Perfect Daing Question :)

Why is it that so many women have problems with virgo men. I'm been on DXP for two years now, and out of all the men in astrology, virgo men are the ones who give women the most trouble -- Aquarius men come a close 2nd and Cancer men a distant 3rd (😉)

What are the roots to the problem with virgo men. Is it the women or is it the Virgo men who are to blame for all the heartaches?

Okay, just because you are honest with someone doesn't make what you have done or are doing any better.

On the same token, I'm sure you've done things to piss people off, and you never intended to do it.

*giggles* Well ............... hmmmmm 😉

Is it the women or is it the Virgo men who are to blame for all the heartaches?

It's both, and unusually it's unintentional.

Women feel, and talk about feelings. Men think, and talk very little about feelings.

Virgo men are great listeners, and we often display sympathetic expressions when you're yakking at us; many Women interpret that to mean we're great feelers, too. What a disappointment the realization must be! Meanwhile, the women see what they want to see in this Nice Guy who seems to have his life together... until they reach that tipping point, and have to face reality.

The solution?

I've said it before: Ladies, know who you are and what you want before you meet that potential Mister Right. Then, look at him as he really is, and not how you want him to be -- this applies to any man from any sign.

DY raises a good point. About knowing yourself first, before getting involved. Hmmm, is this where most of the mistakes lie?

LOL

Astrologers don't call them the "Bachelors of the Zodiac" for nothin'.

I partly agree. They have a hard time putting up with themselves. Likely because they are afraid and don't know how to address their own shortcomings, even if they are aware of them. So they withdraw into self-imposed isolation.

branh0913 said: "Virgos get a lot of complaints because they don't "play along" like other signs do."

Preach on, brother!!!

GreatBull said: "no, men have their mind preoccupied in many spectrums of life."

Heh 🙂

I was thinking that too. Below quote of his I feel is more about the men than women (personally of course).

branh0913 said: "and you probably won't hear him go on too long about a crush. "

Never mind he said him, uh duh...

"we often display sympathetic expressions when you're yakking at us; many Women interpret that to mean we're great feelers, too. What a disappointment the realization must be! Meanwhile, the women see what they want to see in this Nice Guy who seems to have his life together... until they reach that tipping point, and have to face reality."


I have a question: The above quote of Dyr's is actually saying that Virgo men do indeed play along in allowing the woman to believe they are great feelers, only to be disappointed when reality hits.

Yet ... everybody else is agreeing that Virgos don't play along.

So, my question is: Ok, I don't have a question .. just an observation.

"Meanwhile, the women see what they want to see in this Nice Guy who seems to have his life together."

Dyr, I'm truly not getting your intended point here ...

"Ladies, know who you are and what you want before you meet that potential Mister Right. Then, look at him as he really is, and not how you want him to be"


The first part of your response infers that a Virgo "plays" along sympathetically, eventhough the Virgo man isn't really feeling what she is yakking about, which is actually mis-guiding the woman into believing that this Virgo man is real in feeling her .... and then turn around and say the solution is for a woman to look at him for who he really is, rather than what she wants him to be ... yet ...

.. he gave her a false impression of who is really is, by playing along with his sympathetic expressions that weren't really true of him.



Please clarify your contridiction.

I still want more information. There are way too many women who seem to have failed relationships with Virgo men. Seriously, I think it may be Virgo men who are to blame for giving false hope?

Cappysweetie, whether it's me and my Cappy exes or you and your Virgo man. The truth is the majority of women have the SAME problems with different men of different signs. Same problems. It's men AND women period. And the root of the problem is the way we CHOOSE to communicate with each other.

What men say, what women hear. What men learn from women's actions. And, blah blah blah...

In my dating history, I experience the same problem time and again. Same show, different cast (except for me lol). The reason is, I WANT LOVE!!! Men don't initially want love, they want sex, a trophy, someone they can get aroused by in conversation, playful flirting, blah blah blah... Women want the man wbo lugs around the Princess Throne pedestal waiting to Happily Ever After her. No matter how much we women desire that, men are not carrying around pedestals waiting to sit us upon a throne. And, men don't understand that we women are not just sexing, flirting, playful kittens JUST BECAUSE. We want you (men) to be our man. Bottom line.

If men could meet a woman and know that her liking him means she wants a relationship and not something easier then they could choose then to be strong enough to go forward or back off. But, unfortunately men have two heads. As the saying goes, A woman will fake an orgasm for a relationship and a man will fake a relationship for an orgasm. Whaddyagunnado...

wbo = who

Women set the stage for relationships, not men

No way, that's bull-shit 🙂 Why?

GreatBull said: "MsAristocracy, will you marry me?



you're the only one with some sense."

Hell yeah!!! Let's get off the market. 😉

why that's bullshit?

It ALL up to the women to set the stage for relationships, what? Why? Men don't know how to do it anymore? Oh my goodness ... maybe it just me.

A man who doesn't have the determination and confidence to set his own pace in life, and would rely on me to set his pace for him, so he could follow suit ..... is a tosser.


Losers get kicked to the curb ... any man who is this weak, need not apply at my door .. he has to be a man of conviction, and have the fortitude to express it in his everyday life.

btanh0913 said: "Women set the stage for relationships, not men"

I have heard this a lot. I don't recall ever fully understanding it though I recall asking for an explanation. So I'm with cappysweetie, why?

My findings are that men don't like being led emotionally. They have their own (much slower) schedule. So what good is a woman setting the stage when it is going to be based on a romantic fairy tale of love.

GreatBull said: "cool, now i got a e-fiance."

You're so good to not look at my age before agreeing. 🙂

Didn't mean to change your name branh0913 (my keyboard here at work is not the same as at home so I make mistakes. 😢

GreatBull, honey... my bad. My age wasn't shown but now it is. 🙂

branh0913 said: "I can probably keep this up for the next 10 years, and it wouldn't bother me at all. I think most men are the same way"

You aint getting away with that...

Finish that statement >> "I think most men are the same way" BECAUSE...

TIA 🙂

"If a man could keep things casual forever, that would be great."

"Women are the ones who really take it to this all new emotional level."

* * * * *

How did we get so different?

"Women who don't, who are pushy, critical, and are quick to bitch and moan about a man, are the same ones who will be single 10 or 20 years from now asking the same questions."

*Waves* 🙂

This is so true, for some reason men don't connect emotionally until after they are comfortable with a woman. Trying to beat him up because his feelings aren't the same will get a woman nowhere except alone. A tough concept to grasp (emotionally) and something I still struggle with.

To be truthful, I can only control my emotions when I am with a man who wants to be in a relationship or shares feelings indicating such. A man who sends mixed signals makes me lose emotional control and I become that woman above, pushy, critical, quick to B&M... Not always am I like that but I recognize having those ways sometimes.

GreatBull said: and msAristocracy, what's age gotta do with it?

I don't know, I've been accused of wanting to settle down with a 22y/o just because I asked him to meet me at a bar the first meeting vs. him coming to my house. Apparently the slow route and my age clued him in on my true motives. WTFever!

My recent ex who is 26y/o always wondered if I was mad at him/have an attitude with him/don't mess with him like that anymore just because I miss a day or two talking to him or don't call/text him during my work day. He's even asked me if I wanted to fight. I found out that his exes were fiesty little Ms. Things. It's what he's use to but not who I am.

You're between both their ages, and clearly the popular vote is that I am out of touch. 🙂

Which brings me to a new thread topic that I've been meaning to post...

P-Angel: The first part of your response infers that a Virgo "plays" along sympathetically, eventhough the Virgo man isn't really feeling what she is yakking about, which is actually mis-guiding the woman into believing that this Virgo man is real in feeling her...

No... A Virgo will feel genuine sympathy while listening to an upset woman; however, he probably will have no clue as to her emotional states later on -- unless he really gets to know her very well. Even then, it's tough for us to get where y'all are coming from. But if we love you, we do at least try...

Good info! 🙂 I like 😛 But I need more virgos to reply. I need to look inside their brains to figure out why they are the way they are LOL!!!!

GreatBull said: "out of touch with what?"

With how folks in their 20's date these days lol.

i think i was born with a 90' mindset, 1890's that is, but i love the technology of today.like a user here said, us bulls are born men.

Now this I agree with, even those with taurus moons 🙂

GreatBull said: "us bulls are born men."

That's hott!!! So, then our engagement is still on. 😉

You already know me so well. Gotta have a summer outdoor wedding!

No flats, I need at least two stories where the top and bottom stories have complete wrap around balconies with four doors on each side (total 8 doors). The suburbs are fine. 🙂

I don't like the cold either and ooh, we're going to be married at least ONE year. WOOHOO!!!! Anniversary here we come::::::::::

So, which side of the bed do you like to sleep on?

GreatBull said: "bed? i grew up on a couch, so a bed's a luxury.
which side? as long as I'm beside(and behind) you, its all good."

Stop it, you're about to get something started now.

I can cook pretty well especially with recipes. My fried chicken gets a lot of raves those.

oops, those s/b though.

We are still missing some key virgo inputs here 😉

lol!!!!!

hi GB 🙂

*cappy walks out the door with her nose in the air*