Optimistic/Realist/Pessimist
This topic was created in the Virgo forum by CLCNY30 on Wednesday, June 1, 2011 and has 27 replies.
Which do you think you are?
Which do OTHERS perceive you to be?
Which do OTHERS perceive you to be?
Damn I'm sleepy...meant to make that Optimist/Realist/Pessimist, but no matter (-_-)
I think I'm self-pessimistic, but a mixture of optimist/realist for others. I'm always too hard on myself, but can't help it (which is why I'm around people who are more optimistic), but I like to inspire others to be/do what they want--within reason, though. Not trying to convince someone they can fly, and watch them fall to their death.
Others have told me they see me the same way I see myself, lmfao--hard on me, but optimistic for them. The only time someone's pegged me as being a realist for them was when it was "tough love" time; if you're in an abusive relationship and refuse to acknowledge what it's doing to you, then yeah--I'm going to tell you the truth (there will BE no "awww, it'll get better, stick around!
).
Others have told me they see me the same way I see myself, lmfao--hard on me, but optimistic for them. The only time someone's pegged me as being a realist for them was when it was "tough love" time; if you're in an abusive relationship and refuse to acknowledge what it's doing to you, then yeah--I'm going to tell you the truth (there will BE no "awww, it'll get better, stick around!
).
I grew up more of a pessimist: want the best, expect the worst. That way I wouldn't be dissapointed all the time because I would expect it from people.
I will say that since I turned 30, I've been much more of a optimist but definitely a realist. I always see things as they are and not how I want them. However, the optimism helps bring about great things. I think it has to do with the Law of Attraction.
I will say that since I turned 30, I've been much more of a optimist but definitely a realist. I always see things as they are and not how I want them. However, the optimism helps bring about great things. I think it has to do with the Law of Attraction.
Since this is the Virgo board, I'll start there. From my perspective, I think My Virgo is a pessimist - always thinks the worst of people/situations automatically (won't be let down, I suppose), everyone must prove themselves (hmmm, sounds rather virgoish ). He would consider this a realists perspective.; for him, he'll say the glass is half full, but at the same time believes it's half empty.
He, however, would say that I am the pessimist. However, I'm definitely more of an optimist, thinking that there is good in everything/everyone until they prove otherwise. Yet, I still realize that this is not always the case - so, I think optimistically, but maintain a realist perspective. The glass isn't half full or half empty, it just is what it is!
). He would consider this a realists perspective.; for him, he'll say the glass is half full, but at the same time believes it's half empty. He, however, would say that I am the pessimist. However, I'm definitely more of an optimist, thinking that there is good in everything/everyone until they prove otherwise. Yet, I still realize that this is not always the case - so, I think optimistically, but maintain a realist perspective. The glass isn't half full or half empty, it just is what it is!
Writing that just brought forth a realization I didn't have (or hadn't thought about - not in this particular way anyway) - how he and I approach things from completely different perspectives. Anything to do with the fact our true nodes are opposed to each other - or, would that particular aspect not come into play?
Posted by Virgo4Life
I grew up more of a pessimist: want the best, expect the worst. That way I wouldn't be dissapointed all the time because I would expect it from people.
I will say that since I turned 30, I've been much more of a optimist but definitely a realist. I always see things as they are and not how I want them. However, the optimism helps bring about great things. I think it has to do with the Law of Attraction.
You sound a lot like me!
Turning 30 def. changed my perspective on a LOT of things--I think it was the eyes-closed-tight fear of hitting the milestone, and fearing that I'd beat myself up for not accomplishing a,b, and c...and then realizing that it's just a number, I still have PLENTY of time to do what I'd like, and that the decade (my 20s) that I was afraid of leaving was actually quite turbulent and rough on me. I'm LOVING my 30's so far, each year things get better and better, and I find myself gaining a confidence I never knew before. It's great. Still have work to do, but much better than I've been in the past--not nearly as hard on myself.My sister-in-law (a Cap) was always trying to keep The Law Of Attraction in my mind, but I was just too pessimistic about myself/my problems to see it in my past. I understand it better now, and do see how keeping positive thoughts will attract more positive opportunities.
Realist/Pessimist
People perceive me the same way
People perceive me the same way
Posted by CLCNY30Posted by Virgo4Life
I grew up more of a pessimist: want the best, expect the worst. That way I wouldn't be dissapointed all the time because I would expect it from people.
I will say that since I turned 30, I've been much more of a optimist but definitely a realist. I always see things as they are and not how I want them. However, the optimism helps bring about great things. I think it has to do with the Law of Attraction.
You sound a lot like me!
My sister-in-law (a Cap) was always trying to keep The Law Of Attraction in my mind, but I was just too pessimistic about myself/my problems to see it in my past. I understand it better now, and do see how keeping positive thoughts will attract more positive opportunities.click to expand
Yep. I completely agree!
I don't know what changed exactly, like at what moment but I just made a decision to change how I thought about the things in my life. I think living with a negative family member for so long is a big part of it too. I am nowhere near where I thought I'd be at 30 but there are billions of people on the planet that have it worse. So I feel pretty damn good, even with my mile-long list of imperfections. lolOkay, now you're REALLY sounding like me.
I often wonder if I'd have been more positive in life had I not been raised around my mother, who was physically/verbally/mentally abusing towards us.
I didn't even need encouragement from her, I just wish she left me alone completely (-_-) I think it would have been so much better...
I often wonder if I'd have been more positive in life had I not been raised around my mother, who was physically/verbally/mentally abusing towards us.
I didn't even need encouragement from her, I just wish she left me alone completely (-_-) I think it would have been so much better...
abusive*
I wonder if most virgos have parents like this.....my father was abusive both physically/verbally/mentally and my mother was never around...both very selfish people
Mine werent abusive. In fact, my dad is almost like my best friend. I had two other family members help raise me that has so much of their own personal baggage over the years that I finally had enough a little over a year ago and moved away. I know we're all worried about money but to make yourself sick over it forever, even when you WERE making good money is just stupid. And being a Virgo, we're so prone to worrying anyway that being around others doing that exacerbates the problem. Now if I make myself sick over something, it's my own damn fault. lol So I choose not to do so and just try to feel good. Thinking positive thoughts is the first step but the law of attraction is so right about needing to feel it. The positive energy is will be contagious.
Posted by Virgo4Life
Mine werent abusive. In fact, my dad is almost like my best friend. I had two other family members help raise me that has so much of their own personal baggage over the years that I finally had enough a little over a year ago and moved away. I know we're all worried about money but to make yourself sick over it forever, even when you WERE making good money is just stupid. And being a Virgo, we're so prone to worrying anyway that being around others doing that exacerbates the problem. Now if I make myself sick over something, it's my own damn fault. lol So I choose not to do so and just try to feel good. Thinking positive thoughts is the first step but the law of attraction is so right about needing to feel it. The positive energy is will be contagious.
My father (a Scorp) was very loving towards me. I didn't grow up with him though--I grew up with my stepfather (a Virgo guy, and the driving force behind why I'm not a Virgo fan, even though I am one). He was indifferent. He had insecurity issues based on skintone, and I didn't find this out until I was in my late teens and he barked at me for having the nerve to be lighter than him. I found out he was teased back in the West Indies for being darker toned, but how that was my fault, I have no clue. It was shocking to find out he resented me because of that (his exact wording was, "if you were my real daughter, you wouldn't be that light, you know that--right?" and he sneered it at me. I just stared at him like (O_o)! )
What signs were these people, V4L? Very curious to know.
I know how you feel--I swear, it's like I've written much of what you said MYSELF, lol! My mother, stepfather and little brother moved to another state...I did not follow. I would rather have died. I felt...free!!! Now I knew if something wasn't working properly in my life from that point forward, it was on me--but life was really good. My self-confidence just appeared out of nowhere, lol. No regrets on not following them.
Posted by CancerMoon
Optimistic Realist here. I am not totally delusional in my omptimism but I definetly always think that everything will be great and larger than life, the people I'll befriend loyal, funny and intelligent and the situations almost Disney-esque in their happy epicness.
LMFAO!!!! That def. made me spit out water onto my keyboard a bit, lmmfao. You are too much =))
"Disney-esque in their happy epicness" though?? LOLLL
I swear, a bird flew in and sang on my shoulder after I read that, LMFAO
I swear, a bird flew in and sang on my shoulder after I read that, LMFAO
log off.
LOG OFF!!!
LOLLLLL!
LOG OFF!!!
LOLLLLL!
Sorry work caught up with me... To answer your question, one is a Leo and the other is a Pieces. The Leo I love but don't want to talk to because I don't want to hear how broke she is all the time. The other has done some shit I cannot forgive. She actually disappeared a few years back without a word and left a trail of wet turds in her wake, metaphorically speaking. So I'm glad to be rid of her.
I need to meet some Disney-esque people. I need more of that in my life. lol
I need to meet some Disney-esque people. I need more of that in my life. lol
Posted by YossarianPosted by LostinmyMind11
my father was abusive both physically/verbally/mentally and my mother was never around...both very selfish people
First part check,check and check, Mom was there though, in a sort of never got too close, never said I love you, never really cared kind of way. Pisces.click to expand
Seems like a pattern a little bit.....I read somewhere (wish I could remember)that most virgos have parents like this
Posted by YossarianPosted by LostinmyMind11Posted by YossarianPosted by LostinmyMind11
my father was abusive both physically/verbally/mentally and my mother was never around...both very selfish people
First part check,check and check, Mom was there though, in a sort of never got too close, never said I love you, never really cared kind of way. Pisces.
Seems like a pattern a little bit.....I read somewhere (wish I could remember)that most virgos have parents like this
Perhaps it's a rite of passage. Sort of keeps us in check and in tune with our more humble side. Lord knows I could use some humility, I always said if I were any taller I'd rule the world!click to expand
Maybe your right....I think a lot of people could be a little more humble!
Nope both threads aren't working....hmmmm you must have pissed off the dxp gods LOL
I'm definetly a optimist even when going through the worst. I think it had to do with my neptune placement and it's release. But after Saturn left my sign, I am becoming a lil bit more of a realist.
Posted by CLCNY30
Which do you think you are?
Which do OTHERS perceive you to be?
definitely realist
when times get tough - optimist
Posted by PurrrHisss
I'm a pessimist & am pretty sure others see me as a pessimist, too.
awww, boo boo! :*
we're gonna help each other out of that pessimistic funk, deal?
Definitely optimistic! I like to think that good things happen in life! If something goes wrong I try to find the best solution and think that there is a reason why it went wrong (something that has to do with destiny) and that there is something much better that is going to happen because this went wrong.
People see me as a person who spreads joy and good will. If I have a chance than I take it and hope for the best (after I analyze it and decide to go with it). I like to see the full half.
And definitely realistic... but even if I know that something might go wrong, I concentrate on all the things that will go right!
People see me as a person who spreads joy and good will. If I have a chance than I take it and hope for the best (after I analyze it and decide to go with it). I like to see the full half.
And definitely realistic... but even if I know that something might go wrong, I concentrate on all the things that will go right!
p.s. I see cancerians as very pessimist people.
I started as a pessimist/realist,crappy stuff kept happening to me ,but some of the crap turned out to be helpful for the long term.Then I was a realist and nothing could stir my imagination.Now I am an optimist with realist tendencies,because I can create my own optimissism and exsist within that framework.
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