VIRGOS BECOME LEOS

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Never! Please don't become a Leo. I like the way you guys are.
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Yes, but there is another zodiac, and dyrstr8z, and on it, I am a LEO. you understand me to operate on a passion, and a feeling of inspiration; not just a drive towards the work ethic; despite the fact that I am a teen, as a Virgo, I'd be really withdrawn, and shy;I seem to be at odds with other Virgos, and feel that perhaps I am not one; I did some research and realized that the sun is now PHYSICALLY in leo from August 10-September 15; I was born on the sixth of September, and It could explain my arrogance, and explosive outbursts; IF there were a VIRGUY in me to embrace, I WOULD; but for me there has to be pride in it.....that is not a sign of pride, and feeling, and perhaps it is not my TRUE calling dyrstr8z.....I HAVE FEELING, AND FIRE IN ME, AND VIRGO....just dosen't if you can reason to me the Virgo in me; try, but I don't think it is there; I am not trying to be ANYTHING I am not; who has time to be fake? and as a LEO I HATE FAKE, AND SUPERFICIALITY....I am not too practical either dy, I dunno, maybe i'm a lion in that i get along with them better....
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I don't like the boring things in life, and hate routine....I need spice, and Virgos seem to look at me like I've got five heads or somethin'.....maybe there is no such thing in 'new' virgos; maybe I am just a leo....the sidreal zodiac reasons that, and it explains this fiery nature in me; even if it was owed to another planet in my chart, it wouldn't be the general part of my personality.....agression is apart of my sun when I am displeased; that is me, and perhaps, I WAS THE ONE WHOM HAD IT WRONG...SORRY TO HURT YOU VIRGOS....I AM NOT ONE OF YOU, AND UNDERSTAND THIS.
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I don't think a Virgo is bad AT ALL!!!! IT IS ONE OF THE GREATEST SIGNS....I am just saying I am probably not one of you all, and I apologize for that....I have a tendancy to get all idealistic and want to be the founding leader, and change things....leo dy; I want to be a leader, not just a cog in a machine; to call me just a busy bee; well it hurts my pride.....
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I need to get a feeling of inner importance, and this isn't a drive for Virgo; they give because they are considered to be the servants of the zodiac, and don't really dwell on the need to shine; and for me.... THAT IS RIGHT WHERE IT STOPS; I need to feel inwardly important, and feelings to me are TRULY IMPORTANT, AND I AM A ROMANTIC; I DREAM OF THE LOVE THAT WILL ALLOW ME TO BURN WITH INTENSITY....I bet you figured I am pretty durn intense....that is leo, NOTHING ELSE....I can't be something I am not, or feel does me an injustice; everything Virgos are I seem to be the toxin to.....I say I love freedom, and don't care to live my life chocked full of responsibility, and routines...that would be death to me....I am a lion dy, that's just it....I am not the Virgin, my behavior has never been like you all; I am like the virus, and you all the cure; you blend, and I just don't....I stand out, and that is how I've always liked it...let's put age aside here and focus on the signs; Virgo like a life full of routine, and I like to be excited, and surprised, and have an energetic powerful, purpose-filled existence; to live in the mudane, and ground isn't me at all.....I've always been at odds with people of Virgo; I am a september-born leo...
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I'm not saying Virgo is boring either!! HELL FARRRR FROM IT!!!!!. They just work, to work and are fine with it; I need inspiration, and drive;I have nothing Virgoan in me upon looking internally; I am proud, expressive, honest/blunt, fiery, intense ect.....I just, weell I know my true calling.....Leo.
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There's something I want to ask you, without you getting uptight . . ok?
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He's not answering, should I just shoot my question out?
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Alright, I'll just shoot . . .
Many things above and in other threads you've said, but, I'll just pull this down for the question:
"I need inspiration, and drive;I have nothing Virgoan in me upon looking internally; I am proud, expressive, honest/blunt, fiery, intense ect.....I just, weell I know my true calling.....Leo."
Loud and clear it is acknowledged that you relate to your Leo side and that's great, but, I'm NOT clear on WHY you think that Virgo's aren't:
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ok, so expressiveness is more leaning toward the lion, however it's selective, not unpresent
VE, now, I'm not FAULTING you, or, saying it's wrong to feel a certain way . . I'm simply asking WHY do you feel appalled to be a Virgo and their traits?
Most of what you say in posts, you describe traits that are Virgonian and some of those traits are Leo, too, some are seperate. And though, you relate to the Leo side of you, and that's a wonderful thing to feel . . . there are the Virgo sides, also.
Accepting Virgo qualities is a horrible thing to you, and I just want to know . . WHY?
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There's a lot to be said of the influence of other planets in you chart as well as cusps which tend to be brushed aside or ignored completely.
I'm a Virgo born directly on the Leo cusp for the year I was born(8/24/75) so I may have more "fiery" and direct emotions and actions than a virgo born further into the sun sign *but* even if you are on the cusp you still show traits of the sign you were born in (whether you like it or not Winking).
For example: If VE was truly a Leo, he would not have analyzed nor criticized the definition of being a Virgo vs. Leo to the depths that he has. Sure he may be showing some "Leonic" pride and tenacity, but that deep analysis and ability to gather, process, and assimilate such information to back his arguments is *very* Virgo in essence.
Also, if I've read correctly, Virgo(being a mutable sign) tends to be more adaptive and changing which probably allows it to be more influenced by the other signs in the chart as well as whatever sign they are on the cusp on, if any.
Sorry if I repeated anything that was already said, I've been up since 5am. lol
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Well P, in your stating, virgos aren't any of those things; remember the Virgos sting board? that was one example, also you questioned my authenticity as far as being a Virgo; hey, from your mouth to my ears!! lol!!....Anyway, I am not appalled, that's a pretty strong word that I didn't say; Being a Virgo WOULD be cool, except that is simply NOT me...I am expressive, and virgo retentive; everything a Virgo would thrive on, just drives me up a wall!!;I promise you p, there is no struggle in me; I need to express myself, and lead lol!! P, I also recall a very famous quote from hamlet; "to thine onself be true," I just am not virgoan, and I am a 'seeker' sadly of power, and posistion, becuase of my 'expansive nature' I have HUGE dreams, and a virgo is just too dern practical for that; they don't get caught up in dreams, and prefer what IS to what could be...First I was tyranized for being 'different', now you want to believe in that part of me? acussed of NOT being Virgo, now am being questioned about, not being these things....Bottom line, I am not a follower, and I want to share my thoughts, and feelings with the world, becuase I have big dreams p, like I said before, Virgo, just dosen't have time for dreaming.....I mean who am I to tell a Virgo, who he/she is? I thought that I was a Virgo, but p, I AM WRONG, I am not a Virgo that's all. Virgos are great, yet I myself have been in many confrontations stating and defining Virgo; not my space/square to call.....I know that now p.
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Well IF we are speaking of me than I must tell ya; on the sidreal, my mercury is ruled in Virgo; and my mars is in aries, on the tropical and I am quite energetic, and TOO much of a big kid myself; but you can dispute this if you guys like, but 9 otta 10, I am on FIRE, and Leo just has me a little more than Virgo; I explode, and feel things before, I size them up, and P knows, "I bite off a little more than I can chew," lol!! FISH ARE WORTHY ADVERSARIES!!; on the sidreal, my ascendant is in sag, but merc. in Virgo, so this could give way to criticsms, and deep analyzings; I don't care to live a life on earth as I am not very worldly; I guess I am a BAD Virgo; or am 'different' I do like arguing, but I'd rather bring a new way; a different way of looking into, or at things; they say saggy's do this 'deep thinking' as well; they think on the future, and want to make way for new possibilities, and are quite optimistic; A virgo, from what I hear is not like that, in that they tend to hold onto the present, and don't think so far ahead; all in all, it really just depends on which zodiac you use to interpret a person; anyone could be used, to argue me and my quirks/traits, I just think I am not a very uptight, person; If given the chance to be silly, or grab the spot-light or a new oprotunity, I JUMP!! I am also not a perfectionist; I think I want the best of things, and work hard, but I play hard too; I am also more out going in my way, AND my moon is in cancer making me 'theoretically' more 'reserved' and 'shy' I'd actually prefer to get out, and talk to people to gain knowledge, and learn; I think meeting these people will help me to find out the riddle to life; "why am i here?" "what seperates me, and makes me worthy of being here on earth, and life?" a Virgo wouldn't care (just my guess) to entertain such rediculous feelings, and musings; I have a pretty haghty attitude, and tend to think of myself a little TOO highly, and am stubborn to NO END.....Also p would probably agree on this, and this seperates my from Virgo ENTIRELY; I take things personally, and a Virgo dosen't and Branh, has voiced this as well; I mean I found that I am a leo, and am VERY motivated by my feelings, and my ego, and my pride; a Virgo, isn't about pride, and strings chewed me out about that one too; see, I just am not that...I can't be something I am not.
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Thanks dyrstr8z that was single-handedly the nicest thing anyones said to me....I'm actually pretty shocked people can be so nice, yet...aw wow...; but my PRIDE dosen't want help; I've always had trouble acepting things from people, without being able to give back, or FIRST; I am a proud person who can't always accept these things from people even though they could be good for me, becuase I'd like to think that I have it all together; I just don't like looking like a 'weakling, or whelp' I am a person whom can command quite easily, rather than just fall into the ranks; I don't like people commanding me, or placing me below them, I must be on top, and in control saddly.... and I dig my freedom, where as a Virgo, would just find that 'foolish' they are more earthy, and I more 'up there'.....if you guys crunch the numbers, well, you'll smell the kitty-litter box....
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Also, I can be quite bossy, and have a need to sorta....dominate...can't help it; MY DAD TELLS ME ALLLLLL THE TIME!! LOL!!. I don't like being passive, and enjoy 'going out to get it' if ya catch my drift; I think I know why me, and my aquarian friends get on so good....I am the opposite; I explode, and they are usually more calm in behavior; I am what Virgo is to Pisces; I GUESS....I've been called 'Virgo' and don't seem to get on to well with the fish...oh, well guess it's the fire, I can't deny what I know to be true in me personally; a Virgo, dosen't take too much to heart as I do; hmmm....I don't know, as far as what Virgo is, I just don't match it; dramatic, outgoing, leading, expansive, stubborn, loving, and passionate in feeling; what about that speaks 'virgo'?.
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Thanks for explaining why you feel the way you do. There is some things in you that I see that look like the Lion.
I've searched for that chart and I can't find sites that will do it for free. I'm still looking though, so I can see where my planets are in that diffrent zodiac (Indian Astrology).
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O.K. by me P, tell me; when were ya born? I have the sight book marked, and I could help with that possibly; truth be told I was kinda mad YOU weren't taking things personally, lol!!.
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Hi VE,
I love your energy! So much of it Tongue
Well, one theory I heard was that virgo have traits of both leos and cancers.
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Me?
VE, rarely do I take things personal. I'm the first one to jump out there and state something . . . but, I dont' take anything to heart. Well, I take that back, there are some issues, like child abuse and such that I might respond from feeling. But, for the most part, I'm probably Virgo in my critquing than you . . . . lol
I was born in the DC area on 3/18/59
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Yes, I could entertain that theory Cappysweetie in that they can be reserved like the crab, yet be capable of GREAT SPITFIRE, AND DRAMATICS; btw, HIYA!!! LOL!!
*sends outrageously huge smooch cappys way*
and that's what I am saying about the energy thing; according to the sun, in by definition is the sort of 'container' of the person, and how they behave inner to outer (their expression) mine is very leonine, in that pride, and passion are huge with me; how many Virguys ya know (with moon in cancer) to be this direct, or expressive to say the least?!....My energy is apart of my personality, my expression and my comfort; I need to have confidence, but have no need to blare it like most; a leo KNOWS they have confidence and a evolved one, would just know that, and have no need to blare their gifts; I am among that type, BUT fall victim to vanity, and my gifts.....I tend to get cocky as well lol!! I know this is me, and I am fine with it; however, it's getting the rest of the world used to it; I mean to tell a lion to CHANGE?! Wow...that's pride-blowing; a leo is so proud in themselves you might even catch them snickering to themselves how good they feel about themselves! lol!! Who am I to 'categorize' a sign? I am not a person who does that; that is for the Virgos; I'd prefer to LIVE&LOVE not analyze everything to atomic bits and particles....there ain't enough time in the world for it, and I really can't stand details, and you could probably tell that from the posts I made; some times, I'd just like to make my point short-and-sweet; details annoy me, and a Virgo has a never ending ease to focus on them.....not I.
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I'll approach any topic from any angle . . soft, harsh . . with no regards to feelings.
Can't say I've ever met another Pisces who can do that. Most are way too sensitive. I can debate hours on end, and get heated on the topic and never take it personally, never get my feelings hurt.
Methinks this fish is male on the inside . . .lol
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lol, yes P, I see; Although, I am curious; are you intrested in critqing me?....Aw, p thanks....you take intrest in me; thanks; here's you data. Aw Crap p!! I FORGOT SOMETHIN'!! YOU GOTTA TELL ME YOUR BIRTHTIME!!! sorry.....
*saddly frowns away*
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no problem . . exactly at 1:52 PM
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"are you intrested in critqing me?"
Yes . . and everybody else in the world, also.
I have to dig and prod . . nothing is what it seems. There is always an underlying motive, or suggestion. Looks are decieving, words mean nothing since most people have forked tongues . . most of the time, it's what people don't say that is the moral to the story.
Yes, I want to critique you, myself, the whole world.
And you wanna know why?
Because people don't speak the truth about how they really feel. Whatever happens in our daily lives at home, work, school, socially . . they normally just react from the situation at hand. Their opinions and views change with each new person who walks through their door. If we're angry, sad, frightened, irritated, horny, lonely, excited, any and every emotion . . we will respond and react as each emotion surfaces, constantly changing our judgements.
Nothing wrong with that . . it's part of personal growth . . but, most people never fully comprehend what they really feel, what they really need, what they really mean when they say or do something from a reaction that's only living in the moment.
It's through stripping away the superficial bullshit and gettting down the nitty-gritty in which you find the real truth of what someone is thinking. There's only way to do that . . and that is by pushing someone up against the wall.
Haven't you ever noticed that it's when your so mad steam is practically coming out of your ears, that your true feelings come out? Maybe at the moment they won't and you may take a stance in defense that is at oppostion, even if you know you're wrong, just because it's in our nature to defend our dignity. But, later, you ponder and chew what you said, what the other person said . . and that is our growth.
Growth isn't in acheivements, it's in errors and mistakes. It's when we feel bad ourselves that we have the desire to rise up and be proud again.
Yes, everybody I want to critique, I want them to peel away the outside layer that is their to protect their ego and see, feel and say what's on the inside, what's the real truth. What really motived them to do what they did? Was it their feelings, or something that is expected of them? Are they just hurt and now wanting to have some pampering to their pride? Did they cause their own pain? Could it have been avoided if they looked at WHY they did what they did?
Yes, I want to critique you, and I want to do me, sometimes,
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yeah? You a guy?! NO WAY!! Just a pretty focused fish I'd say; although the way you said that 'no regards to feeling' wow...that smarts p!! lol!! funny you talk about debating though my friend BigD56 and I, go toe-to-toe as well every night!! It's fun seeing how you 'match up' against the other when it comes to debating a side; I just have to tone it down a notch or two, but I think I am the cuttest lil dickens ever!! lol!!....anyway heres your data on both charts:
Rising Sign is in 06 Degrees Leo
You love to be the center of attention and you want to appear strong, confident and dominant. You are very proud of yourself, sometimes quite vain even. When all around you are bedraggled and falling apart, you look like a million bucks! Very dignified and honorable, you enjoy the power and privilege, but not the responsibilities, that come with leadership. You are very idealistic but can also be quite stubborn. Others impress you only if they have integrity (but wealth, power and influence can also turn your head). You prefer rich, elegant surroundings and possessions, and will try to acquire them as your budget allows. Physically, you are very impressive - - at your best you have a regal, charismatic demeanor and bearing. Try not to be such a showoff!
Sun is in 27 Degrees Pisces.
Extremely sensitive and emotional, you absorb the emotions of others (whether positive or negative) like a sponge. Emotionally vulnerable, you are easily upset and tend to cry readily. You are at your best when you can structure your environment in such a way that you are surrounded by positive, upbeat people. You are very helpful and understanding of the needs of others. Indeed, at times this can be a disadvantage, because you can be a sucker for anyone who needs help. Shy, dreamy, romantic in nature, you delight in retreating into your private fantasy world. Just be careful that you do not get lost in it! Trust your intuitions -- you may be quite psychic.
Moon is in 10 Degrees Cancer.
For the most part, you are very strong and secure emotionally. You intuitively know what to do to make others feel comfortable, loved, accepted and needed. You naturally enjoy feeding and taking care of others. Be careful that your mothering does not turn into smothering. At times, you tend to feel that those to whom you are attached can never do anything without your assistance and support. Extremely sensitive by
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nature, it hurts you deeply whenever anyone criticizes you. You have an almost desperate need to be loved and wanted and needed by everyone with whom you come into contact, and you go out of your way to be accommodating to them.
Mercury is in 12 Degrees Aries.
Very quick-witted, you are known for being an independent thinker. You love to debate and argue, and are excellent at repartee and battles of wits. At times, however, you act too fast on hastily formed opinions and thus waste a lot of energy defending your rash and sometimes incorrect conclusions. It is perfectly acceptable for you to defend your beliefs with your usual vigor, but try not to take the opinions of others as personal insults.
Venus is in 27 Degrees Aries.
You are a very affectionate person but you hate to be tied down. You are more than willing to be the aggressor in initiating new relationships. Indeed, once you have set your sights on someone, you tend to pursue him or her ardently and passionately. But you do demand your own way in a relationship. Try to give in to your partner's needs and desires once in a while.
Mars is in 17 Degrees Gemini.
Your energies get turned on quickly whenever anything interests you. But you have a very short attention span and it is difficult for you to complete tasks because something else more interesting always seems to be beckoning. You love to debate and argue, usually in a spirit of friendly disagreement. But watch out that you do not get too overly aggressive or antagonistic or others will be quick to take offense where none may have really been intended. You need to be in constant physical motion -- sports or daily exercise is a must for you if you are to feel fit and healthy.
Jupiter is in 01 Degrees Sagittarius.
You have a very strong sense of ethics and morality. You are widely read and may also be widely traveled because you are sincerely interested in expanding your knowledge of the world about you. At times, you have an annoying tendency to be self-righteous and preachy about your belief system. You are usually quite idealistic and you demand the right to be able to explore the entire world of experiences yourself. Remember to grant others the similar right -- be tolerant, not dogmatic.
Saturn is in 06 Degrees Capricorn.
Very serious-minded and mature, you have the ability to take on responsibilities and to carry out important duties. You can also be trusted to be extremely practical and thrifty. A good organize
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My fault P; It took longer than I thought it would; If ya wanna know your sidreal I have that as well. But for a moment I must ask you a bit of questions;
P-Angel:Because people don't speak the truth about how they really feel. Whatever happens in our daily lives at home, work, school, socially . . they normally just react from the situation at hand. Their opinions and views change with each new person who walks through their door. If we're angry, sad, frightened, irritated, horny, lonely, excited, any and every emotion . . we will respond and react as each emotion surfaces, constantly changing our judgements.
P, What can I do to show you that I speak is what I really feel? Screw the world right now; you see speaking on the computer adds anomnimity, and shows a lack of feeling, but I have feelings; I don't know what type of people you've been dealing with over the course of your life, but I am not fork-tongued, and hate that with a passion; and besides I have no problem answering any question you have of me; why lie? I don't have the time to cover my tracks and lie to you by confabulating a story....foolish really, if you stop and think on it, I am the honest type even if I do feel a range of feelings you seem to be rather detached, how come? I'm just wondering....; and also p, some people do change based on emotional surfaces alone; that's who they are; people exist like that it is true unfortuneately, but that defeats the 'getting to know you' process; if you just judge people so black and white and and disregaurd them becuase they are that way you miss what they have to offer you; my father for example is like this and he is a Scorp; theoretically he should feel deeply, and powerfully, yet behaves like a libran generally by blowing air over emotions; and he just wants to be around people, I only like to be around people to get something outta them knowledge, feelings,ect; not going to lie about that, and perhaps they'll get something outta me as well so that we both benefit; you don't EVER have to push a person up against a wall; TRUST ME, I'VE TRIED IT; SOMETIMES, PEOPLE COME OUT WITH DIFFERENT INTENTIONS THAN YOURS IN THAT YOU WANT THE TRUTH AND THEY COME OUT SLY; and for that matter if you push a person, what's to stop them from lieing? I mean that's kold p.....That HONESTLY hurts to hear you say that....I am sorry, just being me ya know? Look, If someone show me who they are, I will believe them and tend to question them, but if I feel you are
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'lying' or being fake; I will be weary; but then, why fool around with people like that? can't trust someone so secretive.....and P, people are going to protect themselves, even you yourself have an ego layer designed to protect your OWN hide; you seem to forget that; you pose all these questions but forgot to turn inward; why do I do these things? what drives me to do what I do? you might find the answer; but even still, say you DID get those answers out of a person, what then? they are open now, then what? P, actually I USED to act that way, you describe, and that got me into trouble....I don't fool around with people prodding and poking; some people don't always want to open the doors you want to, and come out fighting...people behave the way they do out of personal experience, and the need to remain safe even though they have the ability and propensity to come forth; I go into a situation knowing that, and don't expect people to be honest; I am though, and don't care if you aren't straight-up with me becuase I did my part, and if you are GROWN ENOUGH, you may reciprocate but I don't get to mad about that....That thing you said about prodding....creepy p, it sounds like you're using people for some type of psych, experiment.....It just sounded cold, not you as a person; well this is also what you SAY but to know what YOU'D DO...well, I'd have to see you interact; I don't like just typing about things like this, I'd rather speak on human interaction while around others; I can't say I haven't been there, just that Typing is so tedious, and I'd rather speak it....just know that I am not one of those people, if you want to know just ask....diging and prodding....it almost seems an invasion of personal boundaries, and a little callous to human feelings, and insensitive; If a person dosen't want to come forward, why bother with them p? Don't waste your time trying to change people; we are placed on earth to LIVE NOT ANALYZE; TO EXPERIENCE, NOT PROD; sometimes you have to let go of critiquing.... I mean if you want to know anything at all; JUST ASK!! lol!!.
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I'll ask a person something, and believe them, 'if I have nothing to test them with' I will believe them. I don't blame you for questioning people p, you are human after all, and with a world like today, it's hard to believe people. But what if a person isn't ready to be 'peeled back' are you ready for someone to peel back you ego, and cut thru to your sub-conscious, and unconscious? to un-earth you COMPLETELY?.Then if that is the case p, I see no need in people to lie, or for there to be an 'unconsious' at all....even if you don't lie EXTERNALLY, you are denied the 'TRUTH' from even yourself, becuase you cannot acess this part of yourself, and if you did, you wouldn't need this private, personal domain anyway; you'd be able to acess it at will.Sometimes people don't always know what goes on inside themselves and at least atempt at honesty...even though they aren't perfect p; as long as people try, why should/could I 'Critique' them? they aren't mine, and I am not them; I just need to focus on me, and do my best; some people lack the strength YOU PRESENT P, I mean, what if you were a subject to your own thoughts by another?....I don't need to know a persons drive or aim as to why they did a specific thing or thought a specific thought; all that matters is that in reality, in the here, and now, THEY DID IT; but now, let's just focus on trying to fix that in the future; people are people p, and do crazy things; that is just people for you!! lol!!
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P, I'm just better at interpretting my feelings/thoughts verbally, not on pad/pencil; I am just not saying what I want ya know....I just wish somehow we could speak about this.....you really are worthy opponent/friend; I really enjoy this.... I just wish it so but....well that's life; I'd prefer to sit down with you, or others AWAY from the anamnimity of the computer; to see, and experience the person; I can't experience you through a computer which re-inforces my feelings of never knowing me; sure I can present one side to myself, over the computer, but there are others P in response to the situation that is just human expression; It seems to me you 'pick at' the human expression device, the ego; a person can only respond to one thing at one time you know; I guess I am trying to say that I am not a HABITUAL LIAR and can only respond as deeply to the question posed against me p.
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I guess P, I have a bit more living to do; I just hope I can TALK with you about these things; you are wise, and I CRAVE THE OPRUNTUNITY (cripes I STILL forget how to spell that word!! lol!!) TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS!! THIS IS SO DAMNED EXCITING YA KNOW!?!?.I just well, this chance is so great...I wanna talk to you so much, you just wow...you dumbfound,surprise,confound, and have amazed me p. I hope one day I can do the same....
*turns head toward the blue yonder, and closes eyes, and feels earth around self*
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I can't focus on all these words p, too many on the screen ya know? I can respond better face-to-face ya know?.
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P, also I DO exhibit my sidreal rising sign, Saggittarius a little more than my Capricorn counterpart; I am EXTREMELY expansive, and do the exact OPPOSITE of Virgo in thinking; I EXPAND, AND ENLARGE; for example; I am entering a new job; all I tend to think about is the positivity, and it makes me all the more eager to jump in; I've always been the reckless type you see, and always thinking about the possibilities, and outcomes rather than the negatives, or mis-haps; and mis-haps ALWAYS happen!! But I usually face each mis-hap with a smile, and a huge laugh as if nothing really gets to me; I am very FREEDOM-LOVING, and always have big ideas, and dreams; these are huge parts of my personality, P as I have ALWAYS been this huge dreamer, and always share my visions, and dreams with people. I am quite idealistic as well; in school when a new kid arives, I'm THE WELCOME WAGON!! LOL!! I can't help but wanting to get to know everything about them and wanting to be their friend!! NEW PEOPLE ARE EXCITING P!! So much they can teach, or learn, or give; I like to look at things from a different point of view to grasp every angle, and try not to get to stubborn, but hey it happens...
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proud
honest
blunt
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I admit it. but you forgot humorous, passionate, exotic, and just dang different.
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Leo
Leo is a fire sign known for being generous, courageous and magnanimous.
Unfortunately, Leo has a negative reputation for being proud, arrogant, bossy and self-centered. It's true; a wounded Leo tends to posture with exaggerated bravado. But these negative qualities are really protective devices, designed to mask the Leonine shadows of self-consciousness and self-doubt. At the soul level, Leo embodies the energy of risk, ruling self-expression, children, romance, creativity and gambling. This willingness to be fully alive is the ultimate gamble, requiring great personal courage. Leo bravely embraces life's uncertainties. That's why Leo craves attention. Feedback acts as a sonar device, helping Leo to define itself. For Leo, input is instrumental in balancing the unbridled expression of self. Shun Leo's efforts to express, and they become brittle and shrill. Or, they simply shut down. Give Leo the support it needs, and you feed a spirit as generous as the Sun, its ruling planet.
I've stated before that I just am unafraid of the dark; when I don't have a passion or something to live for; I feel despondent; I suppose that is why I behave in such a fiery 'outlandish' way foriegn to Virgoan temperments; I suppose I just want you guys to 'tell me something good to boost the leonine ego.....' I have been known to be quite attention-seeking; I hate it when I am not spotlight at times, and continue to work with this; for instance:
while watching, 'So you think you can Dance?' when I saw them on that stage, and it wasn't ME being cheered on, and loved; I HATED THEM ALL.... THEY ALL SHOULD BURN.....I was ignored, and I wasn't the one ignoring.....I felt so naturally better than them.... I have too much inside, and need a way to 'control the flame'.
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P? could you offer 'analysis' lol!! Anyone? I ask p, or anyone whom knows my temperment to deliberate, considering this new data; When is enough ENOUGH?!?! I just want MORE....
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Is it wrong to DESIRE POWER? AND BECOME STRONGER IF ONLY IN YOUR OWN MIND? I wonder....I crave enlightenment, and the 'next level' it'd be nice to know that I was a major contributor to something so renowned!! lol!!
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I don't think it's wrong to want power, but you got to understand, and most people don't want to do this. Virgoexalted, I think this is all to true about you and should be clear to everyone reading this board also...that you like to be the one that's correct AND everyone MUST agree with you, otherwise your pride will feel attacked and as a Leo, you will attack back in a fiery rage. You not wanting to understand (Not saying that you don't, more like you don't want to consider that your theory is wrong) and that your pride affects your whole reaction to things, yes, you are nothing short of the proud Leo...
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It is a wierd phenomenon though, yes the tropical zodiac may just be inaccurate but geez, a Virgo acting as a true Leo?! Wow...but I know this 'situation' isn't just happening to you, Virgoexalted. I know someone here on DXP is going through the same thing, they're just too nervous to post probably because of the 'opinions' they would receive. Me, I'm a proud Aquarius that IS an Aquarius down to a tee, and I couldn't imagine my personality fitting another zodiac! I'll be debating on this just like you!
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I'd like to think of myself as Broad-Minded to 'sensible' suggestions....but I want to expand beyond just limits; I want MORE....I even made a board in caps!! MAYBE I'M WRONG!! LOL!!. I can 'consider' being wrong but just 'flat-out' telling me I'm wrong sets off WARHEADS IN MY BRAIN!! LOL!!
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Anyway, I couldn't imagine myself being SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT....I am proud, and have no need to SCREAM IT....that is overbearing, and stupid; You feel aquarian becuase it is what YOU ARE; what I AM is, and requires a little more depth to search; things aren't as they seem, and I must question every corner, turn over every stone untill I arrive at my destination; LEO.
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these feelings are a compliment to my rising sign, Sagittarius. But BidD56, have I TAUGHT YOU NOTHING? I dosen't matter whether or not YOU THINK your personality can't be fitted into another sign....it could be reasoned if one possess the insight to your personality, and the understanding, (if even limited) to argue you being anything BUT aquarius....It depends on the vantage point in which you argue/stand from, and the ability to expand, and willingness to SEE from a different angle....
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Yeah, I guess you're right about that...I forgot how relentless people on here can get, but even still, everything that is opinionated against you is a sign to you that they don't know anything about you! Like as if they were trying to get personal, but really they just was voicing their opinion. This is a sign that your pride was hurting, and this is why you unleash soo many long paragraphs of entries. It makes you feel better to crush the opposition with tons of points and truths to pummel their pride right back. Now doesn't that sound like a fiery lion to you!
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*roars like a lion shattering all life in sight*
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Alright!! let's talk about my GOOD SIDE!!! LOL!!!
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You see? As expected, you didn't agree with me and my opinions, so you totally smashed them to bits with your own truths, instead of understanding my viewpoint. I hope you know, I too, think that I know a little something about what I say, and agreeing a little bit will help, but I'm not run off of emotion or pride, this is why I understand why you lash out at me like that, and instead of fighting fire with fire, I will calmly help you ease your flaming outbursts with gentle breeses of calm, intellectual conversation LoL!
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Geez you type fast...my entries were out of place...
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I understood you !! I was only trying to be funny!! lol!! Sheesh.... you took me to seriously!! Calm intellectual conversation is just fine, I understood your view point; yes, I could arguably be called a leo but u did state you are a proud aquarius; seems rather flippant if you ask me...
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Let's take it back a sec......To say as a 'human' you don't run off emotions and pride is arguably at least from your own point of view, fleeting at best a dream ya know; if it were true, you'd probably would lack an unconcious domain, and a subcon!! lol!! You would have acess to all levels of conciousness, and have no hidden ill-wills, or deceptions; To say you haven't fallen prey to moments of vanity that aren't necessarily placed over aquarius is crazy-talk....aren't aquarians sometimes selfish too?
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I can say that you stick to your ideals firmly, and that also what you believe in is the full truth, not false or out of pure ignorance like most people I talk to. You are also very caring and attached to true friend's problems...and you are well outspoken. What I also respect you for virgoexalted is that you don't let anything slide. If someone has a problem with you or if you have a problem or misunderstanding with someone you will find them and resolve the problem. I personally hate fake people who act like they like me but really they don't, and you're FAR from that, and it's hard to be that way these days.
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