My Male Virgo Boss
This topic was created in the Virgo forum by newtothis on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 and has 30 replies.
My Virgo boss is an independent wealth manager and I, an Aries, am his junior. We have no other employees. I'm 25 and he is 63. He is extremely mercurial though and it drives me insane! If we have meetings, sometimes he will cancel morning of because he "just has way too much work to do" and says he is extremely behind. My thoughts are we are getting a bad reputation because of the last minute schedule changes.
A few of our business acquittances have hinted that I am the one that is more reliable and easier to get ahold of. He also locks himself in his office for days and refuses to answer calls or emails. His clients will then call my cell. I ignore his crap and try to work as hard as I can, but even then it gets under my skin. I try to sit him down ask what is wrong but he is too hard to pin down.
This week broke the camels back though. I brought in a fairly big client and we all have a meeting scheduled for Friday morning. I just know my boss is going to cancel last minute and make us look like dumbasses. How do I get him to be more responsible and care about the business?
His chart-
Sun- Virgo
Moon- Aries
Mercury- Virgo
Venus- Libra
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Pisces
My chart-
Sun- Aries
Moon- Libra
Mercury- Aries
Venus- Aries
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Virgo
Please help ha
A few of our business acquittances have hinted that I am the one that is more reliable and easier to get ahold of. He also locks himself in his office for days and refuses to answer calls or emails. His clients will then call my cell. I ignore his crap and try to work as hard as I can, but even then it gets under my skin. I try to sit him down ask what is wrong but he is too hard to pin down.
This week broke the camels back though. I brought in a fairly big client and we all have a meeting scheduled for Friday morning. I just know my boss is going to cancel last minute and make us look like dumbasses. How do I get him to be more responsible and care about the business?
His chart-
Sun- Virgo
Moon- Aries
Mercury- Virgo
Venus- Libra
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Pisces
My chart-
Sun- Aries
Moon- Libra
Mercury- Aries
Venus- Aries
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Virgo
Please help ha
Tell Bernie that you have a big client that won't be cancelled on or he's gonna walk. The Bern ain't that busy!
Sounds like another Boomer who needs to retire.
More like, when will he retire and make room for someone else to fill his shoes? Based on your admission, that doesn’t sound too challenging.
More like, when will he retire and make room for someone else to fill his shoes? Based on your admission, that doesn’t sound too challenging.
Why does your boss need to be part of the meeting exactly? Can you essentially do his job/stand in for him.
Suggest to him that you will handle these meetings, get him the highlights and only involve him if he is truly needed. Let him focus on the work he is behind on.
Suggest to him that you will handle these meetings, get him the highlights and only involve him if he is truly needed. Let him focus on the work he is behind on.
Posted by newtothis
My Virgo boss is an independent wealth manager and I, an Aries, am his junior. We have no other employees. I'm 25 and he is 63. He is extremely mercurial though and it drives me insane! If we have meetings, sometimes he will cancel morning of because he "just has way too much work to do" and says he is extremely behind. My thoughts are we are getting a bad reputation because of the last minute schedule changes.
A few of our business acquittances have hinted that I am the one that is more reliable and easier to get ahold of. He also locks himself in his office for days and refuses to answer calls or emails. His clients will then call my cell. I ignore his crap and try to work as hard as I can, but even then it gets under my skin. I try to sit him down ask what is wrong but he is too hard to pin down.
This week broke the camels back though. I brought in a fairly big client and we all have a meeting scheduled for Friday morning. I just know my boss is going to cancel last minute and make us look like dumbasses. How do I get him to be more responsible and care about the business?
His chart-
Sun- Virgo
Moon- Aries
Mercury- Virgo
Venus- Libra
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Pisces
My chart-
Sun- Aries
Moon- Libra
Mercury- Aries
Venus- Aries
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Virgo
Please help ha
write him a letter outlining the problems along with the solution. Don't get personal, no personal attacks. Just lay out the situation and the remedy.
Looking at your chart you should have already realised what you need to do on a personal level within the company to mitigate this problem correct?
I do but I also have a lot of other stuff to do, too.
This new client is in his seventies and wants to do business with my boss, as my boss knows more than I do.
Are all Virgo's like this?
This new client is in his seventies and wants to do business with my boss, as my boss knows more than I do.
Are all Virgo's like this?
Posted by magma5replace Virgo with Gemini
Are all Aries the same?
Its not a virgo thing its a boomer thing lol
Posted by RomanRdWhy are you trying to copy my name?Posted by magma5
Are all Aries the same?
replace Virgo with Geminiclick to expand
There can be only one Roman and that’s me. Bye 👋
Posted by RomzzDon’t be a pillockPosted by RomanRdPosted by magma5
Are all Aries the same?
replace Virgo with Gemini
Why are you trying to copy my name?
There can be only one Roman and that’s me. Bye 👋click to expand
https://romanroadlondon.com/
Use that Mars in Virgo and adapt to his ways.
You can do it. Analyze the situation and find a clever way forward
You can do it. Analyze the situation and find a clever way forward
Posted by Tomboyyyy😂😂😂👍👍🤪Posted by newtothis
I do but I also have a lot of other stuff to do, too.
This new client is in his seventies and wants to do business with my boss, as my boss knows more than I do.
Are all Virgo's like this?
Why are you using his number one excuse?click to expand
Thanks for the advice. It's just that I am the junior and don't want to tell him what to do.
The clients in question are older than him and want to do business with him. I've sent him emails asking questions and no reply, but he keeps on giving me other work and disappears. It looks badly on us and the clients. I know I am going to have to call and cancel last minute tomorrow morning and I am going to be pissed. It is not right for him to except others to cater to his "precious" schedule. He wants to be all moody and distant when he upset but the has to communicate that.
He does not respect me or my time, so why should I respect his. Really fucking immature and annoying and selfish of him to do this to me his wife and his clients. Bad business.
Rant over ha just got to vent
The clients in question are older than him and want to do business with him. I've sent him emails asking questions and no reply, but he keeps on giving me other work and disappears. It looks badly on us and the clients. I know I am going to have to call and cancel last minute tomorrow morning and I am going to be pissed. It is not right for him to except others to cater to his "precious" schedule. He wants to be all moody and distant when he upset but the has to communicate that.
He does not respect me or my time, so why should I respect his. Really fucking immature and annoying and selfish of him to do this to me his wife and his clients. Bad business.
Rant over ha just got to vent
I am willing to. He told me he wanted a partner. I have brought in assets, but he does not want to help me sometimes when I need help. One day he tells me he's been in the industry for forty years and he knows everything but then he tells me he has to figure things out everyday, too. I get the wishy-washy feeling and I can't bring in assets and help me everyday like he wants me to. It is a difficult role to balance.
We really need a secretary but he says we can't afford one until I get my assets up. I try to, but he says it is too much work at one time.
We really need a secretary but he says we can't afford one until I get my assets up. I try to, but he says it is too much work at one time.
I think so. Its been about two years. I have made a lot of good business contacts. In fact, I messaged several of them today and they told me to email them my resume. I'm tired of being under paid and overworked.
I'm THIS close to starting making Serenity by Jan candles in my workspace.
I'm THIS close to starting making Serenity by Jan candles in my workspace.
Posted by newtothis
My Virgo boss is an independent wealth manager and I, an Aries, am his junior. We have no other employees. I'm 25 and he is 63. He is extremely mercurial though and it drives me insane! If we have meetings, sometimes he will cancel morning of because he "just has way too much work to do" and says he is extremely behind. My thoughts are we are getting a bad reputation because of the last minute schedule changes.
A few of our business acquittances have hinted that I am the one that is more reliable and easier to get ahold of. He also locks himself in his office for days and refuses to answer calls or emails. His clients will then call my cell. I ignore his crap and try to work as hard as I can, but even then it gets under my skin. I try to sit him down ask what is wrong but he is too hard to pin down.
This week broke the camels back though. I brought in a fairly big client and we all have a meeting scheduled for Friday morning. I just know my boss is going to cancel last minute and make us look like dumbasses. How do I get him to be more responsible and care about the business?
Is he a successful wealth manager? If so, he must be doing something right whether you agree with his style or not. If business is actually suffering, then you have an issue--to the extent that it's affecting your pockets. Sounds like you've taken a few comments made by clients about you being easier to get a hold of to mean more than it does, or his style of doing business is "wrong" because it doesn't line up with yours. At the end of the day if he's making people money, they aren't going anywhere no matter how challenging he may be doing face to face meetings. Just sounds like its a bad fit tbh and you need a place that provide opportunity and mentorship. You can't force a round peg into a square hole.
Move on if its that big of a deal, but learn what you can until then.
Posted by PhoenixRisingKind of. I have mixed feelings about it. I am aggressively looking for new job. Thanks.Posted by newtothis
My Virgo boss is an independent wealth manager and I, an Aries, am his junior. We have no other employees. I'm 25 and he is 63. He is extremely mercurial though and it drives me insane! If we have meetings, sometimes he will cancel morning of because he "just has way too much work to do" and says he is extremely behind. My thoughts are we are getting a bad reputation because of the last minute schedule changes.
A few of our business acquittances have hinted that I am the one that is more reliable and easier to get ahold of. He also locks himself in his office for days and refuses to answer calls or emails. His clients will then call my cell. I ignore his crap and try to work as hard as I can, but even then it gets under my skin. I try to sit him down ask what is wrong but he is too hard to pin down.
This week broke the camels back though. I brought in a fairly big client and we all have a meeting scheduled for Friday morning. I just know my boss is going to cancel last minute and make us look like dumbasses. How do I get him to be more responsible and care about the business?
Is he a successful wealth manager? If so, he must be doing something right whether you agree with his style or not. If business is actually suffering, then you have an issue--to the extent that it's affecting your pockets. Sounds like you've taken a few comments made by clients about you being easier to get a hold of to mean more than it does, or his style of doing business is "wrong" because it doesn't line up with yours. At the end of the day if he's making people money, they aren't going anywhere no matter how challenging he may be doing face to face meetings. Just sounds like its a bad fit tbh and you need a place that provide opportunity and mentorship. You can't force a round peg into a square hole.
Move on if its that big of a deal, but learn what you can until then.click to expand
The question is, can you do what you do without your boss? Maybe his clients have been with him long time so are willing to deal with his cancelations.
Older generations have good things too teach, but after a while they just become stale and unmotivated.
But remember, running a successful business isn't easy.
Save your money & start a business. most oldies don't want 2 change
Older generations have good things too teach, but after a while they just become stale and unmotivated.
But remember, running a successful business isn't easy.
Save your money & start a business. most oldies don't want 2 change
Posted by 777I was reduced to PT just working in the afternoons, I work 12-4 now. Last week, Virgo rescheduled an appointment at 2, then same day decided to reschedule for the next week. I apologized to the client for the last minute reschedule and he told me "don't, it is not your fault."
The question is, can you do what you do without your boss? Maybe his clients have been with him long time so are willing to deal with his cancelations.
Older generations have good things too teach, but after a while they just become stale and unmotivated.
But remember, running a successful business isn't easy.
Save your money & start a business. most oldies don't want 2 change
Today, the client texts me "are we meeting at 10?" I replied "As far as I know. I do not come into until noon. Virgo should be in the office though."
He said "I'm starting to get a complex..."
Me- "I'm really sorry."
Client- "It is not you! This is the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm gone."
Posted by newtothisit sucks to work with people who neglect their duties. It's even worse when superiors harbor neglectful behavior. They don't realize how it affects other people's moral & motivation. In this situation, considering such small staff ,& chain of command, your only other recourse is alternative employment.Posted by 777
The question is, can you do what you do without your boss? Maybe his clients have been with him long time so are willing to deal with his cancelations.
Older generations have good things too teach, but after a while they just become stale and unmotivated.
But remember, running a successful business isn't easy.
Save your money & start a business. most oldies don't want 2 change
I was reduced to PT just working in the afternoons, I work 12-4 now. Last week, Virgo rescheduled an appointment at 2, then same day decided to reschedule for the next week. I apologized to the client for the last minute reschedule and he told me "don't, it is not your fault."
Today, the client texts me "are we meeting at 10?" I replied "As far as I know. I do not come into until noon. Virgo should be in the office though."
He said "I'm starting to get a complex..."
Me- "I'm really sorry."
Client- "It is not you! This is the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm gone."click to expand
That's the only way to make him reflect on his neglect of duty....maybe
He's old too, so he's probably not trippin off of customers opinion like that.
Good thing he hired an EMPLOYEE to work FOR HIM. In HIS COMPANY. To a JOB and get PAID to that JOB.
Your a joke complaining about work. How about quite. Right now quite. Your not obligated to be there you can find another job. Unless you like your job and responsibility. Or better yet you can GROW THE FUQ UP and talk to your boss. Unless your a punk Azz Chihuahua venting onto the solar system. Sit puppy. Now roll over, and play dead.
Your a joke complaining about work. How about quite. Right now quite. Your not obligated to be there you can find another job. Unless you like your job and responsibility. Or better yet you can GROW THE FUQ UP and talk to your boss. Unless your a punk Azz Chihuahua venting onto the solar system. Sit puppy. Now roll over, and play dead.
Sounds like you're understaffed. Can you ask for another employee to help with your work so you can take some extra responsibility and learn more about what he does?
Trying to aim for a solution through showing initiative and asking for a learning opportunitity might be a better way to get through to an old person rather than telling them what to do. Make it look like you want him to help and teach you, rather than he needs your help or he can't keep up with his work responsibilities.
Trying to aim for a solution through showing initiative and asking for a learning opportunitity might be a better way to get through to an old person rather than telling them what to do. Make it look like you want him to help and teach you, rather than he needs your help or he can't keep up with his work responsibilities.
Posted by SuperSize9There is no need to be rude. We are also in a small town and in a pandemic. A lot of companies are not hiring.
Good thing he hired an EMPLOYEE to work FOR HIM. In HIS COMPANY. To a JOB and get PAID to that JOB.
Your a joke complaining about work. How about quite. Right now quite. Your not obligated to be there you can find another job. Unless you like your job and responsibility. Or better yet you can GROW THE FUQ UP and talk to your boss. Unless your a punk Azz Chihuahua venting onto the solar system. Sit puppy. Now roll over, and play dead.
Update- I am going to law school in the fall, so I am coasting until June, then I can leave.
He sent me to Atlanta for a week to see a big client and then to Austin to see another client. He was in Florida last week on vacation and then he left for Houston this week, so it has been bearable.
I imagine a 70s year old client would feel more comfortable handling his business with a 63 year old rather than a 25 year old because of experience alone.
Update- My Virgo boss who went MIA for a few days. On Friday night about 8:30pm, his Sagittarius wife called me. She said he hasn't answered texts or calls from her or their kids in a few days and was calling me to see if I had any contact with him. I said not since Wednesday morning, when he told me he left. She said he actually left Tuesday night and has been MIA since. There were not even any credit charges, except the hotel room.
About an hour later she texted me saying she finally got a hold a real short text from him. On Saturday I sent him a text saying "I hope all is well. Sagittarius wife got nervous and reached out to me last night. Thinking and praying about you." No response.
I sent Sag a text on Saturday afternoon seeing if she heard from him again. She said he got home that afternoon.
What the hell?
About an hour later she texted me saying she finally got a hold a real short text from him. On Saturday I sent him a text saying "I hope all is well. Sagittarius wife got nervous and reached out to me last night. Thinking and praying about you." No response.
I sent Sag a text on Saturday afternoon seeing if she heard from him again. She said he got home that afternoon.
What the hell?
Posted by newtothisYou both have a karmatic relationship. You have Virgo in your chart too, and your Lilith aspects him strongly. Due to the age difference, there’s potential for a mentor/prodigy relationship. Be upfront that clients are calling you. Don’t be blunt or you’ll trigger his moon’s qualities. Tomorrow, come 15 minutes before he arrives. Just sit a your desk. If he’s not a talker, bright smile, loudly say “good morning” (a genuine smile that would make anyone feel rude to pass by). Offer to piggy back coffee for him on top of your order. Once he’s approachable, walk in, and tell him you need to talk to him. Be upfront and tell him you’d like to expand your role and support him wherever possible. Be upfront and tell him (politely) that clients are calling you for updates, and that maybe he can find time to talk with you to work out a system. At the end of the conversation, remind him about the new business meeting. Tell him that you can’t help but notice a pattern in his schedule, and *just* for the sake of salvaging the best impression and retaining business, that if he happens to have to reschedule this meeting also, that maybe he’s willing to trust you to handle a more abridged meeting for the purpose of meet and greet. If you see him getting squirmish at the sound, remind him that the best work relationships are built on expanding trust, that you were hired for a reason, you work best in environments that reinforce good hires being honest and upfront about having additional time to take on more work and your style of work is to report every detail back to your supervisor afterwards. Good luck—
My Virgo boss is an independent wealth manager and I, an Aries, am his junior. We have no other employees. I'm 25 and he is 63. He is extremely mercurial though and it drives me insane! If we have meetings, sometimes he will cancel morning of because he "just has way too much work to do" and says he is extremely behind. My thoughts are we are getting a bad reputation because of the last minute schedule changes.
A few of our business acquittances have hinted that I am the one that is more reliable and easier to get ahold of. He also locks himself in his office for days and refuses to answer calls or emails. His clients will then call my cell. I ignore his crap and try to work as hard as I can, but even then it gets under my skin. I try to sit him down ask what is wrong but he is too hard to pin down.
This week broke the camels back though. I brought in a fairly big client and we all have a meeting scheduled for Friday morning. I just know my boss is going to cancel last minute and make us look like dumbasses. How do I get him to be more responsible and care about the business?
His chart-
Sun- Virgo
Moon- Aries
Mercury- Virgo
Venus- Libra
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Pisces
My chart-
Sun- Aries
Moon- Libra
Mercury- Aries
Venus- Aries
Mars- Virgo
Lilith in Virgo
Please help ha
Virgo Mars, Virgo Venus, Cancer Sun, Cap Moon, Virgo NN
Hello all. I was thinking about this today.
He is way too impulsive, emotional, and talkative for me. I like quiet stability and he is none of those things. Which is weird, because he is the Virgo and I am the Aries.
He is way too impulsive, emotional, and talkative for me. I like quiet stability and he is none of those things. Which is weird, because he is the Virgo and I am the Aries.
Posted by newtothislol this reminds me of one of the architects I work with. When I pointed out a problem with the number of retaining walls he had on plan he responded with "I've been doing this longer than you've been alive, don't tell me what to do" but also "can you convert this to a pdf, I don't know how".
One day he tells me he's been in the industry for forty years and he knows everything but then he tells me he has to figure things out everyday, too.
A few months later guess whose plans get kicked back in plan check for exceeding retaining wall allowance. Shocking!!
I still take jobs where this dude is the architect I just charge the client an extra fee for having to deal with his cranky dinosaur vibes.
Posted by newtothis
Hello all. I was thinking about this today.
He is way too impulsive, emotional, and talkative for me. I like quiet stability and he is none of those things. Which is weird, because he is the Virgo and I am the Aries.
He has Aries bits so impulsivity still quite possible.
Overall he sounds burned out and hollowly going through the motions of day to day life. Hermiting to cope but it just kicks the can down the road.
You are more then welcome to low key take over the company. Become more independent within the company. You do the meetings and send stuff to him to rubber stamp. He will eventually wake up from the shock to his pride or hand the reigns over to you in earnest. This is assuming the company is salvageable. I believe I said something to this effect months ago.
Looks like you decided to move on. You don't need to find a excuse to stop caring about him and the company by finding reasons to dislike him and what not. When does your semester start?
Poor Bernie!
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