How playing dumb can affect Ur success with women

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by virgoking on Friday, August 8, 2014 and has 21 replies.
I just read this article and it really resonated with me because I have done some of these things. It really should be called life as a virgo man lol http://elitedaily.com/dating/gentlemen/why-being-intelligent-affects-your-success-with-women/
This one stood out to me
Reason 2: You find it hard or impossible to relate to women less intelligent than you.
I??ve got nothing against women, but it seems that the hotter they are, the dumber they are. This is probably due to the fact that early on in life, they realized their looks were a fantastic asset and didn??t bother to work on their intellect.
In any case, if you??re a smart guy, you??re going to have a very hard time relating to such women. Why? Well it??s probably because her favorite conversation topics will be work gossip, shopping, what happened on Kim Kardashian??s show, etc. Sadly, these topics are not going to fuel your analytical mind, but more likely, damage it. This also means that you??re conversation subjects are going to put her to sleep, making your whole interaction with her quite difficult.
It??s a common misconception that intelligent guys find it easy to sleep with stupid girls. This couldn??t be more wrong. Actually, intelligent women are much easier to sleep with because you can have meaningful conversations, relate to them and easily impress them with your intellect and knowledge. They??re also going to be more free spirited and less influenced by their friends, which tends to mean more one night stands. On the other hand, less intelligent girls are easily impressed by good looks and drama.
So how can you deal with this? Well again, it all depends on your desires. If you absolutely must sleep with this girl, then you have to ACT. Act interested in her conversations, boast about your success, your car collection, and tell her what she wants to hear. A long-term relationship is probably NOT going to blossom here, so lying and pretending is what you need to do in order to get your way.
But if you play dumb to be successful with women, you're going to continue to be disappointed in finding someone for a long term relationship. You're not going to be happy with any woman you date. Besides, the more dumb chicks you date, the less likely a smart woman will be attracted to you.
Still better to be yourself and find someone perfect for you.
I find it funny to find an article like this directed to men, advising men to play dumb. Women have dealt with the issue all our lives. 'men don't like smart girls' momma said. Momma was wrong!
Posted by truecap
But if you play dumb to be successful with women, you're going to continue to be disappointed in finding someone for a long term relationship. You're not going to be happy with any woman you date. Besides, the more dumb chicks you date, the less likely a smart woman will be attracted to you.
Still better to be yourself and find someone perfect for you.
I find it funny to find an article like this directed to men, advising men to play dumb. Women have dealt with the issue all our lives. 'men don't like smart girls' momma said. Momma was wrong!

Your absolutely correct when I was younger I had this mind set. my mind set now is I will do what ever I like To do I do not need to conform to said rule basically just be me. But I did think the article is interesting.
hmmmm.....I don't think you should play dumb to be successful with women. Just be you and the right ones will find you. Actually I hate it when a guy tries sooo hard to come across as super smart, and act patronizing etc...U can be the smartest dude on earth but just don't brag about it on the first date, and there're plenty of girls who likes to be with a smart guy, believe me Winking
Well, it only takes a few minutes into a conversation to gauge a person's intelligence, and once you figure that out, you decide to continue on or move on. However, if you're in it for sex, then you're thinking with the wrong head resulting in a not so intelligent decision made by the man.
Wow @ Virgoking..have you personally entertained that many HOT GIRLS" in your young years to come up with the analogy that intelligent women are easier to sleep with resulting in more one night stands? You don't appear too be that old to have that many experiences or you just have a baby face..LOL.
Like Truecap said..it's better to be yourself and let intelligence seek you out. One should never dumb themselves down to make a point. I am a firm believer that you are what you are attract.
Posted by LIb4Life
Well, it only takes a few minutes into a conversation to gauge a person's intelligence, and once you figure that out, you decide to continue on or move on. However, if you're in it for sex, then you're thinking with the wrong head resulting in a not so intelligent decision made by the man.
Wow @ Virgoking..have you personally entertained that many HOT GIRLS" in your young years to come up with the analogy that intelligent women are easier to sleep with resulting in more one night stands? You don't appear too be that old to have that many experiences or you just have a baby face..LOL.
Like Truecap said..it's better to be yourself and let intelligence seek you out. One should never dumb themselves down to make a point. I am a firm believer that you are what you are attract.


I was referring to last part were it says just lie if you won't to just bang I don't think the intelligence of a women describe how easy she Is I have seen easy women of all stripes. I do notice older women seem to be easier i don't know if that is because if my chart. But I have notice older women giving me more looks now than women of my age or younger. It's very wired it was not like that before I got married.
Also I think the person who wrote this article was talking about women that are 10 and higher. Now as you date more attractive women they do seem dumb some are really dumb and superficial some are not and are pretending to be dumb because they think that's what men like. I don't know where that myth came from.
Posted by honeejr
Posted by virgoking
Also I think the person who wrote this article was talking about women that are 10 and higher. Now as you date more attractive women they do seem dumb some are really dumb and superficial some are not and are pretending to be dumb because they think that's what men like. I don't know where that myth came from.



Look at Society..Media...men flock to women with big boobs and butt...with all the extra's..So women see this and see what "attracts" a man and grows up with this mentality. I have my granddaughter who is 14 tell me she needs to get fake boobs...I mean really. I had a long talk with her and will continue because her feelings were what she saw around her and on TV. We need to emphasize intelligence is sexy to our young girls. Negativity is easy to spread. It is easy to maintain and easy to believe. Men need to outwardly emphasize that they actually like women who are more than just a body. Sex is in demand...it sells...if intelligence was in demand..guess what would happen? It all begins with change......
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Yes I agree with that I really believe this because before tv these stereotypes were not acceptable.
Posted by honeejr
Posted by virgoking
Also I think the person who wrote this article was talking about women that are 10 and higher. Now as you date more attractive women they do seem dumb some are really dumb and superficial some are not and are pretending to be dumb because they think that's what men like. I don't know where that myth came from.



Look at Society..Media...men flock to women with big boobs and butt...with all the extra's..So women see this and see what "attracts" a man and grows up with this mentality. I have my granddaughter who is 14 tell me she needs to get fake boobs...I mean really. I had a long talk with her and will continue because her feelings were what she saw around her and on TV. We need to emphasize intelligence is sexy to our young girls. Negativity is easy to spread. It is easy to maintain and easy to believe. Men need to outwardly emphasize that they actually like women who are more than just a body. Sex is in demand...it sells...if intelligence was in demand..guess what would happen? It all begins with change......
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I was referring to last part were it says just lie if you won't to just bang I don't think the intelligence of a women describe how easy she Is I have seen easy women of all stripes. I do notice older women seem to be easier i don't know if that is because if my chart. But I have notice older women giving me more looks now than women of my age or younger. It's very wired it was not like that before I got married.

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Well, you have to remember..MOST, not all..and let me be very clear when I say this...MOST older women (Cougars) as they are now called, know what they want most of the time. It's very possible they view younger men as boy toys, and what a young man perceive as being easy, maybe her ploy to bed him because she feels like he may not be mature enough to handle the fact that she only wants sex from him. In other words, she maybe dumb-ing herself down to preserve the young man's ego. Don't get it twisted. Believe it or not, there's a lot of women out here..especially older women who no longer want a committment or drama in their lives, so they choose younger men for one reason and one reason only. They have their own homes, cars, bank accounts, careers and everything else that goes along with the traditional role that a husband or good man used to play, but aside from that, they still need a man for other things. Well, except for the one's that have batteries (LOL). I know we as women are emotional creatures by nature, but I think they may very well be changing with women nowadays. Some women have the same mentality as men. In fact, it seems a lot of older men are now ready to settle down and the older women are looking for fun, so I dunnnoooo. Also, you may have a level maturity about yourself that attracts older women too you.
Posted by tiziani
I think the article was playing dumb. Irony. A lot of stereotypes that aren't backed up by credible experience.


LOL...Tiz, I agree...I'm sure the individual that created that site had very little to no data to backup the article, but they know there's a sucker born every minute that will buy into it without validation.
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Posted by honeejr
Some days, and I'm being candid, I really wish I was plain jane.....


No you don't sweetie. Trust me, the grass on the fug side of the fence is not greener. Stick with the dumb stereotype because there's a lot worse out there.
Posted by LIb4Life


I was referring to last part were it says just lie if you won't to just bang I don't think the intelligence of a women describe how easy she Is I have seen easy women of all stripes. I do notice older women seem to be easier i don't know if that is because if my chart. But I have notice older women giving me more looks now than women of my age or younger. It's very wired it was not like that before I got married.

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Well, you have to remember..MOST, not all..and let me be very clear when I say this...MOST older women (Cougars) as they are now called, know what they want most of the time. It's very possible they view younger men as boy toys, and what a young man perceive as being easy, maybe her ploy to bed him because she feels like he may not be mature enough to handle the fact that she only wants sex from him. In other words, she maybe dumb-ing herself down to preserve the young man's ego. Don't get it twisted. Believe it or not, there's a lot of women out here..especially older women who no longer want a committment or drama in their lives, so they choose younger men for one reason and one reason only. They have their own homes, cars, bank accounts, careers and everything else that goes along with the traditional role that a husband or good man used to play, but aside from that, they still need a man for other things. Well, except for the one's that have batteries (LOL). I know we as women are emotional creatures by nature, but I think they may very well be changing with women nowadays. Some women have the same mentality as men. In fact, it seems a lot of older men are now ready to settle down and the older women are looking for fun, so I dunnnoooo. Also, you may have a level maturity about yourself that attracts older women too you.

Very true I just think it's funny because I still look the same I think it's my energy even though I am divorce and can do what ever I want. I some time feel guilty like I'm still married or something just weird. I would say I'm mature and some areas and other places I'm very immature I say once I am 30 I will be where I need to be. I was also wondering if my cap moon could be attracting them hummm I will have to look into it.
Posted by LIb4Life


I was referring to last part were it says just lie if you won't to just bang I don't think the intelligence of a women describe how easy she Is I have seen easy women of all stripes. I do notice older women seem to be easier i don't know if that is because if my chart. But I have notice older women giving me more looks now than women of my age or younger. It's very wired it was not like that before I got married.

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Well, you have to remember..MOST, not all..and let me be very clear when I say this...MOST older women (Cougars) as they are now called, know what they want most of the time. It's very possible they view younger men as boy toys, and what a young man perceive as being easy, maybe her ploy to bed him because she feels like he may not be mature enough to handle the fact that she only wants sex from him. In other words, she maybe dumb-ing herself down to preserve the young man's ego. Don't get it twisted. Believe it or not, there's a lot of women out here..especially older women who no longer want a committment or drama in their lives, so they choose younger men for one reason and one reason only. They have their own homes, cars, bank accounts, careers and everything else that goes along with the traditional role that a husband or good man used to play, but aside from that, they still need a man for other things. Well, except for the one's that have batteries (LOL). I know we as women are emotional creatures by nature, but I think they may very well be changing with women nowadays. Some women have the same mentality as men. In fact, it seems a lot of older men are now ready to settle down and the older women are looking for fun, so I dunnnoooo. Also, you may have a level maturity about yourself that attracts older women too you.


Very true I just think it's funny because I still look the same I think it's my energy even though I am divorce and can do what ever I want. I some time feel guilty like I'm still married or something just weird. I would say I'm mature and some areas and other places I'm very immature I say once I am 30 I will be where I need to be. I was also wondering if my cap moon could be attracting them hummm I will have to look into it.
Posted by virgoking

It??s a common misconception that intelligent guys find it easy to sleep with stupid girls. This couldn??t be more wrong. Actually, intelligent women are much easier to sleep with because you can have meaningful conversations, relate to them and easily impress them with your intellect and knowledge. They??re also going to be more free spirited and less influenced by their friends, which tends to mean more one night stands. On the other hand, less intelligent girls are easily impressed by good looks and drama.



less intelligent girls are easily impressed by good looks and drama. + MONEY.
Good looks can also be accompanied with intelligence.
Money can also be accompanied with intelligence.
...And drama can also be affiliated with intelligent men with good looks and money.
So it's fair to conclude that it's still a high possibility that a less intelligent woman can be drawn to a very intelligent man.

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Posted by honeejr
Well typically with me because I am good looking I automatically get put in the "shes dumb as a doorknob" category. I am an accountant, getting a degree in Psychology, play chess, know about physics, literature, etc. I get passed over by the men who I am attracted to..smart nerdy ones. I have to go chase men and that isn't in my DNA..I end up with losers who pretend they are more than they are. Then I have a situation where I need to RUN!
Thus I've been single since 07...dating here and there and recognizing these losers and not getting involved anymore. Some days, and I'm being candid, I really wish I was plain jane.....the best we can be is ourselves and trust the right person will enter our lives to enhance it.



I have never read so much BS on a post. Men don't date me cause i'm too hot.
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Honestly honeejr,
Have you considered this? The reason why men don't ask you out for many dates might be that they are somewhat intimidated by you. And I don't mean your looks. There are many good looking people who have quality relationships. Sometime we can give off a vibe that's picked up as being a negative one by those who try to interact with us. If you've had this history of trying to date guys who you think would compliment you intellectually etc. and it's not working out, perhaps it's something you're doing unintentionally????
I'm a very independent, driven and intense (i prefer to call it passionate) individual. Some people are intimidate by this. However, it's simply me being me. Men are competitive and sometimes feel threaten when a female can hang in there with them on many levels. It's not that they are weak or don't like a little challenge once in a while; it's simply in their DNA to be the alpha, the hunter.
What I found when I dated years ago prior to finding my husband; I needed to "soften up" my approach and not be so intense/competitive. I played sports and still workout vigorously. Some men, while they love a fit woman, sometimes are a little intimidated by her drive etc. Men love to compete but prefer competing with men and not a woman they want to develop an intimate relationship with.
Just my two cents. Good luck.
Well this guy has a website teaching men on how to pick up women some things are interesting I thought was on of the because I have seen this in real life.
The Main Character Types of the Women You??ll Encounter When Trying To Get Laid
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One of the first things I do when I start talking to a new woman is to judge her immediate character type.
This character type is very important because it allows me to understand what I need to say and do with this woman in order to get her attracted to me.
I generally look at women and once I see any acknowledgement sign from one, I know that I can approach her and I know for sure that she??ll fall into one of the below character types. After the initial introduction I can quickly work out which character type she falls into and then continue the interaction based on that information.
These character types only apply to the women you??re actually trying to bang. If she??s one of your friends or you have no sexual interest in her, then there??s no point in placing her into one of these categories.
So let??s get to it:
The Cold One
How She Behaves
This is the girl that is seemingly unavailable; disinterested in anything you say and doesn??t seem to give you any importance. This doesn??t necessarily mean that you can??t bang her, it??s generally a tougher time but be careful because she can be bitchy and can lash back out at you. Proceed with caution.
How To Work Her
The obvious thing to do here is to grab her attention and then get her to open up. Ideally you want to get her to work for your attention. This can be done by doing the following:
Gain The Edge ??? This can be done by raising your social status. Depending on the scenario you need to build more value to yourself, for example in a club environment you can do that by talking to OTHER women and appearing to have a pleasurable conversation. Or use one of your girlfriends to talk to her a bit. The whole point is to come across as a high status male.
Make assumptions that will get her interested ??? These should in turn make her work for your attention. You could either act amused about something that??s related to her (thus making her ask you why you are amused) or just make solid assumptions ???You look French??_girls from New York don??t dress like that??.
Start slow but touch often ??? As always touching is important but because she??s cold with you in the beginning you should NOT
Start slow but touch often ??? As always touching is important but because she??s cold with you in the beginning you should NOT overdo it as that can easily freak her out. Start slow, with a shoulder pat or so then build up by doing it more often but pay attention to her reactions.
Why Is She Cold With You
That??s her general attitude towards new men; she might automatically assumes that you??re needy since you??re approaching her and thus being turned off by that.
She might be involved with some other guy. You can quickly find that out by saying something like ???Are you this cold with your boyfriend???.
She can have completely different views from you. Religion can also have a powerful impact especially if she??s muslim or ???no sex before marriage?? type of Christian. But then again, she shouldn??t be in a club anyway.
She might have been recently dumped and has a hatred for all men. Or she might have just came out of a relationship thus not being interested in anything at the moment.
Personal Note
I generally avoid these women, even if I could maybe bang them, especially if they appear to be overly cold. The only exception would be if she is a straight 10 out of 10 in a club that has no other 10??s. Otherwise I??ll just drop her and move on. You can and will usually bang 2 other girls faster than you can a cold one.
The Warm One
How She Behaves
This girl is usually friendly, she will smile quite often, attempt to make eye contact and will generally be receptive to your conversational subjects. They reason they are wars is because they act like this but don??t show any direct signs of interest. This means you could risk losing time with a girl that is just polite and open.
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How To Work Her
Be Clear About Your Intentions ??? You??re not talking to her because you want to make a new friend, you??re talking to her because you want something more (a bang). Make sure you let her know by touching her more often, being more aggressive in your interaction, more confident and steering the conversation towards what you want.
Get Sexual As Fast As You Can ??? The more you touch her, the closer you get, the easier it will be for you to see how and if she is attracted to you. If you??re not getting positive vibes, you need to build a better connection so get back to talking about the things she loves.
Do Not Be Boring ??? Avoid boring conversational topics at all costs, keep things sexual, keep making assumptions and act playful.
Why Is She Warm With You
She??s taking her time to get to know you a little better. You see, unlike men who instantly know if they??d bang any particular woman, women need a little time, a little ???dance?? before they can make that assumption.
It??s her way of dealing with men. Just because she??s friendly that doesn??t mean shes attracted.
Personal Note
A friendly warm girl will always be easier to bang than the cold girl. It??s important to establish attraction as fast as possible and to notice if that??s impossible as early as you can within the interaction. Although the majority of these girls will eventually become attracted you need to establish that quickly in order to avoid wasting time.
The Hot One
How She Behaves
The hot one is obviously the easiest one of the 3 because she??s ???hot?? for you. There??s not much that you can do here as you can instantly notice that she??s interested in you. Just maintain good eye contact, keep the touches flowing and you??ll soon be hitting a home run.
How To Work Her
Stay Tuned With Your Sexual Side ??? Start getting physical the moment you start talking, as it will quickly put her into a sexual state. Keep the same momentum throughout the interaction until there??s absolutely no doubt in her mind that she wants to bang you
Connect With Her Emotionally ??? All this physical stuff is getting her horny but you need to control that emotional brain of hers in order to fully assure the bang. Start by talking about the things that she loves, then dive deeper into the things that she??d love to do, then even deeper about the things she??d love to do with you. She??s a sure thing so take it as far as you can.
Why Is She Hot With You
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Why Is She Hot With You
You??re only lucky bastard since you??ve approached a girl that is genuinely interested in you. You might be her type of guy, who knows, but it really doesn??t matter. She likes you and that??s it!
She might be set on banging the first dude she sees, she might just be extra frisky that night and is open to doing more adventurous things, make sure you pick up on that and use your gentle persuasion to ramp things up.
She hasn??t had sex in a long time and needs a guy to take the lead and LEAD her to a bedroom. This happens more often than you think.
Personal Note
If you approach this girl in a venue/club whatever, never leave her until it??s morning and you need to leave her house. Almost always if you meet one of these girls, things will escalate to sex. Keep that in mind and if luck has it and you meet a girl that??s instantly attracted to you, don??t let her slip away.
Next time you go out, pay close attention to a chicks character and know exactly how you??re going to proceed. That bang you??ve been waiting for is closer than you think.

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