Virgos and Romance

OK so you probably all know my story, as brief as it has been on the Virgo board but just quickly, after a slow start to a "r/ship" Ive suddenly found myself in a world Ive never been:....being wined and dined, chauffeured around, spoilt rotten basically (not materialistically but just the way he treats me).

Next week he's taking me for a ride on his bike and mentioned a bottle of wine, picnic food, a blanket and a nice quiet spot in the country where we could just relax, indulge in some nice food and talk about stuff and take in the scenery.

I guess I want to know how romantic are Virgos normally? this guy is slowly but surely being the most romantic Ive ever dated....is that the norm when a Virgo is into you? or am I just lucky after a bad run over the past few years?

thank you.....wow, obviously its something Virgos also enjoy being for their partner....as I said before, Ive never had this amount of romance but I could get used to it hehehehe. Im assuming Virgos also like to be treated to romance by their partner...well I hope so coz Im a Leo and I can certainly bring it on now that I know he's into that

LOL Evan, nice combo with Libra and Leo in your chart 🙂

S-I-L: And the more he gets to know me to more romantic he becomes.

We try to pick up on what our woman wants & needs. We're not the most spontaneous guys, but we can plan some very romantic moments - our attention to detail pays big dividends!

Yeah, Shaka, I don't know where the stereotype comes from. Virgos tend to read and absorb a lot, and we know a lot about classic, old- style , romantic love. I guess it's because we're not as obvious & demonstrative as other guys, and that makes us appear less romantic...

So... you have Venus in Leo? Same here. Maybe that's why we roar more than the typical VirGuy??

Chatz, when it came to my Leo Mom, my Virgo Dad was very romantic - lots of Just Us time, and many little weekend getaways for Just Two. Considering they had 5 children, it was quite a feat for them to keep the flame alive!

I guess you Leos put fuel on the fire in a VirGuy's heart...

Yea quite honestly, the stereotype is bullshit. Not to get overly cocky but I'm probably the most romantic when I compare myself to my circle of friends. I can say every women I've been involved with (in my adult years lol) has at least one fond memory of romance from me. Perhaps its just one of the perks of us being so overly picky about who we share time with. Its like Dy said...

We try to pick up on what our woman wants & needs. We're not the most spontaneous guys, but we can plan some very romantic moments

^^Quoted for truth.

...my ex told me that he kept my picture in his tool box at work...

He's being practically romantic - typical VirGuy!

lol Yes I gathered that too but its better than a guy saying lets go to McDonalds, grab a burger and fries then have car sex in a carpark somewhere 😛

I consider myself to be the ultimate romantic ... not much about the fluffy stuff like chocolate and flowers but usually my attention to details means I know tiny things about people and when I do something related to that they are really surprised

i seem to be more about what things symbolise .. for me the most romantic meal is bran flakes with dried papaya/pineapple and skimmed milk, eaten in bed from the same bowl, with me using a soup spoon

the virgo sense of romance is very subtle and most people will fail to see the point, this is why we usually give the vibe that we are unromantic

bran is very healthy Shaks ... it might be hard for some but I completely prefer if to corn

lol! Not Branh.



I guess no more libras for Chatz.

damn you Shaks and your irony! I only got this the second time lol ... I have to confess I am in a serious mood today hehehe

breakfast is important that's why you need to have quality food in the form of bran

OMG no way, no more LIbras...you live and learn and it took me a year. My Virgo has been wonderful and its all so easy unlike the hardship Libra brought into my life....as I said, you live and learn 🙂

sounds perfect to me hehehe...Ive had enough drama to last a lifetime so that'd be awesome.

The guy lost his wife a few years back due to some illness she contracted when working in a lab (it really is a very sad story) and throughout it all he has maintained a happy face and Ive never seen him turn or even get angry at anybody...sure he gets irritated and sure he gets annoyed, etc but he'd rather walk away and calm down than to lash out. Ive known him long enough to know he's a gentle giant with a big heart. He talks of her a lot and Im ok with that - its not like Im competing with an ex that betrayed him or anything. Its Xmas Day here in Oz and he said that his wife's family wanted to see him tonight for dinner and drinks but he feels they'll just set him backwards 2-3 years as they get emotional. I offered to spend Xmas night with him if it got too hard and he jumped at the chance. Im sure he'll get a little upset but Im kind of honoured that he wants me to be there with him.

His less-positive traits surfacing? is that the neat freak tendancies he has?? LOL....and the "standards" he has in food and wine?? Im yet to learn a lot more about him as just because Ive known him for 5 years as a colleague in a different department, I have so much to find out yet but for the past few months? he's been nothing but a gentleman and a great friend.....Im sure there are things about him that I wont particularly like but til now he doesnt pick his nose, nor scratch his bits in front of me LOL.....

"Im sure there are things about him that I wont particularly like but til now he doesnt pick his nose, nor scratch his bits in front of me LOL"

you haven't known him yet, you're fascinated by the fa?ade, you like his lavish life and the way he treats you for now

i'm not saying this is a bad thing at the start but I advice you to dig deeper into him, at your/his pace of course but always keep this in the back of your mind because after a while he will start doubting your intentions, are you with him because of all the nice things he does for you or do you really care.

reason I tell you this especially is because you are a leo and my experience with them is that they are more about themselves and this can lead to them taking and taking which to the virgo equals selfish

but what you can give him is a drive, another boost with your big thinking and sheer optimism, he will love that about you so I suggest you be yourself for now but keep this little thing in mind, it might be the leash that keeps him coming back for more

good luck and please apologise to the poor guy for me ...

thanks for that but yeah I agree with leokitten....we give a hell of a lot, especially to those we love and yes sometimes too much...He's going away for a week so this will test us out....I miss him already and i only left his place 1/2 hour ago.

AS far as taking advantage? I own my own house outright, have a great job, own my car, can buy myself pretty things so that kinda makes me pretty independent. I dont value money or things as much as many other leos because Ive seen too often that it does not buy happiness. Spending time with people and enjoying what one does have is more important than anything these days....sure we all like the finer things in life but I also appreciate having to work for them...I might be a weird Leo in that respect but thats the gist of it.

I dunno....will just see where this goes - I have no expectations so I guess if it doesnt work out I wont be too disappointed but it is nice to spend so much time with him and to be a part of his life 🙂 I cant see him being a player so him spending this time with me does mean something....what? I am not sure, but its nice and its easy and there arent any doubts in my mind that he's genuine....watch this space LOL

I'm very romantic and I think if a Virgo is the empathetic kind, they will use that for their partner to have a great time. I wouldn't hesitate to put someone else's preferences before mine when choosing an evening out, for example. Because the pleasure I get from giving outweighs the pleasure of receiving.

HOWEVER!!!!

It's great if someone spots that and actually makes a point of telling me I need to TAKE. So you can do that for your Virgo man.

I've always believed if it's more blessed to give than recieve, being someone who CAN take is really important for the well-being of others. Now I just have to put it into practice. Being selfless can be a glorified avoidance technique if you're not careful, and unless the other person sort of forces you into give and take, eventually resentment can build up. So enjoy, but reciprocate!

I've not been around for a while and have missed your story, but it sounds as though you're having lots of fun!

I think that's great advice and thanks and yeah Im having fun. He's interstate at the moment but he's keeping in contact which is sweet so Im reciprocating but yes Ive noticed he's big on the giving and finds it hard to take so I'll make sure to keep an eye on that as although I am a Leo and apparently we're self centred, etc, I dont believe that really is the case as we enjoy spoiling the ones we love so I dont think he'll find me taking and not giving back 🙂

My last thing was with a Libra and he was all take, take, take so its really a breath of fresh air to find somebody who is actually balanced and has such a big heart.

He sent me a text earlier today telling me to not make any plans after work in the first week back (next week) as he intends on spending a lot of time with me to make up for being away this week (over New Years). How can I argue? LOL

I think Ive found a keeper with this one...for once in so very long its not hard work and I dont need to pursue and worry.

Thanks everybody and I wish you all a very Happy New Year....party hard 🙂

Well its January 3 here in Oz....Ive only heard from Virgo 3 times since he's been in Sydney and one was returning my initial text. I didnt receive even a text for NYE so I sent him one at midday on the 1st and he replied promptly (rather sweetly and with lots of kisses and he went on to say he tried to message me but the network was conjested, which is probably very true but he didnt try after that?)

Im beginning to feel he's really not that into me afterall. He returns tomorrow late afternoon and although I dont doubt I'll hear from him, I kinda get the feeling he's had 2nd thoughts about us and is doing the slow cool down and possibly has regrets that we became intimate - we work at the same place...I might be wrong but Im not getting good vibes.

He's staying with a high school friend (a female) so of course my thoughts are going to be of him seducing her although I know that is so far from the truth...PLUS he could have told me he was only staying with a mate, yada yada.....he's been very honest and when he does text me he lets me know he's doing the tourist thing.

I dont know whether he's just spent the last week unwiding (I hope so) and/or thinking we are a mistake or better case scenario, he's smitten LOL but the silence is deafening compared to our daily contact. His texts are finished off with "xxxxx" at the end but I still kinda get this strange feeling he's having 2nd thoughts.

Although he isnt doing the disappearing thing, Is it a normal thing for Virgos to go off and not communicate for days on end? Am I just worrying over nothing? He's as genuine as I could possibly have found to date....why do I get this terrible feeling things arent right just because he doesnt text me everyday?

Somebody slap me!!!

I guess Im just missing him and totally miss the daily contact we had before he left. I know IM being silly and thats why I have come here and not gone to him about it....he deserves to have fun and he deserves to see his friends in Sydney...its not about that and he's given me no reason to mistrust him, I guess I just miss him....blah!!!

He'll contact me tomorrow when he gets home Im sure. I'd have offered to pick him up from the airport but dont want to be pushy. Guess I'll see him on Monday *sigh*...havent seen him for a year you know—? LMAO

*Slaps herself for being so silly*

thanks theskys....I will do that and yeah, I wont contact him. Ive actually spent the last couple of days reorganising my house....EVERYTHING that is useless has been thrown out, a lot of useless stuff (to me) has been given to charity and this afternoon I even got into the backyard..so yeah, keeping busy. OMG the Virgo neatfreak has worn off on me!!! yikes!!! hahaha. Im physically exhausted from de-cluttering and weeding, etc....that my mind has turned to him....now just gotta keep my mind busy with ummm....oh yeah....bills LOL

Thanks, I will leave it to him to contact me and I know he will when he gets home....

🙂

Well we shall see....one thing I do refuse to do is to spend a year on a man for him to say when I ask where are we headed..."Im not ready for a relationship" as did the last guy and the guy who mucked me around for 5 years before that.

Im falling for this guy and its only been 2 months of dating so I cant really flap my arms and ask too much but it'd be nice to know if he's serious or not. Him not contacting me much whilst being away speaks volumes but Im also going away the week after next and well.....we shall see.

I have enough to keep myself busy and think perhaps its time to cool things down from my end too. He's back this afternoon and it'll be interesting to see if he makes contact or waits til work tomorrow. All I know is I wont be making any effort for a while and Im not being nasty but Ive been down this road before and it took a year for me to get over the guy so yeah leokitten you could be right or he could have just been busy and I know he HATES texts and phones, etc. He doesnt live for that kind of thing so I am cutting him some slack.

As I said, we'll see what the next few days brings. I aint going to get angry or hurt over something I dont know and have manifested in my own insecurity 🙂

*slow hand clap*

Leokitten what you wrote above has been on my mind and yeah I have told him what Im after and Ive also told him that if he sleeps with me then its only me, that if he wanted to have more than that, to let me go. He took that well and agreed and Im 99.99% sure he aint no player but like you said, out of sight, out of mind and I can understand that and will probably be the same during my week away, although my week away will be for work and as its a male dominated environment and industry he's probably not looking forward to that.

Im a very loyal leo (to a freaking fault damnit) and would never cheat or hurt somebody I love but I expect the same back.

Im also not a big fan of texts, yada yada but I guess I kinda got hurt that he didnt send me one for NYE and I had to send him one first then he said he tried but the network was conjested.....us silly women read into these things too much but I havent contacted him since and will leave him be til he comes back to me and that isnt so far away now. Before I know it he'll be showing me his pictures from the trip and we'll be talking of going o/s together again.

Man I was with the most aloof Libra man who was the genuine player for a year who never gave a crap about my feelings....its hard to forget how that was even though I took a year off of the dating scene...I guess Im just thinking the worst about the poor guy when he's done nothing wrong.

Again, its only the past and my insecurities of the past that even let these initial feelings seep through. He doesnt deserve that and thank goodness for DXP and you lovely people to bounce these things on...thank you 🙂

LOL I think he knows IM disappointed given I wrote to him first wishing him a Happy new year at lunchtime on New years day hoping he had a good night and that I'd catch up with him at work when he got back...thats when he wrote what he wrote...followed by lots of kisses....he'll know coz I didnt reply and have made no contact since. Its now been 3 days. He's back soon so we'll see if he bothers and/or tries to catch me online but I just refuse to live a relationship based on TM's and online chat when we work in the same place and live 5 minutes apart.

My ex Gemini gave me a kiss on the cheek on NYE once and we sat there awkwardly while our guests were pashing in front of us.....he was more interested in watching them than indulging me LOL....so glad that relationship ended, so glad 🙂

As far as Valentines Day? OMG that isnt so far away either....forgot all about that. By then Im sure we've had our romantic picnic with the motorbike in our famous vineyard locations, been out to dinner a few more times, had sex a few more times la la la.....

I think I just got ahead of myself because absence makes the heart grow fonder? I dont know...but yeah I was disappointed, totally!!

My new years resolution though, well one of a few, is to focus more on work and travel more so with or without him Im going to do that....I have so much vacation accrued that Im ready in 2009 to go for it. Life's too short to wait anymore or hold on to what ifs or maybes.

He probaby has gotten me something knowing him....we'll see. I would if I went somewhere...but thats me.

OMG how did you ever date an Aqua? being a Leo and having such a wishy washy sign in your life? We need strong committed men. Aquas are so aloof and live in their heads!!! You must be glad you're out of that surely?

I know many male Aquas and even the females? OMG can they be horrible but then again Leos and Aquas are polar opposites - we dont get one another at all. You deserve a medal for trying 🙂

tease LOL

Chatz, my memory is feeble but I believe on a different thread I suggested you should give him space... which you have done fine with, but at that point (just as he was leaving for the week) you were more ok about the space. Th thing with a Leo is - and don't get me wrong, I love Leos! love you and admire respect and worship you too, if I know what is good for me - you are very willing to give space, but on the other hand, he had better act right. Just not sure a Virgo is always going to be able to hit the mark on his own. You're going to have to tell him, like leokitten said. And also like LK said, don't be whiny and clingy, because if you make him feel too guilty, he'll want to avoid you. Just kindly but firmly let him know what you expect - and if he cares for you, trust me, he'll never slip up again (on that particular thing, that is.). Now of course it is much nicer if it comes spontaneously without him having to be told, and if having to tell him ruins it for you, then I don't hold out much hope. But if it's worth it to you, by all means tell him, and believe me he'll be flawless in future.

Virgos, romantic? I guess they are if they pick up that's what you want. However the Virgos I know in their natural state and habitat are pretty down to earth. Certainly not romantic in any of the standardized ways - but that's just us with each other, maybe. I don't happen to like that kind of thing, so around me, they needn't act that way. But perhaps that's why we make better best friends than lovers. Even as lovers - pretty down to earth. Me and my Virguy exchanged Xmas presents - kind of thrust them at each other awkwardly as we do - and they were the perfect things. Small things but perfect. We each exclaimed and not the standard rote words but with genuine appreciation. I still think that the perfect companion for a Virgo is another Virgo. But nothing wrong with branching out and broadening horizons. I suppose for a lot of Virgos being with another Virgo is like kissing your sister.

Athena

ot sure yet...its 6.30am and getting ready for the first day back at work...he didnt message me to tell me he was back....guess that speaks volumes. We'll see today but it doesnt look good from where Im sitting.

Nah he's making it a little obvious now that he's not interested in more....I did actually say hi (silly I know) and he wrote back, "hope you had a great Xmas and New Year - ummm well I did spend Xmas with him) and that he had a good trip up until this morning when he finds things are broken here at work and that he'll chat once he's sorted through them.

I'll be busy this afternoon though so I guess maybe tomorrow we'll catch up....this is so stupid...Im being paranoid...OMG WTF?

Chatz,

Try to be patient. Y'all work together, and that's a tough minefield for a VirGuy to tiptoe through. For months I fought the urge to start something with my Scorp because we worked in the same building...

Virgs take work seriously (okay, we take everything seriously, but we take work seriously to the umpteenth power!), and he's smart enough to know that if y'all go sour, it's gonna affect the workplace, and that's gonna make him much more hesitant with you than he might be otherwise...

Yeah, a Cancer Guy will act like a big teet-in-mouth-all-the-bloody-time baby!

VirGuy is wwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too independent and self-sufficient to act like that!

FYI: My best friend for 42+ years now is a Cancer, so I have nothing against them, but they are much clingier than the typical VirGuy...

he is being a dorkass.

True, but he is a Virgo. Dorky is how we appear - until you know us better.

Plus, VirGuy will assume that you're as independent & self-sufficient as he is, until he knows you better...

Chatz,

I already told you that my Leo Mom & Virgo Dad had a very stormy courtship. Every woman is different, and has different needs & expectations for a relationship...

- and vice versa!

Cancer Women are supposed to be a perfect match for a Virgo Man like me, but I've yet to meet one that I would ever seriously consider - all that weeping gets on my last nerve!

Leo & Virgo are not a natural match, and yet my parents were a very happy couple.

Just depends on you, and what you want -- and, what you bring to the relationship...

basically he was a wimp.

Okay, but was he a cry-baby?? Or, just a quiet nice guy??

Some women interpret the latter as wimpiness...

So... a Leo gal turned a VirGuy against another Leo gal...

He's not the typical VirGuy - we're loyal to our family & friends.

I love my Scorpio Wife 100% . She doesn't like my younger Scorpio Brother. I would NEVER turn my back on my Brother if she asked me to. I do try to minimize any antagonism between them, but that's because I'm loyal to both, and want to serve as peace-maker...

Most of the VirGuys I know are like me in that respect...

OK he's been trying all day. I didnt have to say anything...was a tad cold at first but he's worked his way through it....he knows, Im sure of that.

Yes the aloofness rubs me up the wrong way and I will say something and/or ask whats with that - surely thats not being too clingy/needy. Aloofness = memories of Libra...not good ones...I guess I have a lot of bad memories and before you all say I have sour grapes that isnt the case as Ive worked hard in the last year to get over the guy and start again....its just that I know what I will and wont take anymore.

As I said, he's been workign hard this afternoon....gotta give him credit. Yes talks of travelling o/s have arisen again but Im going to keep it cool for a while longer, afterall I think thats what he wants.....apparently men love to chase and he's been doing it for months for goodness sake and yeah the work thing? Understand completely and I put it off this long because of that very fact....I know and have seen of so many things go sour here at work. I was very cautious until I was sure and ready but as soon as I did? yikes!!!

In time it'll probably be ok again but the next few days will be a bit standoffish although he wants to see me tonight - I did put him off until tomorrow night.....I cant be too available!!

I dunno....you're probably right, Leos and Virgos arent the best match but I do try to see it from his side and from his way of thinking. I do care about him a great deal and thats why I came on here and not harp on about things to him....it may very well save me from making a terrible assumption/mistake.

Thanks everybody....I think Ive missed him terribly and paranoia in amongst it doesnt help....gotta stop thinking of the past and focus on the future

indeed and thats why I took a year out....and of course he's still healing from his wife's death...I take that into consideration also..he may just not be ready for anything too emotional just yet...

In a way I need to let him know Im ready for more but not be too clingy or risk putting a lot into it again for him to just have used me as a stepping stone for a new relationship when he is ready....I just cant see that he'd be into FWB or a player...I just cant but the last week away? he just did a complete 360....him chatting to me today though? like no time had passed....THATS the part that reminds me so much of Libra...yikes.

We'll see but Ive calmed down and we're having dinner Wednesday night...he'd have had it tonight but he can wait a few more days as he's busy tomorrow night with a mate who has his daughter only on Tuesdays and he's got a Xmas present for her - cant complain about that...he's a sweetheart in that department.

Time will tell but yeah I have to cool down a bit and let him come to me more. Poor thing, he must have really got a bad vibe today but a little bit of fear in a man wont hurt surely 😛

DyarStrasse (OMg I dont have that key on my keyboard!!!)

I know what you mean about Virgos being loyal their family and friends....Virguy is so loyal to his and all my Virgo female friends? they fiercely protect the ones they love and would never put them 2nd best....thats an awesome trait and one a Leo loves as we are sooooo the same 🙂

LOL ok....he hasnt stopped trying today...I think its all good but yep will keep you informed.

Looking forward to our dinner on Wednesday night 🙂

OK dinner was good and we spent the entire evening just talking and laughing and drinking way too much (yes Im a tad hungover this morning LOL). Its like he was never gone for that week, its like no time had passed.

I dont know where its going but it felt good to be around him again. We talk without any awkward pauses...it just flows so freely. And now he's chatting to me constantly at work on communicator (msn equivalent)....thankfully I can do 2 things at once and it doesnt interfere with work LOL.

He wants to cook for me, take me on this bike ride through the hills, go travelling....I guess I just need to stop getting ahead of myself and enjoy the ride as we go along and not have expectations.

Did I mention I had an awesome night with him?? hehehe

OK I feel a bit better now - gawd will I ever learn to not have late ones during the working week? sheesh!!!

Yeah it was really good and like I said, it was like we'd never been apart and I still find his quietness while he was away strange but I suppose he is still finding himself and I know he didnt play up while away as he explained what he did and what this friend of his meant to him....and if he didnt want me to know about her he'd never have mentioned her in the first place as Id be none the wiser had he just said he was staying with a mate so I feel confident all is well as it should be.

He's still not giving anything away and I refuse to also. He's somewhat shy and definitely shy with women in a romantic sense although he can talk to anybody and normally does, cant shut him up LOL. But like I said, we dont have awkward moments talking, it goes so freely and the tv can be on in the background and he doesnt watch it intently...he truly focusses on us and what I have to say and Im thinking thats a good sign...Ive been with guys where as soon as their eyes fixate on the telly the conversation is over!!! It is not the case with him at all and he just loves talking about just anything - its great.

Im feeling a bit better about things now and confident it will only grow from here. He's truly interested in what I have to say and wants to include me in future things so its looking promising. He's very laid back and there is NOTHING that phases him - well not on the outside anyway....he never raises his voice, never frets, never has anything negative to say (I know thats coming, being a Virgo and all hehehe) and is just so interesting to be with. He cant do enough for me either, always trying to take care of me..its just so sweet and cuddly? wow!!!