Do Virgo men marry for love or are they users

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by canerleo101 on Saturday, April 26, 2014 and has 63 replies.
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So Ive been dating this Virgo guy for 10 months and in my opinion, he is playing games but he had the nerve to act as if i dont have enough financial assets to be with him. Which is funny because he begged me to stop talking to my very well off ex bf to persue a relationship with him. And yes my ex bf has almost 1 million dollars in assets and this Virgo guy is broke.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Once you cut him off. Dnt ever look back. He did you a huge favor! Leave his criticisizing nature be. You wont win with him. He will only pull you down. Hes not even real! Hes not a real person!


I've never had a bf tell me everything thats wrong with me. But if i were to do the same thing to him he wouldn't be able to take it.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Of course he wldnt hes not a real man.


The olny reason why stayed interested in him this long is because i don't believe in sex before marriage and he had no problem with that but now it seems like he just purposely tried to get me to get close to him just to get me so attached that i would be stuck on him, are all Virgo me such opportunist and users.
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Posted by canerleo101
So Ive been dating this Virgo guy for 10 months and in my opinion, he is playing games but he had the nerve to act as if i dont have enough financial assets to be with him. Which is funny because he begged me to stop talking to my very well off ex bf to persue a relationship with him. And yes my ex bf has almost 1 million dollars in assets and this Virgo guy is broke.


Srsly?
Damn.
I was just telling someone about the Virgo I dated who expected me to drop everything for his convenience, but didn't give a shit about mine.
Very critical person, too-- and cheap.
There is a huge difference between being prudent and being downright cheap-- the latter, I won't abide.
That said, I dated another Virgo (with a lot of Leo!), and he wasn't like that, at all.
Not even close.

Regardless, it isn't likely that it's going to change-- soo I'm with Juicy on this one.
Keep it moving. Winking
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date the rich ex jk
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Yes,Virgo men are after money,due their earnest nature.I know a Virgo wo married for a house(he never could mannage to buy one with his small salary).Pathetic!
I dated 2 of them and both gave me this impresion..
Iam a virgo too(woman),owning my own house,but iam more interested in a man's heart,not how much money he has.But i dont like men who are reckles spenders.
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I can't help but think that your net worth isn't the real issue.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Its not. HE is the issue.


No. That's not quite it either. It's easy to pick a side when someone does a good at slandering the images of people.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
The real question is not the situation with the broke azz virgo, but why you and your rich ex broke up, why would a cancer give up on financial security?
Did he beat you?

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He lied about other women but he was an excellent provider. He would always ask questions like "if we were to get married and you found out thar i was cheating would you leave me, and what if it happened more than once" so i heared that Virgos are extremely faithful when they finally marry so id rather be with a broke faithful Virgo than wealthy cheating Libra.
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Posted by LilyTree
His comment and how he said it was definitely tactless and out of line. There is a way to go about discussing these topics, and he definitely did it wrong.
However, I disagree with what your title implies: that if you don't marry for love it means you're a user. I don't believe in that.


Then what arw you suppose to marry for, maybe financial security but you can build that together.
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Posted by LilyTree
His comment and how he said it was definitely tactless and out of line. There is a way to go about discussing these topics, and he definitely did it wrong.


That's just Virgo though. If you're easily hurt by words, I suggest you leave sooner rather than later.


But he's basically saying she's not good enough, is that the truth or is he trying to hurt her?

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I agree it seems to me that he is saying that i am not good enough become of my fincial status. So i guess he's looking for some rich older chick but it just makes me upset because he begged me stop talking to my ex and he is the olny guy that could get me to do this.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Exactly! Dnt listen to any of those ppl saying oh my virgo was this andbthat notice the keyword WAS!!!! Not married. 10 months in is long enough. Hes a loser! Trust everyone else who is telling you the truth from their experience! If you have to go on an astro blog and ask questions you know something isnt rigjt and thats because it isnt! You dont want to soend forever let a lone another minute with a bad person. He will pull you down.


I noticed that if you and your virgo are so compatible than why arent you guys married it seems like a virgo will stay in a relationship for several years and wont marry the person who they are with, as if there always looking for something better thats not love in my opinion that abusive and that using a person.
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Posted by Amandus
I can't help but think that your net worth isn't the real issue.


I think that he also thinks that i am needy but told him how i was from jump and for several months he catered to my so called neediness. So ive never changed i have stayed the same through our friendship.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Shutup! Shes not slandering anybody. Typical virgo response lers look at the other side aka the bad side and try to make it good. Sorrt not gonna work. He criticizes everything about her n tells her she doesnt have enough money meanwhile hes sitting at home being a couch potato with zero net worth as you put it! Lol please!


Exactly, hes actually the brokest guy that i have ever dated but i still gave him a chance.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Lily is dumb. Conveince is never a factor for marriage. Im will to bet every lilyfaketree is uunmarried and has a trail of ex boyfriends! That is not advice you ever give to a woman!


Lily seems like a really sweet person but i think that her standards are a little different than mine. I am not saying that her standards are less than mine they are just different than mine. And i personally would never marry for conveince however, sometimes i wish that i were the type of person who would marry for conveince it would probably have saved me a few heartbreaks. But its hard to change who i am.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Trust real men know "neediness" is love. If a woman aint bein needy with you that means shes found someone else to fulfill her needs.


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Posted by CluelessCancer
The real question is not the situation with the broke azz virgo, but why you and your rich ex broke up, why would a cancer give up on financial security?
Did he beat you?y


Im not new to dxp i posted on here once before but i couldn't remember my user name so i had to make a new account. I was i a lond distance relationship with this guy but i have now moved to NYC. But now i guess he is showing his true colors.
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
Oh youre welcome babe. Next time you wanna open your mouth and give some irrelevant, gold digger based advice depending inhow im feeling ill blow your cover again! As far as my intelligence and dignity i def agree they are shining like moon on a dark winter night! Am I educated enough to show you? Yrs. Do I feel the need to prove it? No. Am I humble enough to know that words and certificates and degrees mean nothing? Yes. Mind you this is a person who takes peasure in teasing her cats. A real stand up person. Give it up for lilyfaketree. It has been a pleasure dealing. Im done with you now.


Omg, shut the fuck up. You're embarrassing yourself.
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Posted by canerleo101
... he had the nerve to act as if I don't have enough financial assets to be with him.




Your testimony here isn't statements he made, rather your inkling of what you perceive he might mean. And since you've got your panties wadded up over financial status in people, your judgment of his intentions are likely piss poor.

Posted by canerleo101
And yes my ex bf has almost 1 million dollars in assets and this Virgo guy is broke.

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What difference does that ^^^ make? You seemed to be focused on it, why would you even mention this, because it's irrelevant.
One side of your mouth says the boyfriend acts like money matters too much .... then the other side of your mouth talks about how rich exes are.
btw ... how would you know how much money an ex has?

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Posted by canerleo101
I agree it seems to me that he is saying that ......




Again, you aren't going off of statements he made, rather your interpretation based off of resentment that he isn't rich.
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This Juicybaby chic is an idiot .... which of course, everyone knows except her.
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You're obviously just attention whoring ....
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Posted by P-Angel

This Juicybaby chic is an idiot .... which of course, everyone knows except her.



+ infinity!
I was going to reply to this thread but I just couldnt after reading the stupid shit coming out of its mouth. smh....sometimes I cant believe its allowed for just anybody to post to the net!
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aaaahhh so tight jeans girl returns under a new name Winking
how's the war going?
Not to well obviously from the post here....
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Yes there are some materialistic men and we can thank women's lib for that. Look, I understand that the economics are a big part of the equation for making a romantic relationship work. But men these days seem more like pussies who want to live off the women. Record number of men aren't pulling their weight and letting the woman carry the whole show. As a society, we've become obscenely materialistic and that plays out in both genders. A real man might have issues with your financial situation but he will work with you as a team to achieve your goals together. Many men don't want to work for it. They're fishing for the rich woman they can live off on. Sure we were accused/still are of this kind of mercenary behavior but traditionally we carried, raised and supported the family and so had to be practical. If he's really this materialistic, he's got his priorities in the wrong place (status) and you don't need him. But this might be just a spat and he's slinging dirt at you. Can't say based on the info you've shared. These are just general reflections on the sorry state of manhood today. Some people lay all the blame at our door but men aren't what they used to be. How many strong confident men do you know? I don't many, that's for sure.
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Posted by LilyTree

While I consider myself an independent woman, I by no means label myself to be a "feminist." Most especially not the modern definition of the term. I am aware of the importance of the role of a man, and I am aware of the importance of the role of a woman, and I don't believe in belittling, disregarding, diluting,
or monopolizing either role by either gender the role doesn't belong to.


Then you're sorely misinformed as to what feminism is. Feminism has nothing to do with one gender being better than the other. Only asshats think that's a true definition and is spread around as if it were fact, hence so much misunderstandings of what feminism is. It is not to be confused with bra burning and feminazis who scream girl power, sorry.
If you claim not to be a feminist, then you're saying you're perfectly fine with society as how it is now, with one gender still widely preferred over the other.
If you think that the genders should be equal and one should not be preferred or dominant over another, then yes, you are indeed a feminist.
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I'm so happy that I'm the type of person who doesn't give a rats ass what a man has or doesn't have. (monetarily speaking that is) If some women knew how to take care of themselves, I suppose love would have more room to grow in a relationship over what a man can do for them financially these days.
Expectations, demands and assumptions is what kills any potential relationship. What a waste of energy, yet at the same time a plus as it will give the man a heads up what he's in for. Enter the disappearance act..
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In my own narrow experience (still learning, and all), I've seen and done a lot of clinging to material possessions and the hoping for more when assets are painfully low, and that tends to go away to the point of nonexistence when funds are high enough to live comfortably. 'Comfortably' depends on the person, of course, but the Virgos I've seen tend to take up small spaces and be adaptable enough to adjust to many different environments. It's never a reason to end relations with someone, because that someone is a value in their own right. A person is a shoulder, a confidante, an advice seeker-and-giver. If he told you he basically thinks you're not rich enough, he could be using it as an excuse because he doesn't enjoy the relationship, OR he could also be telling you in a tactless way that in order to improve your own life and acquire the things you appear to desire, getting richer would be a useful path. That came to mind when thinking of some possible reason to say that without the intention of harm.
No one says much about Virgos being tactful. Winking Not complaining on that, either, actually! But usually a good idea to dig deeper initially. I hear many comments that would come off as rude, but are meant as helpful. In such cases it's best to just ask. Be blunt right back.
I understand relations with this man and this situation are pretty much at an end. Take this as potential advice for any new Virgos you may meet?
I am Virgo Moon, boosted by Virgo Descendent. The man I'm dating is Virgo Sun. ^_^
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Posted by canerleo101
He lied about other women but he was an excellent provider. He would always ask questions like "if we were to get married and you found out thar i was cheating would you leave me, and what if it happened more than once" so i heared that Virgos are extremely faithful when they finally marry so id rather be with a broke faithful Virgo than wealthy cheating Libra.


*heart*
Not slandering any specific signs, I've seen wisdom in some key libra lurkers here... but bravo to dumping an obvious cheater. Bravo for choosing faithfulness over materialism! Too bad your new partner couldn't live up to the same standard. 0:-)
Posted by LilyTree
The sad state society is in was evident when I listened to one woman complain to her girlfriend that her boyfriend only bought her 6 roses when she wanted 20, "like other girls get." She wondered aloud if that was too much to ask. She seemed to think that the 6 roses were not only insufficient, but also a direct reflection on how much her boyfriend really valued her. In this day and age where almost everyone is struggling financially, her ungratefulness and ingratitude turned my stomach. Men talk about tricking women, and women talk about playing men. It's a lose-lose game.
What's more, men are as effeminate as ever with too much time, thought, and money spent on contrived and gimmicky looks that, in my opinion, emasculate them. Clothes truly affect a person's mentality, attitude, and behavior. So, all one has to do is look at how a particular society dresses to get a snapshot of the its strengths or, rather, its pitfalls.
While I consider myself an independent woman, I by no means label myself to be a "feminist." Most especially not the modern definition of the term. I am aware of the importance of the role of a man, and I am aware of the importance of the role of a woman, and I don't believe in belittling, disregarding, diluting,
or monopolizing either role by either gender the role doesn't belong to.
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You now have another favorite people. (Gotta love the grammar on that) Winking
Not lurking, honestly! Came looking for anything about that big ol' cardinal grand cross that kept hitting my inbox from news sources. It was like nothing happened. Nothing! Yawners.
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Posted by LilyTree

I am definitely not misinformed as what you described is EXACTLY what modern "feminism" is about. Regardless of whether or not it's accurate or true to what the original spirit of feminism was, it is what it is and it wasn't my idea for it to have deformed into such a state.
I got a lecture on how showing skin is "empowering" and shows that a woman "embraces her sexuality." I was spoken to as if I was somehow contributing to the downfall of women because I prefer to dress modestly. No thank you.
I am a woman. I do not call myself a feminist. And despite my beliefs regarding the status and value of women, I do not and will not label myself as being a feminist.


Your current views ARE feminist, though. Sorry to burst your bubble.
People all too often assume that feminism is some of that crazy bs you see some women do that makes the entire concept look bad. Sorry, but that never will be feminism. It's the ignorant label put on that bs by those who don't even know what it is.
So go ahead and put your own little definition on it and say you are not that way, but the legit definition of the concept of feminism is something you DO follow, as do many men. A lot of people believe in the concept of feminism, yet are not aware that they are indeed feminist for believing those concepts.
And lol at your example. You have got to be kidding me. You're believing a definition construed by an ignorant media, INTENDING for it to look that way. There's a reason for that and you're feeding into it. Congrats. smile
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Posted by canerleo101
Posted by CluelessCancer
The real question is not the situation with the broke azz virgo, but why you and your rich ex broke up, why would a cancer give up on financial security?
Did he beat you?y


Im not new to dxp i posted on here once before but i couldn't remember my user name so i had to make a new account. I was i a lond distance relationship with this guy but i have now moved to NYC. But now i guess he is showing his true colors.


I remember this story. So you moved to NYC to be with him. Wow you guys are still going strong...
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Not really we were kind of off and on even before I moved to NY. But he keeps giving mixed signals. Well, I just spoke with him yesterday after days or going back and forth we decided that we will still be friends. But its strange because it feels like we are still in a relationship since he is not talking to any other women and I am not talking to any other men. Since he is the only person that I know in NY I guess I will still be friends with him. I still love him and have a lot of feelings for him.
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Posted by justagirl
aaaahhh so tight jeans girl returns under a new name Winking




Back in full force.
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Posted by canerleo101
I agree it seems to me that he is saying that ......




Again, you aren't going off of statements he made, rather your interpretation based off of resentment that he isn't rich.
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Your not making any sense if I had resentment because of his financial status I would have never given him a chance to begin with.
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Posted by Este8
Some people lay all the blame at our door but men aren't what they used to be. How many strong confident men do you know? I don't many, that's for sure.


How many submissive women who cook and clean to perfection do you know?
And no, I'm not here to complain about women at all. Both genders who complain are missing for times that never existed - women want the Marlboro man with an MD degree and sensitive side; men want a pornstar housewife with a black AmEx card.
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You got to love it when P-Angel brings it! No-one wants to admit it but she's usually right.
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I have no idea wtf a black AmEx card is. Do I want to know?
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Posted by SanchoMuyTerrible
Posted by Damnata
I have no idea wtf a black AmEx card is. Do I want to know?


I believe it's a credit card that can never be declined because the owner's of said card are incredibly rich.
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yup. the elite of the elite Winking
As to P-Angel, yes she is usually right, sad so many dismiss what she has to say because they get butthurt over the truth, their loss.
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Posted by justagirl
Posted by SanchoMuyTerrible
Posted by Damnata
I have no idea wtf a black AmEx card is. Do I want to know?


I believe it's a credit card that can never be declined because the owner's of said card are incredibly rich.


yup. the elite of the elite Winking
As to P-Angel, yes she is usually right, sad so many dismiss what she has to say because they get butthurt over the truth, their loss.

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There is a way to speak truths and a way to help people, give insights with out being a demeaning bitch! Just saying! Yes, some people on DXP don't deserve any respect but there has been many who are really looking for insight.. And she attacks.. She is, it appears to be, an intelligent woman but people don't listen when you are rude and talk down to them. It's easier to see someone else's problems then our own!!
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Posted by canerleo101
he had the nerve to act as if i dont have enough financial assets to be with him.
And yes my ex bf has almost 1 million dollars in assets and this Virgo guy is broke.




And of course, every person with a rational mind has realized by now that the Virgo has thrown the taunting back in your face, and you can't handle it.
I love how Virgos do that .... a small person like you isn't going to get away with being beguiling, which a Cancer will try to do every time, to then try and act like the victim when the Virgo presents them with the truth.

I love how you've gone to other boards to continue with your sulking ... that is proof that you can't handle being the cunt you are.
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Posted by xvll27
Posted by Posted by Montgomery
I dated another Virgo (with a lot of Leo!), and he wasn't like that, at all.Not even close


I have noticed Virgo with strong Leo placement are different than the other Traditional Virgos smile
Posted by LilyTree
The only time he cut me with words (and Virgos can certainly use words as deadly weapons) was once when I cornered him

I agree I can listen to some people for an hour or so but after that some day I will defiantly use communication skill to let them figure out the facts but I cant deal with useless arguments and debate smile
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In what ways are Virgos with Leo placements different than traditional Virgos, this guys birthday is Aug 24 so he is on the cusp.
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Posted by canerleo101
he had the nerve to act as if i dont have enough financial assets to be with him.
And yes my ex bf has almost 1 million dollars in assets and this Virgo guy is broke.




And of course, every person with a rational mind has realized by now that the Virgo has thrown the taunting back in your face, and you can't handle it.
I love how Virgos do that .... a small person like you isn't going to get away with being beguiling, which a Cancer will try to do every time, to then try and act like the victim when the Virgo presents them with the truth.

I love how you've gone to other boards to continue with your sulking ... that is proof that you can't handle being the cunt you are.
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How was I ever taunting him? I never had a problem with the fact that he is broke, if I had a problem with that I would have never started dating him to begin with.
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@canerleo101,
I would suggest that you assess your situation and his situation. Bottom line is that you both have to be equal in love and financial situation to get into a marriage. If not equal, one of you will hold a resentment and that is not a good thing to have in a marriage. Resentment is like disease that will eat you up from within and there is no cure for resentment.
Breaking up with someone is definitely painful. You being a cancer so you will be hurt (probably the most in this) but the choice you have is to be in pain now or later.
Good luck!
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Posted by Este8
Some people lay all the blame at our door but men aren't what they used to be. How many strong confident men do you know? I don't many, that's for sure.


How many submissive women who cook and clean to perfection do you know?
And no, I'm not here to complain about women at all. Both genders who complain are missing for times that never existed - women want the Marlboro man with an MD degree and sensitive side; men want a pornstar housewife with a black AmEx card.


What's wrong with knowing how to cook and clean? They are essential life skills. They're not weaknesses in a woman if she possesses those abilities.


I think you misunderstood it love. He means it's a shame many don't know these things anymore. Obviously no man is gonna see it as a bad thing since men are in fact grown up kidsTongue
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That's exactly what I meant. I'm saying that as life has gotten better, people expect more from partners and media plays a role in this as well...
I keep hearing from women how "there are no real men out there anymore". Where are these manly men supposed to come from, raised by mother and working (soft) office jobs.
The women of 21st century forget that while men used to be more manly, that came with a downside. Before you start asking for the "good ol' days", make sure you know what you're asking for.

Other than that, this is a great thread and a very interesting read.
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Posted by Este8
Some people lay all the blame at our door but men aren't what they used to be. How many strong confident men do you know? I don't many, that's for sure.


How many submissive women who cook and clean to perfection do you know?
And no, I'm not here to complain about women at all. Both genders who complain are missing for times that never existed - women want the Marlboro man with an MD degree and sensitive side; men want a pornstar housewife with a black AmEx card.
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Au contraire. I do not long for some mythologized Marlboro man. I've observed the radical change in both men and women's behavior since I was a wee one in the 70s. My father and the men I knew in Texas were your typical man's man except my father was also a visual artist and my mother stayed home with the kids until we were in school. And we didn't have money. We were very working class. I remember how things were and it's not the same. We've become a very ego-centric materialistic me-first culture and that has played out negatively with both genders. I just used this particular post to point out the change in men.
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Posted by Este8
Some people lay all the blame at our door but men aren't what they used to be. How many strong confident men do you know? I don't many, that's for sure.


How many submissive women who cook and clean to perfection do you know?
And no, I'm not here to complain about women at all. Both genders who complain are missing for times that never existed - women want the Marlboro man with an MD degree and sensitive side; men want a pornstar housewife with a black AmEx card.


Au contraire. I do not long for some mythologized Marlboro man. I've observed the radical change in both men and women's behavior since I was a wee one in the 70s. My father and the men I knew in Texas were your typical man's man except my father was also a visual artist and my mother stayed home with the kids until we were in school. And we didn't have money. We were very working class. I remember how things were and it's not the same. We've become a very ego-centric materialistic me-first culture and that has played out negatively with both genders. I just used this particular post to point out the change in men.
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I can only agree with that. But men and women are in a kind of symbiosis for lack of a better word.
Women have often hinted to me that they think I'm poor as I choose not to show wealth, so it concerns both genders.
The trick is to find people who aren't as superficial, they do exist.
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The majority of Virgo men are dirt cheap. Delusional. Unfair. Emotionally unavailable. I met a Virgo guy at the bookstore a while back in January.. he was 35. Made $ 200K a year... I usually get guys to pay my bills, take me out, etc... so I can keep my own money for material possessions.. but this guy here... talked on and on and on about how his father taught him not to get a girl pregnant (he said because she would take all of his money for 18 years lmao), never get married (unless there's a prenup saying she will get nothing), and to never spend money on a woman. He got a vasectomy done so he could avoid getting a woman pregnant. He said he didn't believe in spending money on a woman. This explains why his version of a date is him cooking at his house, or watching movies illegally on some website that streams them instead of going to the movies. Then I found out this loser had a girlfriend... and he had the freakin AUDACITY to ask me to move in with them and become his second girlfriend because he wants to be in a polygamy situation like most African men (his parents are from the Ivory Coast). I just couldn't believe this was happening. The funny thing he KNOWS he's cheap, but he likes to reword it as "economically savvy." Not to mention he told me his girlfriend has her checks from work deposited into HIS savings account!!!! So I'm like... is this dude pimping her? It was weird! Virgos believe in the double standard. They can do it, but you can't! This man was straight up delusional. He claims he's trying to "build an empire." Needless to say, he got cancelled IMMEDIATELY. NO amount of money is worth putting up with a maniac like him, So I had no choice but to cancel him.
When it comes to Capricorn, Virgo, Pisces, Libra, Aries, Gemini, Aquarius men .... RUN RUN RUN!!
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But I will say one thing... ole dude is definitely an earth sign... The majority of earth signs (most of them won't admit this) expect people to drop everything to attend to them... IDK where that comes from...
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Posted by Juicysbaby214
P-devil youre 55 years old and you're still hating. You shld be ashamed of yourself! Grandma go to bed and make amends with God before its too late.



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I just feel like a man should MATCH what you have or SURPASS it. So if you make $ 100K a year after taxes, he should at least make the same or more!! That sounds fair to me. But he definitely shouldn't make less than you. There's no use in settling. Love isn't that important to me to the point where I'm willing to settle. lol puhlease
There's definitely nothing wrong with taking care of yourself as a woman though. You always wanna make sure you have your own and know how to take care of yourself, just in case a man cuts you off from his finances and other sources of support.
BUT... I'm definitely not the "miss independent" type. Men WANT to provide for their woman. I've had so many conversations with men who've admitted that overly independent women are a turn OFF. Key word.. OVERLY. The only men that appears to like those overly independent women are the cheap or broke guys.
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