town and in a rash moment didn't want me and our children to join him. I saw this as him abandoning us, even though he changed his mind later. By that time, the romantic love was gone and all that was left was platonic.
We've been divourced for five years and we are very good friends. He's engaged and lives with his fiance. I'm happy for him. And, I'm completely determined to get that earth shattering love that I know I deserve the next time around!!!
We got married really young...right after college. I didn't know who I was, not fully. He wasn't fully evolved but to see him now, he hasn't changed much. He likes what he likes. Always has. He's a Scorp and he's one of my best male friends. I joke that he's like my brother, my son, my bodyguard and my BFF all rolled into one. LOL
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So what say you? What are your views on divorce? What about in their case? Any thoughts, theories?


Well, I'm a Cancer girl with Virgo rising, and I say both of them are stupid as fuck for deciding to have kids when their marriage was already in turmoil. I mean really, it's common sense that if your marriage isn't working out, you DON'T HAVE KIDS TO TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEM. Ugh. I know I'm being harsh, but my parents divorced when I was 12. It was hell for my 2 other sisters and me. When there's a bad marriage, neither choice benefits the kids. It sucks when they stay in the marriage (which my parents did for several years before their divorce, sleeping on the opposite sides of the house), and it sucks if when they get a divorce. So either way, they're damaging their kids. I'm sorry, but what kind of fucking idiots have kids to save a marraige these days? It's been said a million fucking times in the news, media, on tv, on the Internet, and everywhere elese that you DON'T HAVE A KID WHEN YOUR MARRIAGE IS IN JEOPARDY. Your friend is a moron, and so is his wife. Sorry, but I have to be honest. They're fucking idiots.
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I totally agree, and this is the reason why I do not stay in touch with him too often--I will say this, and it will hurt him, because I'm a little TOO blunt when I feel someone's creating their own misery and biznitching about it. I have no clue why he had kids with her--vice-versa. I dunno, I'm guessing it's the whole "if we're gonna be miserable together, let's at least try to produce something worthwhile". No clue.
I just know I couldn't do it, and I hope their children will be okay.
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Takes a lot to be able to say that musiegal.
Would you say the divorce at least solved how the marriage had become dead? Or was it just one recourse of many? If you don't mind.
And it's unfortunate but hopefully you've healed.

Because I have a strong spirituality (not overly religious, just know who I belong to ultimately) I tell people, to this day, that my ex and I would probably still be married if I hadn't found justification for the split in the Bible. II Corinthians gave me the resolve and the "out clause" that I needed to accept our end.
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This really stood out to me museigal because growing up in the church/in the word (yes, believe it or not I did) I was always sort of taught that the only way a woman should divorce her husband is if there was infidelity. I grappled with this for a long time, discussed with friends often and witnessed 'good christian women' who were downright miserable stay because they too were taught that that's just the way it was supposed to be. As I got older I began to reject the idea of marriage (for myself) and often questioned God about this considering there were so many other more important reasons to get out (i.e. domestic abuse, drug or alcohol addiction, the DL phenomenon etc, etc). Having lived a few years I now believe that while God did inspire man to write the bible, there are just some things that have been incorporated (and maybe some out of man's own self serving motivations) that are not of God because they don't seem to reflect his character and pattern of ideas.
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Posted by CLCNY30
So what say you? What are your views on divorce? What about in their case? Any thoughts, theories?


Well, I'm a Cancer girl with Virgo rising, and I say both of them are stupid as fuck for deciding to have kids when their marriage was already in turmoil. I mean really, it's common sense that if your marriage isn't working out, you DON'T HAVE KIDS TO TRY TO FIX THE PROBLEM. Ugh. I know I'm being harsh, but my parents divorced when I was 12. It was hell for my 2 other sisters and me. When there's a bad marriage, neither choice benefits the kids. It sucks when they stay in the marriage (which my parents did for several years before their divorce, sleeping on the opposite sides of the house), and it sucks if when they get a divorce. So either way, they're damaging their kids. I'm sorry, but what kind of fucking idiots have kids to save a marraige these days? It's been said a million fucking times in the news, media, on tv, on the Internet, and everywhere elese that you DON'T HAVE A KID WHEN YOUR MARRIAGE IS IN JEOPARDY. Your friend is a moron, and so is his wife. Sorry, but I have to be honest. They're fucking idiots.
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A woman after my own heart. Damn Cancers and Virgos are like the same people underneath it all. We think the same too. Can't stand idiots and stupidity.
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i feel bad that's y i dont care about marriage really i rather have my own shit and they have they own shit marriage doesn't really prove that you love someone or they love you.


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Posted by CLCNY30

See, me+you= >here

C,
If this is a really good friend and you can talk to him like this, then tell him to man the fuck up and take control of the situation by opening the lines of communication with his wife. You could also suggest marriage counseling and if he says "been there, done that" then ask him if he really thinks it would be a good idea to cheat on his wife especially while they are in this stage of virtually no communication, passion and not least of all, intimacy. Ask him how does he think that cheating on his wife who not too long ago bore him a damn near brand new baby would make the situation any better. For him? What about the family unit? How does he think carrying on an affair at this point will effect change in a good way? Ask him can he foresee the situation getting any better in the near future and if he thinks that there are some things that maybe he can do to get the ball rolling. Tell him that he won't know what she's thinking or feeling unless he talks to her and that he may very well have to be the one to step up first. Assure him that it's Ok to do this. I find that couples 'mind read' a lot. Presume to think they know what their spouse's thoughts are all the time. Wrong. Tell him if they don't talk, they won't know how to move forward. Ask him what's stopping him? Ask him if he is afraid of what he might hear? Perhaps she may want a divorce and is just waiting for him (don't tell him this. lol). Who knows. Ask him does he think it will be fair to the child to stay in the marriage just for their sake?
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I know you can be strategic. If you ask him questions like this hopefully you can really get him thinking for himself (almost in the way that a therapist would) and still wouldn't have to put yourself in that hairy situation of asking him straight out if he wants to get a divorce/what does he think of divorce etc (which a friend should never do anyway). You'd be surprised at how many people in these types of situations need an objective POV or just a little guidance to help them see outside the box so that they can eventually come to a resolve on important/major inner conflicts or life issues.
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From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.
They will put up with it all.
He told me some time last year he tries to keep the peace by being non-confrontational, or just not being home at all.
I just don't get it. I really don't.
And nah, I'ma leave him and her alone to their misery. I want to be as far away from that as possible.
But he's gonna cheat soon, I'm sure of it. And I'd bet anything she's ALREADY cheating.
Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.
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Posted by CLCNY30
From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.
They will put up with it all.
He told me some time last year he tries to keep the peace by being non-confrontational, or just not being home at all.
I just don't get it. I really don't.
And nah, I'ma leave him and her alone to their misery. I want to be as far away from that as possible.
But he's gonna cheat soon, I'm sure of it. And I'd bet anything she's ALREADY cheating.
Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.



we have a winner i dont like being in people misery i will only help when asked but other than that i gotta worry about me lol i learn you cant help everybody because people would wanna drag you down in their misery and negativity.
i say this your happiness is very important if your not happy where you at change your situation end of story.
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Posted by 25thDecan
Posted by CLCNY30
From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.

Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.



Can you send an honest good quality virgo latina who likes oranged skinned brothas to Houston, Tx, then? I know most of you latinas communicate psychopathicall...so....mek it hap'n....lmao.
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Lmfaoooooooooooo
All you gots to do is find a site hookin' up men with Latinas, cuz we all meeting on the interwebs now, LOL.
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Posted by 25thDecan
I meant communicate telepathically.....lol


LOL! SURE you did!

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Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
Posted by CLCNY30
From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.
They will put up with it all.
He told me some time last year he tries to keep the peace by being non-confrontational, or just not being home at all.
I just don't get it. I really don't.
And nah, I'ma leave him and her alone to their misery. I want to be as far away from that as possible.
But he's gonna cheat soon, I'm sure of it. And I'd bet anything she's ALREADY cheating.
Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.



we have a winner i dont like being in people misery i will only help when asked but other than that i gotta worry about me lol i learn you cant help everybody because people would wanna drag you down in their misery and negativity.
i say this your happiness is very important if your not happy where you at change your situation end of story.
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That's my attitude. Whenever we do reconnect every few months, he does seem to take it in stride, but I'm just confused as to why you'd stay in a marriage that you don't get any emotional and sexual attention in? I think she's staying with him for financial security, and yeah--I don't see him going anywhere. Especially if he finds something on the side? Yeah, that'll sustain him until the wife catches wind and goes nuts, cuz when a Virgo woman feels betrayed??? Yeah, you gon' get cut with something sharp.
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Posted by CLCNY30
From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.
They will put up with it all.
He told me some time last year he tries to keep the peace by being non-confrontational, or just not being home at all.
I just don't get it. I really don't.
And nah, I'ma leave him and her alone to their misery. I want to be as far away from that as possible.
But he's gonna cheat soon, I'm sure of it. And I'd bet anything she's ALREADY cheating.
Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.


I understand you not wanting to get involved. However, If I were you and did want to get involved, as a friend, these are some of the questions I would pose. Virgo women cheat???? No way!!
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Posted by CLCNY30
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
Posted by CLCNY30
From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.
They will put up with it all.
He told me some time last year he tries to keep the peace by being non-confrontational, or just not being home at all.
I just don't get it. I really don't.
And nah, I'ma leave him and her alone to their misery. I want to be as far away from that as possible.
But he's gonna cheat soon, I'm sure of it. And I'd bet anything she's ALREADY cheating.
Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.



we have a winner i dont like being in people misery i will only help when asked but other than that i gotta worry about me lol i learn you cant help everybody because people would wanna drag you down in their misery and negativity.
i say this your happiness is very important if your not happy where you at change your situation end of story.


That's my attitude. Whenever we do reconnect every few months, he does seem to take it in stride, but I'm just confused as to why you'd stay in a marriage that you don't get any emotional and sexual attention in? I think she's staying with him for financial security, and yeah--I don't see him going anywhere. Especially if he finds something on the side? Yeah, that'll sustain him until the wife catches wind and goes nuts, cuz when a Virgo woman feels betrayed??? Yeah, you gon' get cut with something sharp.
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lol the financial security virgos aint dumb lol i bet she's plotting virgos are always plotting lmao.
i bet she's waiting to make the right move then presto let the drama unfold lmao.
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Posted by CLCNY30
From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.
They will put up with it all.
He told me some time last year he tries to keep the peace by being non-confrontational, or just not being home at all.
I just don't get it. I really don't.
And nah, I'ma leave him and her alone to their misery. I want to be as far away from that as possible.
But he's gonna cheat soon, I'm sure of it. And I'd bet anything she's ALREADY cheating.
Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.


I understand you not wanting to get involved. However, If I were you and did want to get involved, as a friend, these are some of the questions I would pose. Virgo women cheat???? No way!!
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We can cheat.
I've cheated once in my life. Just once.
I did it because I already knew in my heart I was leaving, so I just didn't care anymore. We never slept together again (the ex and I) and I was true to my word and left asap.
We cheat when we no longer consider you worth our time, affection, or attention.
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Legendary, you wanna know something??? You are on POINT, LOL!
We got in touch again, because he wanted to know if I'd do a tarot reading for he and her. I said sure, and got to it the next day.
Well, all her cards said the same thing--she wants out. She feels restless, like rip her own SKIN off just to escape restless, but she does NOT want to hurt him (it REALLY emphasized that, she does NOOOOT want to hurt him. I'm sure it's because our guilt will kill us. So she's trying to figure out a way to leave without looking like the bad guy). She's plotting, according to the cards, saving up money and making plans to relocate. 3 cards came up saying she was going to be getting a job offer from afar, and it would begin her life in a more positive way--new beginnings for them both it said.
This card also came up for them:

Interpretation: This shows a grim reaper and a white rose at the same time. The Sun is setting in the background of the card, indicating the end of daylight hours. This is the card of endings, renewal and transformation of the highest order. The slate will be wiped clean for a fresh start. There will be none of the old left, so a whole new approach needs to be established before true renewal can take place. Sometimes when we draw this card, major events seems to unfold around us that challenge our thinking and our direction in life. Sometimes an unpleasant event shows us the way to a new path. This may seem traumatic at the time, but it is also saying that the old ways are no longer valid, or of value in your new life. It is time to cast aside whatever is hindering your progress in life and make a whole new start. Turn the leaf, sow new seeds, wear new clothes, change your appearance, move house, leave that boring job and get out there and dance. Life can end at any moment for any of us, so it is how wisely we spend our time here that really matters. You can still be serious about some aspects of your life, but leave plenty of room open for fun and for spontaneity. When we are on our death-bed, we will wish we had kicked up our heels more often, been more carefree, eaten more ice-cream, danced longer, sang out loud and showed others how much we love them. Don't wait till then, do it now, while you are alive and still kicking.
As Ms. Cleo said, "de cyahds don' lie!"
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lol, I understand it was rhetorical--but I stated it because there are people who actually think we're that virtuous, lol.
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From what I'm made to understand, Taurus men will stay as long as there's no cheating on her end.
They will put up with it all.
He told me some time last year he tries to keep the peace by being non-confrontational, or just not being home at all.
I just don't get it. I really don't.
And nah, I'ma leave him and her alone to their misery. I want to be as far away from that as possible.
But he's gonna cheat soon, I'm sure of it. And I'd bet anything she's ALREADY cheating.
Sorry, but Virgo women in relationships are very giving of our bodies to our partners, and if she's not acting as such...yeah, that sheit is done.


I understand you not wanting to get involved. However, If I were you and did want to get involved, as a friend, these are some of the questions I would pose. Virgo women cheat???? No way!!


We can cheat.
I've cheated once in my life. Just once.
I did it because I already knew in my heart I was leaving, so I just didn't care anymore. We never slept together again (the ex and I) and I was true to my word and left asap.
We cheat when we no longer consider you worth our time, affection, or attention.
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Girl that was rhetorical. I know like hell we can cheat.
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lol, I understand it was rhetorical--but I stated it because there are people who actually think we're that virtuous, lol.


Well shame on them. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Most def--we cheat, but only when there's nothing left--meaning that we're leaving anyway. And once our minds even ENTERTAIN the thought of cheating, we're no longer wanting the person we're with. Not that cheating in that instance makes it right, but we're leaving, so we just figure, "might as well, how can it damage this farce any more than it already is?"
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and thanks i just know virgos i three close people that i know are virgos i can read them like a book lol.
and i know virgos love to plot things to make it go our way we are just not open about it lol.
i read in deep astrology to virgos dont do to great in marriage because we like to be free the virgo sign means its not bound to no one in medieval times.
and ima great analyzer as well lol but i times im too lazy to read into situations its the libra placements in me lol.
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We got in touch again, because he wanted to know if I'd do a tarot reading for he and her.



Fuck is this shit here??? Tarot readings and shit??? You been hold'n out on us??? You could a been making some straight cash!!!! Girl you betta get yo ass a PayPal account and let it rip!
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Posted by LeGendary ViRGo


and ima great analyzer as well lol but i times im too lazy to read into situations its the libra placements in me lol.



Didn't I tell you to stop with that Libra shit?! I'm spit'n out my Coke here, damn!
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Posted by LeGendary ViRGo


and ima great analyzer as well lol but i times im too lazy to read into situations its the libra placements in me lol.



Didn't I tell you to stop with that Libra shit?! I'm spit'n out my Coke here, damn!
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lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Posted by CLCNY30

We got in touch again, because he wanted to know if I'd do a tarot reading for he and her.



Fuck is this shit here??? Tarot readings and shit??? You been hold'n out on us??? You could a been making some straight cash!!!! Girl you betta get yo ass a PayPal account and let it rip!
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
I told you I read cards =))
You wasn't listenin! Tongue
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Posted by 25thDecan
Santeria....


actually, brujeria Winking
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Posted by CLCNY30
Posted by VirgoVixxxen
Posted by CLCNY30

We got in touch again, because he wanted to know if I'd do a tarot reading for he and her.



Fuck is this shit here??? Tarot readings and shit??? You been hold'n out on us??? You could a been making some straight cash!!!! Girl you betta get yo ass a PayPal account and let it rip!


LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO
I told you I read cards =))
You wasn't listenin! Tongue


Speaking of which, I still haven't bought any Tarot cards. Soon as I do, I'm gonna hit you up for some tips, etc, etc.
I've been seeing a lot of shit with my third eye lately.
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you know I got you when you do Winking
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they need to read "the five love languages"
"love and respect" and "the personality tree" as well as
"love is a decision"
I was the same way with my scorp husband who i WANT to divorce as much as i wish we could work things out and for the last year i tried my ex had an affair he wanted a divorce i said fine and NOW he refuses, ONLY because he saw my Virgo ex, came back into the picture and ive never said bad things about him. (honestly my virgo ex was like THEE perfect bf for me - long story) anyways i never felt appreciated the more he put other things before me - uncles aunts, friends ... STRANGERS HE JUST MET ... the more i drew into myself.
I did Everything from my ex - though i made more money, was better at business and just juggled more, but i never complained teh thing my ex didnt like was after the kids, work, and business he got the elft over,s but never once did he offer to help - so of course being drained i didnt wanna be touched, i figured if he truly cared he' offer to help around the house.
finally started reading and seeing things through his view.
i dont know if it was cuz i was a tomboy growing up or if all virgos are like this, but i relate more to teh men when it comes to the emotional side of things, my ex would complain about things you'd hear most women complaining about.
and i figured me thinking more like a guy i'd click more with him (not knowing he had more of a feminine side to him)
until i read the books. we had both agreed on divorce. he now wants to work things out. as much as i dont believe in divorce, I dont care to ever see my husband again. I'm much happier now on my own. he doesnt want a divorce and i refuse to be the first one to initiate. i hate fai;ure and i dont wanna just give up but right now i dont wanna work on it either. even if he did sign first, i wouldnt make it easy for him. as much as i told him he can stay away from me
whenever he comes back i do throw it in his face how he shattered his kids. as much as i want to leave, my word my morals and my beleives hold me down. i did say for better or for worse - and i said if we gotta start with worse before we get to the "better" so be it ... nooow i wish i would have just signed the divorce papers as soon as teh church okeyed it. i probably stick around til he gets killed off somehow .... yeah him ... im remarrying once he's gone and i refuse to go first! LOL
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First off, thanks for sharing, VirgoLaydee.
Second--so, from what I'm understand, your pride is what's keeping you from leaving? I ask because this female--as I stated before, is also a Virgo, and while I'm one too I have never been married...so I just can't fathom staying in a dying marriage. Kids or no kids.
So, you're waiting for him to die? Why? Why not leave while YOU'RE still alive and well? Still healthy? Still kicking? Still able? Why punish yourself like this?
I'm sorry, but I just don't get this mindset, and pray to God I never find myself in a situation like this.
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Posted by PurrHiss

I agree. smile We're both very observant signs who pick up on subtleties very well, so we can see very clearly what's going on around us. I think that when Cancers are angry enough, they can be as critical as Virgos, and when Virgos are vulnerable enough, they can be as sensitive as Cancers.


Oh good one, PH. Never thought of it like this. It amazes me just how many similarities there are between the two signs.
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CLNYC30, Catguy and Mr. 2 & 5 spell trouble. LOL.
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*sorry, above entries hidden for typos...I'm tired (-_-)*
And this is why I like yo ass, Decan =))
*standing ovation on all of the above*
I'm not a troublemaker, really--I'm a giggler in real life, with a babyface that never changes, so when you cross me...I mean REALLY get on my bad side enough to get cursed the FUK out, you've gotta be one lowlife piece of chit that no one probably would miss if you disappeared anyway. Bottomline. I don't respect people who are rude cvnts trying to disguise "the truth" with being a bich, and I'll never back down from telling them to go suck a dik. Don't blame the world because you were raised without hugs, to the point where you need to lash out at people just to feel somewhat human. Seek help.
Nursery rhyme that describes me best:
There was a little girl
With a little curl
Right in the middle of her forehead
When she was good, she was VERY very good
But when she was bad, she was HORRID.
Translation: Don't start none, won't be none.
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Oh but being a bit of trouble is not always a bad thing. When I say you guys are trouble, just means I could only imagine what a get together with the three of you would be like. Fun, interesting, comical, wicked, a little raunch thrown in for good measure. Just smirk, accept the compliment, and tell me that I'm right. Ha!
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