SENTIENCE.......

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by VIRGOEXALTED on Wednesday, January 9, 2008 and has 10 replies.
I've done some reading and I've discovered that there will be a sixteen point zodiac system that will include four new signs and a new mode called "sentience". This is so that the water signs will have their own domicile/mode to rule over (wind is mutable, fire is cardinal, and earth is fixed), because water isn't really any of the fixed, cardinal or mutable types; waters nature is to go about things using senstation/feeling/intuition....so now all the elements of the zodiac (earth, wind, fire, and water) will progress through this mode. I was wondering what your thoughts where about this in general.
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if anyone has any more info they'd like to share regarding this topic, anything AT ALL I'd be greatful.
sentience really from my own idea has to do with becoming aware of something through some intuitive means or response....it dosen't really seem as if it's like the other modes that show 'action response' such as adaptation, fixidity, or cardinality but perhaps (this is just my theory) it's through this new mode alone that we'll learn simple awareness/expansion of the whole self, leading to enlightenment plus the signs elemental domicile for example:
Sentient Wind=Intuition/intellect unifying for awarness instinctive drives from a logical mind. A detatched/mutable mind that's capable of intuitive/insightful analysis and depth from an objective/rational standpoint I speculate that it is responsible for the culmination of primordial energy and rational energy and it's transformation????.
Sentient Earth=Intuition/practicality unifying for intinctive drives for survival and functionality. A fixed/ambitious/rational mind that is capable of intuitively having a knack for buisness, sensuality and survival.
Sentient Fire=Intuition/faith or enthusiasm unify for an instinctive knowledge of and to relate to human nature, and broad focus on the universal consciousness and the innate need for faith/religion or a positive way of focus; instinctive knowledge about specualtive thought and positive expression of social energy. (still a work in progress...)
Sentient Water=Intuition/Intuition (MODE/DOMICLE RULERSHIP) The intiuitive powers are powerfully enhanced to instinctively investigate the unconscious world and it's connection/relationship to the universal unconscious....the 'we' of the unconsicous the flip side of universal consciousness and it's material/content.
remember, it's just speculation.....I don't have any concrete fact, but it dosen't stop it from being fun to do.....
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Lmao, you've gotta lota energy VK! Slow down....Tongue lol
VK:'Their gonna change the Western Zodiaz again?'
No, the whole thing isn't going to change VK, they're just adding 4 new signs to it, and a new mode of development, called sentience: go to the website 'Libra Rising' if you can't access it via my description go to google and type it in the search bar. Also, this isn't because new planets are being added, this is because (if my memory is GENERALLY correct) we are evolving; this zodiac was designed as a system to help express our evolution, and the sixteen signs are supposed to be made in the likeness of angels becuase we are growing still; check the sight if you want the specifics absolutes.
what I said to werner should be applied to you too....life IS change VK; it's going to, and anyone who hides away in fear is really quite pathetic in my opinion; don't shy away from your destiny; there's no time to be shy, when so much is going on around you! You can make a difference.....simply by being an individual you already DO. If there was perfect harmony with others we'd think/act/feel alike and where would we be? We all have the desire to show how we differ from others in the world at large, otherwise, we'd be engulfed in the masses, and what is more scary than getting lost in the mundaness of everyday life? There is no up, or hope, or anything that says 'theres an alternative to this!' Life is Perception, what if death (abstractly of course because physical death is bound to come) is nothing more than an altered form or consciousness? What if we never truly 'sease'? I've been drawn to death, and life since I was a small child. I remember talking to my dad and mother about it....they were shocked by my reasoning, and my inquisitiveness....they could never put my mind or my desire to know to rest.....I was a difficult one in that respect....
I always needed to know, or investigate, I always knew that the way I saw things there was always a 'flip side' I always wanted to 'see' 'experience' this side.....but I guess that's where speculation come in....


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'When we evolve to the sixteen sign zodiac, four new planets and signs must be incorporated, and the aspect relationship will change significantly, resulting in a new kind of lifesyle or reality. All of the basic sign traits will still be there, except they will be more singled out or emphasized, and there will be a fourth sentient mode expressing a purer form of emotion or intuition. The order would look something as follows(note: this is only the author's speculation -there may be other ways of arranging the variables)... '
1.Aries: cardinal fire 5.Cancer: cardinal water 9.Libra: cardinal air 13.Capricorn: cardinal earth
2.Taurus: fixed earth 6.Leo: fixed fire 10.Scorpio: fixed water 14.Aquarius: fixed air
3.Gemini: mutable air 7.Virgo: mutable earth 11.Sagittarius: mutable fire 15.Pisces: mutable water
4.??????: sentient water 8.??????: sentient air 12.?????: sentient earth 16.???????: sentient fire
lol, I guess it WILL change significantly....sorry....that's life! It changes Let's see where it takes us instead; as a fellow Virgo, I'm sure your mind is quite scientific, and you want to know what the next step is.....well, this COULD be it....
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*VE smiles*
I see....mentally very investigative and expansive...that's good! You're right in a lot of respects though. The ghetto mentality does dampen the growing mind, but being a Virgo, there will always be a purity to your character; what I'm saying is is you know who and what you are and aren't 'sullied' by the worlds conventional thinking they have their ways and you have yours....Virgin by nature means 'pure' or 'new' not necessarily 'inexperienced'.....take out of life what you want VK, and don't let anyone tell you who you are, that's PERSONAL and for only you to decide. Just becuase other signs are flattered (especially ones who don't walk what's talked about them) dosen't mean that they are what is said about them; define YOURSELF VK, and you can't go wrong.
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not just the ghetto mentality though; ANYWHERE where there's people and there are no differences (That's sort of why I resent Libra) there is no need for expansion or tolerance; for growth or change. People who are conservative-minded are this way and are resistant to change....(in theory, Virgo being mutable, but being a 'earth sign' is rather contradicting isn't it? Earth is by nature conservative, and dosen't change, yet Virgos need to learn and grow eliminates the natural quality of earth that it's suppose to have reinforced despite Virgos mode wich makes me think, are we truly earth signs?!)
society won't learn to progress or grow if you don't bring something new to the mix. That's apart of being an individual, we all have something to bring to the table, and are all valid in our approaches to life so long as the aren't destructive/harmful to others or ourselves; how do we bring something new to the table? We remain sincere, and true to ourselves; we honestly, sincerly, logically, and openly be ourselves....No human being i mean NO HUMAN BEING DESERVES TO BE DENIED OR IGNORED; no one is superior in bearing or soul than anyone else.....just be yourself....the individual can change so much...I'm usually at fault with anything that dosen't move forward becuase then it's just not logical; we as humans are always trying to progress and move forward (ideally to perfect ourselves; to realize so latent potential that dwells within) how can remaing in one conservative/social stance be good for people? We are weak becuase our fear takes hold of us, and we can't just be ourselves becuase of our need to blend in, our fear to step out and be ourselves or are ignorant to what truly makes us special.
I think If I've any right to call myself 'superior' it should start with my generousity and tolerance....learning to expand and to be supportive to everyone is what will make me in my eyes worthy of being an 'angel' we are signs of positivity not negativity! Progression/Revolution of the human spirit/mind to it's absolute peak.....think about it!
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if by nutcase you mean VE.....well you're only HALF right shaka2.....that part has been absorbed by the rational part, I don't really need to be as forceful as I was lol....actually, I'm kind of surprised you think I'm a nutcase....
*VE sweeps traquilzers under the rug* Now, I'll take magnamimous, broad, and even expansive.....that's definitely true....
ms p :VirgoExalted, are you sure you're only 19? Every time I come across one of your posts, you always surprise me and enlighten me in one way or another. You are incredibly wise for such a tender age."
lol took lots of flinstones chewables.....lol I'm am 19, I was Born September 6th, 1988; I think I'm like this becuase I actually concentrate on what I shoot out my pie-hole now....if you only knew me though....lol
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Shaka,
Go back to studies , will you? I see you are wasting lot of your time on this astrology board. It is not going to make your career, so get up and do something better with your life. It's OK to be here for a while for change or fun, but u seem to be living this board lately. Although it does not mean that u need to "disappear", your presence here should be on a normal basis. FOCUS on your career, if your new career is too easy to handle, may be you need to take additional classes to graduate with double degree.
Hope You won't mind.
Always inspiring (and bossing) cap.
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listen, I didn't come here to raise hell (at least not over something so trivial) so why not we just let bygones be bygones? lol I don't know what I said that pressed your 'psycho switch' but it HAPPENED, and it's over! lol I don't mind being called a nutcase, but still man, you've got me all wrong! I say we just cyber-shake on it shaka2! lol
Seriously I don't mean any harm, if I'm not being the 'nutcase' you say I am then my intentions must be sincere I extended the olive branch man! See, It's cool! lol Now, I don't really want you guys fighting; I made this board about something objective, and that applies to everyone in the astrological community, I don't think personal matters (except for opinions pertaining to the topic above) really have a place here and now; feel free to say what you want though, I just hope you use your OWN board to bash me there.....then you can say whatever you feel to your hearts content even! Everyone wins! see?

Ms. Pisces, ever since I was little I tried to be persistently positive; ever since I first saw an angel, I was just stuck on it! They were positive, and protective, and they always strove to understand EVERYTHING and grow from it; Honestly it's becuase of my sensitivity: I learn not only from my own personal experience but by listening to others; I love just listening and chatting it up with people, and not just about the lighter side of life; I've always wanted to have someone there just to talk to about anything.....the very idea of having someone who understands you in and out, and is captivated, shocked, and even amused by their little virgo son is enthralling to me; my parents weren't all that interested in me....lol I could never raise enough hell for them beucase even to this day, I have trouble with being selfish/ambitious; I don't ever, EVER want to take from someone elses mouth.
The only thing that really matters to me generally being of positive influence for people: people need someone who is a positive source in their life; I just honestly and sincerely want to be that person; I know what it is to suffer, or to lack, but by giving back, I can get back ten fold....I can reach people and just a smile from someone else means the world to me, lol I never say it enough, but it's just that true.....
I only want to change their minds for the better, and I assure you my intentions (as of THIS very minute are good on the whole; now as for the next five, who knows? lol Tongue) are positive and beneficent
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......I don't think I know what's best, but I do the best I can, and I hope people learn from it that's all, I honestly hope one day we can all be at peace with one an other and respect, hell, even admire the differences of one another; but this will only come if someone steps up and take the initiative.....even though I can't be perfect in the action, I can in it's pursuit, and in the abstract...it's closer than some people think ya know? Just by being the best person you can be, by being open and receptive to life, and it's ups and downs, you grow, and you're getting that much closer to it.
I just like hearing people being positive, and expansive.....A person that is truly open to life, will be hurt no doubt, but if you can learn from that hurt, and guide it with tolerance/understanding you become a better person for it. You won't get money for it, but you will feel a feeling of completion unlike anything else....no money or anything mundane can ever compare.....I wonder sometimes....if my parents were different, would I be the same person I am?....It's tempting....to say that all the pain can be replaced if I only wished for it, but still, I believe it's all been worth it....it made me 'sentient' of so much....it made me realize that I can relate, that I'm human, and so much more.....ya know, I used to speak this way in public, but I made people cry when I spoke, and I didn't want to do that! That went against what I was going for! lol but I just do the best I can, I can only be myself.....
I don't always know who that is specifically, or in definition, but I know that this person is a person who is aware he CAN make a difference, that he can grow....rather than sitting on his ass, he's inspiring people, he's making friends, he's growing...he's trusting and that's pretty much the best part of it all...I'm growing It's still hard for me to show my feelings straight forwardly (I'm not selfish at all, so it's hard for me to just yell at someone seriously about something that hurt me.....I don't want to hurt them and I think that my personal feelings don't matter as much as the other persons. I'm actually amazed at how my Scorpio father could be so selfish....I don't know how he is my father at all; we're like night and day....but that's for another time....)
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