Virgo help needed!!

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by TruePisces5 on Thursday, January 16, 2014 and has 50 replies.
Would a Virgo man kiss and give oral sex to a woman he wasn't interested in or would it all be for sex only?
Oh my. I think I may be too young for this post...
@PVAF there's a post I made earlier explaining the whole situation. It's long but to be brief I did explain to him in the beginning that a FWB relationship isn't what I'm interested in. He's made some improvement in his consistency with communication but if you know Virgos, you know they're hard to put a finger on sometimes.
@LadyOfRebirth he has said to me that sex isn't all that he wants because he can always get it elsewhere and that he'd like to get to know me. He never comes over and jump into being intimate we usually cuddle and talk first, he'll even fall asleep holding me sometimes without us doing any thing
Posted by TruePisces5
@PVAF there's a post I made earlier explaining the whole situation. It's long but to be brief I did explain to him in the beginning that a FWB relationship isn't what I'm interested in. He's made some improvement in his consistency with communication but if you know Virgos, you know they're hard to put a finger on sometimes.




And yet, because you have no principals ..... you fuck him at his every whim.
You tell him "no" ... the drop your panties for him.
If people actually read your other post .... they would see that what you say, and what you do ... isn't the same.
and look at your last sentence quoted above in where you blame the Virgo for you being an idiot.
Lol not necessarily, she could ask about his intent, then if he says he is in fact looking for "something more" measure his actions to his words.


I've asked what his intent was because he seems to believe that I think all he wants is sex (which is true) but his response to me thinking that way is that he's looking to get to know someone and from my understanding Virgos love to love but want to get to know their potential lover first and it's hard to determine if that is his true intent because we're intimate every time we see each other. Don't get me wrong, it's not just him that starts the sexual encounters. I'm a sensual Pisces who loves sex too and would sometimes initiate. Am I wrong for what I'm allowing or should I from having sex and see what it really is?
Posted by Ixion120
One of these days I will learn how to bold stuff on here I swear lol


Ixion, type the less than and the greater than signs (with the letter b in between them) at the beginning of the quote you want to bold, then the less than and greater than signs again (with /b between them) at the end of the quote.
bam!
Posted by Ixion120
One of these days I will learn how to bold stuff on here I swear lol


Lol I have know idea how to do that either. I just figured out how to include y'all replies into my message.
TruePisces, is he initiating phone calls, texts, emails, etc? Has he made an efforts to take you out for dinner, movies, etc or is it primarily just him and you in private? Is he making an effort to want to introduce you his friends or be in public with you? You really do need to measure his words against his actions.
Sounds like you have a decision to make whether or not you trust him... and in regards to sex.....If you can't trust the person...you probably shouldn't be having sex with them.
Where's the "like" button on here?
Posted by houstonpeach74
TruePisces, is he initiating phone calls, texts, emails, etc? Has he made an efforts to take you out for dinner, movies, etc or is it primarily just him and you in private? Is he making an effort to want to introduce you his friends or be in public with you? You really do need to measure his words against his actions.


He does initate contact because i do not chase him. I'll sometimes call him to see how he's doing (keeping it brief) and say i'll call him back but sometimes don't. No he hasn't introduced me to anyone yet but has shown me pics of his children. Our encounters only take place at mine or his house in private because he says he doesn't want to spend any money since he's looking to by a home. Me being a homebody is sometimes ok with that.
And you're ok with his lack of pursual? I think you're settling.
LOL @ Ixion.
enjoying the bold now, Ixion? Winking
Posted by houstonpeach74
enjoying the bold now, Ixion? Winking


Lol. That he is!
Hmm, is he a homebody himself?

Very much so. He's always at home or at work when we talk.
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
I don't know, I'd be wary of a guy that doesn't take you out at all it only wants to see you at night.


True. I know what to do from here on out. I'm not that emotionally involved with him yet.
Posted by TruePisces5
@PVAF there's a post I made earlier explaining the whole situation. It's long but to be brief I did explain to him in the beginning that a FWB relationship isn't what I'm interested in. He's made some improvement in his consistency with communication but if you know Virgos, you know they're hard to put a finger on sometimes.


Some men will try to get you to do FWB anyway. They'll lure you in, then only want FWB. Only way to prevent that is to not have sex with them until they've proven they're into the relationship and not the sex.
According to her other thread ..... she tells him she won't have a fwb, she tells him that she wants more ... then waits by the phone for him to call, so she can go fuck him in an attempt to try and catch him into wanting her as a person.

It's sad, really ... women these days have no clue that they're tramps, they think they are actually working the guy, when in reality, the only thing she accomplishes is slutting herself.
Posted by TruePisces5
Lol not necessarily, she could ask about his intent, then if he says he is in fact looking for "something more" measure his actions to his words.



I've asked what his intent was because he seems to believe that I think all he wants is sex (which is true) but his response to me thinking that way is that he's looking to get to know someone and from my understanding Virgos love to love but want to get to know their potential lover first and it's hard to determine if that is his true intent because we're intimate every time we see each other. Don't get me wrong, it's not just him that starts the sexual encounters. I'm a sensual Pisces who loves sex too and would sometimes initiate. Am I wrong for what I'm allowing or should I from having sex and see what it really is?

It's your own fault you don't know whether it's just sex or not. Had you held out, you wouldn't have to wonder.
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
I don't know, I'd be wary of a guy that doesn't take you out at all it only wants to see you at night.


+100000000
Posted by P-Angel
According to her other thread ..... she tells him she won't have a fwb, she tells him that she wants more ... then waits by the phone for him to call, so she can go fuck him in an attempt to try and catch him into wanting her as a person.

It's sad, really ... women these days have no clue that they're tramps, they think they are actually working the guy, when in reality, the only thing she accomplishes is slutting herself.


Thread after thread after thread.

His intent doesn't matter .... seems like the OP and the responders are focused on him.

He's not here ... what is your justification in talking about him, and his intent. None of you have any fucking clue what his intent is, because he hasn't spoke.

she is here ... her actions and intent is what can be addressed.

To talk about him is gossiping about 2nd hand information that came from a person who is emotionally biased, because of investment.

But, the truth of that doesn't stop anyone, will it?

I just can't get past how you actually describe your game play, and ask us how you're doing playing it ... as if it's a given .... you appear to have no clue that it isn't normal.
AS do some of the responders.
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
I don't know, I'd be wary of a guy that doesn't take you out at all it only wants to see you at night.



See, I don't get you saying that, as all .... because it insinuates that she's being taken advantage of ... when in reality, she realizes this move, according to what she has said, and then she plans her next move, to then await his next move ... rinse and repeat.
So, how is it justified in presuming that only HIS movement should be measured for validity in terms of sincerity?

Posted by TruePisces5
The first time we met he was affectionate ... it didn't take long before we were intimate
I proceeded to tell him that I was more interested in building a friendship than a FWB.
.... he reached out asking to see me again. We were intimate a 2nd time and again I told him I'd want more down the line, he agreed.
I heard nothing from him .... I sent a message telling him that if he wasn't interested as I expected, he could've said that because I'm strong enough to handle anything thrown at me (no reply).
He finally called.
I called back the next day asking him "why he'd called me?"





For the life of me, I cannot figure out how every person with the capability of reading comprehension cannot reason out she plays a game.
She actually did type in here that she sent him a guilt-trip text, and then when she responded to it, she asks why he called.

Oh well, what can you do?

I don't know what the fucking problem is ..... women never used to be like this. Women used be revered for their dignity and grace.
People have been ruined, emotionally.
Children aren't pushed to grow up ... hell, now the government is letting them stay at home on mommy's couch until 26 years old ... so long as parents get the tax break, they'll keep changing 24 year-olds nappy.

It's a shame, really
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Posted by P-Angel
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
I don't know, I'd be wary of a guy that doesn't take you out at all it only wants to see you at night.



See, I don't get you saying that, as all .... because it insinuates that she's being taken advantage of ... when in reality, she realizes this move, according to what she has said, and then she plans her next move, to then await his next move ... rinse and repeat.
So, how is it justified in presuming that only HIS movement should be measured for validity in terms of sincerity?



That's a very good point. I was trying to give her a heads up that he's really not that invested in her. She's definitely not a victim, nor is she innocent.
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Lol. I didn't say I was perfect and I'm surely no ones fool. My thought process is far more advanced than your average female. I'm a Pisces, we're intuitive so I've already played out the many possibilities of this situation. I just wanted the notions of others on the situation. Big Grin
Posted by houstonpeach74



This I will do! Thank you!
Posted by Sagtastic1
TruePisces5
Don't get caught in the negative, childish name calling. You are your own person and it is your life. Use your intuition and don't let others opinions (good or bad) influence you. And don't forget to use you MIND too.


Thanks Sag! I'm not paying P-Angel any mind. I'll just let her speak to herself because I have no time for negativity. Big Grin
Posted by TruePisces5
Would a Virgo man kiss and give oral sex to a woman he wasn't interested in ... for sex only?


Yes.
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
Posted by PVAF
Posted by LadyOfRebirth
P might not have the most gentle approach but she's a lot more honest than most people here.


Yes, her definition of honesty. Which usually includes knee jerk reactions and projecting.


While at the same time nobody (including myself) called the OP out on the games she's been playing with the guy. P did. If the OP was truly seeking genuine advice she'd see that P was very honest with her. But a lot of people can't see through their ego being butt hurt.
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While at the same time nobody (including myself) called the OP out on the games she's been playing with the guy. P did. If the OP was truly seeking genuine advice she'd see that P was very honest with her. But a lot of people can't see through their ego being butt hurt

Again, I only wanted others' notions on the whole situation. I've been completely honest with my virgo guy so I wouldn't call it games. I'm simply acting like a lady while thinking like a man. He'll come back (men always do), even the ones who didn't get any. I've thoroughly done my research on how to handle certain Virgo men. If you've read my previous post I've let him chase me then gave in as part of my own test to see through his game and the measures he'd take to win. They love a challenge and i'm the woman to give it to them. Sometimes you have to give in though to get what you want, like in your workplace (if you hate your job), you'll suck it up and go though because you need that money. All I have to do now is continue to live my life like I've been doing because he'll be back and when he does I'll be stronger than I was before and they love that. Thanks for all of your feedback though. It will be taken into consideration. Big Grin
No games played, just being wise
Posted by TruePisces5
Would a Virgo man kiss and give oral sex to a woman he wasn't interested in or would it all be for sex only?


Are you serious?
Posted by Sagtastic1
We are no longer in the shadows of men and have made our presence KNOWN on the planet.




Yeah, as emotional clingons who are weak and desperate
Posted by PVAF
Posted by TruePisces5
Again, I only wanted others' notions on the whole situation. I've been completely honest with my virgo guy so I wouldn't call it games. I'm simply acting like a lady while thinking like a man. He'll come back (men always do), even the ones who didn't get any. I've thoroughly done my research on how to handle certain Virgo men. If you've read my previous post I've let him chase me then gave in as part of my own test to see through his game and the measures he'd take to win. They love a challenge and i'm the woman to give it to them. Sometimes you have to give in though to get what you want, like in your workplace (if you hate your job), you'll suck it up and go though because you need that money. All I have to do now is continue to live my life like I've been doing because he'll be back and when he does I'll be stronger than I was before and they love that. Thanks for all of your feedback though. It will be taken into consideration.


Do you really want a relationship built on this foundation? Oh grasshopper, you have so much to learn. Sad
I think you're gonna end up the loser in this "game." But as I said, I don't believe in pushing my views on others. You will most likely do what you deem necessary to keep this man. Is he worth it though?
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No I do not want to a build a relationship off of this! Considering all of the helpful feedback given I am not looking to do anything right now but to stand my ground. I am not a complete fool. I'm very educated and fully aware that what I am doing is not the way to keep or get a man.
Posted by TruePisces5
Would a Virgo man kiss and give oral sex to a woman he wasn't interested in or would it all be for sex only?


This sounds like a bad "Abstinence" advertisement for High School students.
Get your rocks off...but don't go all the way. Keep that hymen intact. smile
Remain a Virgin until your wedding night.
Thanks, you're such a peach.
Posted by TruePisces5

No I do not want to a build a relationship off of this!


Not looking for a relationship.
Physical orgasm.
Hymen Intact

Brought to you by the new public service announcement of 2014.
"You're worth waiting for."

Posted by LilyTree

What's wrong with staying a virgin till your wedding day? And oral sex counts as sex.


There is nothing wrong with abstinence. My satire was based on the OP's introduction to the sex topic. I doubt that she's underaged. I somehow doubt that she's a Virgin. The question eluded to the fact that penetration wasn't implied, so this Virgo didn't 'get off.' If an orgasm was non-reciprocated, then this must be love or something serious.
...and then she asserts...or was this just a prelude to something else he wanted, and was being disingenuous about.
I'm amazed at the number of responses that were given.
The OP isn't even looking for a relationship.
The OP is definitely a game changer.....smile
Posted by TruePisces5
He'll come back (men always do), even the ones who didn't get any. I've thoroughly done my research on how to handle certain Virgo men. If you've read my previous post I've let him chase me then gave in as part of my own test to see through his game and the measures he'd take to win. They love a challenge and i'm the woman to give it to them.


Posted by LilyTree

I understood it to mean that they did, in fact, engage in intercourse but the fact that the Virgo man kissed her and gave oral meant that he may have feelings for her.



This is the response the OP wanted. ^^^^^

I don't know what the Virgo's intentions are.
I don't know him.
But I DO know what the OP's intentions are....
Using the "T*ste the Ki**y Cat" tease as a form of emotional control for a relationship that she doesn't even want.
I'm amazed that no one was cracking up.
That part you quoted TaurusBull was her response to someone about not wanting a relationship based on that foundation. She does want a relationship.. go read her other thread.
She didn't mention anything about wanting a relationship in her last thread. She stated that she wanted to build a friendship before a FWB.
They had sex.
Flaked on him a few times. He forgave her. Then she gave in again.
This makes me more confused about the the subheading of this thread.
Why was this thread introduced as if the both of them didn't go all the way?
Am I missing something here?
Correction: She wanted to build a friendship rather than a FWB.
Not sure, to be honest I was confused with both of them. I did interrupted it similar to how Lily did. But alas only the OP knows what is happening or what her plans are. Wish her luck with whatever happens.
Fair enough ^^^^^^
To be honest, this was the funniest thread I read on the Virgo Board. At first, I was under the impression the OP was under-aged, and this was her first thread, and possibly first real sexual experience. I didn't know she had a previous thread stating that they were already FWB and had sex on several occasions.
I will have to agree with you, I'm still confused by both threads.
The OP never indicated to the Virgo that she was looking for a relationship. The FWB set-up just happened. She didn't state that she was vocal in attempting to solidify a relationship. More so, under the impression that he didn't, so she just resorted to turning the tables on him to get a reaction.
I could be wrong, both threads are a bit cloudy.
Only the OP knows. Wish her luck.
I've put my mouth on it even when I didnt want a relationship. occasionally. just to make sure I got her hooked.
Keep your legs closed and you'll be ok. You cant jump in the ocean then complain about the sharks. Sharks gonna shark.

Not derogatory. perfect analogy. men and sharks are predators. theres no difference. Sharks bloodlust over meat, men bloodlust over vagina.

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