Generosity .....

... asks nothing in return, and has no expectations.


That seems to be a misunderstanding to some Virgos in here. If you do something for somebody, like a good deed, and you do this because you want to be nice for another ... then you can't have any expectations on the reciever .. none.

Because if you do, if you do expect them to have gratitude .. then it wasn't a selfless good deed .. it was in place to get congratulated for doing something for them.


It appears to me that there is a Virgo, or two in here that think if they do something for another, then they are suppose to have appreciation for it, and if they don't get appreciated then they are being taken advantage ..... and that would be selfish.

A good deed of generosity only exists if you ask, want, need nothing in return.

Please stfu already.

And go back to your own board.

Having a Virgo guy skeet in your eyes doesn't make you an honorary one.

We've already told you to stop trying to "lead" us.

Your life is sh1t, work on that first.

And another show of hypocrisy--if anyone on these boards doesn't kiss your hairy ass when you give your crap advice, and has the NERVE not to lick your balls after every unwanted 2 cents you try to throw at everyone, you turn psycho fish on them.

Seriously, just sit down and shut the fck up already.

I just can't get over how smart you are! Words of wisdom......

The sad part is the hypocrisy.

This is in reference to the thread I posted, where I did a favor for a young lady stranded out in the cold at night, who then took advantage of my genorisity by EXPECTING me to do this every night.

NOWHERE in my thread did I say I wanted thanks for it. In fact, I said I REFUSED the money she tried to give me, so I'm confused as to where this dumb rat is getting that I expected any sort of golden statue erected in my honor.

Reading is fundamental, vieja.

Posted by CLCNY30
The sad part is the hypocrisy.

This is in reference to the thread I posted, where I did a favor for a young lady stranded out in the cold at night, who then took advantage of my genorisity by EXPECTING me to do this every night.

NOWHERE in my thread did I say I wanted thanks for it. In fact, I said I REFUSED the money she tried to give me, so I'm confused as to where this dumb rat is getting that I expected any sort of golden statue erected in my honor.

Reading is fundamental, vieja.

Maybe she is refering to the fact that you put your story out there, while you recieved recognition for it from everyone reading the thread (?). That is wonderful what you did, but when you have people analyzing you to the bone in the manner in which she is, then what you "meant" to do is going to be taken in a different direction. You know how it is when people are waiting in the sidelines just to see you mess up so that they can rant about it. You probably weren't looking for people to say, "Wow, you're so generous" or "What a good deed" but that is what it might have come across as, to her.

Bottomline is she keeps hiding in wait, just like a sewer rat, waiting for the day she'll catch me off gaurd and I won't defend myself. It will never happen. Even with PMS, the flu, a headache, and an inner ear infection, I can take you on with no issues. You run when you see that I'm not backing down, you do it every time. You can't control the Virgo at home, yet you try to control the Virgos here? You're a retard.

It's pretty obvious to just about every Virgal on this board that she's jealous of us, and wishes she WERE one of us, just so she could get some nookie from the imaginary hubby.

I told you back in MY thread, and I'll tell you in YOUR pathetic little one here--you can't control us. Stop seeking to, and put that effort into getting laid. You might have better results. Lots of booze will be required on their part, but that's neither here nor there, the point is you'll release some of that tension.

Just a suggestion--please do take my ending phrase of "get fcked" as advice, and not an insult.

...Well, okay, you can take it as an insult too 😉

No thanks necessary 😄 I give that advice out of generosity that I don't expect recognition for.

Virgos = selfless. Yay Virgos!

I have touched on this before. I can't help but think that since we try to analyze most angles of everything, when it comes to expectations of reciprosity or acknowledgement for good deeds done, inevitably the mere "thought" of doing this selfishly always comes up. And after even entertaining the thought of doing these good deeds for ourselves, a natural feeling of guilt arises, whereas if we never even thought about those thoughts, we could sit feeling a little more selfless about our generous actions. THis kinda puts me in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario. And since I naturally feel guilty about thinking those thoughts, I believe in a reason rooted in religious beliefs, that we are all naturally sinners and we must accept that.

On the other hand, Kaballah has a unique way of explaining how to deal with those feelings.

Posted by CancerMoon
In my experience this is a Pisces trait. I've got around 50 + Pisces in my family and whenever they do something good they expect you to applaud them.

I agree though, lol

Gonna apply my inner monologue of nothing but questions to the topic at hand.

"Does it matter? Isn't somebody getting pleased out of this situation? Is it so bad of a person to expect something in return? What good comes out of calling somebody out on their intentions behind generous acts? What is THAT person adding to the situation by making somebody feel guilty for their actions? Is there good behind it? Is there bad behind it? If one person gives and one receives but the giver becomes chastised for their intentions then was the good action worth doing in the first place? Why do good at all? Are we even capable of acting 100% selflessly?"

Of all people to go instructing US on generosity! Pppffffttt!

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Posted by CancerMoon
In my experience this is a Pisces trait. I've got around 50 + Pisces in my family and whenever they do something good they expect you to applaud them.

wow, 50 Pisces?


What are the odds that your people are Pisces at 100 percent ratio .... there are 12 signs, law of average would dictate that a Pisces hits 1/12 .... that would mean you are talking about 600 family members.


With all that fucking, it's amazing you even have time to eat and shit, much less post on a forum.

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN

"Does it matter? Isn't somebody getting pleased out of this situation? Is it so bad of a person to expect something in return? What good comes out of calling somebody out on their intentions behind generous acts? What is THAT person adding to the situation by making somebody feel guilty for their actions? Is there good behind it? Is there bad behind it? If one person gives and one receives but the giver becomes chastised for their intentions then was the good action worth doing in the first place? Why do good at all? Are we even capable of acting 100% selflessly?"

Welcome back .. nice to see sanity on the Virgo board for a change. You should stick around for awhile.


You're right about somebody gets something good out of it ... however, it appears that the giver reserves the right to bitch about the other person not reciprocating in the manner in which was expected, and that isn't acceptable.

If you (the giver) do something for somebody, calling it helping out of goodness of your heart .... then you have to accept the consequences that the other person might not appreciate it, and might use you .... without complaint.

How dare you call me sane! 😉 I've worked hard for my awkwardly cooky self-label.

Did you read what I posted earlier before the content you quoted? Or my "Questions" thread? I was touching on "Ignorance is bliss" when it comes to one analyzing their true intentions. If the thought of me doing an act selfishly even creeps into my brain then I feel naturally guilty about said act of kindness; completely obliterating my original plan to do something out of the kindness of my heart. So begs the question, "Are we even capable of aiding others selflessly"

Also see my vid on Ego.

All I'm saying is it although it isn't right, it is 100% natural to expect reciprocation, gratitude, acknowledgement for a good deed. We give somebody a ride who is in need hoping, praying that they will learn from the situation and be better prepared for the next time. Who in their right mind DOESN'T feel the slightest bit used when the receiver doesn't plan ahead and requires your help over and over again. I'm just pointing out that everybody on the planet should feel some degree of slighted. Because it is natural. It is part of our programming to receive. We can try and try and try to be more like the creator, with the end result being much more good deeds being done, but it's just plain natural to feel the need for payback in some way shape or form.

No, I didn't see those. I will look for them tomorrow ... Mr. Virgo and I hit the sack around this time **** yawns ****


Why did you leave? Hope it wasn't what I said to you. If I get obnoxious, just tickle me .. I usually fall over giggling.


Giving selflessly is possible .... but, the perception has to change from expecting gratitude, to finding joy in their happiness.

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN

... it is 100% natural to expect reciprocation, gratitude, acknowledgement for a good deed. We give somebody a ride who is in need hoping, praying that they will learn from the situation and be better prepared for the next time. Who in their right mind DOESN'T feel the slightest bit used when the receiver doesn't plan ahead and requires your help over and over again.

I don't feel that way ... I don't do that.

Referencing the help over and over again ..... if a person requires me to bend over backwards for them and is calling it .... a favor .... this is when my sensibilities kick in to tell me I'm being used and I grow a pair of balls and say "no". I don't continue to do it, and then expect people to have to listen to me be pissy because I feel taken for granted.


There's a difference between helping and being a sucker.


If I'm helping a person who is in true need ... then I don't feel anything in terms of expecting anything in return ... not even a thank you.

However, I also am a person with practical sense and won't go rushing to the aid of someone who isn't a valueble person in my life ... like some random person standing on the sidewalk who is perfectly capable of fending for themselves.

In one breath you did call me a nobody, and now I'm being welcomed back. Although I was initially hurt, I got over it. But no I didn't leave because of the comment. It was a combination of me trying to take some time to uncover some of the unknowns about myself in an effort to figure out why my seemingly perfect relationship with such a great gal failed, and the swimming pool business got crazy busy.

I still wish you would break me down and give me what I should be focusing my efforts on, but you've made it clear that I am both an emotionally abusive person and a nobody. Maybe I should crawl somewhere and die lol.

If a person is capable of helping themselves and asks you to do somethign for them that isn't your responsibility, but, you would feel bad for them if you didn't help them ... then it no longer becomes doing something for the other person ... and has become doing it for yourself because you would feel bad if you didn't.


Understand that difference ... because that is where the point of my whole thread comes into play.

I'm sorry 😢

Listen .. just because I got pissed off at you, and I was angry at you, doesn't mean it changes how I feel about you. You are one of the few in here who are actually good people, and I am sincerely sorry that I was such a bitch that day.


I didn't call you a nobody .. did I? I'm sorry, you know damn well that I never meant it.


Though, you have to admit that hanging out of the window to clap your hands at fat people jogging is pretty harsh.

All Virgos are emotionally abusive in my opinion ... so what else is new?

I've told the same thing to Geminis, Scorpios, and well, that's all.


Pisces are perfect, though, of course.

I will help you with your girl, well your ex girl.


One thing I know even before you tell me anything about it, because all people do it no matter when they were born ..... relationships fail because people seek attention within the love, rather than live for the love.


PM and we can talk about it .. there are too many vultures in here.


I have to go to bed now .... hubby has turned on my rainstorm tape, so I have to go now.


Good night.

Lol @ the only vulture in here finally leaving.

Posted by P-Angel
All Virgos are emotionally abusive in my opinion ... so what else is new?

I've told the same thing to Geminis, Scorpios, and well, that's all.


Pisces are perfect, though, of course.

Hmmmmmm...where did I see the perfect response to this?...AH, yes!

Posted by P-Angel



lol, looks like the sucker is trying to implicate others based on thier sun sign ... misery hates being alone, and if she believes that Pisces and "perfect" are one in the same, because they both begin with the letter P, then I guess she should throw "pathetic", "prunefaced", and "pitiful" in the mix for her sign as well.

Just when you think it can't get any better ... she opens her mouth again.

click to expand

The hypocrisy just never stops.

Ole girl turns into quite the ball licking wh0re when a Virgo man even stares in her direction I see.

Suddenly, the same Virgo she insulted in another thread is her bestie.

Your life = sad, P-nis. Go listen to your rainstorm tape, and dream of the days you spend haunting the sewers.

lol it would be nice to get a good ball-licking, just like the old days. mmmmmm

And hey, I listen to a rainstorm tape. Don't be hatin 😉

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
And hey, I listen to a rainstorm tape. Don't be hatin 😉

But you're also 100% genuine, loving, and sweet. That doesn't change about you--you are constant.

She's a hateful slore, and the tapes do nothing to mellow her. She seriously needs to just slip some sleeping pills into his damn food, and get it when he's unconscious.

Posted by OP3CRIMSIN
lol it would be nice to get a good ball-licking, just like the old days. mmmmmm

Keep batting your eyelashes at her, and you've got yourself a Pisces bonafide deal.

As much as she claims to detest the sign, it seems to have the control over her she can't manage to use on IT.

How weak.

She was joking people. You know, when she said that pisces are perfect (and I'm not being funny). Come on....you have to start catching on.

Behind every joke lies the truth. Anyone on here who knows her knows she truly believes that.

CLC as much as her messages aren't delivered in the nicest way, and most have to use a P-Angel decoder ring if you want to understand them, most of the time they are there. Nobody's chastising you over the actual act of helping someone in need, she pointed out that if it was a true selfless intention, you wouldn't be on here telling everyone how unappreciative she was and how used you were. But I understand the need to do so. This forum is just like hanging out with friends and telling them stories about how your day went. I also pointed out that I feel the need for reciprocation is underlying in everybody, at least in some degree so while it isn't right to want something in return, it is natural.

If Pisces supposedly live in reality, people shouldn't need a decoder ring to decipher their filthy utterances. She speaks to people in ways that she, herself, cannot handle. That is hypocrisy, and I don't have time for it. Oh, I won't knock you and Pmerc for trying to speak for her--have fun with that, but I'm not going to defend making a post on here. People do it every day. I tried to share an experience I went through, plain and simple. There was no need for praise, and there was CERTAINLY no need for her back and forth in that thread. In one breath, she claimed I was prejudice to note the woman's appearance upon first glance/in the next breath she claimed I should have went with my prejudices. In one breath, I should have just done the favor out of the kindness of my heart and not to expect anything in return (which I made perfectly clear was not my intention)/in the next breath, I should never have done the favor. YOU two go ahead and make excuses for a 52-year-old poor excuse for a human being. Me? I'm going to see through her little act, silently applaud her husband for keeping her tethered without having to lay the pipe in the swamp, and NOT make excuses for a woman grown enough to know better than to treat others in a manner of treatment she wouldn't accept for herself.

Posted by Scorporella
They won't catch on, they are too intent on hating.

I'm amazed at P-Angel's strength and power (and I'm not being sarcastic here). I've seen her say things, in which I know she is merely attempting to antagonize someone, and she is usually successful at it. It truly doesn't bother her when people come at her in the way that some do, because she is getting exactly the reaction from them that she originally set out to get, months or even years previously. I tell my children the way to beat a bully is to not give that bully the reaction they are looking for. A bully bullies because they expect and want a certain reaction from the one they are bullying. Their behavior is reinforced by getting that reaction. As long as they continue to get the reaction, they continue to behave in the way they behave. However, if you stop reacting to the bully, after a little while, the bully is no longer having his actions reinforced and he/she will stop and move on to someone else, because you are showing you are stronger than the bully by not reacting to them. It is in our reaction to situations and people that we either show our strength or weakness, and imho, it takes a stronger person to remain calm and peaceful in adverse situations. Weaker people tend to react much more easily and in more negative ways. Though, that is just my opinion and it could be wrong, but that has been my experience.

She's already said in this thread she'd have left that woman out in the cold. That's hateful to me. But you see what you want to see if it works for you.

She's a disgusting soul, I really don't care who wants to pretend there's a beating heart under there. The only way to get her to smile at you is to do what she claims should NOT need to be done in this very thread--to applaud, praise, and worship someone for a favor or compliments.

This very thread, in and of itself, it just another taste of her hypocrisy.

But you 3 go ahead and keep erecting a statue in her honor. I'll just be over here waiting to knock it down when you're done.

BTW, Scorpella--I hope you're there with such protective words towards the young girls she tells to go kill themselves, calls wh0res for innocent mistakes they are making during their youth (which are more than understandable), amongst the other TRULY hateful things she spits at people coming here for help.

If not, then the fact that you chose not to defend those under 20, but have to stand up for a 52-year-old disproves your theory on her being strong, and the funny thing is YOU'RE helping to disprove it.

Kudos.

She'll say what she says regardless.

People ignore her on here, and she continues on with her childish rants.

People laugh at her, and she continues on with her childish rants.

People fight back, and she continues on with her childish rants.

We have nothing to do with her level of insanity. It's actually people like you 3 feeding into her sickness that help fuel it, so--once again, kudos!

Posted by Scorporella
Ahhh, so because I comment upon her ability to generate such strong reactions in people, you have to question my integrity and whether I am protective of others? See? She generates a strong reaction in you, so much so, that if anyone says anything that you may even perceive to be positive towards her, you have to then question the integrity of the person stating it. (Guilty by association, so to speak?) I don't truly associate with P-Angel, and I'm not defending her. I'm merely commenting upon the observation that when she types something, people react strongly, almost every time she types something. It's amazing to watch and shocking at the same time.

The only thing shocking is the fact that she's telling young girls they never should have been born for seeking help on an issue with a guy they made a wrong move with, and you're dismissing her comment to them. Kids are not as strong as they used to be back in the day. Every week there are stories of young girls committing suicide over hateful words, yet you defend a 52-year-old woman's words of hatred TOWARDS said young girls.

If you see no problem in that, then no worries.

Real question is, why are you letting MY words get to YOU?

If you feel you are right and I am wrong, shrug your shoulders and keep on moving.

It's obvious we don't agree, so why continue to respond?

And, before I go, the next time you hear of one of these tragic stories of kids being bullied and taking their own lives, please don't feign shock and mutter lies about your heart going out to their families. Not when you're helping to fuel one of the very monsters that drive innocent souls to do such an extreme act.

She's a digusting human being, and I'm glad you approve. Have fun with her statue.

Posted by Scorporella
CLCY - No, it's people like you. Dy has posted a copy of a private message from P-Angel in which she admits she likes getting this kind of reaction from people, it is fun to her. So as long as she continues to get this kind of reaction from people (which she obviously will) she will continue to antagonize others because it's fun for her. But again, she elicits such a strong reaction in you that if you even think anyone is defending her, they are suddenly called into question. I would really have to look at why someone generated that kind of response in me (if it were me, but it's not). If someone creates that kind of response within me, then they are obviously triggering something in me that I need to look at. But again, that's me, not you. I'm just saying, you really respond aggressively towards her.

I really could care less what's fun to her. I have PM's as well telling me she's a bonafide schizo who has multiple accounts on here, and creates havoc for fun. For the last time, kudos on defending her behavior. And, if you think I go to bed at night mulling over her existance, I have news for you--when this computer shuts off, I'm back to real life thoughts. She's not real. This isn't who she is in her real life. It's who she wishes she were. I'm sure she's that little old woman that waves to kids riding by on their bikes, and bakes cookies for church functions -- all the while, the people around her never knowing what's really lying behind that yellowed smile. She's sick in the head. Don't kid yourself that anyone walks away from this computer and dreams about her. That's all you.

And you're damn right I respond aggressively towards her--she's a bully. I could care less what she says to me, I'm grown and probably make more in a year than she's made in her lifetime. Screw that. But when I see her beating up on people in pain, seeking help--especially the very young, I refuse to pat her on the back for "being strong" with her hatred. I can walk away from her words with a whistle, and a skip to my step. Those poor lost souls might be the next victim to take their life on the news the next day. So you continue to praise her hateful strength, and I'LL continue to defend those who truly need understanding.

Oh sweetie, trust that I brush this b1tch off my shoulders every time I log off. The only way I'd give a damn about a thing she says enough to see her in my dreams and hunt her down is if she messed with my 401K. Other than that? These are words on a screen.

Oh, would ya look at that *logging off*, *brush brush*

You have a good night as well.

Generosity..... would be taking your own advice spewed all over the boards and taking your own life... slowly.

Posted by Scorporella
BTW, I didn't praise her "strength" at all. I merely said I am amazed by it. I went on to define that strength as her ability to generate such strong reactions from people. If people stop reacting so strongly, she loses her strength and power over them. So, for whatever reason, you choose to react in a negative way towards anyone you perceive (even wrongly perceive) as defending her. That's cool. Keep doing what you're doing. I will continue to be amazed that she holds that kind of power over you to get you to react so strongly every time she posts. (Being amazed doesn't always indicate a positive response, one can watch in bewilderment or perplexity. And that is exactly how I feel when I see it, perplexed amazement.)

I see that you and I are on the same page.

CLC please don't lump me. You know I love everyone on here and try to keep that applicable to the real world as well. I step back and see it for what it is. She is a puppet master and whatever she wants someone to type on the computer screen she has the power to evoke that reaction. Granted, I STRONGLY disagree with two things she has said in response to people on here, but I try to look through her words and still stay open to all people's advice, the good and the bad, the harsh and the buttered-up.

Posted by Scorporella

I would really have to look at why someone generated that kind of response in me ... If someone creates that kind of response within me, then they are obviously triggering something in me that I need to look at.

That is a topic I've brought up to the Gemini's a couple years ago .. I might have asked some Virgos this also ..... and of course, instead of getting it, they percieved it to mean exactly what the question was.


I asked them ..... Gems are always talking about how people hate them, and are jealous of them ..... and perhaps this is so, but, do you ever want to consider why? It's one thing if it's just me giving you shit, or several .... but, everybody? Why would everyone feel animosity towards you, and wouldn't you want to know why?


https://www.dxpnet.com/opinion/gemini/why-1030321/

There is a link to a thread I made, and in it I have quoted a Gemini who out-of-nowhere made a thread to talk about how people hate Geminis ... this wasn't in retaliation toward anybody. It was a comment made randomly. And this lead me to ask the questions.

For a Gemini to have on their mind that this is how they are percieved enough to make a comment addressing it without being prompted means that this a thorn in the side for them .... so then, why don't they care to ask themselves why it exists?

Posted by P-Angel

..... instead of getting it, they percieved it to mean exactly what the question was.

I meant to say ... they percieved it to mean the opposite of the question.



tsk

Anyway, back to topic.


Let's use a situation : let's say a person called you late at night to go pick them up because they are stranded. So, that is the generous deed in question. Do you go pick them up? And if you do, are you expecting anything in return? Or, do you "think" nothing of it because you are doing a favor?


1. Do you get out of bed to go pick up a person? NO, you don't. You go pick up a relative or a friend, or a lover .. but, just a person who just happens to be 1 of hundreds you walk past in a hallway is just a random person.

If you are on the street and see a person in need, and help them .. they don't even know you, so why would you expect somethign from them? To even think that gratitude or some kind of reciprocation is in order is insane on your part.

A random person doesnt' owe you anything .... if you go out late at night to go pick a peron up who isn't a part of your life, who isn't important enough to you to do this deed .. then you do it at your own risk of hurt feelings if you think something should be owed to you in return.


So, let's say that you would feel if you didn't go and pick this person up .. so, that's on you. It then changes from doing a favor, to settling your own feelings of feeling bad. You didn't have to go do it, and the person isn't even a part of your life ... you do it for YOU.



Referencing OP3 last night ... he says if the person asks again and again .... they are only asking again because you were sucker enough to do it the first time. No.


Bottom Line: If you cannot say "no" when you are suppose to .. then that's your fault, and not the person who's smarter than you in the realization of who is the sucker.

And what about 52 year old bullies caring to ask themselves WHY they antagonize people just for fun?

The shit goes both ways.

Is it not only fair if you are asking others to look inside of themselves that you not take a look inside the mirror too?

So we've got a double standard now? I see!

I understand what's being said about not allowing someone to have power over/invoke a strong reaction in you but, when

people CLOWN HER ASS right back (and many times deservedly so) - they are being told that they are aggressive and weak.

LMAO @ THE FACT that SHE can constantly harass, belittle, toy with, antagonize, disrespect, chastise, talk down to, offend, and diss, demean, etc., anyone she pleases, and then when somebody GIVES IT BACK to her flatscreen TV ass, triple times three, folks get all up in arms. LMMFAO!

Lol--stop tryna make sense, Vvxxx. They'll never get it.

At the end of the day, people thought Hitler and Charles Manson were absolutely brilliant. Never mind the minds and lives they destroyed. Absolutely disgusting. But let them think they're reaching nirvana in here, and transcending heights the rest of us could never fathom. This thread is so full of itself its head is stuck up its own ass.