Virgos Are Narcissists
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Astrology as it is seen today is not the same as it was pre-Biblically. The intended purpose of astrology was manifold; ancient astrologers called a spade a spade, and much of what was portrayed was the well-balanced facet of each sign.
People uninitiated to ancient astrology ??? including many professional astrologers ??? tend to go by stereotypes rather than coming to their own conclusions through the observations in day-to day-life.
After close to a decade of observation, I offer my understanding of Virgo below. It has proven to be uniformly true; if you have any doubts, apply it to a Virgo in your neighborhood.
The image of Virgo as portrayed by the books is one of a nubile girl of snow flake purity viewing her reflection in a pond, or that of the Greek goddess Hygiea carrying a sheaf of corn. For purposes relating to the root word virgin, we stick to the former image.
The true image of Virgo as portrayed by the Greeks was that of Narcissus, a human who rejects the unconditional love of a woman called Echo and is cursed by a goddess to be so much in love with himself that he is transfixed to the side of a pool gazing at his own reflection, unwilling to quench his thirst for the fear that it will kill the image.
Astrological books portray the sign as one of sincerity, honesty, smartness, etc. Agreed, these traits might exist, but as will be shown are a smokescreen.
Every human is self-important and has a ego which is healthy. A narcissist has a pathological self-importance and rigid ego boundaries. Only when the ego boundaries are flexible does a person merge with another or a group for a greater cause.
It is the rigidity of ego boundaries and extreme narcissism which makes the sign a ???virgin,?? for a virgin is one who has let nothing inside him or her. Here virginity has nothing to do with sexual themes or purity of intentions.
The glyph of a Virgo has the arrow pointing towards itself, whereas the glyph of a Scorpio has the arrow pointing outward. The former is a selfish concern and the latter a group concern. The arrow indicates intentions and activities. The actions of a narcissist might seem to be selfless and pure, but if you tear apart the veneer of pretense, you find the narcissist acting for his own benefits. He fools the whole world.
An example: Mother Teresa (August 26, 1910), who conned the entire world with her saintly image and her supposed cause of the poor and do
Astrology as it is seen today is not the same as it was pre-Biblically. The intended purpose of astrology was manifold; ancient astrologers called a spade a spade, and much of what was portrayed was the well-balanced facet of each sign.
People uninitiated to ancient astrology ??? including many professional astrologers ??? tend to go by stereotypes rather than coming to their own conclusions through the observations in day-to day-life.
After close to a decade of observation, I offer my understanding of Virgo below. It has proven to be uniformly true; if you have any doubts, apply it to a Virgo in your neighborhood.
The image of Virgo as portrayed by the books is one of a nubile girl of snow flake purity viewing her reflection in a pond, or that of the Greek goddess Hygiea carrying a sheaf of corn. For purposes relating to the root word virgin, we stick to the former image.
The true image of Virgo as portrayed by the Greeks was that of Narcissus, a human who rejects the unconditional love of a woman called Echo and is cursed by a goddess to be so much in love with himself that he is transfixed to the side of a pool gazing at his own reflection, unwilling to quench his thirst for the fear that it will kill the image.
Astrological books portray the sign as one of sincerity, honesty, smartness, etc. Agreed, these traits might exist, but as will be shown are a smokescreen.
Every human is self-important and has a ego which is healthy. A narcissist has a pathological self-importance and rigid ego boundaries. Only when the ego boundaries are flexible does a person merge with another or a group for a greater cause.
It is the rigidity of ego boundaries and extreme narcissism which makes the sign a ???virgin,?? for a virgin is one who has let nothing inside him or her. Here virginity has nothing to do with sexual themes or purity of intentions.
The glyph of a Virgo has the arrow pointing towards itself, whereas the glyph of a Scorpio has the arrow pointing outward. The former is a selfish concern and the latter a group concern. The arrow indicates intentions and activities. The actions of a narcissist might seem to be selfless and pure, but if you tear apart the veneer of pretense, you find the narcissist acting for his own benefits. He fools the whole world.
An example: Mother Teresa (August 26, 1910), who conned the entire world with her saintly image and her supposed cause of the poor and do
here is a link http://sasstrology.com/2010/06/virgos-are-narcissists.html
An example: Mother Teresa (August 26, 1910), who conned the entire world with her saintly image and her supposed cause of the poor and downtrodden. She was nothing more than a missionary planting her denomination in every corner of the world with funds donated from western countries, using the poor of India as bait. If one were to google ???Mother Teresa fraud or Mother Teresa blogspot?? you will come across articles which expose her. She claimed to have this many hospitals here and so many orphanages there, but the truth was she had nothing, what she had was idle funds lying in banks to the tune of billions.
Narcissists are smooth liars and great criminals and can be really psychopathic. They might stop at nothing to have their way, for what they lack is a moral conscience. They have extreme self-importance and grandiose delusional disorders. A case was that of Michael Jackson (August 29, 1958). He had images of himself being knighted, crowned and so on at his home in Los Angeles.
The narcissist lives through his image and not through himself. Jackson was alive so long as his audience was present. Without the adoring and flattering audience, he could not thrive.
Narcissists thrive on flattery. In case they are denied flatter, they seek negative attention-seeking methods. This is one common and dangerous Virgo trait. They are not passive, contented people sitting a corner. They seek the limelight and might do so with their attention-seeking character.
Narcissists cannot stand the truth exposed or their image shattered. Virgos cannot stand criticism. They likely go to criminal lengths to silence their critics. Most astrologers are of the opinion that Virgos are so critical of themselves that they do not need outsiders to do the same. Wrong!!! It is a narcissist that evades criticism arrogantly; they can get physically violent upon criticism. If you criticize a Virgo boss, be prepared to look out for another job.
An example: Mother Teresa (August 26, 1910), who conned the entire world with her saintly image and her supposed cause of the poor and downtrodden. She was nothing more than a missionary planting her denomination in every corner of the world with funds donated from western countries, using the poor of India as bait. If one were to google ???Mother Teresa fraud or Mother Teresa blogspot?? you will come across articles which expose her. She claimed to have this many hospitals here and so many orphanages there, but the truth was she had nothing, what she had was idle funds lying in banks to the tune of billions.
Narcissists are smooth liars and great criminals and can be really psychopathic. They might stop at nothing to have their way, for what they lack is a moral conscience. They have extreme self-importance and grandiose delusional disorders. A case was that of Michael Jackson (August 29, 1958). He had images of himself being knighted, crowned and so on at his home in Los Angeles.
The narcissist lives through his image and not through himself. Jackson was alive so long as his audience was present. Without the adoring and flattering audience, he could not thrive.
Narcissists thrive on flattery. In case they are denied flatter, they seek negative attention-seeking methods. This is one common and dangerous Virgo trait. They are not passive, contented people sitting a corner. They seek the limelight and might do so with their attention-seeking character.
Narcissists cannot stand the truth exposed or their image shattered. Virgos cannot stand criticism. They likely go to criminal lengths to silence their critics. Most astrologers are of the opinion that Virgos are so critical of themselves that they do not need outsiders to do the same. Wrong!!! It is a narcissist that evades criticism arrogantly; they can get physically violent upon criticism. If you criticize a Virgo boss, be prepared to look out for another job.
Virgos have a herd mentality; they go more by the crowd than by the truth. They subscribe to the argument that if the majority says something is true, it must be; if the lie is repeated often, it becomes the truth and it is never a crime until one is caught.
The sign of Virgo knows the brutal truth, but it is more a sign of appeasing the crocodile with politically correct versions hoping that the croc might eat them the last. They will most likely listen to a puritanical sermon and later sleep with a prostitute.
Astrologers equate Virgo with smartness. Smartness is not the same as Wisdom. Smartness is a teenage trait and Wisdom comes through trials and tribulations in life. Smartness is akin to pulling one??s leg.
The narcissism of Leo is overt; that of Virgo is covert, which is more dangerous. Neptune is exalted in Leo. Pluto is an enigma which has part exaltation in Leo and part in Virgo. Perversion of power leads to narcissism.
A narcissist is likely to spoil the primary relation, job or psychology of another human; Virgos are known to do that precisely. If you trust a Virgo or vouch for him, he will let you down, for this is the sign of moral cowardice or a cat on the wall.
Take the myth of Vulcan (Virgo), the lame blacksmith, and his wife Venus (Taurus). The latter turned him inside out with her infidelity with Mars (Aries). Venus hated her husband, for he was not just physically but mentally a misfit.
The sign of Virgo knows the brutal truth, but it is more a sign of appeasing the crocodile with politically correct versions hoping that the croc might eat them the last. They will most likely listen to a puritanical sermon and later sleep with a prostitute.
Astrologers equate Virgo with smartness. Smartness is not the same as Wisdom. Smartness is a teenage trait and Wisdom comes through trials and tribulations in life. Smartness is akin to pulling one??s leg.
The narcissism of Leo is overt; that of Virgo is covert, which is more dangerous. Neptune is exalted in Leo. Pluto is an enigma which has part exaltation in Leo and part in Virgo. Perversion of power leads to narcissism.
A narcissist is likely to spoil the primary relation, job or psychology of another human; Virgos are known to do that precisely. If you trust a Virgo or vouch for him, he will let you down, for this is the sign of moral cowardice or a cat on the wall.
Take the myth of Vulcan (Virgo), the lame blacksmith, and his wife Venus (Taurus). The latter turned him inside out with her infidelity with Mars (Aries). Venus hated her husband, for he was not just physically but mentally a misfit.
And the king of the narcissists
i guess ima big Narcissist cuz its all about me muhahahahahahahahahahahaha lmfao.
im one but i don't give a damn maybe its the leo lilth in me lol in vedic astrology augs virgos and early sep virgos like me are leos maybe its true lol. but im to smart to be a leo lol.
Posted by virgoking
im one but i don't give a damn maybe its the leo lilth in me lol in vedic astrology augs virgos and early sep virgos like me are leos maybe its true lol. but im to smart to be a leo lol.
leos are okay having 2 leo parents they are a pain but leos kinda grow on you i guess thats why i always thought i was a leo because we are born all in august plus i have a leo moon go figure lol.
lol my mom is a leo and my grandmother and half of my fam are there ok they don't really bother me.
i have been saying this for months!
I don't know. Micheal never really came off as a narcissist to me. Narcissism means an inordinate fascination with oneself. Was he that in love with himself as to have his face worked on? I think not. Especially so since we've gotten a glimpse at his inner feelings.
narcissists don't necessarily have to like themselves to be obsessed with themselves. in fact, narcissists have typically have low self-esteem. personally, i've never met a virgo who wasn't self-loathing. i don't care how well they might convince others of the contrary but their inner dialogue is pretty negative.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652/DSECTION=symptoms
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/narcissistic-personality-disorder/DS00652/DSECTION=symptoms
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Narcissists cannot stand the truth exposed or their image shattered. Virgos cannot stand criticism. They likely go to criminal lengths to silence their critics. Most astrologers are of the opinion that Virgos are so critical of themselves that they do not need outsiders to do the same. Wrong!!! It is a narcissist that evades criticism arrogantly; they can get physically violent upon criticism. If you criticize a Virgo boss, be prepared to look out for another job.
^^^this tendency is what has always bothered me about virgos. it's kinda scary to witness. not the anger...haven't seen that in an explosive way but the outright refusal to accept fault or wrongdoing.
^^^this tendency is what has always bothered me about virgos. it's kinda scary to witness. not the anger...haven't seen that in an explosive way but the outright refusal to accept fault or wrongdoing.
Posted by tubbyscubby
^^^this tendency is what has always bothered me about virgos. it's kinda scary to witness. not the anger...haven't seen that in an explosive way but the outright refusal to accept fault or wrongdoing.
I'm working on that... :X
It's the only way to get better.
The hard part is moving on after the truth, "You're just not all that great" sets in. In this period I'm just a very depressing person to be around. You can see the flowers nearby wilt and shrivel up near my presence.
jason, i think it's virgo's achilles heel. every sign has theirs but having witnessed so many of my virgo friends lose close friends due to their either being overly critical OR refusing to accept criticism is sad.
as much as they claim to not care about the loss, they CLEARLY care about it. if the shunned friend comes up in conversation, you're generally met with a litany of "all the things i did for him/her."
if you suggest something as simple as, "why don't you say i'm sorry," the virgo will get mad at you!!! imagine that, merely suggesting an apology can piss a virgo off. and if they don't get pissed, they put on that cold, unemotional, dismissive facade.
in the end, now they're not only mad at the friend they lost but they're mad at another friend for daring to suggest a resolution that involved the virgo admitting wrong doing.
MADNESS!
i think with all of us, whatever our vice is, the first step is recognizing that there's actually an issue. as dr. phil (virgo) says, you can't change what you don't acknowledge.
as much as they claim to not care about the loss, they CLEARLY care about it. if the shunned friend comes up in conversation, you're generally met with a litany of "all the things i did for him/her."
if you suggest something as simple as, "why don't you say i'm sorry," the virgo will get mad at you!!! imagine that, merely suggesting an apology can piss a virgo off. and if they don't get pissed, they put on that cold, unemotional, dismissive facade.
in the end, now they're not only mad at the friend they lost but they're mad at another friend for daring to suggest a resolution that involved the virgo admitting wrong doing.
MADNESS!
i think with all of us, whatever our vice is, the first step is recognizing that there's actually an issue. as dr. phil (virgo) says, you can't change what you don't acknowledge.
my opinion on narcissism and the signs... a couple of signs...
virgos have precarious fun with narcissism and leos perfect it.
i've never known a narcissistic virgo to get away with it. it's always come back to bite them in the ass somehow.
leos on the other hand are adored for their narcissism.
virgos seem to wear narcissism like a pretty new outfit they just bought.
leos wear narcissism because it's their birthday suit
...based on the virgos and leos I know
but i still think narcissism is cute on a virgo. virgos can be very charming about it. as long as its given in smaller doses... ehem. then again I could be biased having a virgo bff and a virguy
virgos have precarious fun with narcissism and leos perfect it.
i've never known a narcissistic virgo to get away with it. it's always come back to bite them in the ass somehow.
leos on the other hand are adored for their narcissism.
virgos seem to wear narcissism like a pretty new outfit they just bought.
leos wear narcissism because it's their birthday suit
...based on the virgos and leos I know
but i still think narcissism is cute on a virgo. virgos can be very charming about it. as long as its given in smaller doses... ehem. then again I could be biased having a virgo bff and a virguy
true. i think the difference might be that leos are fixed signs and are unapologetic in a way for their outlook. they too are sensitive but ultimately hold themselves in higher esteem. they have the ability to turn these negative traits into positives.
virgos....again, i don't think they have high esteem. i don't think they hold themselves in high regard and that might be due to the personal criticisms? like how can you hold yourself up when internally you're putting yourself down?
virgos....again, i don't think they have high esteem. i don't think they hold themselves in high regard and that might be due to the personal criticisms? like how can you hold yourself up when internally you're putting yourself down?
Bits of truth mixed with personal bias, good read.
Posted by Cajunspirit
Bits of truth mixed with personal bias, good read.
I think so to, I think its a hick up of the last sign before us. I notice this with mutable signs, Leo are very narcissits so we have hints of it, scorpio are known for huge anger sags have huge anger to, aquarius are wacky pisces are very wacky to lol. I call it hick ups of the last sign.
lol...
DEFLECTION!
always someone else. you read an article that is specifically about you and instead of owning it or pointing out where you specifically disagree, it must be personal bias or due to the faults of other signs.
the whole article was about how virgo can't take criticism and looky loo...virgos who can't take criticism.
the fact that yall don't get it is PRICELESS!
if i do a read up on taurus, i don't say well, this is because of aries, this is because of gemini and that's because the moon shined full on uranus. have some freakin integrity at least. you could counter by saying that you are not comprised by your sun sign but no, always someone else's fault.
i thank you all for repeatedly proving that you are indeed narcissistic psychos and now there's a wonderfully illustrated write up on it.
DEFLECTION!
always someone else. you read an article that is specifically about you and instead of owning it or pointing out where you specifically disagree, it must be personal bias or due to the faults of other signs.
the whole article was about how virgo can't take criticism and looky loo...virgos who can't take criticism.
the fact that yall don't get it is PRICELESS!
if i do a read up on taurus, i don't say well, this is because of aries, this is because of gemini and that's because the moon shined full on uranus. have some freakin integrity at least. you could counter by saying that you are not comprised by your sun sign but no, always someone else's fault.
i thank you all for repeatedly proving that you are indeed narcissistic psychos and now there's a wonderfully illustrated write up on it.
Posted by tubbyscubby
lol...
DEFLECTION!
always someone else. you read an article that is specifically about you and instead of owning it or pointing out where you specifically disagree, it must be personal bias or due to the faults of other signs.
the whole article was about how virgo can't take criticism and looky loo...virgos who can't take criticism.
the fact that yall don't get it is PRICELESS!
if i do a read up on taurus, i don't say well, this is because of aries, this is because of gemini and that's because the moon shined full on uranus. have some freakin integrity at least. you could counter by saying that you are not comprised by your sun sign but no, always someone else's fault.
i thank you all for repeatedly proving that you are indeed narcissistic psychos and now there's a wonderfully illustrated write up on it.
Well you could tarus is very vain its only bc your sharing venus when u have your true ruler it will be different get it.
actually venus fits taurus and libra if you read the mythology on the bull you will see why it fits if you read about venus it fits libra well.
they are to sides of the same coin like
virgo and gemini because of mercury.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
actually venus fits taurus and libra if you read the mythology on the bull you will see why it fits if you read about venus it fits libra well.
they are to sides of the same coin like
virgo and gemini because of mercury.
yes its the whole day time night time ruler ship thing you should read up on that but the fact is apollo is taurus true ruler. Just like astrologers always new scorpio true ruler is pluto but it also share mars. Just like back in the day aquraus share saturn but now it has uranus. And sag and pisces use to share jupiter now pisces has neptune astrologer always new this but could not see it from earth. You should read more before you act like you know what your talking about.
excuse me know it all lmfao
i read about apollo and i know about rulerships and thats how i can say venus fits tarusu because of they're nature which is pleasure pleasure and more pleasure anything that has to do with venus its all them i think you need to read about them more.
this is venus
Venus is associated with Taurus and Libra and is concerned with love and personal relationships, as well as arts and fashion. It encourages generosity and tactfulness but it can also be possessive. It can cause a person under stress to be indecisive and co-dependent on another.
and what Taurus is known as what KEY WORD PLEASE WAIT FOR IT LMFAO POSSESSIVE meaning they like to own people or things like materials and big factor of venus ruled people.
Posted by LeGendary ViRGo
excuse me know it all lmfao
i read about apollo and i know about rulerships and thats how i can say venus fits tarusu because of they're nature which is pleasure pleasure and more pleasure anything that has to do with venus its all them i think you need to read about them more.
this is venus
Venus is associated with Taurus and Libra and is concerned with love and personal relationships, as well as arts and fashion. It encourages generosity and tactfulness but it can also be possessive. It can cause a person under stress to be indecisive and co-dependent on another.
and what Taurus is known as what KEY WORD PLEASE WAIT FOR IT LMFAO POSSESSIVE meaning they like to own people or things like materials and big factor of venus ruled people.
Its natural for libras to be ruled by venus but its not for taurus there just sharing it. Taurus like the beautie of things well libra enjoy all things associated with venus not just the superficial stuff like taurus. Virgo as you know is ruled by mercury we like learning new things that we need or we think we might need. Were as gems like learning all things thats why so many other sign calls us narrow minded, a Better example is, virgo only shows its talkative side when we know someone, were as gem don't need to know they will just talk. Its also is the reason for our akwardness its not natural for us. We have to share this planets now so we get half of there power were the true rulers can use all of it at any time get it.
LMAO!
answering a deflection allegation with further deflection? it's that easy eh?
answering a deflection allegation with further deflection? it's that easy eh?
I got lost on this page.
I got lost too.
I would like to say that my inner dialogue is very negative. But somehow on the outside people like me. Even though I know the truth about how horrible I really am. I guess thats why It takes me a while to get comfortable talking about myself with people..like I need to make sure they will be the type to accept me first.
as far as not saying sorry, its sometimes i will say it just to stop the other from being mad at me. sometimes I actually mean it. sometimes I can convince myself that I mean it more than I know i do... then sometimes I dont say it at all...but thats everyone maybe?
I do love praise though...absolutely LOVE it..thats also the venus in leo..i think...
I would like to say that my inner dialogue is very negative. But somehow on the outside people like me. Even though I know the truth about how horrible I really am. I guess thats why It takes me a while to get comfortable talking about myself with people..like I need to make sure they will be the type to accept me first.
as far as not saying sorry, its sometimes i will say it just to stop the other from being mad at me. sometimes I actually mean it. sometimes I can convince myself that I mean it more than I know i do... then sometimes I dont say it at all...but thats everyone maybe?
I do love praise though...absolutely LOVE it..thats also the venus in leo..i think...
as an outsider who knows more virgos than any other sign, it's these two passages that are common to EVERY virgo i know. indeed, some are far worse than others..not every virgo is mother theresa or MJ. you could probably go a lifetime without really noticing or caring about these traits in your virgo because they're vices. i.e. if i'm being stubborn, people who care about me may ignore this trait when it's displayed negatively if my overall positives outweigh it. the same for virgo and the following...
The glyph of a Virgo has the arrow pointing towards itself, whereas the glyph of a Scorpio has the arrow pointing outward. The former is a selfish concern and the latter a group concern. The arrow indicates intentions and activities. The actions of a narcissist might seem to be selfless and pure, but if you tear apart the veneer of pretense, you find the narcissist acting for his own benefits. He fools the whole world.
when you "help," you need to be honest about the reasons behind the gestures. more often than not it pleases/benefits you and if it's done for your pleasure/benefit, that's your return. in short, don't play martyr when you feel depleted, don't fault others for not appreciating you because more often than not, you gave willingly, selfishly and the help may not have been desired/requested to begin with.
Narcissists cannot stand the truth exposed or their image shattered. Virgos cannot stand criticism. They likely go to criminal lengths to silence their critics. Most astrologers are of the opinion that Virgos are so critical of themselves that they do not need outsiders to do the same. Wrong!!! It is a narcissist that evades criticism arrogantly; they can get physically violent upon criticism. If you criticize a Virgo boss, be prepared to look out for another job.
already explained this one but to add, when you take one of your infamous breaks, ask yourself what triggered the break. 9 times out of 10 criticism sparked it. you will try to convince yourself it's them by questioning if you even need their friendship. you would rather lose the friend than examine yourself. so you'll deflect.
i also noticed this is when virgo is most HYPOcritical. you may actually criticize someone for behaviors that you're currently exhibiting.
The glyph of a Virgo has the arrow pointing towards itself, whereas the glyph of a Scorpio has the arrow pointing outward. The former is a selfish concern and the latter a group concern. The arrow indicates intentions and activities. The actions of a narcissist might seem to be selfless and pure, but if you tear apart the veneer of pretense, you find the narcissist acting for his own benefits. He fools the whole world.
when you "help," you need to be honest about the reasons behind the gestures. more often than not it pleases/benefits you and if it's done for your pleasure/benefit, that's your return. in short, don't play martyr when you feel depleted, don't fault others for not appreciating you because more often than not, you gave willingly, selfishly and the help may not have been desired/requested to begin with.
Narcissists cannot stand the truth exposed or their image shattered. Virgos cannot stand criticism. They likely go to criminal lengths to silence their critics. Most astrologers are of the opinion that Virgos are so critical of themselves that they do not need outsiders to do the same. Wrong!!! It is a narcissist that evades criticism arrogantly; they can get physically violent upon criticism. If you criticize a Virgo boss, be prepared to look out for another job.
already explained this one but to add, when you take one of your infamous breaks, ask yourself what triggered the break. 9 times out of 10 criticism sparked it. you will try to convince yourself it's them by questioning if you even need their friendship. you would rather lose the friend than examine yourself. so you'll deflect.
i also noticed this is when virgo is most HYPOcritical. you may actually criticize someone for behaviors that you're currently exhibiting.
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Fuck it, this only proves how much we rule the world. Besides we are always right, and everyone is always wrong. We win through the bias we sell and the lies we bond to others. Oh wait, let tubby write a term paper on our devilish ways, muhahahahahaa!
Oldie but goodie lol
Oldie but goodie lol
Oldie but goodie lol
think so too. >_
This sounds like something P-Angel or CluelessCancer would write.
This thread, to me, only illustrates the truth...the world is simply becoming narcissists feeding on other narcissists. FB, Instagram, etc bear this out.
Building up a false image because we can't face the truth about ourselves and much less deal with the realities of life and other people. Love is consumed and not shared. Bottled and sold to those that are thirsty. Emptiness
Building up a false image because we can't face the truth about ourselves and much less deal with the realities of life and other people. Love is consumed and not shared. Bottled and sold to those that are thirsty. Emptiness
Virgoking my friend, at first glance your topic might seem true. It might feel true especially to many virgos who've read it, like me. But you've basically highlighted our real problem. We are so self-critical that anything bad said against us we accept as true. But the fact is we're not bad people, we're good people who think we are not good enough. Any criticism exasperates it, just like your topic.
For example, I don't help people to look good. I help people because I want those people to succeed and it gives me great satisfaction knowing they have, and I don't care if I'm given credit for it. It makes me happy to know that I've contributed to their success. See? This is the virgo's deal. We don't stand up for ourselves enough. We don't say 'yo, you're wrong', this happened because of this, this and this, not because I'm a bad person. We don't actually sit and think, we just automatically assume we're in the wrong and maybe this causes us to hate criticism. It's because we find it hard to defend against when we are so self-critical. We are not prepared to stand up for ourselves. But we have to be dammit. We can't let people shit all over us. I know so many virgos and we're good, decent.
And don't give me that herd mentality bullshit. I used to feel this way about myself, but it's because I didn't want to be wrong or out of place. I've grown out of it. I do what I feel and know, to the best of ability, what is right. Look at Warren Buffet, does he look like a herd-follower? NO! And you know what, I actually look in the mirror less when I feel l'm looking good, then when I'm looking bad, but that's because I'm trying to 'fix it'. I don't sit in front of the mirror and admire myself. Only after a work-out which I'm pretty sure every man under the sun does. ''Oh but nooo, you're a virgo, that makes you a narcissist!'' Bullshit!
I do not let people down if I care about them enough. I will go to the ends of the earth to make them happy or to make up for a mistake.
A lot of what you wrote could be true for many virgos (and other signs by the way), but not for me.
For example, I don't help people to look good. I help people because I want those people to succeed and it gives me great satisfaction knowing they have, and I don't care if I'm given credit for it. It makes me happy to know that I've contributed to their success. See? This is the virgo's deal. We don't stand up for ourselves enough. We don't say 'yo, you're wrong', this happened because of this, this and this, not because I'm a bad person. We don't actually sit and think, we just automatically assume we're in the wrong and maybe this causes us to hate criticism. It's because we find it hard to defend against when we are so self-critical. We are not prepared to stand up for ourselves. But we have to be dammit. We can't let people shit all over us. I know so many virgos and we're good, decent.
And don't give me that herd mentality bullshit. I used to feel this way about myself, but it's because I didn't want to be wrong or out of place. I've grown out of it. I do what I feel and know, to the best of ability, what is right. Look at Warren Buffet, does he look like a herd-follower? NO! And you know what, I actually look in the mirror less when I feel l'm looking good, then when I'm looking bad, but that's because I'm trying to 'fix it'. I don't sit in front of the mirror and admire myself. Only after a work-out which I'm pretty sure every man under the sun does. ''Oh but nooo, you're a virgo, that makes you a narcissist!'' Bullshit!
I do not let people down if I care about them enough. I will go to the ends of the earth to make them happy or to make up for a mistake.
A lot of what you wrote could be true for many virgos (and other signs by the way), but not for me.
I think the real problem with this particular article is that it's written in such a way as to only be condemning. If a Virgo attempts to refute the POV, then they'll be seen as denying some kind of truth and silencing their critics, becoming a narcissist by default. And yet, if a Virgo embraces the information and admits that maybe they aren't all that, then they'll be self-loathing narcissists. Either way it seems that Virgo loses.
So I say poo on it.
So I say poo on it.
Posted by tubbyscubby
Narcissists cannot stand the truth exposed or their image shattered. Virgos cannot stand criticism. They likely go to criminal lengths to silence their critics. Most astrologers are of the opinion that Virgos are so critical of themselves that they do not need outsiders to do the same. Wrong!!! It is a narcissist that evades criticism arrogantly; they can get physically violent upon criticism. If you criticize a Virgo boss, be prepared to look out for another job.
^^^this tendency is what has always bothered me about virgos. it's kinda scary to witness. not the anger...haven't seen that in an explosive way but the outright refusal to accept fault or wrongdoing.
this explains what i've been dealing with regarding a virgo man for a long time. and yes, i did see his explosive way....i was on the receiving end of it a handful of times. it was awkward and scary at the same time.
the outright refusal to accept fault or wrongdoing.....this is so damn frustrating. it's ok to rip me apart, but when i question you, OMG, how dare you to suggest that i am not infallible.
honestly, it's easier to just move on from a virgo like this to someone else than try to understand and work with them. it's a lost cause.
Lol this topic was funny but we are not narcissus. We are to antisocial for that witch many astrologers for get to mention.we learn to be social not the other way a round. This was posted by a Pisces astrologer who had to apologize after words lol. But the real reason why we get hated on is because we are smart and we cannot be manipulated emotionally. I have many interest like astrology and when i am really like some thing I try to learn every thing about it. Not to show off but for myself so if you ask me a topic and happen to know a lot about it i will tell you In full detail. A lot people like this they give me compliments i say thank you. But you Wii have haters just waiting for you not to know some thing and the min you don't they are so happy, trying to rub it in your face. I just laugh because i always tell people i don't know every thing its certain things i know.
Posted by virgoking
Lol this topic was funny but we are not narcissus. We are to antisocial for that witch many astrologers for get to mention.we learn to be social not the other way a round. This was posted by a Pisces astrologer who had to apologize after words lol. But the real reason why we get hated on is because we are smart and we cannot be manipulated emotionally. I have many interest like astrology and when i am really like some thing I try to learn every thing about it. Not to show off but for myself so if you ask me a topic and happen to know a lot about it i will tell you In full detail. A lot people like this they give me compliments i say thank you. But you Wii have haters just waiting for you not to know some thing and the min you don't they are so happy, trying to rub it in your face. I just laugh because i always tell people i don't know every thing its certain things i know.
+1
my husband has virgo in his chart, it's the only "earth" and he's very antisocial and hates drama. But his dominant fire makes him easy to get on with extroverts,(he has to, for work as well) just that personal life, he prefers the quiet and the routine. could be too, raised by earth dominant parents. but astrology is interesting.
my father in law is a virgo sun/moon, i can see so much virgo in him, like over the weekend we looked over his travels from other countries on the laptop. Attention to detail, attention to what year, what happened that day, it's just so amazing. It's like having a computer inside his head. better than reading a history book! it's funner. LOL but he wasn't feeling good so it made him too excited showing all those photos, so he had to relax. And his wife took over for him. Not as much detail but it's still good.
Posted by lisabethur8Posted by virgoking
Lol this topic was funny but we are not narcissus. We are to antisocial for that witch many astrologers for get to mention.we learn to be social not the other way a round. This was posted by a Pisces astrologer who had to apologize after words lol. But the real reason why we get hated on is because we are smart and we cannot be manipulated emotionally. I have many interest like astrology and when i am really like some thing I try to learn every thing about it. Not to show off but for myself so if you ask me a topic and happen to know a lot about it i will tell you In full detail. A lot people like this they give me compliments i say thank you. But you Wii have haters just waiting for you not to know some thing and the min you don't they are so happy, trying to rub it in your face. I just laugh because i always tell people i don't know every thing its certain things i know.
+1
my husband has virgo in his chart, it's the only "earth" and he's very antisocial and hates drama. But his dominant fire makes him easy to get on with extroverts,(he has to, for work as well) just that personal life, he prefers the quiet and the routine. could be too, raised by earth dominant parents. but astrology is interesting.
my father in law is a virgo sun/moon, i can see so much virgo in him, like over the weekend we looked over his travels from other countries on the laptop. Attention to detail, attention to what year, what happened that day, it's just so amazing. It's like having a computer inside his head. better than reading a history book! it's funner. LOL but he wasn't feeling good so it made him too excited showing all those photos, so he had to relax. And his wife took over for him. Not as much detail but it's still good.click to expand
that's how i an when I explain this i love history some do call Me a computer lol.
Posted by tubbyscubby
jason, i think it's virgo's achilles heel. every sign has theirs but having witnessed so many of my virgo friends lose close friends due to their either being overly critical OR refusing to accept criticism is sad.
as much as they claim to not care about the loss, they CLEARLY care about it. if the shunned friend comes up in conversation, you're generally met with a litany of "all the things i did for him/her."
if you suggest something as simple as, "why don't you say i'm sorry," the virgo will get mad at you!!! imagine that, merely suggesting an apology can piss a virgo off. and if they don't get pissed, they put on that cold, unemotional, dismissive facade.
in the end, now they're not only mad at the friend they lost but they're mad at another friend for daring to suggest a resolution that involved the virgo admitting wrong doing.
MADNESS!
i think with all of us, whatever our vice is, the first step is recognizing that there's actually an issue. as dr. phil (virgo) says, you can't change what you don't acknowledge.
OMG, this may be old but it's the best damn explanation of my experiences with virgo's who criticize and have lost me as a solid friend because of it.
too bad tubbyscubby isn't on anymore. very good poster.
Ok so here is my situation with this virgo guy...I need advice
Ok we've been dating on and off for 10/11 months. I'm a young successful taurus, him, not so much but I was willing to help him get on his feet so we could build our future together...BIG MISTAKE of me thinking like that...so one day I got on him for not putting effort into finding a full time and not trying....you guys knows virgo he didn't like to be criticize, during the argument he started throwing a lot of ish I told him about in my face. So me being the taurus that I am, I snapped and broke up with him. Furthermore, I cut him off, not talking, texting nothing. Then his mother starts calling me, "just to check up on me" any way after 2 weeks, we started talking, we were intimate blah blah then I asked him where our status was, "he said I don't want to be with you or anybody right now, I want to get my life together" but every time we speak or together we act like we are a couple... He reinterated that he still didn't want to be with me so I cut him off again... His mother starts calling me again.... Fast forward 2 months of me not contacting him. Total misery for me but he didn't know that....so his son which I absolutely adore wanted to see me...I went thru his mother to arrange me seeing his son. He had a problem with that which I get... Because he is the parent so I called him. It was cool so I saw his son. First thing that little boy said to me who is 4 yrs old btw is I want you to see my daddy. I'm like oh great, I don't even know how to respond to that so I brushed it off. So I continue enjoying him and went home. I broke down and ended the not speaking terms. Called my ex, now I'm back to square 1, he still feeling the way he does and he also says it's ok for me to date other people bc he doesn't want me to wait on him. Now I know how long it took me to get my life together, and during that time I had a amazing guy to support and help me to keep focus and I thought I should that to him but it clearly backfired.
What should I do???;(( you guys know virgo very well. All these characteristics I see in him but I do know he could be a potential but if I have to let go. I will
Ok we've been dating on and off for 10/11 months. I'm a young successful taurus, him, not so much but I was willing to help him get on his feet so we could build our future together...BIG MISTAKE of me thinking like that...so one day I got on him for not putting effort into finding a full time and not trying....you guys knows virgo he didn't like to be criticize, during the argument he started throwing a lot of ish I told him about in my face. So me being the taurus that I am, I snapped and broke up with him. Furthermore, I cut him off, not talking, texting nothing. Then his mother starts calling me, "just to check up on me" any way after 2 weeks, we started talking, we were intimate blah blah then I asked him where our status was, "he said I don't want to be with you or anybody right now, I want to get my life together" but every time we speak or together we act like we are a couple... He reinterated that he still didn't want to be with me so I cut him off again... His mother starts calling me again.... Fast forward 2 months of me not contacting him. Total misery for me but he didn't know that....so his son which I absolutely adore wanted to see me...I went thru his mother to arrange me seeing his son. He had a problem with that which I get... Because he is the parent so I called him. It was cool so I saw his son. First thing that little boy said to me who is 4 yrs old btw is I want you to see my daddy. I'm like oh great, I don't even know how to respond to that so I brushed it off. So I continue enjoying him and went home. I broke down and ended the not speaking terms. Called my ex, now I'm back to square 1, he still feeling the way he does and he also says it's ok for me to date other people bc he doesn't want me to wait on him. Now I know how long it took me to get my life together, and during that time I had a amazing guy to support and help me to keep focus and I thought I should that to him but it clearly backfired.
What should I do???;(( you guys know virgo very well. All these characteristics I see in him but I do know he could be a potential but if I have to let go. I will
I am a virgo female.
I was mildly offended by this article. The undertone of bias is clear and the writer does not site any credible references. For every negative point I could easily find an article to refute it.
There is nothing matter of fact about this article - it seems to be nothing more than an opinion.
I believe that narcissism may be the dark side of virgo. Every sign has a dark side that manifests itself in different degrees (or not at all) - for example, a healthy cap is very loving, fatherly/motherly and loyal but the dark side of cap is that they can be promiscuous, sabotage happy relationships and have an addiction to longing. (FYI this cap info was written by a psychologist not a blogger) An example of unhealthy cap: tiger woods. But there are lots of good caps out there. My best friend is one of them.
As a virgo I can be self centered sometimes because I find that I let my problems consume me.. But I also really feel for others, even strangers, but especially loved ones. Their problems are my problems and I'm affected by their pain and want to help always.
Also I can accept criticism because I'm my own worst critic. Every time I mess up I'm so hard on myself and do everything I can to improve, grow, learn, never make that mistake ever ever ever again. Virgo's problem is more that we have a fragile ego. We may not be able to ADMIT we are wrong but deep down we are so hard on ourselves about it. Rest assured we analyzed it, learned from it, beat ourselves up about it and vowed to never make that mistake again.
This article offers a one sided opinion about the dark side, not the whole side, of virgo and I don't agree with a large portion of it.
My two virgo cents
I was mildly offended by this article. The undertone of bias is clear and the writer does not site any credible references. For every negative point I could easily find an article to refute it.
There is nothing matter of fact about this article - it seems to be nothing more than an opinion.
I believe that narcissism may be the dark side of virgo. Every sign has a dark side that manifests itself in different degrees (or not at all) - for example, a healthy cap is very loving, fatherly/motherly and loyal but the dark side of cap is that they can be promiscuous, sabotage happy relationships and have an addiction to longing. (FYI this cap info was written by a psychologist not a blogger) An example of unhealthy cap: tiger woods. But there are lots of good caps out there. My best friend is one of them.
As a virgo I can be self centered sometimes because I find that I let my problems consume me.. But I also really feel for others, even strangers, but especially loved ones. Their problems are my problems and I'm affected by their pain and want to help always.
Also I can accept criticism because I'm my own worst critic. Every time I mess up I'm so hard on myself and do everything I can to improve, grow, learn, never make that mistake ever ever ever again. Virgo's problem is more that we have a fragile ego. We may not be able to ADMIT we are wrong but deep down we are so hard on ourselves about it. Rest assured we analyzed it, learned from it, beat ourselves up about it and vowed to never make that mistake again.
This article offers a one sided opinion about the dark side, not the whole side, of virgo and I don't agree with a large portion of it.
My two virgo cents
As a Virgo I was offended...but only because its slightly true. I think my Aquarius moon keeps me from herd mentality but it makes me EXTRA Anti-social...well more detached because I enjoy socializing but don't get too close to me.
As far as being a narcissists a bit. I can say sorry but its like pulling teeth...its a very painful experience for me. And I'm Sorry only comes out if I truly feel or know I was wrong. If I feel an inkling of I'm Right then that sorry is hard to get, but even in those situations I will come back and say sorry...just not right away it may be hours or days later.
As far as being a narcissists a bit. I can say sorry but its like pulling teeth...its a very painful experience for me. And I'm Sorry only comes out if I truly feel or know I was wrong. If I feel an inkling of I'm Right then that sorry is hard to get, but even in those situations I will come back and say sorry...just not right away it may be hours or days later.
Posted by SevenKisses
As a Virgo I was offended...but only because its slightly true. I think my Aquarius moon keeps me from herd mentality but it makes me EXTRA Anti-social...well more detached because I enjoy socializing but don't get too close to me.
As far as being a narcissists a bit. I can say sorry but its like pulling teeth...its a very painful experience for me. And I'm Sorry only comes out if I truly feel or know I was wrong. If I feel an inkling of I'm Right then that sorry is hard to get, but even in those situations I will come back and say sorry...just not right away it may be hours or days later.
LOL Yep. You get it. Total Virgo gets "it". Socializing/social network with like-minds, but ewww. I don't like people in real life, except for a select few. Unless it's with the very few I love. Though, the IRONY is that i love learning about history, people /relationships, ect and that's why via books, tv, movies, ect.
Posted by CluelessCancerPosted by SevenKisses
As a Virgo I was offended...but only because its slightly true. I think my Aquarius moon keeps me from herd mentality but it makes me EXTRA Anti-social...well more detached because I enjoy socializing but don't get too close to me.
As far as being a narcissists a bit. I can say sorry but its like pulling teeth...its a very painful experience for me. And I'm Sorry only comes out if I truly feel or know I was wrong. If I feel an inkling of I'm Right then that sorry is hard to get, but even in those situations I will come back and say sorry...just not right away it may be hours or days later.
so what happens when a person touches you? gives you a hug? do you make this face?
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LOL more like Wtf is wrong with you? get the hell away or i'll call the cops. Naw, the virgos I know in real life are very touchy feely, BUT only with those they love.
Posted by UnenthusiasticKid
Nah bro. Virgo is a good sign and other signs trying to dicredit us and make us look bad because we're perfect and they are the one who can't stand the truth because we're always right lol
Hahahaha!
I'm not offended by this article. I find a lot of valid points. I guess the writer was pissed at us for whatever reason...Only 3 people tell the truth, drunk people, kids, & people who are mad. Hahahaha...
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