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Virguy annoyed by Pisces women
The Pisces women I know are sweet-natured, but not nearly as stable as Cancer or Scorpio women - stability in Water Signs being a very relative thing!!
To me, they appear child-like, and I could see myself in a Father / Mentor role with them. I feel an attraction - more spritual than mental - but I'm not compelled to act it the way I am with other women. I think my cautious Virgo side realizes the fundamental differences between us, and prevents me from thinking beyond friendship with them.
Yeah, the ones I know are wishy-washy, and that can be very annoying for us Earth Boys!
branh0913: You know good and well they are just being selectively sensitive.
Yeah, I suspect it sometimes. But... I think that may hold true for Cancer & Scorpio gals, too -- to varying degrees.
I haven't known many Pisces guys, but all of them were furtive & effeminate -- secretly swung both ways.
Sounds to me like you both perpetuate this in each other.
The more emotional she is .. the colder you are.
The colder you are .. the more sarcastic she is.
Perhaps, when she expresses that she knows better than you .. what she is trying to imply is that cold begets cold, warmth begets warmth .. and is merely trying to get you to warm up.
Or, perhaps, she's just fucking with you because she knows she gets under your skin .. which causes you to express such as in this thread.
In any event ... I would suggest that you put energy into what you do like, rather than what you don't like. Though, it's not uncommon for Virgo's to build their thoughts on negative connotations, such as this thread .... it is your reality you are creating for yourself (what you can't stand) .. and so, more people you can't stand will surely enter your life.
The more emotional she is .. the colder you are.
The colder you are .. the more sarcastic she is.
Perhaps, when she expresses that she knows better than you .. what she is trying to imply is that cold begets cold, warmth begets warmth .. and is merely trying to get you to warm up.
Or, perhaps, she's just fucking with you because she knows she gets under your skin .. which causes you to express such as in this thread.
In any event ... I would suggest that you put energy into what you do like, rather than what you don't like. Though, it's not uncommon for Virgo's to build their thoughts on negative connotations, such as this thread .... it is your reality you are creating for yourself (what you can't stand) .. and so, more people you can't stand will surely enter your life.
"can never get any worthwhile conversation out of them."
They are always secretive, they never give any details or elaborate. They are vague and as I mentioned confusing. Communication is one of our main traits, Virgos love to understand and analyse everything. With them, there is nothing to analyse and understanding is difficult thanks to their emotional ways.
"I am the coldest most heartless person I know, and these emotional creatures ARE NOT FOR ME, KEEP THEM AWAY."
Virgos contain themselves, we "hid" emotions. I straight up don't care about things and people mostly. They are opposite...
When they choose to express themselves in detail without taking things the wrong way, we can actually have a decent time. But these instances are far and few between.
Pisces women downright feel they know best and will not hesitate to tell me how WRONG I am and what I NEED to do, which like I said before pisses me off like NOTHING else.
I already know what I like and more importantly who I am and what I can tolerate.
I'm just looking to see if other Virguys have this problem, or if it's just me.
They are always secretive, they never give any details or elaborate. They are vague and as I mentioned confusing. Communication is one of our main traits, Virgos love to understand and analyse everything. With them, there is nothing to analyse and understanding is difficult thanks to their emotional ways.
"I am the coldest most heartless person I know, and these emotional creatures ARE NOT FOR ME, KEEP THEM AWAY."
Virgos contain themselves, we "hid" emotions. I straight up don't care about things and people mostly. They are opposite...
When they choose to express themselves in detail without taking things the wrong way, we can actually have a decent time. But these instances are far and few between.
Pisces women downright feel they know best and will not hesitate to tell me how WRONG I am and what I NEED to do, which like I said before pisses me off like NOTHING else.
I already know what I like and more importantly who I am and what I can tolerate.
I'm just looking to see if other Virguys have this problem, or if it's just me.
Soon, they will come, as planned ... don't worry, you'll see ... because girls love a man that they think needs to be fixed.
My best matches to date have been Scorpios, incidentally.
Evan, I am not complaining. I get along fine with everyone else.
All I want to know is why and how other Virgo males deal with Pisces females.
I have discussed myself and my flaws already.
Evan, I am not complaining. I get along fine with everyone else.
All I want to know is why and how other Virgo males deal with Pisces females.
I have discussed myself and my flaws already.
Virgos work well with Capricorn, Taurus, Cancer and Scorpio.
Pisces and other Virgos are variable, meaning 50-50
I seem to always get the bad 50 with Pisces
Pisces and other Virgos are variable, meaning 50-50
I seem to always get the bad 50 with Pisces
Haha virgogotme!
Pisces are clingy, they don't listen!
Pisces are clingy, they don't listen!
I don't complain, honestly...
I'm just trying to find out how others deal with our opposites
I'm just trying to find out how others deal with our opposites
whoa ... someones upset!
Typical Pisces female looking to piss me off.
Can't be avoided really.
Can't be avoided really.
CS: I feel similarly about Pisces people, men and women. I have a Pisces cousin, who I avoid any serious conversation with. I walk on eggshells because I think she may take something I say wrong and secretly hate me while pretending to be nice to me. I don't trust her one bit. She only reveals partial details when she is describing something that occured, usually making herself out to be the victim or the innocent person. I also worked for a Pisces....THE WORST EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE....wishy washy lying selfish greedy secretly envious of others, the worst personality and characteristics of all humans compiled into one person. We Virgos can SAY WHAT WE MEAN AND MEAN WHAT WE SAY. But we do not want to hurt anyone. Pisces on the other hand.....it seems as if they get off on watching others suffer....the worst human characteristics on earth....PISCES...STAY AWAY FROM PISCES....THEY ARE NEVER WHAT THEY SEEM. THEY NEVER REVEAL THEIR TRUE SELVES UNTIL THEY ARE READY TO BITE....STAY AWAY. SHARKS!
Actually Sarah Palin was born on February 11 which makes her an Aquarius....very capable of biting someone's head off...very stubborn and determined personality....right, wrong, or otherwise.
Wow, sure took you guys long to back me up here lol
I know this thread is kind of old. I would just like to state clearly the reason why we are the way we are. And I am probably a more LOGICAL pisces than most. I have come a very long way to understanding myself and others. I am still learning. I can converse about anything really and I do pride myself on being very knowledgeable on an array of subjects. I do however, tend to jump subjects like crazy. I think its more like Im talking while Im thinking.
We do tend to be wishy washy because we suck...and I mean SUCK at making decisions that we know are right for ourselves. We know what is right, but our feelings get in the way. I can't describe how annoyed I feel when I can't make a firm decision on certain things, even simple ones. Its a terrible disadvantage. The only thing we are very sure about is when we love. Even then, we are on guard. We fully trust when we know the man has accepted us. We carry scars from past relationships and we never forget the lessons we learned from each encounter.
We are not sharks. We only become sharkish if we feel our chain is being yanked and unfortunately the Virgo behavior gives us a lot of chain yanking feeling. If I understand the concept more of a virgo, I would be more inclined to be more "understanding" towards the situation. However, pisces doesn't understand virgo's need to pull away. They take it as "What did I do wrong? How can I fix it?" When we love, we love hard. We want to empower our mate and when we see they are in trouble, we quickly come in to save them from their own destruction. We honestly only feel we are trying to help. It is always best to say to us "I appreciate your concern. But I think I can handle this myself." That way you get them off your back nicely. Pisces just wants to help and that tends to sound like they are telling you what to do. We do get hurt when you get mad at us. Then we blame ourselves for being foolish and pull away to sulk by ourselves. We do tend to dislike arrogance, but love assertive confidence.
We are also good advice givers, but terrible at taking our own advice. We can figure out everyone else's problems, but our own. We are terrible at admitting truth, but we know its there.
Dont give up on the entire piscean race. We aren't all that bad...just maybe not what you want. Everyone is different in their own way.
We do tend to be wishy washy because we suck...and I mean SUCK at making decisions that we know are right for ourselves. We know what is right, but our feelings get in the way. I can't describe how annoyed I feel when I can't make a firm decision on certain things, even simple ones. Its a terrible disadvantage. The only thing we are very sure about is when we love. Even then, we are on guard. We fully trust when we know the man has accepted us. We carry scars from past relationships and we never forget the lessons we learned from each encounter.
We are not sharks. We only become sharkish if we feel our chain is being yanked and unfortunately the Virgo behavior gives us a lot of chain yanking feeling. If I understand the concept more of a virgo, I would be more inclined to be more "understanding" towards the situation. However, pisces doesn't understand virgo's need to pull away. They take it as "What did I do wrong? How can I fix it?" When we love, we love hard. We want to empower our mate and when we see they are in trouble, we quickly come in to save them from their own destruction. We honestly only feel we are trying to help. It is always best to say to us "I appreciate your concern. But I think I can handle this myself." That way you get them off your back nicely. Pisces just wants to help and that tends to sound like they are telling you what to do. We do get hurt when you get mad at us. Then we blame ourselves for being foolish and pull away to sulk by ourselves. We do tend to dislike arrogance, but love assertive confidence.
We are also good advice givers, but terrible at taking our own advice. We can figure out everyone else's problems, but our own. We are terrible at admitting truth, but we know its there.
Dont give up on the entire piscean race. We aren't all that bad...just maybe not what you want. Everyone is different in their own way.
look, cajun, pisces girl writing here: I wont' enter into it right now, just let me say this: maybe I'm wrong, but you sound too.. angry at pisces women. you seem me when I talk or write about scorpio men. resenment pouring off very pore of it. it is because they hurt me so deep. can you see the equation? just guessing, hon...
Posted by Cajunspirit
My best matches to date have been Scorpios, incidentally.
Evan, I am not complaining. I get along fine with everyone else.
All I want to know is why and how other Virgo males deal with Pisces females.
I have discussed myself and my flaws already.
Absolutely, couldn't have said it better myself. Now I'm dating a Scorpio and it seems like a match made in heaven, like we've known eachother our whole life and other life times as well. Before her though, I thought this Pices I was dating was "the one". She was 8 years older than me, 21/29, yet we has this intense, unsaid spiritual bond, however, when it came down to what was grounded and practical, shit was just awry. She made herself out to wear the pants in the relationship and said she knew me better than I knew myself. Bullshit, it was just a ploy to attempt to seduce me. My scorpio appreciates me for who I am and who I am not, it's way easier to be myself around her and she is far more stable and less wishy-washy. Thank the divine matrix for my scorp who took me away from a sordid cycle of grief.
Posted by theonly764hero
Thank the divine matrix for my scorp who took me away from a sordid cycle of grief.
Happy for ya bud *thumbs up*
Posted by Cajunspirit
I can't stand them.
Always so secretive, can never get any worthwhile conversation out of them.
They always have this "know what is best" attitude and when they talk to me in an authoritative way, it burns me to high hell.
No one tells me what to do, unless they are paying me to do so.
Most of the time they are confusing and take everything the wrong way. Likewise, I can't understand how they feel and what they say is sometimes quite confusing.
I am the coldest most heartless person I know, and these emotional creatures ARE NOT FOR ME, KEEP THEM AWAY.
Oft, I read that we have potential as a couple, nothing could be more far from the truth. We always quarrel, never see eye to eye and I WILL NEVER TOLERATE being told what to do in such a " I know better than you " manner.
Pisces women often have this other side to them, where the sarcasm comes swift and sharp. I dislike criticism and when they mouth off, It stings.
Pisces guys on the other hand are awesome. I get along very well and find sympathising easy. They know their place and don't order me around like a dog.
I'm simply looking to see, how other Virgos get along with our COMPLETE AND TOTAL opposites.
How can you tolerate them (Virgo male to Pisces female) ?
Well, you already know my story. My sister (a capricorn) was actually married to a pisces male. At first he was the sweetest most affectionate man. Everyone thought he was this great stand up guy until we realized that he didn't know a thing about paying bills (they had a condo...which of course equals a mortgage) and really put him and my sister's financial future in huge jeopardy. Anyway, let's just say that he played the victim role to a T when my sister found out that he was hiding all of the mortgage statements in the drawer for months. He lied, never took responsibility for his shortcomings and was VERY emotionally manipulative. Now, don't get me wrong because any man from any sign could behave this way. However, one common thread I do find amongst pisceans is their ability to lie straight in your face, play the victim better than anyone else and use emotional manipulation tactics. He was also very, very lazy and expected her to do all of the work.
Definitely a Fish with ich. Too bad that one wasn't tossed back in the pond, or put out of its misery. In the interest of bettering life for womankind.
Posted by VirgoVixxxenHowever, one common thread I do find amongst pisceans is their ability to lie straight in your face, play the victim better than anyone else and use emotional manipulation tactics. He was also very, very lazy and expected her to do all of the work.
Virgos can lie to your face too, just as well. But yeah, my Pisces pal prides himself on such things.
He has that ridiculous mentality, the woman must never cheat, but it's okay for the man to, because "that's what men do".
I only recently found out Pisces share Jupiter with Sagittarius, so all the infidelity and contradictions makes sense.
Posted by CajunspiritPosted by VirgoVixxxenHowever, one common thread I do find amongst pisceans is their ability to lie straight in your face, play the victim better than anyone else and use emotional manipulation tactics. He was also very, very lazy and expected her to do all of the work.
Virgos can lie to your face too, just as well. But yeah, my Pisces pal prides himself on such things.
He has that ridiculous mentality, the woman must never cheat, but it's okay for the man to, because "that's what men do".
I only recently found out Pisces share Jupiter with Sagittarius, so all the infidelity and contradictions makes sense.click to expand
Sheesh. Talk about double standards.
Posted by domino_O
from my experience, these so called pisces women live in a world that is not based on rational or evidenital thought. it is all feelings.
they end up manipulating things they don't understand or try and get people to feel sorry for themselves because their life is SO hard and it doesn't happen to anyone else and think they should get something out of it or thus they are the only ones intelligent enough to understand a situation like that or they put absolutely thought into it and have any sort of credibility. ._.
they can be good mums tho, not going to lie, just dilusional at times.
or you can be like p-angle and shit post all over the place.
I am in accord.
Pisces make some of the best mums around.
Posted by CajunspiritPosted by VirgoVixxxenHowever, one common thread I do find amongst pisceans is their ability to lie straight in your face, play the victim better than anyone else and use emotional manipulation tactics. He was also very, very lazy and expected her to do all of the work.
Virgos can lie to your face too, just as well. But yeah, my Pisces pal prides himself on such things.
He has that ridiculous mentality, the woman must never cheat, but it's okay for the man to, because "that's what men do".
I only recently found out Pisces share Jupiter with Sagittarius, so all the infidelity and contradictions makes sense.click to expand
Well that makes since now i forgot about them sharing jupiter.
Posted by valeria25Posted by virgokingPosted by CajunspiritPosted by VirgoVixxxenHowever, one common thread I do find amongst pisceans is their ability to lie straight in your face, play the victim better than anyone else and use emotional manipulation tactics. He was also very, very lazy and expected her to do all of the work.
Virgos can lie to your face too, just as well. But yeah, my Pisces pal prides himself on such things.
He has that ridiculous mentality, the woman must never cheat, but it's okay for the man to, because "that's what men do".
I only recently found out Pisces share Jupiter with Sagittarius, so all the infidelity and contradictions makes sense.
Well that makes since now i forgot about them sharing jupiter.
Yeah it's odd how Pisces and Aquarius gets two shared planets. It's not fair. However, while Jupiter & Neptune are with Pisces, Neptune is still their RULING planet:
http://www.starlightastrology.com/pisces-neptune.htm
As with Aqua getting Uranus as their ruling planet, while it was an old fashioned astrology that it was, I think with Saturn, until the discovery of Uranus. Virgo and Gemini should have their own planet, instead of a shared one, or something. Perhaps, a new discovery will reveal something else.click to expand
Well I wouldn't be a virgo if i didn't correct you lol aquarius share the planet of saturn with cap, sag and pisces are the only sign that share Jupiter
Sun rules Leo(day) Moon rules Cancer(night)
Mercury rules Gemini(day) and Virgo(night)
Venus rules Taurus(night) and Libra(day)
Mars rules Aries(day) and Scorpio(night)
Jupiter rules Sagittarius(day) and Pisces(night)
Saturn rules Capricorn(night) and Aquarius(day)
link http://www.librarising.com/astrology/fwa/rulers.html
Mercury rules Gemini(day) and Virgo(night)
Venus rules Taurus(night) and Libra(day)
Mars rules Aries(day) and Scorpio(night)
Jupiter rules Sagittarius(day) and Pisces(night)
Saturn rules Capricorn(night) and Aquarius(day)
link http://www.librarising.com/astrology/fwa/rulers.html
Posted by sdgaf
c'mon dude.. it's a facade..
u r the most emotional virgo on dxp..
That would be quite the title.
Posted by valeria25Posted by sdgafPosted by Cajunspirit
I am the coldest most heartless person I know..
c'mon dude.. it's a facade..
u r the most emotional virgo on dxp..
No way!! not CJHe's the most controlled virgo on dxp
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They get shetz n' giggles out of messing with people, my dear
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Posted by Cajunspirit
I am the coldest most heartless person I know ....
Your people must be so proud of you ... look how far you've come to being everything they ever hoped for.
Posted by seavixen2
Val is right. Pisces gets it's own planet now...and we don't have to share with Sagittarians anymore, cuz they get their own planet too! Don't hate ya'll..Don't hate
http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/sign-rulerships.html
http://www.12astrologyzodiacsigns.com/zodiacsigns/planetsrulesunsigns.shtml
http://www.freehoroscopesastrology.com/planets-signs.aspx
you do know pisces use two planets just like scorpio does with mars and pluto. some sign have an extra planet expect Leo,cancer,virgo,tarus,sag,cap,libra, and gem. Virgo and tarus don't because there planets are not found. Leo and cancer are the only sign that never had two planets.
You would have to understand night time and day time ruler ship to truly understand here is a good site here is one quote
http://www.guidingstar.com/Articles/Rulerships.html
The answer is that a day ruler means rules in a Sun-like way. The day rulers are the essential expressive energy, the current, the life force, the energetic stream/path which that sign follows. The day ruler must be expressing its planet constantly or it feels like it isn't "alive". The day ruler is usually conscious.
A night ruler rules in a Moon-like way. It rules the environment in which the sign finds itself. This ruler is the way the sign responds to its environment and the the way it expects its environment to respond to it. The night ruler is the psychic "skin" of the sign (as in "thin" or "thick" skinned), the filter through which the person responds to the environment. The emotions of the sign act according to this ruler. The night ruler is often subconscious. The sign searches for, or has a goal of, the quality of the night ruler.
You might think of the day ruler winding a snake-like path through the countryside of the night ruler, like a river or road through hilly country. The day ruler is what you are doing while the night ruler is where you are doing it. With the night ruler you try to "find" things in your environment; with the day ruler you try to "make" things happen by imposing your will.
To avoid suspense, the answer to the outer planet rulerships is that Uranus rules Aquarius, Neptune rules Pisces, and Pluto rules Aries in a Solar (day) way and that Uranus rules Capricorn, Neptune rules Sagittarius, and Pluto rules Scorpio in a Lunar (night) way. The way to envision this is that there are two streams: the conscious day stream and the subconscious night stream that spring from the Cancer-Leo cusp and go in their opposite directions.
If the Sun represents the personal identity, then the planets that are progressively further from the Sun in the solar system are progressively further from the individual identity they are progressively broader in space and time. Therefore, the day and night stream start with the personal and spread to the impersonal. You can think of the night stream as progressively deeper in the subconscious while the day stream is progressively broader in conscious expression.
http://www.guidingstar.com/Articles/Rulerships.html
The answer is that a day ruler means rules in a Sun-like way. The day rulers are the essential expressive energy, the current, the life force, the energetic stream/path which that sign follows. The day ruler must be expressing its planet constantly or it feels like it isn't "alive". The day ruler is usually conscious.
A night ruler rules in a Moon-like way. It rules the environment in which the sign finds itself. This ruler is the way the sign responds to its environment and the the way it expects its environment to respond to it. The night ruler is the psychic "skin" of the sign (as in "thin" or "thick" skinned), the filter through which the person responds to the environment. The emotions of the sign act according to this ruler. The night ruler is often subconscious. The sign searches for, or has a goal of, the quality of the night ruler.
You might think of the day ruler winding a snake-like path through the countryside of the night ruler, like a river or road through hilly country. The day ruler is what you are doing while the night ruler is where you are doing it. With the night ruler you try to "find" things in your environment; with the day ruler you try to "make" things happen by imposing your will.
To avoid suspense, the answer to the outer planet rulerships is that Uranus rules Aquarius, Neptune rules Pisces, and Pluto rules Aries in a Solar (day) way and that Uranus rules Capricorn, Neptune rules Sagittarius, and Pluto rules Scorpio in a Lunar (night) way. The way to envision this is that there are two streams: the conscious day stream and the subconscious night stream that spring from the Cancer-Leo cusp and go in their opposite directions.
If the Sun represents the personal identity, then the planets that are progressively further from the Sun in the solar system are progressively further from the individual identity they are progressively broader in space and time. Therefore, the day and night stream start with the personal and spread to the impersonal. You can think of the night stream as progressively deeper in the subconscious while the day stream is progressively broader in conscious expression.
here a good example with mercury and how it works with gem and virgo
Gemini, ruled by Lunar Mercury:
Mercury is the planet of speed, intellectuality, communication, talking, and thinking. Geminis respond to everything with speed, and with their mouths. Geminis are noted for their emotional changeability. The Gemini juggler must respond with speed to everything as it comes towards them their world is constantly and rapidly changing. Gemini tries to make everything in their environment as convenient and expeditious as possible. Geminis create a neighborhood or a brotherhood.
Curiosity is a rapid, intellectual response to the world Gemini is constantly trying to find out what is happening. The Gemini newspaperman records a constantly changing world on a daily, or, in our modern world, on an instantaneous basis. The goal of Gemini is information.
Virgo, ruled by Solar Mercury:
Virgo's fingers are in constant motion as they create their world in a Mercurial way. Virgos place this here and that there, they express order, tidiness, and neatness. The Mercuial thoughts come from inside and then are imposed upon the outer world Mercurial expression.
The watchmaker, the waiter or waitress, the nurse, the weaver, and the hard worker are images for Virgo. All of these occupations involve constant, rapid and precise activity which takes an inner order and expresses it in the outer world. Virgos "make" the world through Mercury.
Gemini, ruled by Lunar Mercury:
Mercury is the planet of speed, intellectuality, communication, talking, and thinking. Geminis respond to everything with speed, and with their mouths. Geminis are noted for their emotional changeability. The Gemini juggler must respond with speed to everything as it comes towards them their world is constantly and rapidly changing. Gemini tries to make everything in their environment as convenient and expeditious as possible. Geminis create a neighborhood or a brotherhood.
Curiosity is a rapid, intellectual response to the world Gemini is constantly trying to find out what is happening. The Gemini newspaperman records a constantly changing world on a daily, or, in our modern world, on an instantaneous basis. The goal of Gemini is information.
Virgo, ruled by Solar Mercury:
Virgo's fingers are in constant motion as they create their world in a Mercurial way. Virgos place this here and that there, they express order, tidiness, and neatness. The Mercuial thoughts come from inside and then are imposed upon the outer world Mercurial expression.
The watchmaker, the waiter or waitress, the nurse, the weaver, and the hard worker are images for Virgo. All of these occupations involve constant, rapid and precise activity which takes an inner order and expresses it in the outer world. Virgos "make" the world through Mercury.
Pisces, ruled by lunar Jupiter and Solar Neptune:
Jupiter is the jovial planet of humor, openness, expansion, growth, optimism, knowledge, wealth, fame, fortune, greed, and superiority. Pisces must have large, open surroundings. They are often emotionally open and surround themselves with knowledge. In humor, they are often the "straight" man since they react (or, over-react) in a humorous way to situations. Just think of Pisceans Jerry Lewis and Jackie Gleason. The ocean with itsboundless openness is a haven for Pisces. Pisces like to live the life of the rich and famous in a vicarious way they like to be surround themselves with the rich and famous. The goal of Pisces is growth.
Neptune, the Solar ruler, rules dreams, imagination, intuition, faith, imagery, spaciness, mysticism, religion, and drugs. As the Solar ruler, Neptune is more mystical since the religion is in the heart. Pisces are chameleons they can float between various ways of being and acting. With nebulous Neptune as the Solar ruler, Pisces can loose track of who they are since their identity is kaleidoscopic.
Sagittarius, ruled by Solar Jupiter and Lunar Neptune:
Sagittarius follows the Solar path of improvement, knowledge, openness, expansion, and growth. They must have broad, open vistas for action.But they have a Neptunian surface and Neptunian surroundings. The Sagittarian preacher is up on the pulpit, above the "faithful" (the Neptunian audience!). Sagittarians work through "influence". They try to smooth over antagonisms by fuzzing over the difficulties. They take things "however" and try to keep from being confined.
Higher Sagittarians live in a world of wonder and visions they search out the miraculous and try to make life better for everyone. Lower Sagittarians greedily (Jupiter) take from the gullible under a guise of nebulousness (Neptune). The environment is spiritual for a Sagittarius this was emphasized when Neptune entered Sagittarius in 1970 bringing the environmental movement onto the scene. The Sagittarian goal is spiritual, the quest for the holy.
Jupiter is the jovial planet of humor, openness, expansion, growth, optimism, knowledge, wealth, fame, fortune, greed, and superiority. Pisces must have large, open surroundings. They are often emotionally open and surround themselves with knowledge. In humor, they are often the "straight" man since they react (or, over-react) in a humorous way to situations. Just think of Pisceans Jerry Lewis and Jackie Gleason. The ocean with itsboundless openness is a haven for Pisces. Pisces like to live the life of the rich and famous in a vicarious way they like to be surround themselves with the rich and famous. The goal of Pisces is growth.
Neptune, the Solar ruler, rules dreams, imagination, intuition, faith, imagery, spaciness, mysticism, religion, and drugs. As the Solar ruler, Neptune is more mystical since the religion is in the heart. Pisces are chameleons they can float between various ways of being and acting. With nebulous Neptune as the Solar ruler, Pisces can loose track of who they are since their identity is kaleidoscopic.
Sagittarius, ruled by Solar Jupiter and Lunar Neptune:
Sagittarius follows the Solar path of improvement, knowledge, openness, expansion, and growth. They must have broad, open vistas for action.But they have a Neptunian surface and Neptunian surroundings. The Sagittarian preacher is up on the pulpit, above the "faithful" (the Neptunian audience!). Sagittarians work through "influence". They try to smooth over antagonisms by fuzzing over the difficulties. They take things "however" and try to keep from being confined.
Higher Sagittarians live in a world of wonder and visions they search out the miraculous and try to make life better for everyone. Lower Sagittarians greedily (Jupiter) take from the gullible under a guise of nebulousness (Neptune). The environment is spiritual for a Sagittarius this was emphasized when Neptune entered Sagittarius in 1970 bringing the environmental movement onto the scene. The Sagittarian goal is spiritual, the quest for the holy.
Your right a lot of astrologers differ on this its really half and half. But when you read about the ruler ship it makes since. Like when it talks about pisces and how they want to live the life of the rich lol. That is so my best friend he loves to be around things or have things that make him look rich. Look at price pisces for example lol/
My sister, who is a pisces dated a virgo at one point. She stated he was too cold and controlling. He stated she was too emotional to the point of absurdity and she also was too lofty or flighty.. Forgot which one he said, this was many years ago.
She is now with a capricorn and seems to be much happier.
I am in a relationship with a virgo. So is my mom, who happens to be a scorpio as well. Weird.
I do agree scorpios and virgo are better matched.
She is now with a capricorn and seems to be much happier.
I am in a relationship with a virgo. So is my mom, who happens to be a scorpio as well. Weird.
I do agree scorpios and virgo are better matched.
As for Virgo men being heartless and cold, yes. However, if your patient and have thick-skin, you can be the lucky one privy to the deep emotions, he holds for the one he loves most. Its true, its all a facade. Virgo men are really sensitive.
Posted by virg_goki
i do not get the cap guy X fish gal combo... if the cap is usually cold and controlling, how does the fish girl put up with it? I still think billy goats goes well with bullettes
Neither do I, but if it it keeps them away from us Virgos, all the better
Taurus and Pisces make a better fit.
yes pisces need to be taken in small doses in a certain way by virgo. they are our complementary sign and have the lowest probability of getting along of all the earth-water combinations. if you explore pisces too much - you may get disappointed - but there are other contributors
Posted by Cajunspirit
"can never get any worthwhile conversation out of them."
They are always secretive, they never give any details or elaborate. They are vague and as I mentioned confusing. Communication is one of our main traits, Virgos love to understand and analyse everything. With them, there is nothing to analyse and understanding is difficult thanks to their emotional ways.
"I am the coldest most heartless person I know, and these emotional creatures ARE NOT FOR ME, KEEP THEM AWAY."
Virgos contain themselves, we "hid" emotions. I straight up don't care about things and people mostly. They are opposite...
When they choose to express themselves in detail without taking things the wrong way, we can actually have a decent time. But these instances are far and few between.
Pisces women downright feel they know best and will not hesitate to tell me how pWRONG I am and what I NEED to do, which like I said before pisses me off like NOTHING else.
I already know what I like and more importantly who I am and what I can tolerate.
I'm just looking to see if other Virguys have this problem, or if it's just me.
Could it be that Virgo is just evil people could it be Virgo is just so inconsiderate of Pisces female? yes we are the complete opposite so where we care you don't .. Im so happy u love ur trifiling ass Scorpio because theirs is a sign that can't be trusted and they will burn if u go too far which is good for u callous mofos u Virgo people are not nice people and u r super duper fakers plus I've learned Virgos are takers and Pisces are givers so when we have nothing left for u to take u hate us I really do think we can get along if you virgos stop being so selfish all the damn time u think we are weak because we are easily hurt but that hurt really makes us stronger we are genuinely good people and we learn to stay away from evil Virgo o n FYI Pisces women don't typically like to dominate our men because when that happens we lose respect
Lol I can say the above has nothing to do with my personality, but can't say the same for my bf (virgo) 
Anyways, love him for who he is and have accepted his bitchy nature so far :p As long there is respect and willingness for understanding things can work 
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Always so secretive, can never get any worthwhile conversation out of them.
They always have this "know what is best" attitude and when they talk to me in an authoritative way, it burns me to high hell.
No one tells me what to do, unless they are paying me to do so.
Most of the time they are confusing and take everything the wrong way. Likewise, I can't understand how they feel and what they say is sometimes quite confusing.
I am the coldest most heartless person I know, and these emotional creatures ARE NOT FOR ME, KEEP THEM AWAY.
Oft, I read that we have potential as a couple, nothing could be more far from the truth. We always quarrel, never see eye to eye and I WILL NEVER TOLERATE being told what to do in such a " I know better than you " manner.
Pisces women often have this other side to them, where the sarcasm comes swift and sharp. I dislike criticism and when they mouth off, It stings.
Pisces guys on the other hand are awesome. I get along very well and find sympathising easy. They know their place and don't order me around like a dog.
I'm simply looking to see, how other Virgos get along with our COMPLETE AND TOTAL opposites.
How can you tolerate them (Virgo male to Pisces female) ?