For Scorpios Who Love Virgos

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by DyarStra?e on Friday, June 26, 2009 and has 27 replies.

Here's some golden oldies from 3 years ago, when I was dyrstr8z on DXP, and came here trying to figure out a Scorpio Woman...
Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 3/29/2006 9:21:08 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.142
Here's the deal: Virgo man has potential relationship with Scorpio female; he hasn't seriously dated in 25 years (divorced 18 months); hasn't dated a Scorpio since high school; and hasn't dated a gorgeous blond since college. She made the first move (of course!) about five months ago, and he didn't catch the hints until last week (a coworker clued him in - she thought he might be gay!). So, he's already tried her patience, but he doesn't want to rush this thing until he gets more info on her (we work in the same building, but not in the same dept - it's a big place!)...
Scorpio gals: How slow is too slow when you're interested in a new guy? Took her to lunch today (regular lunch hour deal) - my treat. We have some things in common, and she has a great wit - laughed my ass off! If I don't press for a date this weekend, is that gonna send a bad signal? (I got tons of work to catch up on - was out of earlier this week.)
~dyrstr8z
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Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 3/31/2006 9:24:13 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.178
sophie68: I posted some advice for you over on the VIRGO page...
As for me: Yeow! Scorpios really take the initiative! She called me at work this morning, asked if I'd seen "Pride & Prejudice" - I thought she wanted a date to the movies, but instead she invites me over to her place to watch the new DVD. She caught me off guard, so I agreed. She gets off work before I do, so I picked up a pizza on the way, and she supplied the wine...
What a dinner! We actually didn't pay much attention to the movie - talked almost non-stop for 3 hours about practically everything. She really is amazing: dropped out of high school to marry a military man; traveled all over creation; had 3 kids on 3 different continents; is just about finished with her bachelor's degree. Only downside: she's divorced the same guy twice - don't quite get that! Also, she's 9 years younger than me. Everybody says I look younger than my age, but still...
Anyway, I think she wanted me to sleep over - but I have to drive up in the morning to see my Dad - still hanging in there at 83!! Even without that prior commitment, I would have politely declined. I'm not a prude - or gay! - but I never hop in the sack on short notice (didn't bring protection!), this early in the dating game.
Okay, so is she just crazy about me; or, is she really in need of a tire rotation; or, is she testing me?
~dyrstr8z
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Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/1/2006 8:59:56 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.142
sophie68,
An update: I called her last night to thank her for having me over, and she pulls another "impromptu date" thing again - asks if I'd like to meet her for lunch on Sunday after church (we go to different ones - THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE LONG TERM!), because she knew I'd be out of town today at my Dad's. She didn't catch me off guard this time, though, and I suggested a picnic if the weather holds up (been real warm this weekend), and she agreed to it. Now, the ball is in my court, and I get to plan the event (yeah, I know, typical Virgo need to be in charge!) - cool!
Looking back at the first date, I really don't think she was testing me - and I don't think she's loose. I think she's done her homework, and knows a LOT MORE about me than I do about her, and maybe feels more comfortable about approaching me sexually. I gotta be honest, she's one very attractive woman, and I don't know if I'll be able to maintain a polite distance for too much longer.
My real issue now is this: I think I see a pattern in her dating suggestions, and I want to make sure I'm not being to critical (have you ever met a Virgo who wasn't critical?). One, she's using these ambush tactics to keep me off guard and keep herself in the driver's seat. Two, she's suggesting dates that are low-stress, easy to arrange, and won't make a Virgo go ape-sh** trying to plan and control every last detail. Or, it's some other reason that I can't guess because I don't know enough about her...
Trying not to be an over-analyzing worry-wort here, but I am what I is...
~dyrstr8z
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Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/2/2006 4:56:53 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.142
Okay all you Scorpio ladies: I just got back from my picnic with my Scorpio gal - Debra - and I'm still weak...
We had lunch by the lake, hiked down to a waterfall, and then back up to my Jeep for a drink - it's been above-average hot here today. I got her one out of the cooler (in the floorboard behind my seat), and went to get one for myself. She stops me, says we can share - she only needs to wet her throat. So, we're standing there sharing a coke, joking around (we'd really been clicking to this point), and she gives me this really intense look. Gotta mention her eyes: Debra's are dark brown, but there's these tiny flecks of gold, and when the light hits them, it's like a glitter effect; really sexy - almost hypnotic. Anyway, I KNEW she wanted me to kiss her (yeah, I do catch some hints!), so I leaned down (she's about a foot shorter) for a polite brush on the lips... but no, she puts the lip-lock on me!! Almost dropped the coke...
When she - finally! - let me up for air, my head was reeling. She said something about not too bad for an old guy (I'd been joking with her before about our age difference), and I said something pretty lame in reply. Then, she points to the back seat and asked if it folds down. Took me a second or two to catch the drift, but I did lean in and pop the latch. It's a Jeep Liberty, and rear seat is split. She climbs in - not a bad view! (yes, StringsAttached, this Virgo IS an ass man!) - makes some comment about how roomy it is, and starts moving stuff to the front seats...
I'm standing there with (I'm sure) my jaw dropped, in stunned silence, and then she waves at me to join her. I told her something about it not being the very best place for parking - we were well off the main road, and there hadn't been very many people at the falls or on the lake (water's still cold), but the rangers do make rounds. She wasn't buying it - or any other excuses...
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Short story long, I joined her in the back of my Jeep, and we made out like two college kids on spring break - three times in less than an hour! (Now you know why I'm still weak!)
Okay, not gonna get pornographic (sorry!), but when I went to get a condom, she told me I didn't need one; I hesitated, and she kinda got pissed. It was just a momentary thing, but now I see the stinger on this Scorpion!
Also, after Round Two, we're taking a breather, and I guess she wanted to take the sting outta the condom episode - tells me she hasn't been with a man in over a year, and that she made the last guy wear them. Didn't trust him, and eventually called it quits with him. I said something about how I felt honored, and she said that I was a "keeper" - what the heck does that mean??
Finally (yeah!), I gotta say to sophie68: If your Virgo has gotten anywhere near the treatment I have, no wonder the guys all topsy-turvy!!
~dyrstr8z
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Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/6/2006 9:28:27 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.211
dyrstr8z here: I've been handing out my words of wisdom to all you ladies interested in us cool Virgo guys, so now I gotta ask a favor of you...
Less than 24 hours to Date #3 with my hot as hell Scorpio lady. This is the BIG ONE: a real "night on the town" versus more casual dating last week. I've been stoking the fire, told her at breaktime this morning to "get her dancing shoes on, and get plenty of rest tonight... " because she's gonna need it!
I'll be 46 in SEPT, and she'll be 37 in NOV. We've already made love (date #2). If I suggest coming back to my house for a nightcap, and it doesn't go according to plan (she declines, or doesn't sleep over), what do I make of that? If she does sleep over (fingers crossed!), what do I make of that? Is she as serious about me as I am about her? How do I know? Sometimes she looks at me with an intensity that scares the living daylights out of me; like this afternoon, when I walked her to her car, and she brushed a hand against my face... all the time giving me that "I could devour you right now!" look...
She's got me twisted in knots! God, can't stand it when I can't think straight!
Is she for real, or am I losing it big time??
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Message posted by: virgogotme on 4/7/2006 6:47:30 AM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.69
drstr8z: I'll be 46 in SEPT, and she'll be 37 in NOV. We've already made love (date #2). If I suggest coming back to my house for a nightcap, and it doesn't go according to plan (she declines, or doesn't sleep over), what do I make of that? If she does sleep over (fingers crossed!), what do I make of that? Is she as serious about me as I am about her? How do I know?
This is a special treat to see a Virgo guy thinking out loud! Loving it. I don't see any declining on your lady's part...not after the tyrst you shared with us from the 'ahem' picnic. If she does, only thing I can think of...that time of the month? (she'll tell you) If she sleeps over, go with it buddy. Snuggle the crap out of her, wake her up mid way (crack of dawn) do it again! When she stops looking at you like she has been, then you may want to question it. I look at my guy with that look, ALWAYS for years and years, I can't help it. (he always says something about that) It's been a lifetime, I love him with everything I have. After not being able to look him in the eyes for 14 years, I swore to myself, should something separate us again, I want to remember EVERY nook & cranny about his face. My suggestion to you is in the morning (hey, I'm being optimistic) you make sure you let her know what kind of time you had with her. Don't sweat the "relationship" thing until a few more dates. Enjoy each other, feel it out and KEEP COMMUNICATING WITH HER. Do not leave her hanging. And my gosh man..HAVE A GREAT TIME! Cheers!
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Message posted by: dyrstr8z on 4/8/2006 5:08:10 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.245
. . . All Night Long!
OH... HELL... YEAH!
Date #3 between VirGuy and ScorpGal...
The last ten minutes or so before I left the house were pure torture: couldn't decide whether I should pick her up in the Jeep or the A4. Got desperate with the clock ticking down, and I flipped a quarter, and I wound up driving the car. I wore a black sportcoat, and I'll be damned if she didn't wear black too - we hadn't discussed clothes! - and when I saw this, I KNEW it was gonna be a great evening! Her dress was light and gauzy, with gold trim, and it really made a contrast with her blonde hair - she had it drawn back from her shoulders and tied with a black satin ribbon. Very understated, semi-formal, she looked like a fairy princess - but in three inch heels! Wish I'd had time to parade her in front of the guys - what eye and arm candy!
I'm so proud of her: She really held her own during dinner... I thought she might be intimidated by the place - most exclusive private club in town (and no, I'm not a member - I borrowed a buddy's card!) - I've been there a few times before, usually military functions (being an officer DOES have its perks!), so snooty waiters don't bother me... After dinner, we walked around the corner to a disco where old folks like me try to pretend it's still 1978... She's not as into the bump 'n grind as I am (got more moves than ExLax!), but we had several long slow dances that more than made up for it... She accepted my invitation to go back to my place for a nightcap (so far, everything's going according to MY PLAN), and during the drive I felt like I was on my first car date - well, maybe not that nervous, but pretty damn close!
She liked my house - gave her the nickel tour - she took her shoes off, and we sat together on the glider on my screen porch, drinking wine, yakking (we can talk about just about anything under the sun!), and I pulled her tired feet up in my lap and rubbed them - got to hear her coo for the first time - OH YEAH! I worked up to her knees, then leaned over and gave her a top-notch smooch. And thus the games began... We kissed and caressed outside for a good long while, then I stood, swept her up in my arms, and carried her to the master bedroom. Always the gentleman, I gave her an opportunity to stop me (I think I'd have gone crazy if she had!), but she didn't...
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I've said before that she's petite; well, she's the smallest woman I've ever been with - less than half my weight, and almost exactly a foot shorter than me. When she was naked, and in the middle of my king size bed, she looked like a pixie. It was both frightening and erotic as hell to see her that way! Dang it, she made me turn off the lamp on my nightstand! Not gonna get vulgar here (sorry, Strings!), but this was ten times better than the first time - and that was mind-boggling! I will say, she makes this little hoarse whimper when she peaks that gives me goose-bumps...
We slept all tangled up, and I woke up first - I've always been an early riser (in more ways than one!), and I can't think of any words to describe how she looked there against my shoulder, so I won't even try. One of those moments that make you know you're alive...
Almost screwed up: I came close to using the "L" word during the night, when I thought she was gonna say it first - instead, she said, "I LOVE IT when you do THAT!" Close call... But I did heed your advice, and I told her several times that she was the most incredible woman I'd ever met, and even once that I wanted her to BE MY LITTLE BABY (didn't give credit to Ronnie Spector at the time, but I am now!)...
I made blackberry muffins yesterday after work, so all I had to do was nuke'em while she got cleaned up (I offered to wash her back, but she declined - there's that unpredictable, but insanely attractive, modesty again!), and make my world famous Deutschland cafe - very low-stress breakfast! She made it very hard (watch it, Strings!) to concentrate on the meal, though, sitting across from me in my own white terricloth short robe... may never wash it again!
Assessment of Date #3: Overall=9.7 / Dinner=9.6 / Dancing=9.3 / Romance=9.5 / Sex=9.9 / Morning After=9.7 - all close enough to 10 for me!
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Three years later: We're married, and we have a set of Scorpio Twins who'll be 2 in November...
The very best years of my life - and I never even saw them coming...
Typical Virgo.
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For Scorpio Women who weren't on DXP back in 2006: These posts are glimpses into Virgo In Love -- completely out of his friggin' mind. Compare these to what I post now, as a Domestic Virgo -- much closer to my pre-Debra self...
If you think the VirGuy is driving you nucking futz, rest assured, you're having the same affect on him...
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The thing I see with you DY is that you were totally interested in this woman, there was not this pull push, maybe, I'm scared of a relationship vibe going on, you were completely open to exploring SOMETHING with her, yet it seems these men aren't even open to the possibility, they collapse as soon as emotions surface...Maybe you can shed some light on this kind of push pull shut down dynamic for the women who are being driven nutz over this craziness. Also could it be that age played a huge part in you being ready? I would say yes but maybe you have another way of explain were you were at emotionally at the age of 46, the age dynamic could be part of the reason this went so well, along with chemistry, attraction and timing.
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tiki33: Also could it be that age played a huge part in you being ready?
Yes. I've written before that I would not have tried with a woman like Debra in my 20s or 30s -- I was TOO VIRGO at that age. Too scared to step outside my comfort zone.
It can take us Virgos YEARS to realize that the best things in life can't be planned or anticipated.
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Here's a paradox of Virgo: The more you affect us, the more likely we are to back away from you.
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Honestly: At that time, back in 2006, I couldn't accept that a woman like Debra could be interested in me.
When a Virgo creates excuses or rationalizations for not getting involved with a particular woman, it's really a reflection of his own insecurities. (I can almost hear other VirGuys trying to deny it!)
VirGuys, let's be honest on this anonymous forum: When a truly Hot Chick acts interested in you, what's the first thought that crosses your mind? I'm not worthy! Am I right?? Yes, I am!
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IMHO, Scorpio Women help VirGuy overcome that reflexive self-denial...
VirGuy starts to think: This awesome woman is interested in me, so I must be SOMETHING...
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Dyar --
Thank you for sharing your past notes on your first times with Debra.
I joined DXP beginning of August '07. Ever since thereafter, I don't think I missed any of your Debra stories. I read them with great pleasure, moreso, for its validation of how magical a Virgo Man's love can turn out to his Scorpio Woman. Seeing the differences in each other makes it even more intruiging of how everything can come together in a big great chemistry and compatibility. I understand it is not always La-La Land, but it has its magic.
Your narration brought back quite some memories to me with regards to the last Virgo Man I dated. I compared notes and they pretty much fill in all the puzzles in terms of V-man's interest in me. I have no doubt he loved me. The only exception is the part with the "L" word though; I was the first one to say. He said it immediately right after me, but later denied after the second time, turning it into a "I don't love you, but I like you a lot" phrase, then followed by all the craziness of his words conflicting his actions and vice versa. He turned into a 'nuckin fuz' as you describe it so humorously. It would have been interesting to read also Debra's views of those times... smile

I can see your age played a role, but I am also sure that your past experience with women ripened you more to identify your feelings for Debra and to step up to the "challange" of "I'm not worthy" of her. I think this is important, because in my case, Virgo Man kept on telling me how emotionally screwed up he was due to his past relation with his ex Scorpio leaving him very unexpectedly. Even after 13 years he felt strongly of her change-of-mind. I used to observe his eyes tearing and his face expressing pain and anger despite the length of time that had past.

I admit that I didn't make matters easy either; I started getting impatient and worn out of his insecurities and ended things by blaming him. We ended up in this strange knot. It never officially ended, so I don't know how things are with him.

Am planning for a visit one day. The thought scares me immensely; it gives me butterflies even thinking about it. But, it is due to You and other Virgo male friends, that I want to take this step, because even after 9 months, I cannot seem to forget about him.






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this story just makes me feel all warm & fuzzy inside. smile (even though i'm neither a scorpio nor a virgo.)
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FUM: It would have been interesting to read also Debra's views of those times...
I doubt that'll ever happen - she thinks we're all silly for talking about astrology, and she really has almost zero interest in discussions on web forums no matter what the topic...
But when I told her about DXP, she checked in occasionally, and even had me print out some of my romantic posts - keeps them with the love letters, so that must mean something...
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wheels: this story just makes me feel all warm & fuzzy inside.
Aaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!
Well, love is a splendid thing, and it should warm the heart...
Even us robotic Virgos can get all fired up about it...
Like I say, I don't see much of the Real / Normal Me in many of those early months on DXP, and that's the point: If you think your VirGuy isn't as messed-up by romance as you are, then you're wrong.
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A great tale...although, you lost me at no condom.
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LM: you lost me at no condom
You'd have to know Debra to understand...
The condom meant: 1. I wasn't sure I was STD-free; or, 2. I wasn't sure she was STD-free. Either way, it was insulting to her, and I understand why -- she chose me, which means she trusts me, and I should trust her...
Makes more sense to me now than it did in 2006...
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I love his story as well, but it kind of give women false hope, the key to DY is he was relationship ready, which means he was open, totally available, non-resistant, ready, juicy and primed to be plucked...age and timing played a huge factor...many times we are not choosing relationship ready men and this is the brunt of our problems.
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tiki33: age and timing played a huge factor...
Yes, for both of us.
many times we are not choosing relationship ready men and this is the brunt of our problems.
Yes; and, as I've written before, many women have no idea what it is they really want/need in a man for a serious long term relationship. And, if you think the Man is gonna know what you need, forget it. Even if he tries to understand, it probably won't matter.
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Honestly, Debra didn't make a logical choice when she picked me...
I was 9 years older, getting ready to move out of the city she grew up in, and my personality at work (where she knew me) is strong - I have a reputation for being a bullish know-it-all who won't back down when I think I'm right (big surprise!). Shit! I was even a bit of an asshole to her on one occasion!
She felt an attraction, and she acted on it. That's the way she is. The timing was sheer dumb luck. Yeah, as she got to know me, she got confirmation of her gut instincts about me. And, as I started to respond with so much intensity, we both kinda spiraled into a hot & heavy romance at a faster pace than I'm comfortable with -- hence, my very first Debra Post about Scorpio - Virgo relationship pacing...
She rushed me along for months, and I can see it clearly in those early posts. If I'd been 10-20 years younger, I would've put the brakes on her, and she would've resented it, and the whole thing may have blown up...
The Virgo Way is to stay at a safe distance, observe and analyze, and only start to move closer if there's a mutual attraction, positive signals from the woman, and an honest assessment that there's potential...
That's what I meant about The Paradox: Strong feelings early on make us nervous, and when we get nervous, we want to pull back and regain control of ourselves... Takes an older and/or more secure Virgo to say, "Fuck it! I'm going for it!" That's not our nature, but we can surprise folks sometimes -- even ourselves -- by what we're capable of...
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Dy,
Thank you for sharing your story. It is so romantic and sweet. It gives me hope for me and my Virgo. However, I do realize that age and maturity have a lot to do with this type of thing. Non the less, I am happy to hear that things worked out so splendidly with you and Debra!!
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Wow. Inspiring. smile
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