Virgo/Scorpio What Should I do?

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by spil on Thursday, May 16, 2002 and has 51 replies.
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I am a Virgo woman enthralled with a Scorpio man. We are the same age, and have known each other for 7 years as friends. We were in the same "friends group" He was married at the time. I never thought I would be interested in him other than an acquaintance/friend. After his divorce our paths kept crossing and we ended up together one night with a group and.... he said "let's go listen to music" we went somewhere else.... and that was one year ago. We have a wonderful time together, and I can tell he enjoys me. We don't share our deep feelings, and he has never called me. We always "just run into each other" (at the same places) He did take me to a play at the school where he teaches. Says things like"if I had the amount of money equal to the joy you've given me...." So, do I just keep running into him, should I tell him that I reallllly like him, does he like me if he never calls but says he likes me a lot.... help!
Call him it is that simple. Break the ice. Disrupt your current routine.
If you keep running into him then it must be fate. It means you are circulating around the same vibe. Take it from me, love is hard to find so when you find someone special, GO FOR IT. Dont hold back, you will be kicking yourself if you do.
I want you to post us back and tell us how it went.
It sounds like that very rare sort of true love. Its so beautiful!
Hello, G-virgo here.Let me tell you from a sensitive heart to another.It's all or nothing.So go outhere and tell him how you feel.Otherwise, you'll be stuck with a lot of butterflies in your stomach if u don't !! Besides this topic, i took a look of your profile and you're born the same year as my dad !! My father is an aries though.Just in case if ya wanna know , i have a profile too except i forgot to log in this time.Let me know if ya come out with the man you're totally in love with !!
Well dear, in this day and age, women are stronger, more powerful, more daring, and definetely more aggressive. Follow your heart. If it tells you that you want him, then by all means, go after him. Initiate something deeper by telling him exactly how you feel and whatever happens happens. At least you won't regret never trying. Maybe there is a reason why he is being shallow and at least you'll find out how he feels too.
Well, here I am, back again. Thanks so much for your helpful responses. I did what you said, and it WORKED!!! We've had a couple great talks which makes me know that he does care for me. Things just take time..... My heart is happy and I have butterflys in my tummy! Thanks again, because at least I let him know how I feel and he didn't run away.... We'll have to see where it all goes. But now I'm ready for whatever happens......
Well, good for you. I love hearing a happy ending!!! You've done it now, broken the ice, it must be a nice feeling. If its this good now can you imagine how good a relationship will be?
Best of luck smile
It's a nice feeling for a Virgo to be close with Scorpio. I think it's best for you to tell him that you likes him and see how he react. But be prepare that you may not get the answer that you want to hear as he never call or say that he likes you. Usually Scorpio will go all the way out when they really likes someone.
Well, I'm back again. We had a wonderful Memorial weekend together. But, I think he thinks of me as a buddy. We play cd's in his car and sing real loud together. And he has a song that he says "is us". But.... he is dating a lady he met on the internet. Has had 7 dates with her. He says shes's nice, but that it would never work. I know he enjoys her company. He did call me! But, I'm really not sure where he is coming from. I don't think I should say anything, just stay away. But, I'm sad. He's so cute and smart. I'm just going to go out with others and not let life pass me by. Is that ok? Should I forget about my Scorpio guy? Thanks for all your opinions.
Internet dating is "dangerous"!
Yep, i think you should go out with others and 'not let life pass you by'. That was good advice you gave yourself.
It sounds strange though seeing as though he is dating someone else and he spends quality time with you. I think internet dating sucks, i dont see how you can get to know someone across a computer screen.
It seems really strange how he listens to CD's in his car with YOU and not the other girl. Dont give up but start seeing other guys, you do have to get on with your life a little.
Good luck and i do hope this one works out because i know what its like to have unrequitted love smile
210.5
Well, here it is August..... I'm still trying to get my Scorpio man!!! He has come around somewhat, and we've spent 8 days together out of 10. It's so easy being with him. Now, here is the question for male Scorpios... One time he said, "You know I love you" and I said, "What?" Because I thought that's what he said. Well, he said "nothing". Then another time, we were hugging and he said "I love you, I do love you" What's up with that? Do Scorps just say those things? He still never calls me. Should I forget about this guy?
Can anyone answer 4.33.34.195's question? I am eager to know the answer as well.
All the best. Scorpios are charming.
No, scorps don't just say those things. Not the highly evolved ones, at least.
(from astrology-horoscopes.com)
Virgo with Scorpio
SCORPIO: Water ? Fixed ? Negative
Ruled by Pluto
Symbol: Scorpion & Eagle
Night Forces ? Feminine
VIRGO: Earth ? Mutable ? Negative
Ruled by by Mercury (also by the Planet Vulcan)
Symbol: The Virgin
Night Forces ? Feminine
Scorpios elude any sort of analysis. They do not like being nit-picked, nagged, or scolded and criticized. If Virgo will go easy on outright criticism, nagging, scolding, and hair-splitting, the two of them will get along famously and become unexpectedly close. Others may fear to plumb and probe Scorpio's secret nature and mantle of mystery, but Virgo has a curious, exploring mind, and although he or she won't reach up and rudely pull off Scorpio's mask, a gentle attempt will be made to uncover what is hidden from view. Virgos are somehow not as frightened or in awe of Scorpio as other Sun Signs often are, since Virgo frankly respects Scorpio's own critical and analytical abilities. The Virgin will frequently make a conscious effort, with an Eagle, to avoid controversial matters before they become actual disagreements, for a couple of reasons. First, Virgo trusts Scorpio to be as careful and cautious as he (or she) might be ? also wiser, more sensitive ? and so the Virgins believe that there's every possibility Scorpio's views may be the correct ones. Second, Virgo has already calculated the percentage possibility of winning a battle of wits with the Eagle and has decided there's not much of a chance, at best. Further, the Virgo man or woman is acutely aware of the almost certain unpleasant results if Scorpio is goaded too far or unnecessarily challenged ? and unpleasant confrontations are counterproductive to their common goals. Virgos are enormously practical about such things. It's this level-headed quality which makes Scorpio smile on the Virgins. They are nice, sensible sorts?smiling, bright-eyed, and polite creatures to have around, in no way a threat.
In some indefinable manner, Virgos seem to calm the Pluto spirit ? and where Virgos may cause others to be jumpy, or to feel slightly guilty for not being perfect around them, they have the opposite effect on Scorpio. In truth, Scorpios often feel strangely loose and relaxed in the presence of Virgo. It is no small feat to make a Scorpio feel "loose." This is a 3-11 Sun Sign Pattern, blending the Earth and Water elements. This means Scorpio will somehow feel that he or she has "found roots" in an association with Virgo ? and the latter will have a strong sense of being enriched in many ways from the Pluto contact. In some unexpected and unconventional way, Virgo will quietly and unobtrusively help to bring about Scorpio's hopes, wishes, and dreams ? also social success, prestige, and standing in the career or community. Scorpio will open Virgo's mind to many new vistas of thought and progressive theories, bringing to the Virgin an easy communication of ideas. More than any other person (except perhaps Taurus, Cancer, and Capricorn), Scorpio can check Virgo's tendency to worry and sulk, with the result that Virgos seem calmer, more tranquil, less restless and jittery around Scorpio. Virgo will never agree with another Sun Sign's description of the Scorpio as ruthless, cold, and dangerous. This is not the way Virgo sees the Eagle at all. In Virgo's eyes, the Pluto person is warm, generous, and protective ? as well as sympathetic and compassionate. Nor will Scorpio normally allow anyone to put down Virgo by calling the Virgins picky, fussy, and nervous. How can this be, when Scorpio is always cooler than usual, plus more peaceful, when a Virgo friend, relative, or mate is near? Once a tie between these two has been established, the Virgin will usually receive the full force of Pluto's protective powers, and will enjoy as well Scorpio's fierce loyalty, given to those who have earned it. If anyone tries to harm a Virgo who's already won th
Hi 68.116.66.147.... I like your answer, however, does that mean no, Scorps don't say those things, or, that they don't say them unless they mean them? Thanks for your response
Thak you 210.5. I appreciate your response and believe me, every response helps because coming from you guys its honest and sincere. Thanks again.
I don't understand what the problem is. Virgo: this scorp likes you.. point blank!!! Right now you are being to analytical so stop it and enjoy your man! Everyone is trying to read more into it but it is so obvious. Go with the flow and relax!!!
p.s. don't let the lady that he dates affect the way the he feels about you. You two have seven years together and she is just someone he met on the internet. Probably out of loneliness
Lady-Virgo..Thanks so much. There is too much of a soul connection between he and I for me to just let go..... You are right, I'm too analytical. I'm going to go with the flow and enjoy my man... if anything moves ahead I'll be the lucky one. If not, then I've had a marvelous time. Thanks again you're a sweetie.
4.33,
You're welcome for the response. Now, what I was trying to say is that Scorpios rarely will say the words "I love you" and not mean it to the core of their soul. We find it so difficult to express our emotions with words to begin with, that if we actually SAY IT, nine times out of ten you can be assured it's set in stone with that scorp that they do really love you. The only time I would be wary of the sincerity is if you're dealing with an unevolved, "shady" scorp. In that case he may be saying it because of his own ulterior motives (usually either sex or control). But my feeling is that he's being genuine. Especially if he looks you directly in the eyes when he says it.
Good luck my Virgo friend!
phoenix_rising
The next time you see this man, ask him what the deal is? Ask him where this relationship is going (if there is one aside from you just running into each other) and where you stand? Ask him why if you bring him so much joy, he hasn't claimed you yet!
I'm sorry, but if a man gives me signals that he's interested then I don't expect to be led around by the horns (coming from an Aries woman) It just isn't my style . I throw down the gauntlet and if he doesn't pick it up, well it's his loss.
Phoenix_rising,
I read the Virgo/Scorpio article posted in the previous page. This decribes exactly what happened between myself and my Scorpio friend.
One thing I don't get is "In some unexpected and unconventional way, Virgo will quietly and unobtrusively help to bring about Scorpio's hopes, wishes, and dreams." I didn't know I had such an influence on my friend. Do you feel the same when being with your Virgo friend(s)?
Esther
whats this talk of 'unevolved scorpios'? what does that mean, and how can i pick them?
k.
Its me again..... I'm still trying to get my Scorp! I have been with him for the past several weekends, day and night. We have soo much fun together. However, the past couple weekends I feel something different. Like maybe he's pulling away, but then not the whole time I'm with him. Last time he said, "I might go on a date" I said, " you can date whenever you want..." He said well, I'm not looking.. How could I find someone who likes me like you do. I'm confused, but still have not told him how I feel. He does know that I care very much. I don't think he feels the same way. He still has never called me, however, we're always at the same places on Friday, so he doesn't have to.. But I want him. HELP!
Virgo,
It has been 5 months. You need to know where you stand...ask him! He is sending you mixed messages and that isn't fair to you. You are a sweetheart, and I wish you happiness.
scorps like to play mind games....it keeps them interested.
Virgos hide their feelings so maybe he really doesn't know how you feel..just tell him but be careful not to tell him to much....he may use it against you. Virgos are so reserved and cautious when it comes to their emotions and you may appear a little cold emotionally towards him. My grandmother always say let the man tell you how he feels first....I disagree if you like him...tell him
Well, I've decided that this relationship is not good. Rather than think positive and work at tryting to get him to want me..... I looked at the other side and said that if he really did want me he would call me which he has never done. Of course he doesn't have to because I am always at the same places he is on the weekend. I have probably shown hime I have no self respect to keep showing up where he is... we do spend the whole weekend together and its great.... Scorpios don't like "dormats" and I think he might think I am one. If a man wants you they call you, right? Should I move on? Will the pain go away soon?
Are you in deep and how deep? What I mean is, is it more than just a friendship, have you been intimate with him?? I assume that by being with him ALL weekend entails you having sex with him?
I don't know what to tell you. Kind of need more about the relationship aspects. for instance, how long together etc...
Have you ever told him how you feel about him not calling you? Maybe next time you see him you can ask him.
Oh yeah, and how tall are you? Size has alot to do with it, when it comes to Scorpios!
4.33,
I would say that it's been too long for you to continue "wishing/and hoping/and dreaming/and praying"...you know what I mean? I can explain most scorp behavior, but one thing I can't explain is rude behavior...and I'm not one for playing the distance game (trying to figure out why he still hasn't called you etc.). I think that you should show him that you are strong and very capapable of having fun with or without him, and not to be blunt, but why would he buy the cow if he's getting the milk for free? Men can be jerks, and especially scorpio men because the sign is highly sexual--those two factors combined make for a dangerous combo for you when you don't even know where you stand emotionally with him. Do not let this guy control you in the way he is...I know you don't think you're being controlled but unfortunately a feature of my sign is that those of us who are unevolved can and do use sex to get a feeling of power and control. You have to show him that you aren't a doormat. I'm not saying that's what you are, but if he sees that you will allow him to be intimate with you without him having to give anything emotionally, he will exploit that. Good luck to you my dear.
Wow, spil, i cant believe this is STILL going on, there are plenty more fish in the sea. Its a treetrunking nuisance at the end of the day (i just had to get that in!!!).
Ok, Ill be sensible now. Seriously, you have two options.
First of all, you can tell him how you feel. State it, dont get emotional. Your next move will depend on his response. If he says yes, you can take it from there. I dont believe you are ever home and hosed in a relationship but its a start.
If he refuses you I would move on, cut ties with him. I am a firm believer in cutting ties to heal emotional wounds. If you want to be friends, you can do that later when you feel stronger.
The second option is to withdraw the hopes you have, resolve it within yourself and cut ties. He may never know how you feel though.
I personally would let him know. If you dont try you will never know. You have nothing to lose except your pride and that will heal in due time.
Anyway, let us know how you get on.
Good luck,
Libragirl.
Very good advice Libragirl--delivered in a nonsense, virgo-like manner but with Libra's balanced outlook : )
I'm curious...REALLY curious about our Virgo friend...come back my dear and update us!
oopsie!! That should say NO-nonsense...not "nonsense"...wow, sorry about that : )
I know, this is one i have been following. Its like Days of our lives smile
Thanks Phoenix for the compliment smile Yes, that virgo planet or two does come in and save me at times, hehe.
Oops, sorry Spil, i didnt mean to degrade your experience to the likes of 'Days of our lives', was just making a joke about how i have become engrossed in your story...smile
Let me tell the whole story
Well, its me. I can't believe you all are so nice to respond..... I will not give up on this guy because I know there is something between us..... The past two weekends have been quite lovely. And, you are right, why should he buy the cow etc.... But I also think he wouldn't spend time with me if he didn't have some feelings, he even said "I love you" this past weekend. My problem is I have trouble believing that. Here is the thing, this guy is impotent...... and to answer the question regarding intimacy, yes,,,,,,, there is amazing intimacy. There are many ways to please each other. We laugh, sing together, have the most "fun" ever. I just don't know what to think of the situation.. I shouldn't keep going on but if there is one little tiny chance that we can understand each other emotionally, I'll keep trying. I don't want marriage, or even total commitment, just commitment that he wants and cares for me enough to let me into his life "just a little". When my husband passed away almost 8 years ago, I decided after 9 months not to let life pass me by. Not to be negative, and to enjoy myself and other people. So, one day I went into this restaurant/bar, (very nice) and had a glass of wine. Never been there before. Who sits next to me? Yes, this guy. We exchanged a few words, he gave me his business card and that was that. I did not have any particular feelings, in fact didn't even know what I felt about anything at that time. Well, for the next few years, our paths crossed many times, he was married and my girlfriend and I became friends with her. We went to parties and other places where all of us were. I said to them, "you have the most wonderful relationship"..... Then, he was divorced. We still kept running into each other. Would exchange conversation and laughter. One time a group of us were going to another place from where we were, and he said you can ride with me. He had opera music on, soda crackers in the back, and I sang loud opera and ate crackers. Didn't see him for quite some time until one night I was with my girlfriend and he was there and said," Would you like to do some things together? Just go places it would'nt be "a thing". He asked for my email, and I did not hear from him nor did I even think about it. It never occurred to me that we'd ever be anything.... last July I got an email saying, "Who are you? I found this paper with this email and I had written "Important" on it. I answered, and still did not get a reply and still did not think anything of it. A couple weeks later my girlfriend and I ran into him, we talked, and he said lets you and I go to a place I know to hear music... we did and have been doing this since. (1 year) I really don't want to give up, but I don't want to disrespect myself. I'm really not that type, just a woman almost in love and wants someone to love me back. Does stupid strike again?
Right, so you have been intimate? Well then at least that part of the ice has been broken. I wasnt sure how far your relationship had progressed. Now i guess you want to be more than just a physical outlet. I dont blame you, there's no way a person should be used but as you say, he is spending time with you so he must like you alot.
As for the impotence, who cares really. If you like someone, all those things dont matter. Somehow love prevails and fulfils you.
It sounds to me like the relationship is progressing nicely. Why do i get the feeling this one could end up in wedding bells?!
Thanks for filling us in spil. Btw, i know this is a personal question but it says on your profile you were born in 1939, is this true? The reason i ask is because i believe as you get older (and we all are getting older) your needs in a relationship change. I think as i get older i will be looking for companionship more than sexual attraction. I heard somewhere someone say, 'always settle/marry someone you can talk to, that way you can look over your lives together', or something to that effect. Its a nice saying anyway.
Well, good luck my dear, you are quite a dark horse arent you smile
God what a nice story. I have nothing to say but - Good Luck I hope you find the happiness you wish and desire but more to the point - deserve.
I know, its like one of those 19th century english romances, Im right into those. It seems a bit Tess of the D'Urbavilles or Wuthering heights... I like long drawn out old fashion romance. Does this make me a dag? If so, im happy being it.
Also, spil, sorry about the age thing, i hope you dont think me rude for asking, i was just trying to shed light on your situation for myself a little more.
Libragirl... you're an angel! I like your honest responses to my "situation". I do not mind a bit regarding my age. To me, age is a number; the heart, mind and soul is where its at! I'm 63, but look younger and definitely act younger! You, and the others have definitely helped me in my decision to keep going. After all, nothing comes easy, and, if he didn't like me somewhat he wouldn't spend as much time with me as he does. At least that's what I'm basing my "going forward" on. If there was nothing there I wouldn't bother. You can't make someone like you. But if there is an eensy weensy bit of chemistry and that loving look in his eye, I will bee discreetly by his side until I grow on him or it fizzles out. As I said earlier, does stupid strike again? or... should I keep a good attitude and keep on truckin... thanks again, your a sweetie.
Oh wow, spil, your post warmed my heart. I dont think about age either, i guess im just going through a stage where im thinking, maybe i should hurry up and meet someone but anyway...
Your story is so nice. I guess i wanted to know about the age thing so i could put things into perspective, the comments about listening to music etc... I wasnt sure if that meant you would hang out in a car with a whole lot of rastabouts listening to loud blaring hip hop or what! I know i am setting up stereotypes here but its hard to imagine when you cant see people in the flesh. I think another reason i wanted to know is that the older or more mature scorpio man may not be as devilish as some of the younger ones can be smile
Well, it all seems to be going quite well and its such a nice story; there should be more like it. What ever happend to falling in love and good old fashioned romance? It seems relationships and sex are all too easy these days...
I think your idea about hanging out with him 'unitl he grows on you', is such a good idea. I am a great believer in cliches and i belive 'Rome wasn't built in a day'. It sounds to me like you are building a 'true' relationship and not just a fling. Dont you think this is so much better? No need to answer that, it is.
Anyway, stop wasting your time on the internet and go and spend some time thinking about or seeing the guy you really like.
Cheers my dear,
libragirl.
Hello everyone! It is now 2004, and, I'm still "friends" with my Scorpio man.... I've backed off somewhat, and I've decided, "no more intimacy". (There hasn't been for a while.) Due to an unfortunate incident, I will be housebound (for the most part) until Sept 27, from Jun 12. He has dropped by to see me a few times, even brought me some paperback books to read. Last Sat he called me three times!!! I was working a storage unit sale for a friend of mine who moved to Florida, and he drove me there, asked if he could help,(I didn't need it), called afterward to see how it went; actually, just being a good friend! Here's the killer..... He told me he saw a woman in one of his hangouts, and she was foxy. A male friend of his came in and knew her and introduced them. The next week she found his number from someone and called him. They met and spent a few hours together. I asked him how it went. He said not good. She looked older, and was heavier than he thought, and it just wouldn't work out. Then...... yesterday (Sun) he called to see how I was, and said, " An unusual thing happened" I got a call on my answer machine from a woman that said she was tall, (he's tall and likes tall women) blond, and that she was a friend of this "other woman" he had gone out with and since he didn't seem interested in her, maybe he would like "her" instead. So, being a little hurt inside (even tho I shouldn't as we are "just friends') I said, "Well, call her today, and see if she will meet you at the beach" He said, "Maybe, if I do I'll tell you how it goes." Oh, when he dropped me off at the storage place on Fri, I looked him in the eyes and said, "I have something to tell you, (which I've said sort of, before) I put my finger on his lips and said, "don't say a word, I'm in love with you.... He chuckled, (I had said it real sweet) I continued, "If you don't find your lady, [now, a little side story: we've always had this thing where he says " I want a tall, younger woman... and I joke back, standing on a rung of a chair, look, I'm tall and soon will be younger. ha ha] call me, and I know a shorter, not younger lady and I'll tell her to call you!!!!! Well, we both laughed and that was it. By the way, we are both the same age, 64!. Whew! I've gone on and on here, my last question to myself should be WHAT PART OF I'M NOT IN LOVE WITH YOU DO I NOT UNDERSTAND!. Help me. I know you won't probably read all of the above, but I had such nice people respond to me a couple of years ago, that I thought I'd try again. You're thinking..... is she stupid or what! I just adore him........
Wows....!!
This is what I call exactly the TRUE game of love for the LOVE WARRIORS....!!After so many years of experiences in the field of love games, you still feel crippled by the feeling of it ??. like every one of us?this is so exciting?.!!
You know? what you feel is RIGHT?but, what you EXPECTING IN RETURN are under the question, that's why it is so exciting?
EXPECTATIONS is some thing that is very personal and very private (this is the area that we always build a wall around it to keep our ego ?what ever it might be? safe form possible harms) you are 64?? So what??? ?you could be 14 or 600,000 years old... does not matter?the issue here is your feeling about the subject (love and romance) and you are in right spot lady?go on with your gut's feeling and accept that you are in love with that person, no matter what the consequences.
This is what I call TRUE LOVE?LOVE without expectations is only an adventure, TRUE love is something that you feel it right now?..ACCEPT it and be reasonable with it.
smile
Obone, thanks for your lovely response. I'm a really smart person, can't understand why I'm not that smart in "love". I believe I will remain good friends with him, keeping my love tucked away in a spot in my heart, and maybe he'll feel that flame one day. Thanks again for responding to me.
Anytime lady............................anytime...
Considering that you are a Virgo...I am sure that you know already to what to do.. !! The choice is yours..
Good luck with it
smile
Are come on down to hell with the real lovers us capricorns, I do think we were the oringeal pans.
As for age I find older people a lot easer to get along with than younger people. If age makes no differance, which it souldent why are the older less judemental than the younger ones?
i think as we get older, we are more accepting of things, because we realize there are alot of things out of our control. we realize that we can't control other people either. nature will take it's course, and we must just go with the flow. it's a very freeing thing, mentally and emotionally. i wouldn't want to be any younger then i am right now. life is a wonderous journey. i look forward to each day.
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