Virgals being a pain in the ass

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by CappGuy6330 on Saturday, April 20, 2013 and has 33 replies.
Interesting topic for you guys today lol, I'm a Cap guy and am in a relationship with a Virgal. Wonderful woman, I see a future with her. I go in to more detail in a thread titled "hellcat(s)" if you guys want an "up until now" type of update. I just feel like typing a paragraph lol! Anyhoo, things couldn't be better, and this topic is more sexually oriented. We're getting into kinky shit, with some possible light BDSM in the future, more specifically, breathplay. I tried it, but I wasn't feeling it, kinda made me wanna fight. (idk, Army thing?) She loves it, but I was reading about possible dangers, (I'm the Dom, she's the sub, btw.) and I found that choking on the front of the throat, has nerves or some pressure points somewhere n if you hit it wrong, it can make the heart stop. no cardiac arrest, just stop. like drop dead. So, this scared the B.S. out of me. Like bad. Sad So, I voiced this concern to her, n it seemed as though she took it as me not wanting to choke her at all, and it seemed as if she was unconcerned with the safety issue, tho she expressed that she loves how much I care, like a lot. She then tried to debate the topic by having me send her the 5 articles that said the same thing. It was at this point I told her it's non-negotiable. I offered a lot of other ways that have the same desired effect, tho they take more of a comfort thing. Plus vomiting from lack of oxygen. She also she was saddened by the fact it won't happen anymore. She's the best, most devoted girlfriend i've ever had, but SUCH a pain in the ass. I just dont see the need for a debate, is it just the sake of a debate or is she just not concerned with the safety issue at all? I would think that on account of possible instant death, it would kill the need for a debate. Am I wrong?
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She wants to see proof I guess but if someone told me that ...Id try to find out for myself.
*goes to Google wtf breath play is all about*
Carry on ....
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Debating is flirting lol
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?? "There is a nerve in the throat that can stop the heart BAM just like that (the vargus nerve, a target in some martial arts) "
Yeah I'd have to pass on the breath play lol....that can be some serious shit :/
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Some people like the thrill. In Brazilian Jui Jitzu they teach you to do chokes in a way as to not damage the laranyx. there is definitely a possibility of irreversible damage.
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OMG I googled how to safely choke your partner and all these site headings came up darkened because they've already been clicked on wth is my bf up to!!?
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Posted by virgodreamz
OMG I googled how to safely choke your partner and all these site headings came up darkened because they've already been clicked on wth is my bf up to!!?


:/
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lol
Anyway though
Is the GF into choking for to feel dominated or is it for the physical sensation of lightheadedness?
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Lololol.
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I'm all for kinky shit but Id have to say my love of air kinda tops the list lol
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Posted by BalmyTigress
I don't know about the Virgo point of view, but the fact is that it indeed is possible to get that whole thing wrong and on top of everything else, you'd end up with a body in your hands (quite literally), and I don't think the legal system would give you a free pass just because it was consensual.
Also, if that's your dynamic and you've already stated that it's non-negotiable, and for a good reason, then you need to enforce the dynamic if she's still going on about it. I'm sure there's a bit of pain you can inflict upon her ass :-)


hahahaha!!! she loves a good smack on her butt hehehe, yeah, that's my concern, i don't want a corpse on my hands, especially my girlfriend's. I suggested gas masks, n various gags, or i do a rear chokehold in doggie, which is actually much safer. smile
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Posted by LostinmyMind11
She wants to see proof I guess but if someone told me that ...Id try to find out for myself.
*goes to Google wtf breath play is all about*
Carry on ....


LOL, it's new to me too, i didn't know there was a technical term for choking.
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Posted by christinelovessnickers
Some people like the thrill. In Brazilian Jui Jitzu they teach you to do chokes in a way as to not damage the laranyx. there is definitely a possibility of irreversible damage.


yeah, that's what i'm saying! i was in the army for a term, n in combat training they taught us Brazilian jujitsu. Grapples, chokeholds, bone breaks, joint manipulation, etc. i do the rear choke hold on her all the time, it's her fav smile
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Posted by virgodreamz
OMG I googled how to safely choke your partner and all these site headings came up darkened because they've already been clicked on wth is my bf up to!!?


LOL!!!! uh oh!! ;P
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Posted by virgodreamz
lol
Anyway though
Is the GF into choking for to feel dominated or is it for the physical sensation of lightheadedness?


I think it's a lil of both, i did it the other day n i couldve sworn she turned a shade of purple :/ She's stated in the past that she's always been the dominant one, but girls usually give in to my dominance for some reason, I don't even really feel like I exert it. I dominate her in plenty of other ways, so I think it's more on the lightheaded-ness side to increase the feeling of an orgasm. I'm only interested in it because it's for her, it pleases me to her satisfied. smile
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Posted by LostinmyMind11
I'm all for kinky shit but Id have to say my love of air kinda tops the list lol


HAHAHAHA!!!! I'm with you on that smile
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Posted by Impulsv
It could be addicting once experienced this intensity that can no longer happen naturally. People go to extremes.


Yeah, i've heard some crazy stuff. belts and plastic bags!? people are idiots. you have to maximize safety.
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Posted by virgodreamz
OMG I googled how to safely choke your partner and all these site headings came up darkened because they've already been clicked on wth is my bf up to!!?


LMAO!! +10000000. trust a virgo to note this hahaha
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Posted by memyself
Posted by virgodreamz
OMG I googled how to safely choke your partner and all these site headings came up darkened because they've already been clicked on wth is my bf up to!!?


LMAO!! +10000000. trust a virgo to note this hahaha
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Hahahaha!!!
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Not good.Dig deep in your Cap bag of tricks and find some other way "to get her there".Show her medical evidence.This is great way to stroke out if it doesn't harm her more.Show her that story about that couple who she tied up and gagged bf then left to have sex with a known third party.He's suppose to get free and go there with them.He didn't make it the last time.Appeal to her Virgo-ality-how do you explain your private habits to a D.A.,family and friends if things go wrong.Her obituary and story that goes with it,does she want that,the last thing people think of her,a porn footnote?!Explore s&m from around the world,maybe something will appeal to her.She obviously trusts you to take lead.It hard to refuse a Cap that knows what he's doing.
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VirgoDreamz- if he's not doing this with you,then who-I'm that suspicious or is he waiting to have that little "talk" with you??
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Posted by VullcanLazz
Not good.Dig deep in your Cap bag of tricks and find some other way "to get her there".Show her medical evidence.This is great way to stroke out if it doesn't harm her more.Show her that story about that couple who she tied up and gagged bf then left to have sex with a known third party.He's suppose to get free and go there with them.He didn't make it the last time.Appeal to her Virgo-ality-how do you explain your private habits to a D.A.,family and friends if things go wrong.Her obituary and story that goes with it,does she want that,the last thing people think of her,a porn footnote?!Explore s&m from around the world,maybe something will appeal to her.She obviously trusts you to take lead.It hard to refuse a Cap that knows what he's doing.


Ah, VulcanLazz, I was hoping you would respond. Probably should've just pm'ed you directly, ah well. Coincidentally, I was just over her place, we were doing our thing, and she brings it up again. She's trying to reach a compromise about it, and said I should hear her out. Maybe I should have, but I stopped her right there and said it's non-negotiable with extra emphasis. She immediately said she doesn't wanna fight n shut down. I said again that I find it odd that she's still trying to debate something that COULD kill her. That and the fact of how much that thought bothers me but she still will not drop it. Even on the first day I said no to her, I later tried to bring it up (this was a few days ago) and she said the convo's over. (unless she decides to bring it up again) Basically, we left it in silence n ended the night in silence. This is unfortunately one of the things I absolutely refuse to budge on the subject. I brought up the fact of INSTANT DEATH and that it didn't come from a single article, more like 7. I just don't understand why she feels she needs to keep pushing the envelope, cuz I'm starting to get real mad about it. I didn't get into the D.A. scenario in terms of details, but I do feel I relayed the important things, like dropping dead at the snap of your fingers. WTF.
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Also, I still choke her the safer way, with the rear choke hold while in doggie, apparently that's not good enough. She seems to think I refusing to choke her completely when it's not the case. What a ridiculous thing to argue about!!! I always say pick your battles, always on deaf ears it falls.
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So, I sent her some articles supporting my decision. She told me they were unnecessary. As if bringing up a finished conversation isn't? c'mon! I get the feeling it's only a 2 way street when it's convenient for her.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
Choke the BITCH!


ahahahaha ^
@Vulcan Lazz
Knowing him I doubt he'd bring it up. If let's say we are watching TV and the topic comes up in a show then he'll make round about comments to feel me out about where I stand. Or if I bring it up he'll run with it.
If he wants to to it as dominating role play stuff fine, I'm in, but if it's as Cap said to enhance an orgasm by choking me to death forget it he can make those plans with someone else.
I'll set him up with Cap's GF for the night. Thread resolved.
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*to do it
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Posted by virgodreamz
Posted by CluelessCancer
Choke the BITCH!


ahahahaha ^
@Vulcan Lazz
Knowing him I doubt he'd bring it up. If let's say we are watching TV and the topic comes up in a show then he'll make round about comments to feel me out about where I stand. Or if I bring it up he'll run with it.
If he wants to to it as dominating role play stuff fine, I'm in, but if it's as Cap said to enhance an orgasm by choking me to death forget it he can make those plans with someone else.
I'll set him up with Cap's GF for the night. Thread resolved.

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LMFAO!!! Maybe we can switch cuz I like the role playing n not down with the choking. We got into another fight even after I gave her the articles. I think i'm on the verge of breaking it off with this chick if this type of crap continues. I feel as though my concern for her safety doesn't matter. I told her if she wants to turn into a corpse it won't be me doing it. Fuck that shit, one of you guys who posted about the D.A. scenario was dead on. I'm not dealing with a murder charge just cuz my girlfriend wants to be choked a specific way. This whole fight just seems so beyond what it should be. I told her I needed a few days to myself n maybe i'll see her later in the week. This crap is too much to handle right now.
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Posted by BalmyTigress
Like I said...ass whooping...


Gave her a spanking the other night, she asked for more LOL! I just don't see an exit plan unless she backs off with this crap. If your partner is obviously uncomfortable, wouldn't you stop? F*cking mind boggling!!!!
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Posted by BalmyTigress
Posted by CappGuy6330
Posted by BalmyTigress
Like I said...ass whooping...


Gave her a spanking the other night, she asked for more LOL! I just don't see an exit plan unless she backs off with this crap. If your partner is obviously uncomfortable, wouldn't you stop? F*cking mind boggling!!!!


Not funishment type of spanking. The type of spanking that's actually painful, doesn't last long and is irregular in tempo. Then tell her to write you a 1000 word essay about why you're right and she's wrong on this matter. You've stated that you're uncomfortable and that it's non-negotiable, yet she's still continuing. She's being a brat.
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ooooooh! I never even thought about it like that! Idk though, I'd honestly feel bad inflicting pain on a girl for reasons other than funishment. It's kinda against my morals :/ I agree with you on her being a brat. More like a cry baby who got her candy taken. I know that she gets upset if I refuse to talk to her, or give her the silent treatment, doesn't get to see me, etc. In the past I've usually employed this tactic. Although silent treatment is childish in itself, but I've found that silence does more damage than yelling, but i'd be verbally tearing her a new butthole if I didn't take time to myself. She's got me so pissed with her right now. So, the way I see it, silence or not, she's gonna get hurt. but i'd much rather take the silent path cuz I really do not like yelling at people.
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She probably break up with me if I spanked her to hurt her. I'd probably be filled with regret. I appreciate the notion tho smile
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Yeah she is being ridiculous! You're not comfortable doing it and that should be enough (well besides the obvious instant death, which should be number 1 reason! lol). Id tell her tough shit...dont like it, dont let the door hit ya on the way out..
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Posted by BalmyTigress
Posted by CappGuy6330
She probably break up with me if I spanked her to hurt her. I'd probably be filled with regret. I appreciate the notion tho smile


Yet she'd be fine with you choking her to death :-)
The only reason I gave that advice was because you stated that your dynamic is D/s. Now it sounds like it's d/S Winking To each their own, obviously. No judgement here.
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Ah yes, glad you pointed that out. I should have been more clear before, sorry. We're not into the culture and life style of BDSM, just throwing ideas around to get a sense of what she would be into at a later date, versus what she's comfortable with now. We've been together a month maybe a lil more, but went to high school together. We always had feelings for each other, though neither one knew until this past February. When I had originally stated D/s, should have clarified. She says she usually goes complete submissive in relationships but the opposite when not. I'm always dominant through and through, though I don't always like to wield it unless it's necessary. Occasionally, I like to be dominated, kind of, but I usually fight back (not literally) so there haven't been that many girls in my past who can do it like I want them to. Idk if I even know what way I want it LOL. Basically, I feel equal to her in terms of dominance, though sometimes the balance shifts, as expected. But it usually goes back to the proper balance.
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Posted by LostinmyMind11
Yeah she is being ridiculous! You're not comfortable doing it and that should be enough (well besides the obvious instant death, which should be number 1 reason! lol). Id tell her tough shit...dont like it, dont let the door hit ya on the way out..


I agree, it's getting to that point. A rational mind would hear instant death and scream F*** That!!! I'm at my wit's end, there's nothing more I can say other than to start repeating myself, which is even more annoying.
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