MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT.....
This topic was created in the Virgo forum by VIRGOEXALTED on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 and has 25 replies.
Hey all!! It's VE; I've come to a 'senapsis' or a 'clause' in my search; just today with a Scorp I got 'logical' and she 'exed' me....I was as surprised as you all might be for hearing this!! lol!!....Perhaps I dulled the leo flame, and put the wings on again....but still, I do feel out of part for Virgo; I just don't possess the Virgoaness; I am unconventional, and would rather jump into the dark, and turn the tides of dark in my favor, rather than walk to the edge, and fear it; I face my fears.....what is it with VE any damned way?! Just don't get it!!...It could be I am young, but most Virgs I know, are more afraid of the dark, where I just jump in and experience it....need some help Virguys/gals!!
If I were you I'd just consider myself a Dragon and be done with it.
I suppose I should just consider myself broad-minded/open-minded and end this nonsense. I am motivated by biological drives to 'figure myself out' probably becuase I am a teen, but this open-mindedness has gotten me a little idecisive....which road to choose? I know I'm young, but this 'flame of discovery' wants to dominate, and cut all the darkness of uncertainty away...I wanna expand beyond the need to analyze, and besides, I SUCK OUT LOUD AT MATH!! =)!! LOL!! HATE IT!! TOO MUCH PRECISION, AND METHOD FOR ME....I always liked art, and WHAT COULD BE....ya know, the POSSIBILITIES 
Man, you're not listening, you're a Dragon-the best sign there is, what is there to think about?
YEAH YAMA!! WHY SHOULD I TYPIFY MYSELF!! I'M ME!! FREE-SPIRITED, OPTIMISTIC, ENTHUSIASTIC ME!! (sounds a little 'saved by the bell' lol!!) Virgos typify themselves as a need to categorize; I think there is more to this sign than what leads/shows on!! But now, how to go about PROVING IT.....any other Virguys/gals have anything to offer? I think as humans we have the ability to expand, and create new opruntunities for ourselves; why stay stuck in the routine, when life can be an adventure? I don't know about you all, but I don't want the pangs of old age to take a way my enthusiasm, and zest; totally unique to VE I guess...
You have Mars in Aries, so it makes sense.
Does anyone feel more free-spirited, and lofty as a Virgo? Or is it my age?.... I mean I've been thru ROUGH TIMES....and even when it seems hopless, and when others cave around me, I end up carrying others out, and thru; I just pick myself up, and laugh it all off! lol!!....I just know deep down, it'll all work out, even if it means I have to make it work; you can't give in ya know?! But as far as analysis goes, I don't have a need to want to analyze, just experience....isn't that what the element earth is about? experience, and discovery?
Thanx Tanya023, no, ya needn't say more, less ya wanna!! lol!!
*cups hand to ear in eager positioning to tanya's testemony to her love of Virgos*
But to Yama, the mars in aries thing is exaltation right? I mean mars rules aries, but I don't ever feel competitive, actually, HATE COMPETITIVE SPORTS!! No free, form, and too black or white in this case....someones a winner, and someones a loser....hate that. The being judged part too of competitions; I just don't get it; I guess it's becuase I am so stubborn I don't care to here a 'humans critisms' which is why I could never play, they weren't 'omnicient' and ered as well.... so many variables in this chart that would 'seem' to clearly answer questions, but I suppose 'I have to know more' yama.... I gotta know 'why' ya know? My parents HATE THIS ABOUT ME LOL!! I just can't take things as being 'that's that' there's gotta be more....I still prepose Virgos fall into a new class, or Uranus/Jupiter ruled, or Mercury/Vulcan....So many possibilities to choose from!! All EQUALLY TANTALIZING!!
*cups hand to ear in eager positioning to tanya's testemony to her love of Virgos*
But to Yama, the mars in aries thing is exaltation right? I mean mars rules aries, but I don't ever feel competitive, actually, HATE COMPETITIVE SPORTS!! No free, form, and too black or white in this case....someones a winner, and someones a loser....hate that. The being judged part too of competitions; I just don't get it; I guess it's becuase I am so stubborn I don't care to here a 'humans critisms' which is why I could never play, they weren't 'omnicient' and ered as well.... so many variables in this chart that would 'seem' to clearly answer questions, but I suppose 'I have to know more' yama.... I gotta know 'why' ya know? My parents HATE THIS ABOUT ME LOL!! I just can't take things as being 'that's that' there's gotta be more....I still prepose Virgos fall into a new class, or Uranus/Jupiter ruled, or Mercury/Vulcan....So many possibilities to choose from!! All EQUALLY TANTALIZING!!
"FREE-SPIRITED, OPTIMISTIC, ENTHUSIASTIC ME!!"
^That is one of the most Aries-like comments I have ever seen, but obviously, there are other influences in your chart that may explain your dislike for competition, I don't know your chart, so I really can't say. Mars in Aries is a very strong and LOUD placement, so it makes sense that it'll make you an extraordinary Virgo.(I have Mars in Aries as well, so I would know)
^That is one of the most Aries-like comments I have ever seen, but obviously, there are other influences in your chart that may explain your dislike for competition, I don't know your chart, so I really can't say. Mars in Aries is a very strong and LOUD placement, so it makes sense that it'll make you an extraordinary Virgo.(I have Mars in Aries as well, so I would know)
But what does Mars in Aries have to do with the 'mode of expression?' the perpetual pattern of ones self-expression, and collective consciousness, or ego? Does mars rule me that much? Or is there just more out there? I suppose I'm just not hearing what I want!! lol!! maybe it IS the answer Yama....but here is my chart based on the tropical zodiac:
September 6 1988
4:12 PM Time Zone is EDT
York, PA
Rising Sign is in 10 Degrees Capricorn
You are practical and reserved but very ambitious. An achiever and a hard worker, you respect success. Older looking and very serious as a youth, things lighten up and you relax more as you mature. You have a serious view of the world as being a difficult place to be in. Very envious of those who seem to have an easier life than you have, relaxation and play do not come easily. It is important that you had abundant parental support as a child so that you do not feel lonely and isolated as an adult. Generally, you have a good, earthy sense of humor that can carry you through when times really do get tough. You are purposeful, self-willed, industrious, realistic and responsible.
Sun is in 14 Degrees Virgo.
Extremely careful and cautious by nature, you value neatness and order above all else. You rigorously practice very high standards of living and conduct and you demand the same of everyone with whom you come into contact. At times, you are so supercritical that you are merely nit-picky. You are very good at practical skills and quite handy with tools of all kinds. You are also greatly concerned with hygiene, cleanliness and personal health problems. Very likely your health is much better than you think it is -- don't worry so much! Extremely methodical and analytical, you are a perfectionist -- this makes you the perfect person to carry out highly detailed, precise operations. But, at times, you pay so much attention to details that you lose sight of the larger issues.
Moon is in 26 Degrees Cancer.
For the most part, you are very strong and secure emotionally. You intuitively know what to do to make others feel comfortable, loved, accepted and needed. You naturally enjoy feeding and taking care of others. Be careful that your mothering does not turn into smothering. At times, you tend to feel that those to whom you are attached can never do anything without your assistance and support. Extremely sensitive by nature, it hurts you deeply whenever anyone criticizes you. You have an almost desperate need
September 6 1988
4:12 PM Time Zone is EDT
York, PA
Rising Sign is in 10 Degrees Capricorn
You are practical and reserved but very ambitious. An achiever and a hard worker, you respect success. Older looking and very serious as a youth, things lighten up and you relax more as you mature. You have a serious view of the world as being a difficult place to be in. Very envious of those who seem to have an easier life than you have, relaxation and play do not come easily. It is important that you had abundant parental support as a child so that you do not feel lonely and isolated as an adult. Generally, you have a good, earthy sense of humor that can carry you through when times really do get tough. You are purposeful, self-willed, industrious, realistic and responsible.
Sun is in 14 Degrees Virgo.
Extremely careful and cautious by nature, you value neatness and order above all else. You rigorously practice very high standards of living and conduct and you demand the same of everyone with whom you come into contact. At times, you are so supercritical that you are merely nit-picky. You are very good at practical skills and quite handy with tools of all kinds. You are also greatly concerned with hygiene, cleanliness and personal health problems. Very likely your health is much better than you think it is -- don't worry so much! Extremely methodical and analytical, you are a perfectionist -- this makes you the perfect person to carry out highly detailed, precise operations. But, at times, you pay so much attention to details that you lose sight of the larger issues.
Moon is in 26 Degrees Cancer.
For the most part, you are very strong and secure emotionally. You intuitively know what to do to make others feel comfortable, loved, accepted and needed. You naturally enjoy feeding and taking care of others. Be careful that your mothering does not turn into smothering. At times, you tend to feel that those to whom you are attached can never do anything without your assistance and support. Extremely sensitive by nature, it hurts you deeply whenever anyone criticizes you. You have an almost desperate need
to be loved and wanted and needed by everyone with whom you come into contact, and you go out of your way to be accommodating to them.
Mercury is in 09 Degrees Libra.
You are known for not jumping to conclusions about things. You tend to weigh all possible choices very carefully before making a decision. When in the slightest amount of doubt, you will compromise rather than ruffle any feathers. You are a true raconteur of culture and taste -- your ideas and opinions are neat, elegant and refined. A born diplomat, you dislike discord so much that you will go out of your way to make others feel comfortable and at ease. You speak softly and pleasantly.
Venus is in 29 Degrees Cancer.
You like to be very close to other people. You need emotional support yourself and are willing to give it to others. When you feel unloved and insecure, you can be very jealous and possessive. You are not interested in casual or superficial relationships -- only deep emotional involvements interest you. Your faithful devotion is one of your greatest gifts, but be careful not to become too dependent on others. Learn to stand on your own two feet and demand your own rights once in a while.
Mars is in 10 Degrees Aries.
You are very independent and self-assertive, and you have lots of physical energy. You are not satisfied unless you can be the first to do something. As such, you are more comfortable in leadership positions than you are as an underling. When you are challenged by anyone for anything, you delight in the competitive process and will fight long and hard for your beliefs. You are bold and courageous and often act without thinking. At times, in your zeal to get ahead, you are tactless and offensive -- learn that cooperation with others can often bring you nearer to your goals quicker because of the support you will get.
Jupiter is in 05 Degrees Gemini.
You have a logical, detached, objective view of most things. Your interests are wide-ranging and you are an avid student, with expertise in many different areas. You love to work things out in your mind -- everything you do is reduced to an exercise in logic and reason. You have the ability to grasp abstractions and to deal successfully with the larger issues of life. Your overemphasis on developing your powerful intellect can cause your emotional and intuitive abilities to atrophy unless you consciously choose to exercise them.
Saturn is in 25 Degrees Sagittarius.
Basically quite conservative,
Mercury is in 09 Degrees Libra.
You are known for not jumping to conclusions about things. You tend to weigh all possible choices very carefully before making a decision. When in the slightest amount of doubt, you will compromise rather than ruffle any feathers. You are a true raconteur of culture and taste -- your ideas and opinions are neat, elegant and refined. A born diplomat, you dislike discord so much that you will go out of your way to make others feel comfortable and at ease. You speak softly and pleasantly.
Venus is in 29 Degrees Cancer.
You like to be very close to other people. You need emotional support yourself and are willing to give it to others. When you feel unloved and insecure, you can be very jealous and possessive. You are not interested in casual or superficial relationships -- only deep emotional involvements interest you. Your faithful devotion is one of your greatest gifts, but be careful not to become too dependent on others. Learn to stand on your own two feet and demand your own rights once in a while.
Mars is in 10 Degrees Aries.
You are very independent and self-assertive, and you have lots of physical energy. You are not satisfied unless you can be the first to do something. As such, you are more comfortable in leadership positions than you are as an underling. When you are challenged by anyone for anything, you delight in the competitive process and will fight long and hard for your beliefs. You are bold and courageous and often act without thinking. At times, in your zeal to get ahead, you are tactless and offensive -- learn that cooperation with others can often bring you nearer to your goals quicker because of the support you will get.
Jupiter is in 05 Degrees Gemini.
You have a logical, detached, objective view of most things. Your interests are wide-ranging and you are an avid student, with expertise in many different areas. You love to work things out in your mind -- everything you do is reduced to an exercise in logic and reason. You have the ability to grasp abstractions and to deal successfully with the larger issues of life. Your overemphasis on developing your powerful intellect can cause your emotional and intuitive abilities to atrophy unless you consciously choose to exercise them.
Saturn is in 25 Degrees Sagittarius.
Basically quite conservative,
Well, your rising is Capricorn and your moon is Cancer-both square Aries, and are not that competitive-which explains why you don't like to compete.(d'uh)
I think when a planet is in his natural sign it gives it a lot more power, and just generally influences one's personality.
I think when a planet is in his natural sign it gives it a lot more power, and just generally influences one's personality.
I actually hadn't realized that; from what I've known especially about my rising sign, I heard Capps love competition, and are virtually enthralled with the competive process as long as it gets them ahead, or up the social/economic stratum, and with mars in aries, they should shine in unison; but that dosen't explain my preference to broad-based ideas, and lack of intrest in the mundane, and everyday....these things are basically only sphere's of involvment far as my agression/drive (mars) my emotions/feelings/(moon) and (pluto) is concerned; my pluto is ruled in Scorpio as well; My general 'self' is more abstract in thinking, and more fearless in the face of adversity, and change; I am so ready to speak about bigger ideas such as 'if I were pres...' or if 'I could change this world' all of my talk/intrest is in 'leading' not following and my ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE is being NOTHING MORE THAN A COG IN A MACHINE....A FACE IN THE CROWD; I WANT TO STAND OUT, AND BE INDIVIDUAL, AND STAND APART/TOGETHER WITH HUMANITY IN ATTEMPTS TO ALTER IT IN MY VISION; how can what is forcasted in my Virgoan sun contain such HUGE IDEAS, AND DREAMS?.....Unless there is more still to the Virgin...
"I heard Capps love competition, and are virtually enthralled with the competive process as long as it gets them ahead,"
Getting ahead, yes but actual physical, aggressive competition? They are too reserved and careful.
"I am so ready to speak about bigger ideas such as 'if I were pres...' or if 'I could change this world' all of my talk/intrest is in 'leading' not following and my ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE is being NOTHING MORE THAN A COG IN A MACHINE....A FACE IN THE CROWD; I WANT TO STAND OUT, AND BE INDIVIDUAL, AND STAND APART/TOGETHER WITH HUMANITY IN ATTEMPTS TO ALTER IT IN MY VISION;"
Man, you just described an Aries.
Getting ahead, yes but actual physical, aggressive competition? They are too reserved and careful.
"I am so ready to speak about bigger ideas such as 'if I were pres...' or if 'I could change this world' all of my talk/intrest is in 'leading' not following and my ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE is being NOTHING MORE THAN A COG IN A MACHINE....A FACE IN THE CROWD; I WANT TO STAND OUT, AND BE INDIVIDUAL, AND STAND APART/TOGETHER WITH HUMANITY IN ATTEMPTS TO ALTER IT IN MY VISION;"
Man, you just described an Aries.
I just think that my general 'self' as defined by sun is more confident in take charge positions, I'm humorous, and freedom-loving, undaunted, expansive, broad-minded, and so willing to uncover the greater mysteries of life, and unafraid of the dark; I never need explanation, just curiousity to jump into the dark, to see what was there; even if THIS is only a reflex of my rising, Capricorn (which I doubt to an extent) Why is so much of my personality more atuned to more than just the 'everyday grind'? I suppose I like to think of myself in a more 'larger' sense; like I'm stronger than what I actually am if that makes any sense.
Yeah? So it is that I am THAT RULED BY ARIES?!?!.....wow, my 'self' is more arian in nature, less virgoan? why is it that one planet mars can 'overshadow' the sun? Isn't the sun the largest astro body of our solar system? Basically all of my personality is sumed up by Mars/Aries....One interpretation I guess!! lol!!
at least my sun personality is overshadowed by mars.....strange....
VE, you worry yourself to death about this astrology stuff . . .
Just spread your wings, fly and be happy just being free . . .
Just spread your wings, fly and be happy just being free . . .
Well your moon and venus are on the cusp of Leo, so generally I'm guessing you have a very "fiery" personality.
That pretty much explains it.
Yes; P I will; I don't 'worry'; I don't take this stuff seriously, just wish to argue it or 'revolutionize' it; I just look for mystery in 'EVERYTHING' I guess but hey p, if I stopped thinking on this stuff, wouldn't this thread terminate? then where would we be at? I am simply mixing up ideas, and throwing new theories/abstractions out there; I am me, and durn proud, but thanx p for the 'short 'n sweet'...
I hear Virgos fear the dark, and don't want to live life fully; I think that is garbage; a virgo whom is 'aware' of themselves would realize this is an oprotunity to test ones mind/analysis, AND to change the world; what greater joy could something possibly bring than that?!?!?! IT SOUNDS TOO EXCITING!!; Virgo is a MENTAL sign also from what I know, and seems comfortable with thought, and new ideas; so why is it that they are supposed to be grounded, and practical? I am a Virgo sun, and my mom a Gemini sun, and she to me can be EXCEEDINGLY BORING.....I've been trying to open her up;test her, and see what her mind is made of....they say gems are good at 'making ideas on the fly' but her.....hmmmm, she dosen't LIKE IT; I don't like that trait about her....I'd rather explore my mind, and experience on every level; I don't need to analyze; I just get out there, and GO!!.
honesty, feelings, expression, getting things out in the open, and the discovery of the self and my minds strength are all MONNUMENTAL to me I NEED to know what I am capable of and be able to surpass my limitations; I hate that word, limitations SO RESTRICTIVE; If I don't have these; I feel lost, and unhappy; I have had actually a VERRRRY hard home life, (possibly thanx to my rising sign in the sign of struggle, and hard luck) but I don't allow that to stand in my way it HAPPENED, and I got THRU; they say virgos are easily daunted; another GARBINO STATEMENT!!; they are one of the most undanted creatures of the zodiac; they don't shirk from responsibility, or challenge; but I suppose If I said this I'd be foolish, becuase to know that, I'd have to meet every Virgo; also temperment, and individual experience can effect temperments and moods also rendering the 'deffinitive virgo male/female' near impossible to destiguish......
I am a searcher; a wanderer, and a deep, spiritual soul, sounds sag; my sidreal rising sign is sag, and I BELIEVE this; I move fast, and am quite flexible in temperment; I akin to new ideas, and challenge of myself....I want to go beyond the stars; I NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE.....
Yes; that is quite strange virgofun....so could you describe this virgirl a little bit?
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