this virgo guy i know

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by novallia on Monday, February 5, 2007 and has 8 replies.
just a few questions here.
do virguys find it hard to communicate openly or show what they're really feeling?
do they only show their real selves (be it good or bad) to people they're extremely comfortable about and as such exhibit various behaviours under different circumstances/around different people?
are virgos reclusive under normal circumstances and would this worsen if he has issues i.e, family problems (divorced parents). would this make him harder to 'reach' emotionally?
are they always harsh with their words? do they ever say 'nice' things in a straightforward manner or do all of them have to do in it that roundabout way of theirs?
when a virgo doesn't want to do something, is it wise to leave him as it is or is there even a chance of him changing his mind?
is it common for there to be an on and off kind of relationship with a virgo?
do virgos ever take on an active (i.e, not passive) role in maintaining contact in a friendship?
i've known this guy for around 6 years, i feel like i know him so well but yet at times he can seem like a stranger. he's often labelled as the guy with an attitude problem in school. we can talk into the wee hours some days and then go without talking for weeks. he's not always there, but i know i can count on him to be there when i really need him. i feel he cares in his own way.
like if i had a problem i wanted to talk about, i'd really prefer to do it over the phone, but then he'd come up with all sorts of excuses not to. i'd text him saying it's ok and that i'd look for someone else, but he replies saying that he wouldn't mind going online and i could tell him over msn.
there are other things he does which makes me feel like i actually am important to him, sometimes. he could spend 2 hours teaching me physics/chemistry over the phone until 1 in the morning even though there's school the next day. he remembered my favourite song even though i told him about it a year ago in passing. he does many other little things noone would usually consider especially nice of course, but because it comes from him and he's usually so aloof and reclusive, it feels really special.
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but then of course there are the bad side of things. because he's so aloof and passive, i'm usually the one initiating all of our conversations. i'd have to ask him to tell me how his life's been, tell him when i have a problem, ask him for help, and even when we have a disagreement over something, i'm usually the one who gives in and tries to resolve things. i'm almost certain that if i hadn't been starting all our conversations, he wouldn't have ever initiated them and we'd have drifted apart long ago. sometimes i feel like i'm actually desperate to keep this friendship going, and it's a horrible thing because i feel like i'm lowering myself just so i won't lose him. i'm really tired of being the one responsible for our friendship.
sometimes i feel like i am the most important female friend in his life, because at least we have proper conversations, though all were initiated by me. but normally he responds in a way that shows that he likes conversing with me, although it certainly doesn't reflect in his not starting conversations in all the time i've known him. i'm still trying to figure this out..any ideas? or could it be because he's just being polite?
he has few close friends, but many admirers. i like to see him as just a close friend, but because he has no other close female friends, people like to think we're together. and given his personality and my understanding of him, i think this would scare him off and make him close up even more. i admit i care too much for him, more than i care for most of my other friends and i'm not closing off that possibility but for now i'd like to know how i can draw him out of his shell and make him more open in communicating with me. i think he's like that because of family issues. or is there something wrong with our friendship since i seem to always be the one initiating conversations and such? should i stop doing this before i seem too desperate?
this is the most stressful friendship i've had because with all my other friends, they spoil me and give in to me mostly. but with him, i seem to be the one giving in all the time. i always thought that as a real friend i should try to understand him as best as possible so i brush off hurtful things he says sometimes but i'm starting to think i should stop doing so and just move on because for all i know he might be like that simply because he doesn't care for our friendship.
i'm cancer by the way.
it feels really good just typing all this out and finally getting it out of me smile
"do virgos ever take on an active (i.e, not passive) role in maintaining contact in a friendship?
No."

why not?
Novilla, are you sure we are not seeing the same virgo? lol
i really think it is the virgo/gemini combination that brings forth that attitude.
hahaha well i guess it could manifest itself in many forms. i guess it's not really consistent since human beings are all so different. my best friend is a gemini sun/virgo moon and she has the same attitude as branh about it.
"do virgos ever take on an active (i.e, not passive) role in maintaining contact in a friendship?
No."
ok so what do I make out of this: I've dated this virgo dude for the past 4 month or so. Well, let me define "date"...we hung out sometimes, talked on the phone for hours, went riding together (we both have horses) everything was fine. He came over for new years, spent the night we BBQ'd, all good. Jan 2nd was my b-day, he spent all day with me. Had to go home for a bit to see if he had to go work. But then decided to come back to my place, no problems there. and since then I've seen him 1 time 3 weeks ago! I've talked to him on the phone a few times, but not like before and he was cranky a couple of times. So I decided to just not call and I'm just about over it. Out of the blue he called me saturday morning on his way to work and again last night. We talked for over an hour like we used to.
So why does he keep calling?????? lol

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