Virgo & Sag

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by Saggtimistic on Saturday, November 21, 2009 and has 39 replies.
Are we compatible?
Long story short...
We were together...
We had a fallin out & He started seein an Aquarius... & decided that is not 4 Him!
Now he is tryin 2 come back!
I just need some insight B4 I let him back or if I do!!!
(all three of our charts are there...)
Please help me!!!!
HIM!
planet sign degree motion
Sun: Virgo 19??32'48 in house 1 direct
Moon: Aquarius 27??24'49 in house 6 direct
Mercury: Libra 13??33'47 in house 2 direct
Venus: Libra 29??22'26 in house 2 direct
Mars: Leo 6??31'45 in house 12 direct
Jupiter: Libra 13??58'19 in house 2 direct
Saturn: Libra 9??57'17 in house 2 direct
Uranus: Scorpio 26??41'54 in house 3 direct
Neptune: Sagittarius 22??06'31 in house 4 direct
Pluto: Libra 22??55'09 in house 2 direct
True Node: Leo 0??46'43 in house 11 retrograde
ME:
planet sign degree motion
Sun: Sagittarius 24??24'26 in house 1 direct
Moon: Virgo 3??00'23 in house 9 direct
Mercury: Sagittarius 27??40'10 in house 1 direct
Venus: Aquarius 4??36'24 in house 2 direct
Mars: Libra 0??12'39 in house 10 direct
Jupiter: Scorpio 3??35'31 in house 11 direct
Saturn: Libra 20??27'23 in house 10 direct
Uranus: Sagittarius 1??49'36 in house 12 direct
Neptune: Sagittarius 24??33'57 in house 1 direct
Pluto: Libra 26??21'43 in house 11 direct
True Node: Cancer 22??45'45 in house 8 direct
THE OTHER GIRL:
planet sign degree motion
Sun: Aquarius 1??19'51 in house 1 direct
Moon: Leo 15??22'12 in house 7 direct
Mercury: Aquarius 14??47'11 in house 1 direct
Venus Capricorn 12??43'52 in house 1 direct
Mars: Aquarius 16??57'16 end of house 1 direct
Jupiter: Libra 10??22'17 in house 9 stationary (R)
Saturn: Libra 9??46'38 in house 9 stationary (R)
Uranus: Scorpio 29??18'19 in house 11 direct
Neptune: Sagittarius 23??45'13 in house 12 direct
Pluto: Libra 24??20'17 in house 9 direct
True Node: Leo 10??51'27 in house 7 direct

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See Cajun for reference. Big Grin
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Cajun!? : )
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Posted by Saggtimistic
Cajun!? : )


His Chart looks great for you as a Sag.
Your chart... not so much for him as a Virgo.
Your Venus in Aquarius would hamper your ability to show him how you love really.
There would need to be lots of clear and direct explanation... which you Sags hate to do.
He is serious about you and will commit himself... but it will only work if you do the same and not allow yourself to feel "trapped".
Try and give him as much consistency as you can with lots of affection.
Are there any specific problems you two have?
I hate how my Sag loved tattoos, piercings and her smoking habits.
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He is a Tat artist!!!! Go figure!
The only thing is the other girl...
I dont want 2 b played 4 a fool!
R they compatible!?
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Posted by Saggtimistic

R they compatible!?



Not even remotely... all he could get out of it is sex.
Which you would be much better at, haha.
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He tells me that he uses her cause she doesnt 'back talk' & all this crap!
He was goin through some things & pretty much used her 2 get up 2 speed...
Now he wants 2 come back...
I'm confused!!!
If I'm not good 4 him...
Then I need 2 move on...
Cause I cant wait on 4 this Virgo 4ever!
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I LOVE how he doesnt keep secrets & he tells me everything!

I can read him so well...

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Posted by Saggtimistic

I'm confused!!!


You Saggies usually are, no offense.
Always coming up with answerless questions.
If I'm not good 4 him...
Then I need 2 move on...
Cause I cant wait on 4 this Virgo 4ever!

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I thought you said he wanted to come back now?
How are you waiting?
Here's some reading for you
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He does...
I get a feelin that he is sittin on the fence though...
The Aqua is at his every beg & call...
I'm not like that!
He is kinda immature also...
So I try & tell him right & he takes that as bein mean!!
But I'm not bein mean! I care enough 2 tell him the right things!
But..it feels as though soon as he is unsure about my feelins...
He goes & hides...
He said once that he doesnt feel 'secure' about how I feel...
Like I'm showin him! Trust me I'm tryin...
& he makes it very clear that he LOVES me...
& He made me cry 1 day & thats how he knew I LOVED him cause I cried...
& thats the only time he really knew how I felt was that moment!
I'm so confused I just wanna walk away! But my heart not lettin me...
What I feel is real & I hope what he is feelin is real & genuine also!
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Posted by Saggtimistic
He does...
I'm not like that!


Independent Woman
He is kinda immature also...


How?
So I try & tell him right & he takes that as bein mean!!
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He doesnt have his life together 100% ...
I do! I have a house a good carrer & am very established yet I crave for more...
& I'm in the process of startin my own venture...
& he wants 2 do the same but cant focus on it 100% cause he wants 2 party 24/7!
& He is a very talented artist...
Always complains that he wanna get his Tat business off the ground...
My stance is 'what r u waitin for'
Yet I tell him the rights things...do a little at a time & blah blah blah!
Then gets mad cause I'm bein 'bossy'!
He is impulsive & will go buy rims knowin that is his bill money...
Then cry Broke!
Somedays I dont feel like a Sag...
I'm so responsible! It is crazy!!!
He Loves that about me...
& yet I'm bein bossy!
I think he is the sag & im the virgo somedays!
*SMH*
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September 12th
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Your Moon in Virgo makes you responsible perhaps.
He definitely sounds like an early Virgo August 23rd through 28th
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September 12th aye?
Must be his Leo Ascendent then...
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I hope so...
I still have my guards up though...
Cant let them down just yet...

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I just wsh AQUA would move out of state...
LOL!
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Posted by Saggtimistic
I just wsh AQUA would move out of state...
LOL!


You Saggies have an odd way of dealing with girls you don't like.
Instead of demanding we stop talking to them, you would just complain without aggrivation... over and over. Expecting us guys to pick up on what you are hinting.
It's so much easier to just come out straight with it.
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Here is my first glance opinion.
what is good for you is:
his sun + your moon in Virgo
your venus/mars + his venus/mars all in air or fire sign (libra aqua leo)
your airy venus in Aqua (not possessive)
what is good for her is:
his moon and venus + her sun, merc and mars in Aqua
her jupiter and saturn + his jupiter and saturn in Libra around 10 degree
her capri venus
If he wants to enjoy a close and fixed relationship, he 'll be with her due to her Venus in Cap.
If he wants attraction and wants to have a good proportion of distance-closeness, so he'll choose you.
Does his AC/DC or yours have any aspect with his NN/SN, AC/DC, Sun or Jupiter?
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She is my friends cousin...
Who had her eyes set on him...

He told me all the things she would do...flirt & etc!
He does Tats...
Me & him never met under 'business' circumstances & he has never gave me a tat...

I dont like him cause he is the 'tat man' I love him 4 him!
My only motive was that I liked him!
Then soon as we had a fallin out she went in 4 the kill...
Scandlous girls...
& he knows how i feel bout that & acknowledges she was a easy catch!
She put her self out there!
I will never go after her man or what have u!
So...I had no problem w/ her until she was scandalous & Im mad at him also!
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Posted by DwellingOnMove
Here is my first glance opinion.
what is good for you is:
his sun + your moon in Virgo
your venus/mars + his venus/mars all in air or fire sign (libra aqua leo)
your airy venus in Aqua (not possessive)
what is good for her is:
his moon and venus + her sun, merc and mars in Aqua
her jupiter and saturn + his jupiter and saturn in Libra around 10 degree
her capri venus
If he wants to enjoy a close and fixed relationship, he 'll be with her due to her Venus in Cap.
If he wants attraction and wants to have a good proportion of distance-closeness, so he'll choose you.
Does his AC/DC or yours have any aspect with his NN/SN, AC/DC, Sun or Jupiter?



I guess I will let him be w/ her...
I have 2 move on...
I'm 2 old 4 games w/ men! & am not fightin to prove my love! This is not the movies!
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Cajun what do u think...
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Posted by Saggtimistic
Cajun what do u think...



If he is, in fact, expressing interest in you and you think he is on the fence... then tell him that.
I think this is your Virgo moon acting up again, you are cautious and don't want to invest in something that is unfruitful.
Tell him, how you feel and let him know that you will not be trifled with.
Let him know the other girl must be removed from the equation and he must be completely committed to you, in order for things to progress.
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If you would be so kind, perhaps you could read my topic and let me know your thoughts Saggtimistic.
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I'd take a virgo over a scorpio anyday. I dated one went pretty well, I was very attracted to him. Venus in aquarius is a rough placement I have it and I know many others that do and with having a sag sun makes it really hard for you to probably show you care about him, but best of luck!
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I'm not good with reading charts- but I will say this. Sags and Virgos can make excellent non-committal lovers, but I couldn't see myself being in a relationship with one. They have general incompetence with certain things that drives me bananas and I just can't hang with it on the long term.
Sags appreciate me because I can screw them and not give two figs about them the next time I see them, but they also don't like that if I do start to expect things of them, they are fairly high expectations. Great conversation is definitely something that tends to occur between Sags and I, but my Sag ascendant means I can kind of see things from their point of view. We have a similar recklessness, though mine is a bit more tempered.
Sags appreciate beauty and most Virgos tend to be naturally beautiful people...but it comes with a price a price most Sags are unwilling and unable to pay.
But who knows? Jay Z and Beyonce are a Sag/Vir couple and they appear to work out fine.
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I know Virgo and Sag are not the best match. and I would prefer Scorpio over Virgo any day (so far). but here just a small pieace of info:
Famous Couples:
Sophia Loren (Virgo) and Carlo Ponti (Sagittarius) : successful marriage
Aristotle Onassis (Virgo) and Maria Callas (Sagittarius) : love affair or love of life affair
Annie Lennox (Sagittarius) and Dave Stewart (Virgo); Marriage and divorce after 24 years
Beyonce (Virgo) and Jay Z (Sagittarius)
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For what it's worth... my BFF is a Sag.
She's my best riding buddy and we get along pretty damn well.
What drives me crazy about her... she can't keep her mouth shut, LOL. Often just blurts out whatever is on her mind even if it's the worst thing to say at the time. She drives her husband, my friend also, nuts sometimes with the way she criticizes just about every little thing he does. He deserves it sometimes because usually acts before he thinks it all out, and does dumb stuff in the process. I keep telling her to go easy on him or she's going to wind up in divorce court, sigh.
The way she is with her horses... I find very odd. She's good with them in the pasture, tho doesn't much enjoy affection from them. I've had to slowly bring her around to understand that some horses are like dogs... they like to be touched and loved up and talked to. She is coming around slowly but surely. But when she rides, every time her horse does the littlest thing wrong... she swears like a sailor. Doesn't matter which horse. When I ride the same horses, I never swear at them, I think they are great. -boggle-
We are great friends, but I wouldn't want to be her mate, for fear she'd end up treating me just like she treats her husband. I think she pulls her punches with me a little, because we are just friends, but I think it'd be different if we were in a relationship.
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Posted by Ferghus Clydelover

She is coming around slowly but surely. But when she rides, every time her horse does the littlest thing wrong... she swears like a sailor. Doesn't matter which horse. When I ride the same horses, I never swear at them, I think they are great. -boggle-
We are great friends, but I wouldn't want to be her mate, for fear she'd end up treating me just like she treats her husband. I think she pulls her punches with me a little, because we are just friends, but I think it'd be different if we were in a relationship.


Hahaha, you're intuition is right on target.
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nothing tops aqua rising style tho owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww lmfao
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Posted by virg_goki

I FEEL SO STUPID!! I found out theres a sag gal after me for several months. i found out about it just 2 months ago and i'm still stuck trying to make a decision whether i should chase her. I mean, yeah, shes got a wide group of friends but i'm a virgo who is looking for someone whos not too clingy as well (i think). She's been patient and its the first time I've had someone chase me that hard. and the closest person i am with in my family is a sag! IS THIS EVEN LEGAL!!??? the rest are all earth signs and oh I SO CAN'T STAND THEM (taurus & cap); pfftt and i'm a virgo..~
WHY AM I SO CONFUSING TO MYSELF!!! *goes away to angst on his libra ascendant*


Go for it man, if you can handle not becoming possessive and jealous and letting her do what she wants, you're in for the ride of your life. Your Aquarian ascendant definitely is a plus.
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My bad, Libra ascendant... that will mess with yous... bad
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Posted by virg_goki

Cajun how'd u start off with ur sag?


We have this naturally powerful magnetism and being a Sag she thought I was fun and cool enough to give her number to.
She told me she wanted to go to church, and I'm a church boy so I took her.
We ended up hanging out for 3 weeks and I could see she was developing feelings for me. This was during my final year dissertation and exams, I ended up over by her, talking to her in her porch 3-5 times a week.
We got to learn about each other and everything was "I do this" , "Me too!".
So we had lots of similarities, a powerful magnetism and an interest in each other.
I basically wore down her defenses, as I was confident she was interested in me.
I bought her a ring and pretended I wanted to get married to her, put the ring on.
Sealed the deal within a month basically. I had to act fast, and be aggressive... which is so unnatural for me.
I also heard all my Sag female friends tell me, "keep her on her toes".
So I was random and more outgoing in the first few months.
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Posted by virg_goki

OMG!!! its exactly the same story as me!!! both of us are church goers. both of u got close due to a church retreat. only that we didn't hang out =/ i only got to her close enough since i was mentoring some kids and being chummy with them. relly have to bless those kids for their impish nature! but.. crap i got freaked out when she started baring her heart... i didn't realize i had that kind of pull over any girl, not to mention a girl as outgoing as her. we only got closer with random poems i started spewing online... talk about insane and random...

show me the way, great one. LOL


As "carefree" and "non serious" as Sags may appear, they are great philosophers. The older they get, the more they appreciate intellectual conversation.
All the Virgo men who dated them, on this board, including myself. Swore, they would get bored of us, but they never do. So cull that thought immediately.
She appreciates honesty and upfrontness, so do not hesitate to show your emotions and express them to her. The problem lies in the fact, that we never see eye to eye about "Love".
Sags don't think it can be explained or learned, that it can only be felt.
Virgos believe everything should be explained and through learning and understanding, can it be fully understood and felt.
My Sag accused me of "not knowing what love really is" just because her viewpoint is so different from mine. So be forewarned, do not try to understand her viewpoint on love. The more questions you ask a Sag, the more you push them away.
My need to understand and my Sags lacking ability to explain herself, often frustrated her in our conversation.
They don't like "planned" events. So if she calls you up and wants to go out, drop what you are doing and be happy to go out with her. Whenever you show up, "never be moody or possessive", that pisses them off and drives them away.
Dating a Sag woman calls for detachedness... it is so odd. They like to openly flirt and you must not be bothered by it. All their affections come out when the two of you are in private, as a Virgo... I would prefer to have lots more in public but that will not always be the case.
This isn't your traditional relationship, this is not your idea of how a woman should be while you were growing up, she loves independence and will give her heart to the man that respects that and let's her frolic freely.
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Posted by Layna

Sags do in a way know how to treat you like the most important person, too. Girls my age would normally get very frustrated when their guy asks to leave for awhile to play a round in a certain game, but I always didn't mind and in fact encouraged him many times to socialize with his friends instead of spending all his time with me. Since I treated him nicely and never really nagged at him for anything, he also knew to not play too much and would stop playing after a round or two before he comes back to chat with me for the rest of the time.


Hahaha, I am the opposite.
I wanted to spend all my time with my Saggie and spoil her! Tongue
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Posted by DyTryin

I love to party with SAGs, but marry one? No way!
All that yakkin' would get real old, real fast...


I don't mind the yakkin... enjoy it actually, especially while riding. What's funny is, she hates writing emails. If she includes a single small sentence consider yourself lucky.. but in PERSON? She can talk your head off, LOL. Her husband is even worse, heh. I think he just likes to hear his own voice or something. He can't stop even when he's sleeping according to Sal... she says he carries on and on while sound asleep... but she can never make out what he's saying, heh.
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Posted by Layna

The thing is, I would have wanted to spend all my time with him and whatnot if I did not have a few years of experience in playing the 'hearing ear' for boys and girls alike in relationships. One too many guys told me of how they don't like how demanding, possessive, over-bearing, or clingy their girlfriends are so I kind of... got 'tuned'?


Oooo... you are one of those too...
I spent the majority of my teenage years being the "ear and shoulder" for so many girls who put me in the friend zone and refused to see me as the ideal guy for them, based on their complaints of course.
I would imagine you probably went through something similar.
Or maybe it's just because I'm treating him like how I want to be treated: to be given a lot of freedom, have 100% placed on, etc. smile


How enthralling, I think we ought to do a thread on your Natal chart, should be interesting.
Or maybe I unconsciously used reverse psychology on him. -grins-
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... Manipulation?!
From innocent little VIRGO you?
Never!!!
LOL
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Posted by Layna
CajunMy Sag ex, I would say, is someone any girl would want as a boyfriend (kind, funny, open, popular, etc.)... I did not want to end the relationship with him because such a good guy is hard to find, but I still ended it, anyway.


If you did not want to, then why did you?
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Posted by Layna

These are the main reasons (that I can think of) for now... I'm sure they do not convey accurately what I felt at the time... but I tried my best to explain. smile


That you did!
There are fundamental differences with Virgos and Sagittarians, but it can work, shockingly.
Long distance relationships make no sense Tongue
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