Sleepin' with the Mud and the Fishes.....

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by VIRGOEXALTED on Thursday, July 26, 2007 and has 13 replies.
This is STRICTLY for water/earth signs only becuase Virgo seems to be opposition to them and a source of great anguish to them from all that I'm taking in. I cannot myself understand why there is so much trouble with this pairing....Perhaps it's just that they're not meant to be for elemental/personality qualities. Virgo is too detatched, too cerebral, to logical, too changeable ect...if Earth was TRULY the quality that Virgo was meant to be, then why is there so much of a conflict between Virgo and other water/earth types, I've even gotten some mouth from the earthy's saying Virgo is too much of something or other...but from Air signs, such as Aquarius/Gemini, and Fire signs Aries/Leo/Sagittarius I hear maches made in heaven! What the hell is going on in the Astrological community?! We seem to have more trouble with our aledged sister elements (I haven't met a water sign that I've melded with yet becuase our approaches to life are different or an earth sign I could tolerate because of their excessive need to be down in the dumps, pr cerebrally underactive) with all this said is Virgo REALLY apart of the Earth trio? I'm going by the general populations response to the Virgoan way, and I hear more positivity from the Air and Fire signs than that of the Earth, and Water signs....what do you all think?
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"water/earth signs only becuase Virgo seems to be opposition to them and a source of great anguish"
"I cannot myself understand why there is so much trouble with this pairing"
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"I haven't met a water sign that I've melded with yet becuase our approaches to life are different or an earth sign I could tolerate because of their excessive need to be down in the dumps, pr cerebrally underactive"
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One side of your mouth says you cannot understand why there is so much trouble with this pairing .. while the other side of your mouth proceeds to talk about your own inability to mesh or tolerate.
Personally .. I don't have a problem with a sign per se .. my issue with people slants more towards being ignorant of the self. If a particular sign is more ignorant than another as it pertains to their own self-awareness .. then that sign would have to be the problem sign with me.
However, that's not the case .. self-blindness is everywhere, born under every sign.
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"self-blindness is everywhere, born under every sign."
i agree, P-Angel .. ignorance is what someone does to protect themselves .. or at least what they think they should do .. ignorance is the SAME as being innocent .. BUT if a person intentionally drops one's call .. shuts the door into someone .. cut them off .. cheats .. lies .. their lives without letting the person know that they are moving out of the relationship .. flirts with someone INTENTIONALLY by kiss and telling .. by blabbing all the heartaches/frustrations to one person INSTEAD of the person INVOLVED .. that is NOT ignorance at all .. it is INTENTIONAL .. too complicated, isn't it? ..
one thing i've learned about this thing is that .. when one person CHOOSE to detach themselves in a particular situation .. or with someone .. their minds are not open for anything .. neither their hearts .. their KNOWLEDGE is minimal .. and that they "only know PIECES of it and NOT the WHOLE" ..
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"when one person CHOOSE to detach themselves in a particular situation .. or with someone .. their minds are not open for anything .. neither their hearts .. their KNOWLEDGE is minimal .. and that they "only know PIECES of it and NOT the WHOLE" .."

Agreed, vgurl .. you're right too about ignorance can be innocent, so long as it's done UNintentionally. And, I think people tend to get stuck with certain things, once they close, and can't see past that. This is the reason for what VE was talking about .. if a decision is made without allowing the mind to grow past what is preconcieved, and trying to base a future off of an erected wall .. then there's no place to go, except picking up the pieces and trying to put them in order, all the while, disregarding that the wall didn't have to be there in the first place, except in the mind, by choice because it's too frightened to look into the unknown. If a person looks, then they might have see something they don't like .. ignorance.
It all comes back to that, doesn't it?
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it's all about one's choice .. to build a bridge or a wall .. from every stone that their partners are giving them everyday ..
some can be really professional in playing ignorant .. there are tons of them out there .. and that's such a scary scene ..
am sooo thankful, P-Angel .. am past that stage .. been there .. this is the only decision in my life that i think was the right one .. when i let go of my ex-virgo and met my leo husband .. i admit i can be really numb/dumb/ignorant/silly .. but one good thing is that .. my husband never gives me a cold treatment like MOST WOMEN here rants about .. a crystal clear communication and compromise still works best .. for me ..
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Leo men are quite warm and affectionate .. the ones I know, anyway. They can be a tad overbearing .. but, it's not pompous. It's because they truly care about their partners well-being, and want what's best.
I'm happy for you that you have a good man .. now, if the rest of us women could find one like that than we'd stop griping and complaining.
Can we clone him? smile
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it's his birthday tomorrow .. he wanted to go to the beach with the kids .. and have some barbecue .. just a simple celebration with the family .. you're right by that, P-Angel .. he warms my heart every single day .. time for me is really valuable that's how i see love .. if my partner obviously don't have time for me .. it only means that he doesn't care about me at all .. we don't have a perfect relationship .. it was never easy to love someone .. it's full of responsibilities .. and i don't even want to sound like some metaphysical queen .. but there has been really no failures in my life right now .. only tremendous lessons .. maybe that's what keeps me going on ..
i honestly don't see you as someone negative with regards to your relationship to your man .. he's a virgo right? anyway, i'm pretty sure you're just as happy as i am .. i can see that you'll have each other for keeps .. you seem to be a tough woman with a pleasant disposition .. smile
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lmao, Not actually, dy I'm not worried about keeping tally with whom is winning a petty argument; I was talking theoretically about the aledged pairing of this sign; the way I see it, Pisces and Virgo have about as much in common as Scorpio and Aquarius. Not much at all, with completely different temperments.

PAngel:One side of your mouth says you cannot understand why there is so much trouble with this pairing .. while the other side of your mouth proceeds to talk about your own inability to mesh or tolerate.
lol, P, need I even analyze this any farther? there's this little thing called a mirror and you may want to look into that a little farther or better yet, how about this old adage, 'ain't that callin' the kettle black' I was speaking theoretically if these signs we're astrologically opposite, than that would mean they would (in theory) be everything the other needed do you follow?. I'd actually rather not go into detail about this becuase I see the 'subtle tension' that lies between you and dy....I'm sure he's willing to spare his time.....
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I already know P dosen't like Virgos (what else is new in the astrological community? I see that an extended absence wouldn't make a bit of difference here). All I can say is My temperment is extroverted, which means a water sign isn't necessarily a 'match made in heaven' for these two signs. I want the astrological community to recognize this and make the necessary changes for these two. Point blank, I'm tired of hearing all this bickering about the obvious differences between the two. This has taken a once 'interesting hobby' and turned it into religious factioning. Each sign sticking to their own philosophies, which is fine, but I sought to understand these differences in the whole. Basically, this is about people fighting one another to one-up the next....this is a complete waste of time.
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ya'll are still hilarious. i'm on vacation having fun. wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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hi, i just wanted to offer my insight...
i happen to be a pisces (sun, moon, venus AND mars in pisces lol)...and two of my very best friends on the face of this earth are virgos...we complement each other in a very positive, constructive manner and there is a great level of appreciation and respect in my relationships with them...
it is quite possible to cultivate fulfilling, long-lasting friendships between opposition signs...pisces and virgo can coexist harmoniously...i know this because i experience it on a daily basis and i am thankful for it...
-jack
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VE: What the hell are you rambling on about?? Honestly, I sometimes wonder if you're not a creation of P-Angel's -- a Virgo straw man for her to knock down...
LOL LOL LOL
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Hello there VIRGOEXALTED. I have been reading some of your posts and I also find it-sorry but- kinda hard to believe you are only 18 and you seem to be very mature for your age and I am very impressed, but then again you are a virgo right? What exactly do you mean by your post? I'm not sure if i'm understanding you correctly- Are you saying that you don't meet people who challenge you intellectually? or connect with you on the 'same level'? Cause you have to understand that *no offense* but YOU are a virgo, you have high expectations, yea? So...ofcourse you are at the point in your life when you are starting to realize this and that being humankind is not perfect also again being true to your sign- you are just being critical, and also from the sounds of it- cynical. Already??? you are too young to be like that. And ofcourse Air/Fire signs may seem more positive, *again no offense to all air/fire signs* but they do talk lots, yea? Lol, sorry. I hope i'm not offending you tho cos you sound like a really nice man and i will continue to look forward to reading your posts, you seem to make a lot of sense, it's just this one that confuses me just a little. i'm new to this site and astrology and happen to be a female pisces, btw nice profile. But yes i agree with you- i feel you do have alot to say. So keep talking- i'll be reading... Virgoans are one of the most misunderstood signs- just making a point- but a very intruiging one might i add. Oh and i also happen to be very infatuated with a particular virgo.... i find him to be very sexy!! puuurrrrrrrr....
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