Leo likes a Virgo (Help!)

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Hello. I am a Leo and I'm in a battle for the affection of a Virgo woman with another Leo, (my ex best friend) This Virgo woman has a small celebrity status (radio personality) and both of us work with her at the station. She has all the qualities of a Virgo woman that I have read and desire. Beauty, cleaniness, thrive for perfection--just everything positive that I want. She does have a bit of a temper when we make mistakes that might mess up her show, but I like that about her.

Anyway, the situation is that we have both been trying to get her to go out since October 2010 and she flirts with both of us and know that we are friends but won't go out unless we ALL go together. (Picture Edward, Jacob and Bella going out all the time!) Well two weeks ago her asked her out and she refused as always. Later that day I get a text message that she wants to take both me and him out to celebrate a recent promotion she got that we helped her with. I said yes again because its better than nothing because I want her so bad.

Probably too late to make a long story short but yesterday my ex best friend got terminated from the station for theft. I really don't believe it but thats another story. He confided in me the reason for discharge and of course I was the only person that really knew. A few hours ago my Virgo crush called me and asked how he was doing and said in light of things we should cancel the dinner date this weekend. I told her that I was really looking forward to it and still wanted to go. I also, as you may have guessed by now, let the reason for his termination slip. I told her that I didn't believe it and she didn't either and said that maybe we should continue the dinner date to support him. She was also a bit upset that I let the info slip. How do Virgos feel about secrets? It wasn't gossiping it was the truth. I thought she should know.

After that convo I got a text message from her a few moments ago that said "Our first task together is to help our friend get through this 🙂"! Do you guys think this means shes interested or am I reading too much into it?
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Posted by Mattofla
Could be. Might not.

I would go ahead and, if you friend wanted the dinner, go to the dinner and see where things lead. Don't be surprised if she ends up falling for your friend. Or neither of you.



Thank you for the response. Yes thats the worst case scenario if she falls for him. However there is an update, she texted me again and shes never ever done it twice without me texting her back first.

She texted "I feel bad for (ex best friend). I hope he is ok."

I texted back "Why don't you text him to see how he's doing"

She texted "No. Because you weren't supposed to tell me what happened. Thats why I'm texting you silly. I'm a little mad at you still for that. Goodnight."

Shes still upset about me telling my ex best friends business, but she appears to be flirting, right? Virgos help! Leos are so lovesick and dumb sometimes. (but painfully honest as you can tell)


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Posted by PandorasBox
LOl @ twilight reference.. Man.. That stinks.. Are you 100% sure she's single and not invitin you guys out because it has to do w/ work?

Man, you Leos are the bomb.. I retract all I said before, I had issues 😛! Lol.

Remember, keep your wits about you! Manners go a long way 🙂. I'm sure you'll handle w/o a hitch.. Just use your leonine charms and she'll be swooning in no time 😛!



Thanks. Yes, shes very single. I've known her for 4 years and she dated one guy for 2 of them and is very selective about her next person. I'm just wondering if shes mad at me for real for the information I gave out or is that just flirting? How do you Virgos feel about gossiping or in my case--me spilling the beans on someone I'm in competition with?
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So, my advice (priceless, by the way) is to wait a couple of days and get a vibe, since it already seems kinda shaky, but if you feel like she's open then ask her out (without the other dude!!!) If you're not sure, don't do it.



Thanks Catguy. Wow, you must be Mufusa on here and I must be little Simba. "Oh I just can't wait to be KING!!!!" LOL.

I don't why but with her I put the inner kitty on the lease you know. But things got interesting last night at work and I've been glowing every since! My ex best friend called me and asked me if I had told her about how he got fired. So, yeah I lied and said "No, why?" And he said because she is not responding to my texts anymore! I didn't even know HE was texting her in the first place! Cusp Leo! (Him, July - Me, August). I made sure I didn't bring up the dinner tomorrow night either and that she suggested we still go through with it. If she doesn't tell him where it is--I sure as hell won't! Bad kitty! I know!

I know she didn't tell him that I told her about the theft because she said she wouldn't and Virgos keep secrets very well. At work shes smiling at me a bit more than she used to with him not around, and she made an extra effort to make sure she brushed against me several times when I adjusted her equipment for the broadcast! Oh yeah, she wants me I know it!

Another friend at the station that knows that I want her told me that she probably thought me and my ex best friend were gay lovers or something and thats why she kept inviting us both out. She didn't want to get into the bromance. I'm really going to ask her if that was the reason tomorrow night - among other things. Or, because shes a Virgo should I take it slow? Virgos please help!
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Thanks. Yes, shes very single. I've known her for 4 years and she dated one guy for 2 of them and is very selective about her next person. I'm just wondering if shes mad at me for real for the information I gave out or is that just flirting? How do you Virgos feel about gossiping or in my case--me spilling the beans on someone I'm in competition with?
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Hey ljohnverrell,

Oh no, please, no more gossiping. Although we can be some of the biggest gossipers, we usually abhor that tendency in others (sorry, we can be a little hypocritical). We Virgals are very particular with extremely high standards and we want a man who can match our ethical/moral codes. She may have interpreted your "slip" about your ex-best friend's firing as petty and it could have very well put her off. However, there is hope and you can redeem yourself: DON'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.

We Virgals need to be able to respect a man in order for him to win our affections. We are usually pretty serious by nature and if you come across to her as foolish, a jerk, or some dumb ass, you can best believe you will not make it past the 'friend zone'. We are usually quite loyal in friendships and will take a secret of a friend to the grave so in her mind she may be thinking "now why in the hell would he share with me something that his best friend disclosed to him in confidence?".
Even if you shared it consciously or unconsciously as a way to gain greater favor in her eyes over your friend due to your interest in her (?), so far the only thing you've accomplished is making yourself seem untrustworthy.

From this point on, I would say take it slow and just be her friend. Give her time to process your ex-best friend's departure even if that means discussing him with her whenever she wants to. Be diplomatic in what you say about him. If she can view you as a stand-up, mature guy who is not putting pressure on her, she will warm up. We won't stand to be pushed into something (patience is so key with us) and we also need a mental connection. Converse with her as much as possible and show her that you have a 'mind' and if it is meant to be, one day she might just wake up and realize that you are in her heart.


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In basic temperament, Leos are just the opposite of a Virgo: Bright, sunny, warm, cheery, etc, and these are exactly the kind of traits that Virgos are attracted to in others. Leos are often great at helping Virgos relax and enjoy life, take it easy, splurge, put away our worries and partay(!), sadly, something that we Virgos are not very used to doing. Like most of us, your Virgal sounds quite obsessed with her work right now and did you ever stop to think that maybe she is totally oblivious about your affections for her? Oh yes, we usually are if you haven't stamped "I want you badly" highlighted on a post-it stuck to your forehead. This love and romance stuff can easily go right over our heads especially if we are not already dating/married but wrapped up in a career or school etc. She may take your invitations to go out after work as just that. Two co-workers going out for a drink after work, and many times we will even turn that down to do more work or run home to take a hot bubble bath or curl up with a good book. Having said that, I don't suggest you tell her straight out about your feelings for her however. Just follow my rules in paragraph 3. Good luck, ljv, and please keep us posted.

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Posted by catguy
Sorry, VV, I didn't realize the situation was so dire. With that being said, let's get things started, shall we?

First of all, my Leo brotha, Leos aren't dumb. You need to kick up your confidence. A Leo may be naive from time to time, but never dumb. It takes serious smarts to be able to masterfully "work the room." I don't ever want to hear you say that about yourself, dig?

But we do have a problem here. I mean, I've never heard of a girl, even a Virgal, flirt by mentioning another dude. What a turn-on, right? I don't care if it is work-related. Her focus, ideally, should be on you and her, not the dude who got axed (bless his soul). Hell, you should see his firing as being a blessing in diguise for you. Now you can see how she is without him around at work, look to see how her behavior changes or doesn't change.

In my experience, with the fascinating girl that is the Virgal, they are extremely focused, and they will leave no questions as to whether or not they are into you. They will, in my experience, read a lot into what you say and will jump the gun, because they are into you, and will reveal their state of mind about you without you even meaning to probe. For ex. Say, you bring up that dude that got fired, even casually, she will make it a point to separate you from him because she sees the question as having an underlying meaning. She will make it clear that he is a friend and you are a romantic interest. Actually, I'd be annoyed that she was even bringing him up to go with you guys to dinner. She may not come right out and ask you out, but she will hint quite blatantly that she wants you to ask her.

Believe me, their shit is very calculated. They are cunning and gutsy. I guarantee you, if she hints that she wants to go out with you, and you ask her out, she will already have a planned response like, "yeah, we'll do this or that" instead of the bland "yes, that would be nice." So, my advice (priceless, by the way) is to wait a couple of days and get a vibe, since it already seems kinda shaky, but if you feel like she's open then ask her out (without the other dude!!!) If you're not sure, don't do it.



Bingo! You know us so well. See, this is why I love you.
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In basic temperament, Leos are just the opposite of a Virgo: Bright, sunny, warm, cheery, etc, and these are exactly the kind of traits that Virgos are attracted to in others. Leos are often great at helping Virgos relax and enjoy life, take it easy, splurge, put away our worries and partay(!), sadly, something that we Virgos are not very used to doing. Like most of us, your Virgal sounds quite obsessed with her work right now and did you ever stop to think that maybe she is totally oblivious about your affections for her? Oh yes, we usually are if you haven't stamped "I want you badly" highlighted on a post-it stuck to your forehead. This love and romance stuff can easily go right over our heads especially if we are not already dating/married but wrapped up in a career or school etc. She may take your invitations to go out after work as just that. Two co-workers going out for a drink after work, and many times we will even turn that down to do more work or run home to take a hot bubble bath or curl up with a good book. Having said that, I don't suggest you tell her straight out about your feelings for her however. Just follow my rules in paragraph 3. Good luck, ljv, and please keep us posted.




u said it right even tho ima leo moon i can only take leos in small amounts even tho i can get along with them lol.

but i was gonna say to this dude just let it flow if it was meant to happen then so be it.
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u said it right even tho ima leo moon i can only take leos in small amounts even tho i can get along with them lol.
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Seems like you and I are always >here< as well. I do like Leos but I also find that I can only be around them but for so long. Please keep in mind that I've only had relationships with Leo women so I'm really not referring to the men because I have yet to 'experience' them. lol. Their domineering and can hold court and I like that but, sometimes Leo's first impression of the Virgin is one of weakness but they soon realize that we are just as bossy and unyielding and it can be a power struggle all the way through and after a while the shit gets tired and you just have to give it a rest.

On the flip side, I'm sure I annoyed my Leo girlfriends with my pessimism, nagging, criticism, refusal to hang out and have fun etc.
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u said it right even tho ima leo moon i can only take leos in small amounts even tho i can get along with them lol.
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Seems like you and I are always >here


awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww thanks VV i can be very logical and intelligent when i'm ready but the libra in me likes to be mentally lazy and go with the flow.

but virgos are very stubborn when they are strong fixed signs in a birth chart i been told by many i'm hard head they forget i have moon in leo stubborn to a T but very kindhearted and generous lol.
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Posted by oldskoolflavor
fighting for someone who's stringing both of you along..
or, not interested at all, and is just having fun..

yes, you need help.



I don't think shes just having fun. I think she thought I was gay because me and the other guy used to hang out a lot. But anyway, isn't that what a Virgo woman wants? Someone that is genuinely interested and will fight for her affection?
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Hey ljohnverrell,

Oh no, please, no more gossiping. Although we can be some of the biggest gossipers, we usually abhor that tendency in others (sorry, we can be a little hypocritical). We Virgals are very particular with extremely high standards and we want a man who can match our ethical/moral codes. She may have interpreted your "slip" about your ex-best friend's firing as petty and it could have very well put her off. However, there is hope and you can redeem yourself: DON'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.



Yes, miss. I hear you loud and clear. She's texted me a few times tonight and we decided on the location. She asked me if I had asked the other guy and I just came out and said "No. Can it just be us this time?". She said YES!!! 🙂
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Hello! I was just now able to add an update because me and my Virgo had a wonderful evening that lasted until just a little while ago! Yes, she spent the night! I'm kinda taken aback because I've read that Virgo girls weren't so quick to jump into an intimate relationship and she admits she's concerned because of our work arrangement, but says that if we are meant to be it will work out. She made it clear that she doesn't do one nighters even before we starting the kissing, which I said "I know, of course not." I woke up this morning to her in my kitchen cleaning it and making oatmeal fully dressed. It was the weirdest thing ever, but I'm happy about it! My ex best friend promptly texted both of us and told us where to jump off. Thanks for your help! Rooarrrr!!!
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we like to help our friends out. when a friend is in need, we drop everything and step up to help them.
she's being a good friend. when something happens that does put us down, it ruins the whole day/week
and we'll sit cancel stuff and do nothing. (If i was late to one thing i would cancel all my appts and sit and pout - thanks to my tardy scorpio ex!) Personally i find a lot of Leo's are attracted to me, but I dont like them 😢
I prefer aries for whatever reason.Leos can get too moody for me or too quiet. (though female leos i get along with great we talk about everything!) at first leo seems sweet but in the end of me its like aughhhh noooo i cant.
(leos have been kinda happy at first but then too shy n quiet) where as Im actually very optimistic - the one i find more optimistic than me in the fire signs are the Aries. if you want to intrigue her
try getting to her intellectually. if you cant catch us intellectually you wont get us in any other way not physically and not materialistically. (so far the leo's have just been trying to pay for my flights to go with them places .. one has actually more tried to bribe me into a date by trying to buy me stuff the more he tries the more i refuse lol)
dont be pushy, we like puzzles. (take hints from a gemini, gemini has always driven me insane with how much they know, how they might be interested one moment but then get or appear to be uninterested quickly) resaerch something about health or business facts, or personalities/behaviors. - best of luck!
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Hey ljohnverrell,

Oh no, please, no more gossiping. Although we can be some of the biggest gossipers, we usually abhor that tendency in others (sorry, we can be a little hypocritical). We Virgals are very particular with extremely high standards and we want a man who can match our ethical/moral codes. She may have interpreted your "slip" about your ex-best friend's firing as petty and it could have very well put her off. However, there is hope and you can redeem yourself: DON'T DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT AGAIN.



Yes, miss. I hear you loud and clear. She's texted me a few times tonight and we decided on the location. She asked me if I had asked the other guy and I just came out and said "No. Can it just be us this time?". She said YES!!! 🙂
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YAY!!!! See, we'll never steer you wrong, us Virgos. Stick with us and I tell you your ass will be going places!
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Posted by catguy
Ok, here's the avatar story -- hahahaha. VV told me to put up an avatar once and for all, so I put one up of some dorky guy as a joke and she got all bent out of shape (I think her vibrator was broken that day, I'm not positive though) Anyway, I posted all these lion pics and she's like "oh, take it back, take it back, you got it all wrong." She was kicking my azzzzzz about it. So, finally, I found the current on which made her happy.



Ha! Stop fibbing! I talked you into changing your avatar quite diplomatically. *snickers*