The Truth ....

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by P-Angel on Monday, April 25, 2011 and has 76 replies.
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It appears to me, basing this off of several threads, one of which is my generosity thread ... that Virgos cannot handle the truth about themselves.
It's normal to find a Virgo speaking highly of themselves with much pride about being upholders of the truth, and detesting liars ... but, then lie themselves and to themselves, while creating excessive drama when the truth is presented to them .... which I can only presume the reason being is to attempt to deflect this truth about them away, no nobody will notice that they actually cannot handle the truth about themselves.
Which also brings to mind another thing .. drama. They will proclaim vehemently, in many cases, to hate drama ... but, then be the ones who create it .. and usually because of what was said above.
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Kinda like you lie about having a deep seated hatred of Virgos and Geminis? Never wanting to face the truth that you purposefully hunt Gems and Virgs to pick fights? How DOES that mirror look that reflects back your own pot stirring, drama loving, 52 year old leather face previously beaten by a Gem and denied sex by a Virg? Is it pewter? Gold trim? Wrought iron? I do love iron accents on mirrors....
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Posted by P-Angel
It appears to me, basing this off of several threads, one of which is my generosity thread ... that Virgos cannot handle the truth about themselves.
It's normal to find a Virgo speaking highly of themselves with much pride about being upholders of the truth, and detesting liars ... but, then lie themselves and to themselves, while creating excessive drama when the truth is presented to them .... which I can only presume the reason being is to attempt to deflect this truth about them away, no nobody will notice that they actually cannot handle the truth about themselves.
Which also brings to mind another thing .. drama. They will proclaim vehemently, in many cases, to hate drama ... but, then be the ones who create it .. and usually because of what was said above.


You can find the same qualities in pisces, just in different areas.
Polarities!
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Noticed a pattern here. I sense troll like intent. I wonder do you desire to be what you target on many many threads that I see. I have assessed that you may be a attention wh*re and seek praise through a false sense of entitlement. But I've only been on dxp for a few months now what do I know.
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Posted by SunGem20
Where is she? Who starts a thread then doesnt come back to respond..waiting in the merky depths like a shark...ready to make her grand entrance, when the set up is so, that she cant loose...if that moment doesnt come, she will send in one of her stepford members to triumph...usually when u least expect it.


LOL a little dramatic but most likely true. smile
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I like telling her to take the cheese that grows between her oversized buttocks and eat it, but I fear she has blocked me.
No more fun for the Gem who really gets under her skin, alas, if I am not an emotional piece of blubber she doesn't want to try to get my goat.
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Isn't there ANYONE in here who's a hacker?
Can't we hack her computer, get her address so we can go stake the devil? PLEASE!???
C'mon Virgos, you guys are smarty pants, you have to have at least a friend who can do this for the sake of humanity.
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It's true.
Though, it can be circumvented if the truth is presented in a humble, non assuming way.
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Ty - Let's see the legendary screen shot!
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Dear Vulcan,
Hell no!! I am not through with this thread of "truth". In fact, let's actually begin to discuss some things that are in deed true...
1. Pisser loves me, GemsRa. She flicks her bean and clicks her mouse to my image.
2. Pisser may only have seven teeth in her head, but she manages to eat her chocolate Malt-o-Meal just fine.
3. It has been said that the black hole created by Pisser's negative energy is where scientists plan to deposit unstable nuclear bombs.
4. Pisser has such minimal power and lacks any actual substance that her words here on the boards are little more a laughable matter to most.
5. Pisser may occassionally have something insightful to say, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Nevertheless, that's not the clock I want to time my life by.
6. Geminis and Virgos fuggin rule, if only for the fact that their very existance on this lovely planet cause Pisser physical discomfort.
Love, hugs, kisses and light,
GemsRa
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(Sigh) Again? ? ?
1.....2......3.....BLAST OFF!!!
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Seems you have a skewed sense of winning... You and this guy have quite a bit in common...
Charlie Sheen's Winning Recipes from Charlie Sheen
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Posted by Cajunspirit
It's true.
Though, it can be circumvented if the truth is presented in a humble, non assuming way.



Do you hold yourself accountible for this humble, non assuming way when you are speaking a truth to another?
Or does it come out taking the tone of a critcal, accusing nature?
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Awwww baby, I'm just making an observation of concern about your observations of concern about my observations and concerns about Pisser's observations and concerns. Let's all discuss shall we? It's obvious you want to be just as much a part of this ridiculousity by making a response about not responding. Passive agressiveness at it's best. Now who doesn't give a rat's ass?
Listen, try not to respond. I'm just stirring shit up anyway... AND... I'm woman enough to admit that I'm only doing it for my own fun. In the open. No screen shot from TyDyed needed.
Wanna debate about nothing all day, but go ahead and in the beginning state that we don't care? All the best debates end that way anyway... pages and pages of ranting and raving and swaying and attempting to conform... all to later post about how we don't care.
I'll just go ahead and tell you now... I don't care. I'm siting in my hotel room, on yet another business trip, listening to clients talk about boring shit all while playing on DXP, facebook and twitter. You wanna be my bright shiny thing on dxp for a couple hours?
Go right ahead. Big Grin
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Posted by P-Angel

Do you hold yourself accountible for this humble, non assuming way when you are speaking a truth to another?
Or does it come out taking the tone of a critcal, accusing nature?


It takes a conscious effort to assert it in the humble non assuming way.
However, there will be times when we we are upset or tired, and it comes out critical.
Accusations are a different story all together.
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Posted by Let*It*Be
Your on your own hun...sorry. lol


I appreciate and accept your humble apology. smile
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I'll even let your bad grammar slide... this once.
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Posted by Cajunspirit
It takes a conscious effort to assert it in the humble non assuming way.
However, there will be times when we we are upset or tired, and it comes out critical.




Ok, so .... since it is recognized that it also comes in forms that aren't desirable, at those times, do you still see where the finger is pointing, or are you looking the pointing finger?
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Posted by P-Angel

Ok, so .... since it is recognized that it also comes in forms that aren't desirable, at those times, do you still see where the finger is pointing, or are you looking the pointing finger?



I do see where the finger is pointing, but that is where instinct steps in.
Anger takes over and that's when Virgos lash out. Like a defensive mechanism.
It is only later when I calmed down and go back to analyse what was said can we start piecing things together.
The mature acknowledge, learn, apologise if they lashed out and move forward.
The ignorant ignore and persist.
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Dear 8lb17oz Baby Jebus!!!!!!!!!
Cajun, you can't seriously be trying to have a sane conversation with "She who shall not be named".
Listen up Pisser, I see you weaving your web. Trying to spin it so delicately that you can pull that trap tight and attempt to prove your point. Here's what.... everyone has a hard time waking to harsh truths about themselves. It's called self realization and growth and it doesn't have a flipping thing to do with astrology.
Just like your misguided hatred of Geminis and Virgos really has nothing to do with astrology. Gems and Virgs and yes, even the fishes CAN all get along. It isn't your sun sign that made the men in your life hate you; it's your piss poor attitude on... well, everything.
Now I ask you....
Posted by P-Angel
since it is recognized that it also comes in forms that aren't desirable, at those times, do you still see where the finger is pointing, or are you looking the pointing finger?



Right back at you rat... Big Grin
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Posted by TyDyed

SG20: @TScared why is she a favorite on your list?
Because when P-Angel is not bashing and/or stirring up shit, she actually has some interesting and relevant points of view...


Here.... I don't even have to say anything. I'll just quote my damn self!
Posted by GemsRaGalsBestPal

5. Pisser may occassionally have something insightful to say, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. Nevertheless, that's not the clock I want to time my life by.
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Posted by GemsRaGalsBestPal

Cajun, you can't seriously be trying to have a sane conversation with "She who shall not be named".


Well, it would seem so smile
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Sssssssssshhhhhhh student. She believes it makes her appear intelligent and pondering of such greatly deep things that it is beyond our comprehension. Don't doubt the "great and insightful" one.
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Posted by GemsRaGalsBestPal
Awwww baby, I'm just making an observation of concern about your observations of concern about my observations and concerns about Pisser's observations and concerns. Let's all discuss shall we? It's obvious you want to be just as much a part of this ridiculousity by making a response about not responding. Passive agressiveness at it's best. Now who doesn't give a rat's ass?
Listen, try not to respond. I'm just stirring shit up anyway... AND... I'm woman enough to admit that I'm only doing it for my own fun. In the open. No screen shot from TyDyed needed.
Wanna debate about nothing all day, but go ahead and in the beginning state that we don't care? All the best debates end that way anyway... pages and pages of ranting and raving and swaying and attempting to conform... all to later post about how we don't care.
I'll just go ahead and tell you now... I don't care. I'm siting in my hotel room, on yet another business trip, listening to clients talk about boring shit all while playing on DXP, facebook and twitter. You wanna be my bright shiny thing on dxp for a couple hours?
Go right ahead. Big Grin


Hahahahaha!
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Posted by Let*It*Be
Well after all these years P...you still have it to bring such bitter and angry emotions to these boards lol. There must be an award for that. Winking


Sadly...I have to agree (-_-)




























Presenting said award, give it up for Mrs. Whitney Houston!

AND THE CRAZIEST CRACKHEAD AWARD GOES TO...!
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Posted by Cajunspirit
I do see where the finger is pointing, but that is where instinct steps in.
Anger takes over and that's when Virgos lash out. Like a defensive mechanism.
It is only later when I calmed down and go back to analyse what was said can we start piecing things together.
The mature acknowledge, learn, apologise if they lashed out and move forward.
The ignorant ignore and persist.




We?
If you lash out at someone because a defensive mechanism made you angry .. isn't it your job to fit the pieces?
Most people don't apologize ... I've only met a few people in this world who can admit they are wrong and apologize. I am one of those people.
Are you?
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Posted by Cajunspirit

I do see where the finger is pointing, but that is where instinct steps in.
Anger takes over and that's when Virgos lash out. Like a defensive mechanism.




I'm not sure where the anger part comes in to play. Do you mean angry because the truth exists? Or angry because someone other than yourself notices it? Or angry because .. what?

Why anger, to even make a person lash out in this defensive mechanism?
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Posted by P-Angel

I've only met a few people in this world who can admit they are wrong and apologize. I am one of those people.
Are you?


Everyone please step out of the way of the lightening bolts.
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Posted by Let*It*Be
Well after all these years P...you still have it to bring such bitter and angry emotions to these boards lol. There must be an award for that. Winking



These people are already full bitterness and angry emotions, VGM, I merely open the door for them by showing them the truth about themselves.

The never has been pretty.

Most people are mature enough to take what is beneficial and step aside from what isn't .. but, the ones who are consumed with malice are unable to, and those are the ones you see in here, incapable of helping themselves do anything different once I open the door to their psyche.
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Posted by P-Angel
once I open the door to their psyche....


Ok, please watch out not only for the lightening bolts, but now also beware flying pigs and... wait, what's that? Pisser the news just reported your home froze over.
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Posted by P-Angel
The never has been pretty.




truth ... the truth about themselves has never been pretty
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Posted by P-Angel
Posted by P-Angel
The never has been pretty.




truth ... the truth about themselves has never been pretty
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Hahahahahaha!! Hey Elle, you're not alone, even Pisser is afraid of the board's grammar moderator.
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In reality, people losing their traditional manners, What else do you expect on this site...There is no more young and Old...Old people should be the good image for the youth, Young people should respect the Old people...(pardon me to my english , because its not my native language) if I could just speak well like all of you here, i do have a lot of things to say and share with you all.....
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I joined DXP coz i thought i can learn and pick right/perfect grammar here...the grammar are ok i think, but not the meaning of every words i read...
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Posted by preciousvirgin
I joined DXP coz i thought i can learn and pick right/perfect grammar here...the grammar are ok i think, but not the meaning of every words i read...


PV - The statement I made is not what it seems. It is an ongoing joke outside of this subject thread.
I admire and can appreciate you using this forum to practice the English language. I am more than happy to help you ANYTIME you have a question. I can make myself available to you by private message here or I can also give you a personal email address to use. I love the language and would be love to have the chance to help you practice.
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Posted by P-Angel

We?


I did'nt finish re-wording my sentence. I've been accused of speaking for all Virgos, so I was re-wording it to myself.
It should read I
If you lash out at someone because a defensive mechanism made you angry .. isn't it your job to fit the pieces?


Indeed it is.
I let go of my pride and make amends, but only if I can see and understand where I am wrong.
In my immaturity, I often would'nt care and would just let those people phase out of my life. I saw them as owing to me.
Most people don't apologize ... I've only met a few people in this world who can admit they are wrong and apologize. I am one of those people.
Are you?


I am and I try to be. It is always a battle with pride though.
Posted by P-Angel

I'm not sure where the anger part comes in to play. Do you mean angry because the truth exists? Or angry because someone other than yourself notices it? Or angry because .. what?
Why anger, to even make a person lash out in this defensive mechanism?
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Angry because someone else notices it and brings it across in a "perceived" harsh or aggressive way.
Our sensitivity and perception often betrays us, going on body language, tone and what was said.
Life is about learning our faults and fighting off our instincts, to be better people and not give into our selfishness and insecurities, in my point of view.
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Posted by GemsRaGalsBestPal
Posted by preciousvirgin
I joined DXP coz i thought i can learn and pick right/perfect grammar here...the grammar are ok i think, but not the meaning of every words i read...


PV - The statement I made is not what it seems. It is an ongoing joke outside of this subject thread.
I admire and can appreciate you using this forum to practice the English language. I am more than happy to help you ANYTIME you have a question. I can make myself available to you by private message here or I can also give you a personal email address to use. I love the language and would be love to have the chance to help you practice.
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Great!!!.......I appreciate that BestPal...Thank you very much.....Kiss
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Posted by SunGem20
Posted by GemsRaGalsBestPal
Posted by preciousvirgin
I joined DXP coz i thought i can learn and pick right/perfect grammar here...the grammar are ok i think, but not the meaning of every words i read...


PV - The statement I made is not what it seems. It is an ongoing joke outside of this subject thread.
I admire and can appreciate you using this forum to practice the English language. I am more than happy to help you ANYTIME you have a question. I can make myself available to you by private message here or I can also give you a personal email address to use. I love the language and would be love to have the chance to help you practice.

'and would be love to' I guess even you make some mistakes....slow down cowgirl..we're all just a bunch of fools remember?


Posted by SunGem20
What happened in that hotel room ?
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Shit! LOL! I didn't even catch it on my re-read.... DAY-YUM!!!
I'm watching that new show "The Voice". Are you watching? I swear it has given me chills quite a few times.
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Send me over some? I'm STILL waiting on Heather's ass so we can go out for cocktails.... *tap, tap, mudda fuggin impatient tap*
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Posted by Cajunspirit
Life is about learning our faults and fighting off our instincts, to be better people and not give into our selfishness and insecurities, in my point of view.




I don't agree with the fighting off the instincts part, however, I get what you mean since these instincts make you want to express anger. I find myself completely opposite to that in that I don't get angry hardly at all, and have to force myself to get mad, when needed.
To be better people and not give in to selfishness and insecurities is a big one to learn in life ... so since we are talking about facing the truth of ones self, wouldn't it be better to own these, rather than not?
Maybe the whole reason why people cannot handle the truth is because they think that to face them is to be them.
It's possible to look at if you are selfish or insecure, for this very growth, without having to be those things.
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Posted by P-Angel

I don't agree with the fighting off the instincts part, however, I get what you mean since these instincts make you want to express anger. I find myself completely opposite to that in that I don't get angry hardly at all, and have to force myself to get mad, when needed.


A testament to being polar opposites, perhaps?
To be better people and not give in to selfishness and insecurities is a big one to learn in life ... so since we are talking about facing the truth of ones self, wouldn't it be better to own these, rather than not?


To own the truth?
It is, but it takes personal insight and strength to do so.
Maybe the whole reason why people cannot handle the truth is because they think that to face them is to be them.


Not certain of your meaning here.
To be the truth which upsets them?
It's possible to look at if you are selfish or insecure, for this very growth, without having to be those things.
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Again, not sure what you mean here.
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What I meant was .... if a person faced a part of themselves, the truth about themselves on a a particular trait .. then they might feel like they HAVE to be that.
Like, hypothetically, what if you were struggling to with your sexuality ... and it scard you that you might be one way or the other, and you couldn't the truth of it, because if you looked at the fact that like men, then you might HAVE to be queer.
In that scenario, just because you like men, doesn't mean you HAVE to be anything of the sort. It isn't a requirement that you be any way what so ever, just because a part of the truth about you is that you like men.

And that's what I was meaning .... maybe the whole reason why people cannot face the truth about themselves is because might HAVE to BE those things.
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Posted by P-Angel
What I meant was .... if a person faced a part of themselves, the truth about themselves on a a particular trait .. then they might feel like they HAVE to be that.
It isn't a requirement that you be any way what so ever, just because a part of the truth about you is that you like men.


Life is about choices, and our choices are influenced by so many things.
I agree, just because you realise a truth, doesn't mean you have to live it. It's your choice whether or not to fight it or be it.
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Posted by P-Angel
Like, hypothetically, what if you were struggling to with your sexuality ...
In that scenario, just because you like men, doesn't mean you HAVE to be anything of the sort. It isn't a requirement that you be any way what so ever, just because a part of the truth about you is that you like men.




a dig that's not a dig but is a dig? HA!


on a side note, the dude with the gay avi IS maturing. he is not responding defensively and long ago, he would have.
overall, i think what he's said is very true of virgo. every sign has to learn how to accept that their positives have a negative. in an immature state, it's difficult to distinguish one from the other. in a mature state, you learn to recognize when you're operating in the negative far more readily. the negative will never go away, you simply learn how to not allow those energies to overcome you.
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with respect to immature virgos, i think perceptions of harm in the face of truth are a struggle. the response to criticism is anger, hypocrisy, blaming, defensiveness, evasion and distance.
virgo needs to learn how to do away with "yeah, well what about you?"
i think this is sorta what crypticfish is trying to communicate. very simply, how does this "saintly" sign learn how to accept/acknowledge its own imperfections? as the sign of "perfection," wouldn't it stand to reason they'd have difficulty OPENLY accepting/acknowledging imperfection within themselves?

what's cool for me is that in knowing tons of virgos and now pisces, it's easier to see where each has the potential to go wrong...
virgo forgives your faults. you're imperfect, but they'll "fix" you. ie, "how can YOU be better?"
but you'll never be perfect and this leads to hurt and resentment for both the virgo and the other.
pisces apologizes for theirs. you're imperfect, but pisces will "fix" themselves. ie, "how can I be better?"
but they'll never be perfect and this leads to hurt and resentment for both the pisces and the other.

what if virgo learned how to apologize and face the reality that virgo is NOT perfect? ie, face the truth.
lack of perfection does not make virgo imperfect. insistence of and on perfection does.
a "perfect" state is unachievable, even by you and by virtue of this reality, it gradually becomes easier to stop pointing at others "lack of" and acknowledge your own shortcomings.
"i'm sorry."
"it was my fault"
"i was wrong."
i think the more that virgo learns to embrace these concepts, the better they will be in relationships.
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Yeah right, hell would freeze over first
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Posted by CLCNY30
Posted by Let*It*Be
Well after all these years P...you still have it to bring such bitter and angry emotions to these boards lol. There must be an award for that. Winking


Sadly...I have to agree (-_-)





















Presenting said award, give it up for Mrs. Whitney Houston!

AND THE CRAZIEST CRACKHEAD AWARD GOES TO...!
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How dark it must be that everyone's misery is one person's satisfaction.
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Yea, who likes stories with happy endings anyway? Wait...who said that?
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My question is for all virgo men. why is it that when cancer women share our deepest secrets with yall in the mix of an argument you throw it back in our face knowing that it gonna hurt us. Why are virgo men so critical with there words towards women is it that there trying to intentionally hurt us in the worse possible way. How do virgo men really feel about a cancer woman. Sometime i feel that virgo men dont appreciate a good cancer woman who does any and everything for them and this is why we get crushed at the end. Why do virgo men feel that cancer women are sneaky and that we are cheaters, like do they really misunderstand cancer woman because we are sometimes shy or we hold back alot? i need answers.
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You are not alone ..... many, many, many women come for the same reason.

That in itself says it all.

If it were one, or two, or even three ... then we could look at it being just an individual thing of the man .... but, it's hundreds of woman saying the same thing.
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